This was the DC he left. https://t.co/GsCZfwgQ02 pic.twitter.com/SB5fVoEwkO
— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 3, 2023
Jim Newell, at Slate — “What It Was Like Inside the Courthouse at Trump’s Most Consequential Arraignment Yet”:
The E. Barrett Prettyman Federal Courthouse, a few blocks down Constitution Avenue from the United States Capitol, has seen its host of major trials before. But neither it nor any courthouse has or is likely to see a federal case on the magnitude of United States v. Trump, for which former President Donald Trump was arraigned Thursday afternoon.
By early Thursday morning, the typically accessible building was blocked off by police—many, many police—bike racks, and yellow tape, with dump trucks positioned as an additional barrier along the east-facing 3rd Street entrance. The white-tented, farmers market vibe of broadcast networks’ standup spots was arrayed along the front, south-facing facade of the building, alongside dozens of vans with equipment to unload.
The media entrance, on the west side of the building, had a line out the door that had started the night before—some of the major news outlets paid line-standers to hold spots for them, with reporters coming to relieve them of their duties in the wee morning hours. By 7:30, when I got in line, GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy was already leaving, having shot his video defending Trump—his theoretical primary opponent—from charges of profound crimes against the republic.
Once inside the courthouse, though, it might as well have been any other day. There was Judge Tanya Chutkan, who will eventually preside over the Trump case, grabbing a coffee from the cafeteria. She wouldn’t have to deal with the circus today, at least; the arraignment was a magistrate judge’s problem. Chief Judge James Boasberg of the district court went down the line of reporters who were waiting to check in, shaking hands, schmoozing, cracking jokes. Was something big going down in the courthouse Thursday? You’d never know.
The arraignment was a strange thing to behold: routine procedure, applied to a monumental moment in history…
With only about 10 to 20 seats available for media and the public inside the actual courtroom, most members of the media were held in a large conference room. Four screens, each showing three camera angles of the courtroom, were projected, and staff dimmed the lights in the media room more than an hour before the proceedings began. The mood was set: We were going to be viewing either a federal arraignment or a drone strike.
The defense and prosecution sat at two oblong tables next to each other, with screens and microphones at the end of each. The special prosecutor charging the case, Jack Smith, entered the courtroom at 3:45 p.m. and took a seat on the first row of benches behind the prosecution’s table, on the right. (The gallery, beyond a handful of public members and the press, also attracted a few curious D.C. federal judges in the building who came for the spectacle.)
When Trump entered the courtroom about five minutes later, he sat in the middle seat of the defense table between two of his attorneys, John Lauro and Todd Blanche. From there, he had a direct, unobstructed view of Smith, sitting about 20 feet away. The former president sat with his hands folded, mostly whispering back and forth with his attorneys. Smith mostly whispered with his own associates. It was as if these two men, in the process of making each other’s lives substantially more complicated, were going out of their way to not acknowledge the other’s presence…
When Judge Upadhyaya arrived, the lawyers on both sides introduced themselves, and the defense attorneys identified their client as “President Trump.”
“Good afternoon, Mr. Trump,” Upadhyaya said. He would be “Mr.” for the remainder of the hearing, including when she read him his Miranda rights.
She asked him, among other things, to state his full name.
“Donald J. Trump. John.”
And his age?
“Seven-seven,” he said, oddly…
The government didn’t request to detain Trump, but the conditions for his release include that Trump not violate federal, state, or local law. He was reminded that it’s a crime to threaten a juror, bribe a witness, or retaliate against anyone cooperating with the government. According to one pool reporter in the room, Trump appeared most irritated in this moment, shaking his head when she mentioned arrest as a consequence of violating these terms…
The judge allowed for him to file a written motion making his case to Chutkan, and the hearing was over. After half an hour of sitting and behaving like a normal, well-adjusted person who might not have a proclivity for going out of his way to get into legal trouble, Trump was back on the tarmac at Reagan National Airport, complaining about political persecution.
When I left the courtroom, the public presence outside the building had grown substantially. It was largely the same festival of stupid content creation that my colleague Alexander Sammon witnessed outside the Miami courthouse during Trump’s previous federal arraignment…
There were dozens, well more like A dozen, Trump supporters outside his arraignment. Weren't we promised riots if Trump was arrested? https://t.co/UG155cwLs1
— noname202 (@noname2020202) August 4, 2023
Tiger Beat on the Potomac, frankly disappointed: Subdued crowd gathers outside Washington courthouse where Trump was arraigned :
… While the crowd slowly grew throughout the day, mostly thanks to curious onlookers passing through, as of about 5 p.m. only around a dozen supporters of the former president were outside the courthouse, brandishing Trump 2024 flags, calling for the release of Jan. 6 “political prisoners” and wearing red hats. On the street, a few cars passed by carrying the same banners of support. The large majority of onlookers seemingly had no idea that Trump had arrived shortly after 3 or had left after he was arraigned, and they did not express any support or opposition.
There were about a dozen celebratory counterprotesters as well, playing music and holding signs that read “Lock Him Up,” while others mocked the former president while dressed in their best Trump garb. They also had a mini rock concert later in the afternoon.
One of Trump’s supporters told POLITICO he was not surprised about the low turnout, citing what he perceived as persecution of Trump’s base.
“They have scared Americans — namely Trump supporters — shitless,” said Dion Cini, 54, of New York City, who held a Trump 2024 flag in his hands and said he has traveled the country to support the former president for years. “All the Republicans are just scared right now, and rightly so.”…
Around the Washington courthouse, counterprotesters who were celebrating the indictment played music on speakers and occasionally shouted chants on a bull horn. One popular attraction for passersby and the media was a person dressed up in an inflatable baby Trump costume, mimicking the voice of the former president.
“We’re just here to celebrate our government attempting to prove that democracy is still possible and that we have any intention of holding people accountable,” said Karen Irwin, a 47-year-old from Manhattan who was preparing to tie balloons to a poster she made with the words “Trump Indictment Celebration Tour.”…
The subdued scene was fitting for a quiet August day in the capital, a time when Congress — and, along with it, some of Trump’s biggest banner carriers — is out on recess.
President Joe Biden was also out of town, taking a vacation back home in Delaware. While on a bike ride Thursday morning, Biden smiled but did not respond to a reporter who asked about the impending court proceedings in Washington, according to a pool report.
Yutsano
Mmm..I can taste the Schadenfreude….
EDIT: FRIST!
Sister Golden Bear
Frist! Not FristMy Freude is absolutely Scheadening!
Ken
Or possibly two supporters and ten FBI moles. I am always tickled when I read another article about deplorables getting all paranoid about their fellow travelers because they suspect some are agents or informers.
Yutsano
@Sister Golden Bear: I have no idea how I beat you there lol.
Baud
I’m more surprised there weren’t more people there cheering.
MisterDancer
As I think Adam has reminded on a number of occasions, and we all saw on Jan 6th, terrorism is a major tool in these asshats’ arsenal. To sum up one axis of that attack: so long as we decent folx fear reprisals for speaking and acting against these evils — for that is what this is, at its core — they win.
But there’s more to it, these days. I’m shamed, personally, I didn’t see the Tea Party in that light. But it’s a sin, as well, that so much of the media salivates at the thought of violence, and the ratings it brings. It risks becoming the modern-day bread and circuses, these “political” fights that are really about the most basic and base of moralities and civilities of civilized life.
Betty Cracker
“Donald Jessica Trump.” — Randy Rainbow
Roger Moore
@Ken:
They’re probably right, which makes me even happier. I want law enforcement to pay at least as much attention to crazy right wingers as to non-violent left wingers.
Sister Golden Bear
Just another day of Republicans inciting stochastic terrorism:
Matt Walsh: The Founding Fathers Would Kill Everyone In DC
OlFroth
“They have scared Americans — namely Trump supporters — shitless,” said Dion Cini, 54, of New York City, who held a Trump 2024 flag in his hands and said he has traveled the country to support the former president for years. “All the Republicans are just scared right now, and rightly so.”… And yet, no one bothered Mr. Cini.
MisterDancer
Aside from it being DC, not a Trump-friendly area?
He’s not winning. And the cult of Trump — like most authoritarians — requires the illusion of winning, if nothing else. It’s why, time and again, the marginalized are scapegoated. They are easy pickings for wins, ones that seemingly never run out, ones where any defense is seen as an attack. (See also: DeSantis, Abbot, etc.)
As long as he projected the aura of a winner, he was up, no matter the realities on the ground. Now he’s not projecting that aura in the same way, plus a lot of his most rabid followers are in or looking at jail time.
It’s fucking far from perfect for the many under direct attack and even genocide. But I think something is changing in all this. Something hard to see, under all the viciousness and rhetorical and real harm.
This would-be Emperor has not lost his clothes, by any means. But maybe — just maybe — he’s lost a shoe, or his undershirt. And his hangers-on are noticing.
Sandia Blanca
@Betty Cracker: Yes! I prefer Randy’s version to the fake Jack Smith moniker of “Donald Jezebel Trump,” although both are quite good.
Baud
@MisterDancer:
No, I meant cheering the fact that he’s being tried. The way people did when he was defeated in 2020.
Roger Moore
@MisterDancer:
I think the idea was there would be lots of Trump haters there cheering that he was indicted. In practice Trump haters mostly have better things to do than hang around for the indictment. The verdict, OTOH…
MisterDancer
And if you push people like Walsh? It’s always rhetorical. Never “really what they meant,” the real violence. Just a joke, nothing to see here, you snowflakes.
It’s never real, until they feel safe for it to be real. Like it was on Jan 6th.
MisterDancer
@Baud: ah. Nevermind my rant, then. :|
Betty Cracker
I find that “Donald Jessica Trump” bit by Randy Rainbow so hilarious that I’m going to assign random women’s middle names to every POTUS whose middle initial I can recall from the time of my mother’s birth to the present. Here goes:
Heh.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker: Unsurprisingly, I am not a huge fan of that “joke.”
smith
surfk9
One of the members of our Democratic Club was in DC yesterday for the indictment. The pictures she sent made the anti-TFG demonstration look more robust than the one described in the article
NotMax
One of the ostensible supporters there, horn-clad, was protesting Jews and circumcision (and whatever else would fit on a placard), also too.
WaterGirl
@Sister Golden Bear: Wow.
WaterGirl
@MisterDancer: I prefer to think of it as Trump is wearing his underwear outside of his clothing, like Captain Underpants.
Frank Wilhoit
I grew up in the suburbs (Bethesda) of what is now the Imperial Capital, left in 1981, last went back to visit in 1991, don’t think I’d recognize the place at all today.
Dan B
@Sister Golden Bear: There are many RWNJ’s who are itching for war because they assume they won’t get caught in it. And there is a huge cohort of people who just want to lead a “normal life” and not be bothered with politics and “issues” – you know: human rights, social justice, climate crisis, immigrants, etc.
Jay
@Ken: he’s not giving away enough PlayStations,…….//
trollhattan
Don’t wish to steal a Silverman lede but fresh Kaboomski at Crimea bridge?
nitter.net/ukraine_map/status/1687579400433262592#m
trollhattan
@Dan B:
A little like when covid was just killing the “right sort of people.” It was a real thing, for awhile [dun-dun-dun].
Jackie
@Roger Moore: “The verdict, OTOH…”
There will be fireworks and dancing in the streets all across America!
Dan B
@trollhattan: Yep. Checkers thinking when it’s actually four dimensional Chess.
Gvg
I have come to see the rights interpretation of the 2nd amendment as authorizing murder. It’s a threat to any government official or employee the way they use it, to be misused by anyone who disagrees with a result or rule. It has to go.
I understand that we rebelled and essentially fought a successful civil war to separate from England, undoubtedly breaking their laws and doing what they called murder. But it was after many had reached consensus to break, not after single often very bad people decided to take what they wanted violently. The wording of the second is just all wrong for a moral purpose.
it will take decades at a minimum to get a repeal through by convincing enough voters.
trollhattan
Rich asshole I never heard of has decided to halt shoveling money at Puddin’ Boots. For now.
Answer to the unasked question: Budget Suites of America, whatever those hellmouths may be.
NotMax
@Jackie
“Global Champagne Shortage Is Bad News For Biden”
– The NYT
//
Roger Moore
@NotMax:
There are always some complete crazies who will show up for any protest to complain about whatever delusion they’re worried about this week. We shouldn’t hold the organizers accountable unless there’s good evidence they actually welcome the crazies rather than just tolerating them as one of those things you have to put up with.
Tenar Arha
@Ken: I’m always amazed that Republicans or the MAGA right now thinks they’re all being “targeted.” And being weirded out by how upside down it feels because it’s almost always been the left or even moderate left who have reason to be paranoid.
Ex. Watching Oppenheimer reminded me that being “prematurely anti-fascist” (and Jewish) was enough to get you called a fellow traveler and mentioned in an FBI file in the 1930’s before WWII.
A generation later, being anti-segregation got you targeted for surveillance and harassment, even if all you did was march and deliberately get arrested etc etc.
And, it becomes super weird to listen to a podcast like the film series the You Must Remember This, that I have been working my way thru for the past few months. I’ve skipped around, but right now, I’m listening to the series comparing & contrasting Jane Fonda & Jean Seberg’s careers & political activism. I’m often just holy wtf, about everything from the sexism, to the FBI.
Anyway, listening to TFG’s followers complain about being targeted by the FBI or the DOJ, I feel like they never heard of or learned anything at all about our history. And it’s just the weirdest feeling of dissonance that gets carried on while I watch or listen to anything with even a bit historical relevance.
Baud
@trollhattan:
Shooting government workers rather than slitting their thrusts.
Sounds like he’s backing down.
Juju
@Betty Cracker: I said this in an earlier thread, but long past the point anyone would check, I’m fine with the John part if you think of john as a toilet. I’m not crazy about using a woman’s name as an insult. Jessica is probably a lovely person and doesn’t deserve the insult to her name.
NotMax
@trollhattan
“You can say gay every other Wednesday.”
//
Baud
@Juju:
Jessica Fletcher was an unrelenting serial killer who framed hundreds of innocent people.
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: Nor am I.
Betty Cracker
@trollhattan: Does that asshole donor really think a pol whose entire brand is right-wing extremism can suddenly pivot and “get moderates”? DeSantis ain’t got nothing but extremism, Bigelow. Sorry about your $20M!
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NotMax
@Roger Moore
The fact they’re counted as swelling the numbers of one side or the other is not irrelevant, however.
Juju
@WaterGirl: His Depends still on the inside?
Jackie
@NotMax: Biden doesn’t drink champagne or anything alcoholic ///
I, myself, am going to grab a case of champagne to have ready for every guilty verdict charged in all FOUR trials. 🥂🥂🥂🥂😊
Bill Arnold
Been stewing for minutes over this:
To a UK person, 7/7 means the London suicide bomber attacks on the transit system.
But one could wonder if DJT really wanted to say Eight Eight. (DJT often verbally refers to DJT as “we”, so it could make sense to such a … package.)
Any other thoughts?
Roger Moore
@Dan B:
I understand this attitude, even though I strongly disagree with it. People who see things that way are basically disengaged and uninterested in any issue that isn’t obviously relevant to their day-to-day life. More than anything, it’s a form of privilege.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: We watch an episode of “Rosemary and Thyme” every once in a while, and it’s amazing how these garden designers find a body in every garden they work on. It’s one of the more ridiculous premises. But Felicity Kendal and Pam Ferris make it work somehow.
smith
Today Josh Marshall had a couple of items about how J6 reality is starting to pierce the armor of some Republicans. One was about how Mike Pence, now that it’s revealed he will be a star prosecution witness in the J6 trial, has figured out that he can no longer straddle the fence on the wrongs and rights of the coup, and has at long last made a full-throated condemnation of it. The other is about how DeSantis, now he’s going down in flames, may be inching toward a Hail Mary in the form of denying the Big Lie.
This, I think, is a similar phenomenon to TFG’s avid supporters now understanding that couping is not just some political cosplay or a clever PR ploy. It’s a crime that puts you in real jeopardy. I think they fully believed Karl Rove when he said, “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality,” and reality has now reared up and bitten them on the ass.
NotMax
@Baud
And then there’s, for example, Thomas Jane.
I haz a confoozle….
;)
Geminid
@Bill Arnold: My brand new Occam’s Eightball says, “You are overthinking this.”
Juju
@trollhattan: They are a place that saves me the trouble of boycotting them.
Betty Cracker
@Juju: Disparaging the incontinent like that isn’t allowed here at Shakesville. Oh wait…
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
Heh. That’s hysterical. I could never write plots because there’s no way I could pitch something like that with a straight face.
smith
@zhena gogolia: That’s a feature of pretty much any mystery series that features an amateur sleuth, even Miss Marple. It’s pretty difficult to elide the fact that everywhere they go, murdered corpses turn up. Most solve the problem by simply ignoring it.
NotMax
@trollhattan
Brink’s unicycles backing up to the loading dock.
//
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Tenar Arha:
Probably because they never did. It’s disgusting how ignorant they are of basic American history and act like they’re the most Patriotic Americans TM evar!
Roger Moore
@Tenar Arha:
I disagree. I think plenty of them know and approve of the past use of the FBI (and other government agencies) to harass, intimidate, and occasionally kill people who opposed the government. But those people were almost exclusively from the political left. The right has been largely immune to that kind of treatment because they have dominated the security state regardless of who was elected. The shock and surprise comes from that no longer being 100% true. How dare the police investigate their friends on the right!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@zhena gogolia:
And how Cabot Cove is the Murder Capitol of America
Shalimar
@Baud: I am surprised there weren’t a lot more Republicans protesting. The Brooks Brothers Riot had more congressional aides attending, and they had to fly to Miami. Surely D.C., home of thousands of young Republican professionals who supposedly support Trump, could manage a couple hundred?
Omnes Omnibus
@Shalimar: They’ve seen the indictments and convictions coming out of the last time they tried that shit.
Baud
@Shalimar:
Agreed. Maybe they didn’t want to be photographed at a Trump rally. They’re looking to the future.
bbleh
@OlFroth: FAFO Mr Cini. At least you’re not doing a stretch for rioting.
Steeplejack
Give me a break, Politico! Their story quotes “Trump supporter” Dion Cini, who 10 seconds on the Google shows is the grifter behind TrumpSwag.com. Would’ve been nice if they had mentioned that.
Subsole
@Sister Golden Bear:
Well golly gee goddamn, Matt. You look like someone. Go do something about it.
But that ain’t your job, is it, Matt? No, that’s a job for some poor schmuck who burned out his frontal lobes listening to you to go do.
This is their entire modus operandi all the way back to at least Iraq.
Baud
@Steeplejack:
You get your quotes where you can.
Kelly
@trollhattan: Former NJ Gov Christie is in Ukraine. He knows how to shut down bridges 😊
Baud
@Kelly:
Haha.
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
Darling of the New York Times, Tucker Carlson, the University of Texas, and Bari Weis’ dumbassed shop has a racial separation advocacy problem.
Meet the real Richard Hanania….
lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/08/intellectual-dark-web-media-star-wrote-white-supremacist-things-und…
bbleh
@Gvg: I can’t stand that nonsense. The point of the 2nd Amendment was to protect state militias, not to guarantee any gomer permission to own /carry weapons and engage in insurrection. “Bear arms” in the 18th century meant “serve in an organized armed force” — thus the prefatory clause — not “carry or own a weapon.”
Dan B
@Roger Moore: A privilege I don’t have. I’m far down the list from black, brown, immigrant and trans people but I’m in the next cohort. I’m regularly reminded of the constant background stress.
Shalimar
@zhena gogolia: My favorite is the British series Midsomer Murders. Rural part of England, 23 seasons, 132 episides, 415 murders, 613 total deaths. And more than half the episodes end with the murderer captured while attempting another murder. For the first dozen seasons, it was pretty much a running gag that someone was going to get killed at pretty much every local event the detective’s wife volunteered for. That was their lazy way of creating subplots for her.
Jackie
“JACKSON, Miss. — Mississippi is violating the U.S. Constitution’s ban on cruel and unusual punishment by permanently stripping voting rights from people convicted of some felonies, a federal appeals court panel ruled in a split decision Friday.”
”Two judges on the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel ordered the Mississippi secretary of state to stop enforcing a provision in the state constitution that disenfranchises people convicted of specific crimes, including murder, forgery and bigamy.”
“If the ruling stands, thousands of people could regain voting rights, possibly in time for the Nov. 7 general election for governor and other statewide offices.”
“Mississippi Republican Attorney General Lynn Fitch expects to ask the full appeals court to reconsider the panel’s 2-1 ruling, her spokesperson, Debbee Hancock, said Friday.”
“The 5th Circuit is one of the most conservative appeals courts in the U.S., and in 2022 it declined to overturn Mississippi’s felony disenfranchisement provisions — a ruling that came in a separate lawsuit. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court said it would not consider that case, allowing the 2022 appeals court ruling to stand.”
npr.org/2023/08/04/1192295228/mississippi-felon-voting-law-blocked
Steve in the ATL
@Baud: okay now I can’t resist one more song apropos of this!
Hob
@zhena gogolia: The Rian Johnson/Natasha Lyonne crime series Poker Face, which I love, has a similar issue in that Lyonne’s character happens upon a murder in literally every town she stops at. It still works for me because 1. the premise of the show has a quasi-supernatural element anyway and 2. as the series goes on, we see that in a fair number of these cases she was an indirect cause of the person getting murdered in the first place, through some well-meaning but impulsive action that happened to set off the murderer.
Spanky
Good. Maybe they’ll shut the fuck up.
cckids
@Betty Cracker: Is that inspired by “Adolph Elizabeth Hitler”?
Steeplejack
@Baud:
Goddamn, it pisses me off 50 years later that as a newspaper reporter in the 1970s I would have loved to have the vast resources of the Internet to fact-check stuff. I hate to go all “kids these days,” but a lot of reporters are lazy and sloppy.
Subsole
@Roger Moore:
We are, comparatively, the party of normal.
Normal people usually don’t go for purges and firing squads and revolutionary tribunals.
Most normal people, when they have passed through a trauma, just want to put their lives back together.
I don’t want to go cheer at this. I want this fucker (and his straphangers and the toxic fucking miasma of a party he latched on to) to go away and stay gone away so I don’t have to think about him anymore.
I want to grind these fucking sawed-off discount-rack Mussolinis into the dirt so I can go back home to the Land of the Free after my shift and live my life watching the tube and drinking some beer and scarfing Dove bars.
Probably why the media treating it as entertainment is so grating…
Abnormal Hiker
@Omnes Omnibus: I don’t even get what the joke is. Which also puzzles me because generally I find BC very funny.
Anoniminous
Quite a lot of Nittering about an attack on the Kerch bridge, possibly a combination of air and sea drones?
Villago Delenda Est
@Steeplejack: Politico is utter garbage, as is The Hill, Tiger Beat on the Potomac, and Axios.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Steeplejack:
It makes you wonder what J-Schools have been teaching for the past few decades
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
You get your quotes where you can.
Villago Delenda Est
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Middle schoolers would ask more cogent and interesting questions than the vile stenographers of the White House Press Corpse.
Roger Moore
@Shalimar:
This is something I think Dragnet got just about right. They made it explicit the protagonist was a composite character who was a stand-in for whatever LAPD cop it was who actually experienced whatever it was that happened on the show that week. It might be a little more reasonable if you saw the amateur detective in whatever series as a similar composite: whatever local busybody anywhere in the UK who got involved in solving crime. That still seems like a lot of murder and mayhem for quiet rural backwaters, but it’s at least a bit more reasonable than the same amateur detective stumbling onto that many murders.
Dan B
@Tenar Arha: I met Jane Fonda at the ferry dock for MacNeil Island federal penitentiary. She was wonderful. Donald Sutherland not so much. That was in my activist days when we were under constant surveillance by the FBI. I don’t believe I’m allowed on any military base .
Speaking of which, the Blue Devils / Angels are heading back to Boeing field. They fly four blocks east of our house on their way back. Oy!
Suzanne
@OlFroth:
Yeah this is bullshit.
There are millions of guns in the hands of the country’s worst people and they are very eager to have an excuse to murder me. This is officially a low-trust society. I no longer discuss anything of importance with anyone I don’t know well. I don’t stop to help people on the sidewalk. I am as low-profile as possible in my public life. Because the lunatics came dangerously close to running the asylum.
Subsole
@Gvg:
I see it like this:
The right is handing out guns to anyone.
The Second was ostensibly established to provide for a final line of defense against Tyranny.
That job is either important enough to do CORRECTLY, or it is not.
If it is important enough to do correctly, then we need some basic admissions standards and operational guidelines.
If the job is so unimportant that you can trust every whackaloon, fuckup and thug to do it, then it is not important enough to require especial protection under the Constitution.
Manyakitty
@Betty Cracker: “Richard Martha Nixon” 😂😂😂😂😂
trollhattan
@Kelly: {rimshot!} Hey-ooo.
Omnes Omnibus
@Roger Moore: Sherlock Holmes on rural backwaters.
Tenar Arha
@Roger Moore: I have some quibbles, because I think there’s a group of people who have so brain poisoned themselves they really don’t think at all anymore. But overall you’re right. There’s plenty who are aware enough and know the truth, and feel strongly what’s the quote? “When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression.”
trollhattan
@Dan B: Seafair, yee-haw!
Grew up scant blocks from Lake Washington and the hydro course, and qualifying week attracted every kid allowed out of the house.
They ran WWII V12 aircraft engines then, Rolls Royce or Allison, all supercharged, straight pipe exhaust, and a heat of five or six of the boats would shake the house window glass. Think most of the grownups hated it but for kids, could not get enough.
I cannot name another motorsport that killed as high a percentage of the talent pool. Woodchipper jousting?
Manyakitty
@Kelly: ope.
trollhattan
@Steeplejack:
I think few reporters are trained journalists now. They’ve basically crowdsourced “news” and “news” is measured in clicks or eyeballs.
Subsole
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Deeper than that.
These are people who have been so starved for challenge, so indulged and cossetted by The American Way of Doing Things, that they have no yardstick for their own fortitude.
They secretly thirst for a gloss of oppression that they can nobly rise up against. Not REAL oppression, mind. Oh nonononononono. Fuck no. But some great and terrible Injustice(TM) that they can feel without having to experience.
It’s not exclusive to the Cons, but it seems to have metastasized throughout their entire culture.
Dan B
OT: Trump campaign just released an ad targeting the AG’s and Special Prosecutor one day after he said he would not intimidate or threaten anyone. Time for Garland to invite Trump’s lawyers to a meeting.
NotMax
@Shalimar
A favorite is the French series Captain Marleau. Aside from the lead being a real hoot and a half, she is not chained to the desk of any particular precinct or region. As a captain in the national police, she travels to wherever next she is temporarily dispatched as a homicide investigator.
Roger Moore
@Subsole:
The counter position is that being able to oppose tyranny is so important, the government must be forced to butt out. If you allow the government itself to determine who is and isn’t allowed to oppose it, of course it will limit that right so much as to make it meaningless. Any restriction whatsoever is a slippery slope toward universal disarmament and complete tyranny.
Of course this is utter BS. My understanding is that the main worry behind the 2nd Amendment wasn’t government tyranny in general but a standing army specifically. The supporters of the 2nd Amendment were deeply suspicious of a standing army, which they thought could be used by the government to oppress the citizens, so they wanted national defense to be mostly in the hands of state militias, which could afford to be much larger and would be capable of keeping the small standing army in check. The 2nd Amendment exists to protect the right of the states to have their own militias, not to protect the individual right to gun ownership.
HumboldtBlue
A lot of keystrokes are gonna spent on reporting on the documents case in Florida under the jurisdiction of Aileen Cannon.
BeautifulPlumage
Ukraine also took out an oil tanker when it just now attacked the Kerch bridge as it was taking RU oil to Syria!
ETA ignore that horrid sentence structure, I was excited
Subsole
@Baud:
…and, one would hope, label them clearly and appropriately.
NotMax
FYI. Wretched excess has a new name.
Dan B
@trollhattan: Yep. I knew one of the kids of a hydro driver who was killed. Dorey Munson. My partner lived in a house two blocks from the lake but farther north – Denny Blaine. Quieter except for the Blue Dragons / Angels.
HumboldtBlue
@Kelly:
Hahahahaha!
Subsole
@Roger Moore:
All valid and correct. I am merely trying to offer a compromise position.
Dan B
@BeautifulPlumage: Nice!
You close to the Blue Bombers / Angels?
Roger Moore
@Dan B:
It’s time for the prosecution to bring it to the attention of the judge. She’s the one he made the promises to, she’s the one who should handle his inability to keep to his promises.
Ruckus
@Bill Arnold:
Might it actually be because SFB is quite possibly an ignorant fuck who has little more knowledge than a dollar is worth more than a quarter, that 100 dollars is worth more than one, that a thousand dollars is worth more than 100 dollars and anything over a million is a shit ton?
Ken
@Bill Arnold: I think you’re reading too much into one reporter’s impression. Even if there was something odd about the way he said his age, it might have been a momentary shock from, say, realizing that he was actually in a courtroom. Or perhaps from making two true statements in a row.
Tenar Arha
@Dan B: That’s cool. I was definitely too young at the time to have been paying attention to any actors (except maybe the muppets on Sesame Street or the kids on Zoom speaking ubbi dubbi) when she started her activism against the war.
I vaguely seem to remember how in 1979/1980, during either her promotion of The China Syndrome or 9 to 5, some people were more interested in criticizing her about what was in my mind ancient history, than in the movies.
The Lodger
@Juju: “Donald J. Trump, John.”
Oddly, he was never identified that way during the Stormy Daniels trial.
smith
@BeautifulPlumage: And that appears to be the second Russian ship Ukraine has hit in two days. Looks like they may have perfected those naval drones.
BeautifulPlumage
@Dan B: I’m pretty far east but can definitely hear them. I could see some of their higher maneuvers. I used to live at 25th & Mercer and could almost touch them when one zipped through the valley.
HumboldtBlue
@The Lodger:
Ba-dum-tssh!
BeautifulPlumage
@smith: yes, nice way to draw their defenses south before hitting the bridge. I doubt whack-a-mole is a game in RU but their military seems to be playing a version.
kalakal
@trollhattan:
Hah! Wonder if any of those cancelled conventions in Florida are hitting the bastard in the wallet. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Dan B
@BeautifulPlumage: We’re 8n the flight path from Boeing /M.L.King County Field to Renton – south end of the lake. The worst though is when they start over the Duwamish Valley and head east over the hill. The first we hear anything is full volume. Sounds like a bomb detonating overhead.
My little grey kitty is back here in the living room, not as freaked as yesterday when he slouched around the house prowling for monsters under the furniture. Poor guy.
zhena gogolia
@Shalimar: I love it too
Sister Golden Bear
@Dan B:
“Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.” — Lord Farquaad
They also assume they’ll wipe out the libs, and be hailed as heroes of the revolution
Kathleen
@Subsole: + infinity and bunches o hearts!
Brachiator
@Shalimar:
I’ve watched the series and certainly understand its appeal. But there were some episodes where the cascading murders became overkill. I couldn’t believe that the killer really had enough time or opportunity to keep on killing.
Also, I would think that with so many murders, people would start moving out big time.
laura
@Tenar Arha: You Must Remember This What a treasure trove of history, love the thematic groupings; similar to the Criterion Channel; and Carina Longworth is an engaging historian of modern American Cinema. Extreme enunciation warning. Polly Platt, The Invisible Woman was so good (insert all the superlatives).
BeautifulPlumage
@Dan B: oh poor kitty (& Dan B & Mike), that’s obnoxious. I don’t miss them or the boats up close.
Bill Arnold
@Ruckus:
That works.
I am also reminded of this demonstration of D.J. Trump’s relationship with numbers, and his reality distortion field. He was so confident in his answer!
Howard Stern interviewing D.J. Trump, Ivanka and Don Jr, in 2006.
Trump Does Math! (“What is 17 times 6?”)
Brachiator
@kalakal:
According to the Wiki, Bigelow is a right wing nut job with an emphasis on “nut.”
I hope this is not a phoney edit job on the guy’s Wikipedia biography.
smith
@Brachiator: It always struck me as rather surreal how equably those Midsomer villagers took the fact that there was a killer in their midst. One of your neighbors is bumping off people right and left? Well, it’s a good night to go out and walk the dog, at midnight, alone.
Repatriated
@Ruckus:
@Ken: I bet he thought he was cleverly avoiding creating an easy sound-bite.
MagdaInBlack
@Ruckus: Ain’t no ” quite possibly” about it. I have no doubt he is an ignorant fuck.
Juju
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I’ve always wanted to visit Midsomer, but I’m afraid I’d end ass up in a shallow pond because someone had a decades old grudge against my family. So, I’m not going to visit that area.
Brachiator
@laura:
Agree that this is a wonderful podcast. And previous episodes have covered the entire history of cinema, from the Silent era to modern times.
smith
@Juju: You don’t need to worry — there is no county named Midsomer in the UK. The villages that serve as a backdrop for the show are real, though.
Brachiator
@smith:
I figure that they are busy planning a future murder.
schrodingers_cat
@Abnormal Hiker: Me too. I don’t get it.
schrodingers_cat
OT glimmer of good news from India. Rahul Gandhi’s expulsion from Loksabha (India’s House of Commons) has been stayed by the Supreme Court of India.
Gvg
@Roger Moore: actually, many unprivileged people who work and raise families don’t want to pay attention to politics too. A lot of people are tired, many think it’s “icky”, and more are just discouraged. It can be a kind of head in the sand or maybe just sanity defense and survival. I know it’s not really in their best interest, but I know people like this. I can remember when black Americans had a lower than average voter rate and it was discouragement even more than suppression. Some success and leaders changed that.
Gerrymandering is discouraging you know. So are unrealistic expectations.
Lyrebird
Some of the congressional aides on the R side were there on Jan 6th and were well aware that an armed insurrection ain’t tourism.
Brachiator
@schrodingers_cat:
I’m sorry that I don’t know anything about Indian politics. Is this person from the notable political family? How honest is he?
Has the Supreme Court had to deal with challenges to its authority?
I am happy that this appears to be hopeful news.
persistentillusion
@Brachiator: Visit Staged. Michael Sheen and David Tennant during lockdown. At one point Sheen says something like “Are you going to do another murder thing? People saying “Lovely town, glad we moved here. Oh god, there’s that scrawny fellow, people are going to start to die” paraphrasing. And Tennant smiles and says “there may be some deaths”.
Tenar Arha
@Brachiator:
@laura:
Loved the Polly Platt series of episodes; imagine if she & Streisand had directed. What a what if!
& the Silent era episodes, wow. Even went looking for the documentary series Hollywood by Kevin Brownlow on the silent era on the internet archive. FYI JIC you’re unfamiliar those were great too.
kalakal
If TFG & the MAGAs thinks he should be treated as though he’s a king we should indulge. Transport him to and from the court in a tumbril
Gvg
@bbleh: it did not state that clearly enough. In fact although I wish you were right, the muddled language seems to be more towards the evil current view than what you say. It seems more like 30/70% split intentions. If they meant a state militia, they could have said so explicitly. In fact I think the founders made a mistake. They thought things would work one way and in practice that’s not what happened. Sort of like how they thought political parties wouldn’t happen or having the runner up be vice President. I don’t think it’s doing anything useful. It is doing harm by warping and fascinating too many people into unhealthy behaviors. I don’t think we can establish what they really intended and I don’t even give a damn. They were wrong, reality is it’s not making us safer or preserve democracy at all.
kalakal
@Brachiator: The definitive survival guide for quaint English villages
How not to get murdered
Almost Retired
@schrodingers_cat: I would never presume to speak for Betty Cracker but I interpreted that to mean she was also unamused by the Jessica thing in Randy Rainbow’s videos and was mocking the cheapness of the joke.
schrodingers_cat
@Brachiator: Rahul Gandhi is the son of Rajiv Gandhi, grandson of Indira Gandhi and great grandson of Nehru. He was expelled from the Loksabha on flimsy grounds (he supposedly defamed the people with last name Modi) which has been reversed by the Supreme Court.
He doesn’t spout a constant stream of lies like Modi. He walked across the length of India (north to south, from Kerala to Kashmir last year)
He was in the US earlier this summer. Here he is speaking at Stanford.
Omnes Omnibus
@kalakal:
I’ve always known hanging out with a dog in the pub is a good idea.
Kay
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:
Good Lord. You wonder what his plan is here. I think he has to comment.
No one dumber than the anti woke ninnies who promoted him – they’re marks. Suckers.
Juju
@smith: I know. It was a joke.
Brachiator
@Tenar Arha:
I love how Longworth can use a famous person as the jumping off point to talk about other amazing personalities.
Here is the audio for an amazing episode about Ida Lupino, who may have had an affair with Howard Hughes when she was very young.
The episode about Hughes and Hepburn is also fascinating.
Kay
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:
Like a whos who of anti woke ninnies. The only names missing are Bari Weiss and Joe Rogan and of course Weiss should be included because she hired him.
The nations most prestigious news organizations and dumbest public intellectuals were in such a panic, such a full blown tizzy over the existential threat posed by Oberlin College sophomores they mistakenly hired an actual Nazi. Ooops!
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: I’d actually go to a pub if I could take my dog.
kalakal
@Juju:
Many will let you
Juju
@kalakal: Not where I live.
zhena gogolia
@kalakal: That’s great. Hot Fuzz did a lot with parodying this genre, particularly Midsomer.
Omnes Omnibus
@Juju:
It’s fairly common in British pubs. I actually had one of my disturbing interactions in a British pub because of that. I was going to school in London and I was in a pub. Surprise, surprise. A couple was there with their English Cocker who looked a lot like mine back home. Instant homesickness. I went over to visit the dog and met the owners. They seemed a nice enough couple. We chatted for a while and they asked me what I was planning on doing when I finished university. I said I was interested in joining the State Dep’t. They made approving noises and then the husband asked me to turn my head to see me in profile. Seemed odd, but okay. He then said, “Good, we need the right sort in that kind of job.” I excused myself soon after. Beautiful and nice dog. Shame about its people.
Gin & Tonic
My dear wife and I went to see “Oppenheimer” on a local IMAX screen today. The movie really does live up to the hype, IMO, and didn’t feel like it was three hours. As to the IMAX-ness – I know it was shot on 70mm film, in IMAX format, and that Christopher Nolan says that’s the ideal format to view it in. Not having viewed it in a conventional cinema, I can’t compare, but I’m not sure seeing it in that format is necessary. I mean, yes, it’s immersive: your visual field is filled, side to side and top to bottom, but looking at the pores on a 50-foot-high face isn’t really why you go to an IMAX theater. The point being that much of the movie is people talking to each other – in labs, classrooms, faculty lounges, hotels, etc., and it’s the dialogue that’s important. Sure, there are other shots that benefit from the wide view, but they’re not the majority.
As to the acting, I’ll be a heretic and say Cillian Murphy, while in almost every scene, didn’t show me much beyond “brooding scientist.” The real revelation, to me, was Robert Downey Jr. as Lewis Strauss, who was just brilliant, and (not to spoil anything) after a certain point just transfixed me.
If you haven’t seen it yet, go.
Villago Delenda Est
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: They’re all fuckin’ fascists. No quarter.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: I guess they didn’t care for Armenians.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
At which point you raised your glass and said “L’chaim!”
;)
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic:
Co-sign most of that. I saw it yesterday. Not in IMAX. Emily Blunt was also amazing. My only disagreement with you is on Murphy. I thought he was brilliant. Downing, Blunt, and Murphy should all be odds on favorites for Oscars. And Damon’s mustache.
Sure Lurkalot
@Dan B:
Unfortunately, I believe nothing will be done for fear that he and his cult will scream he is being silenced…election interference! He’s been doing this since first indicted and will not stop even if one of his goons takes him up on his incitement. I hate to say this, but 8 years of DJT’s shit has me convinced that neither “side” knows how (or has the courage) to deal with his threats.
Kay
@Villago Delenda Est:
It was inevitable, really. Once the ninnies identified “wokeness” as THE threat they climbed into bed with all sorts of unsavory characters. This had to happen eventually. They’ve been JUST THIS SIDE of consorting with Nazis for a while now. Now they’ve crossed over.
NotMax
@Sure Lurkalot
Shouldn’t he be effusively thanking them for bestowing such a “badge of honor?”
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: That was a truly awful mustache.
bbleh
@Dan B: @Sure Lurkalot: Trump long ago mastered the mob boss thing of going right up to the line but never provably going over it. Insinuation, indirection, suggestion, never quite actionable. And NEVER writing things down or doing things himself.
I would LOVE to see Judge Upadhyaya decide that this is a close enough call that she needs an immediate hearing at which Trump must appear personally to convince her that he hasn’t violated the conditions of his release.
How would the average defendant be treated?
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: So bad, that if Twitter were what it once was, it would already have its own account.
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: I envy your time in London and I hope to get a chance to visit someday, but the profile request eludes me. Perhaps I’m dense, but what were they trying to discern from your profile?
kalakal
@zhena gogolia: Hot Fuzz is great
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s really disturbing.
@Juju: It’s rarer in cities. I remember in Headingley, Leeds that at one point there was about only one pub that let in dogs. It was utter chaos, there were dozens of dogs, mostly under excercised, badly trained border collies, owned by idiot crusties who thought that a piece of string was a lead. I stopped going there. Most places I lived/visited had pubs that were ok with taking a dog as long as it was well behaved but if the dog played up you were out
bbleh
@Juju: ima guess that his features were appropriately Aryan.
NotMax
@bbleh
Haven’t checked, but guessing it was released by a PAC, not by the campaign. Also surmising without any “I approve this message” afterword.
kalakal
@bbleh: Phrenologists
I fear you’re right
Omnes Omnibus
@Juju: Ethnicity. Looking for WASPiness with maybe a bit of Anglo-Norman thrown in for good measure.
ETA: Being found “acceptable” by someone like that made me be feel unclean. And I was in Paddington, which should have been a Labour area.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
X is now operating on “All your music belong to us” mode.
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: Never mind. I am dense. Not Max answered the question for me
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: I am dense. It never occurred to me that that would be an issue.
jimmiraybob
Is there such a thing as a class-action restraining order?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
MSNBC chyron is reporting that DoJ is requesting a protective order because of trump’s posting. I’m not sure what that means, not seeing anything at NYT or Washington Post
only a small screen shot of the document they submitted
ETA:
bbleh
@NotMax: ok, let him say that in court and prove it to her satisfaction. Maybe bring in witnesses to affirm it. ‘Cuz it sure LOOKS like intimidation.
Omnes Omnibus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Not sure what it means? Trump fucked around. Smith and company are giving him an opportunity to find out.
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: Now that I understand what the request was about, that was a very offensive and repugnant request. Ick.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Omnes Omnibus: yes, but what does finding out look like?
bbleh
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: booyah! FAFO, MF. Hang him with his own words.
Omnes Omnibus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
At this point, probably a sternly worded letter.
kalakal
@Juju: You’re not dense. I’ve been going to pubs for decades, some of them very dodgy, and am genuinely shocked by that incident. Sadly having come across a few charmless gits from the dregs of Britain such as the B(ritish)N(ational)P(arty) and the N(ational)F(ront) I was able to get what was implied. Most of that lot are obvious knuckle draggers , you’d avoid them as soon as you see them, but the thoughts are the same
Jackie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Here’s more detail:
twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1687642534804127744?s=20
Hope this gets a response from the judge!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jackie: thanks
will they have to file another letter tomorrow? Do Smith’s lawyers get overtime on weekends?
Omnes Omnibus
@kalakal:
These guys seemed normal, tweed jacket and twin set (it was 1984), until the tentacles appeared.
BellyCat
@Omnes Omnibus: Prescient passage which I, too, frequently share. Loves me some A. Conan Doyle.
UncleEbeneezer
@kalakal: Really? In the US, especially in rural, mostly-white parts of the country I’d be surprised if I DIDN’T encounter some low-key racist/xenophobic comment from other white people. It’s really common here.
rikyrah
Kenny BooYah! 🖖🏾 (@KwikWarren) tweeted at 6:40 AM on Fri, Aug 04, 2023:
Republicans are drowning immigrants, talking about slitting people’s throats, saying slavery was good for black ppl, threatening to arrest pregnant women for crossing state lines, waging war on LGBTQ community&inciting an insurrection…yet, they remain politically viable?! How?!
(twitter.com/KwikWarren/status/1687428272844419072?s=02)
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Betty Cracker:
Blammo. ;)
Tehanu
@Suzanne:
So non-Dump supporters aren’t Americans. Well, we knew they “think” that (for values of “think” that would disgrace a cockroach).
NotMax
@bbleh
Fine by me but now I’m somewhat puzzled, as thought we were referencing an ad and not ravings on Pravda Social.
bbleh
@NotMax: ALL of ’em. Jerk him back into court and go over every one of them in detail, questioning him closely as to his involvement. Maybe he knew about the ad beforehand. Maybe he even saw it and approved it. And then the “truth”? Two in, what, 24 hours?
He’s openly challenging the justice system. Not clear to me that not pushing back is better than “not rising to the bait,” and at the very least it will get on the record in case of yet another violation.
Jackie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I guess we’ll find out. It’d sure be nice for a judge to follow through with their warnings! TIFG shouldn’t get away with using every threat he utters being “protected as free speech as a candidate.”
NotMax
@bbleh
Agree fully on holding a show cause hearing, not as a kneejerk reaction but at the judge’s discretion after parsing and analyzing what has transpired (which is by no means a protracted process).
J R in WV
Folks have been curious about my progress with a vile cancer diagnosis, so here a discussion of my treatments and progress. Today was a full day of chemotherapy at the Cancer Center, starting at 7.30am and lasting until the final 1000 ml of a “flush” saline solution was dripped into my port at about 3 pm.
They do some blood work first thing to be sure not to overdo any of the actual therapeutic drugs they administer. The first several drugs are intended to help the actual therapeutic drugs — cisplatin and gemcitabine — not overly affect me, which appears to work well.
I do two 8 hour sets of chemo a week apart and then have a week off. My wife is with me at first, and then a cousin joins us to relieve Wife — we leave the house in the dark to get to the Cancer Center on time.
My reaction to the chemo is relatively mild, mostly fatigue with no real nausea, thanks to the preliminary drugs they administer before they get to the cisplatin and gemcitabine parts of the drippage.
The chemo infusions appear to be working well… I had a CAT- scan earlier this week and it appears that the tumor has shrunken, although I now have other issues caused by the chemo drugs.
Anyway things are going as well as can be expected … I expect the chemo to continue for two more months, 4 sessions. I appreciate your interest in my progress and thank you for your support!
Omnes Omnibus
@J R in WV:
Good to hear from you. Keep on keeping on, man.
NotMax
@J R in WV
Hang in there and think positive. Pay attention to the fatigue and try to avoid overtaxing yourself.
Jackie
@J R in WV: Everyday I send positive and healing vibes your way. It’s so good to hear that you’re doing well and fighting cancer like hell. Continue taking care of yourself and know you’re in our thoughts daily. :3
Manyakitty
@J R in WV: wishing all the best for you.
Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)
@Omnes Omnibus: Always, always, listen to the Master.
Ruckus
@MagdaInBlack:
Me too. I just practice being a better person at least once a year. This was my once….
Kelly
Welp the first emergency fire alert of the summer hit our cell phones about an hour ago. Don’t worry about us it’s over 40 miles away and the wind is blowing away from us. It’s about 8 miles from Eugene/Springfield and would have to jump the McKenzie river. That is the direction the wind is blowing. A lot of firefighters and equipment are on the job.
CaseyL
@J R in WV: It is so good to see you around these parts again!
Thanks for the detailed update. I hope hope hope the treatment continues to be effective, and not nearly as bad as anticipated. Hang in there!
@Kelly: Oh, jeez. I used to know someone who lived right in that area, Vidalia (?) and I think she’s still living there. It’s been decades since we knew each other, but my memory of her property and the environs is lush and green.
Ruckus
@J R in WV:
Ouch. From experience with 4 of the 5 people in my family (including me) having had cancer, yours is easier that the other 3, who had to have it cut out and for 2 of them it really didn’t help.
I had what sounds like a completely different cancer and had to do 9 weeks of daily radiation treatment. It wasn’t fun but then the cancer is gone. And of course they figured out after I was done how to do the treatment in 2 weeks.
Best of luck, as even my minimal numbers show, treatment can be different for most everyone. It depends on the cancer, the location, the growth aggression, how long it’s grown before discovery, you…
But it can be beaten and once again best of luck.
Kelly
@CaseyL: Very dry around the Willamette Valley. Maybe a dozen small fires from farm equipment or roadside mishaps this week. Fingers crossed.
Burnspbesq
@Roger Moore:
They did. Trump’s social media post was included in the Special Counsel’s motion for protective order filed Friday night.
Shit’s about to get real.
Burnspbesq
@bbleh:
Hearing on Monday, to which they would be well advised to bring a toothbrush. Cuz you ain’t sleepin’ in your own bed on Monday night.
John Revolta
@J R in WV: Thanks for the update mate! All the best.
kalakal
@UncleEbeneezer: Oh there’s plenty of racist assholes in the UK, it’s more that they’re either upfront about it and really obvious eg BNP members are about as cunningly disguised as a MAGA at a TFG rally or pretty discreet about it unless they know someone well and think they’re like minded. What surprised with Omnes experience is that these toads were that obvious with someone they’d only just met in a pub
NotMax
@kalakal
In lager veritas.
;)
Odie Hugh Manatee
@J R in WV:
Please please please may everything go well for you! Thank you for the update and I know you are already doing so but do take care of (an occasionally spoil!) yourself.
Fuck cancer.
Donatellonerd
@Jackie: and abroad … (from an American in Paris)
Donatellonerd
@Villago Delenda Est: isn’t tiger beat on the potomac Charles Pierce’s name for Politico? or have i been misunderstanding all these years?
Wanderer
@J R in WV: So glad to see your post. The chemo days sound long indeed. All the best to you as you go through the treatment.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@J R in WV: good to hear from you. Best wishes.
No One You Know
@Betty Cracker: I choked on my coffee reading that. Love it.