Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The republican caucus is already covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Consistently wrong since 2002

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

“Why isn’t this Snickers bar only a nickle?”

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

Bad news for Ron DeSantis is great news for America.

Let there be snark.

He wakes up lying, and he lies all day.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

The revolution will be supervised.

In my day, never was longer.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

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There was much discussion on Wednesday (I think) about whether the Aug 8 hearing on Trump’s motion to disqualify Fani Willis  would still be happening after another judge ruled on what sort-of-mostly-seemed like the same thing.

We have our answer.

Amazingly, Trump’s attorneys have voluntarily dismissed their motion.  I would like to have been a fly on that wall to hear what their thinking was.  Since roads are being blocked off next week, did they figure out that their motion wasn’t going to stop Fani Willis?  Was Trump afraid it would make him appear weak to be smacked down yet again?  Whatever the reason, it’s unlikely to have been because it was the right thing to do.

On the other hand, who cares what he’s thinking?

I am glad, though, to see that Aug 8 hearing taken off the calendar.

In other good news, the two Justins won their special elections.

U.S. President Biden meets Tennessee representatives at the White House in Washington
Tennessee Democratic state representatives Justin Pearson and Justin Jones, who faced expulsion over their participation in gun control protests, and Gloria Johnson, who retained her seat.  Photo from April 2023.

Two Democratic lawmakers who were expelled from the Tennessee legislature earlier this year after angering the Republican majority with a protest against gun violence won a special election on Thursday to serve out the remainder of their terms.

Justin Pearson and Justin Jones both beat Republican challengers to reclaim their seats, the Associated Press reported.

Open thread.

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  3. 3.

    Scout211

    This  article adds that Trump and his attorneys will appeal the ruling to the state Supreme Court.

    Lawyers for former President Donald Trump declared late Thursday that they will appeal a judge’s ruling that shot down their bid to gut Fulton County District Fani Willis’s prosecution of alleged criminal interference in Georgia’s 2020 presidential election.

    . . .

    It was then assigned to Senior Judge Stephen Schuster from Cobb County, who scheduled a hearing on the matter for Aug. 10. But that will no longer be necessary because Trump’s attorneys on Thursday said they are voluntarily dismissing this challenge so they can pursue an appeal of McBurney’s order.

  4. 4.

    Anonymous At Work

    Also good news is that the liberals have taken back the Wisconsin Supreme Court and seem to be taking immediate action.

  5. 5.

    MattF

    Certainly looks like Willis is gearing up. They’re blocking off streets around the courthouse, starting Monday.

  6. 6.

    Anonymous At Work

    @Scout211: Seems legit path.  The state Supremes threw out the request for emergency relief as premature.  Now, Trump’s attorneys will play through the appeals system and hope the elected judges on teh state supreme will back the party over the law or justice.

  10. 10.

    geg6

    Seeing her photo with the Justins reminded me that Gloria Johnson is taking on MarshaMarshaMarsha Blackburn for the Senate seat. I don’t think she will win, but she’ll put up a hell of a fight. We need more of those kinds of fights and, eventually, we’ll win a few.

  11. 11.

    BellaPea

    @geg6: I would love to see Gloria Johnson win against the awful Blackburn, but it will be an uphill battle. Johnson is a former teacher, and she has a lot of credibility in the education field.

  12. 12.

    suzanne

    Good news. I’m feeling hopeful.

    I am sitting outside a video arcade in Cape May, because it is waaaaay too loud and chaotic inside. And I bought a cup of coffee and it cost $9.05 and it isn’t very good. And I had to pay with Venmo. The future is weird.

  13. 13.

    Craig

    I met Justin Pearson last month. Real sweet, smart guy. He went on stage a couple hours later and just uncorked a stem winder of a talk. Remarkable political talent.

  17. 17.

    Shalimar

    January 6th of 2024 is a Saturday.  To me, it seems like it would be the perfect symbolism that we are past all the long investigative delays if the trial in D.C. began on the Monday immediately after the anniversary.

  18. 18.

    OverTwistWillie

    @mvr:

    Tatertot Reeves Suggests ‘Higher-Paying Jobs’ For People Who Want Health Care

     

    Ahem.
    .
    .
    Fuck that guy.

  19. 19.

    bbleh

    Dems Win Two More Special Elections
    Why This Should Make Biden Worried
    Analysis by The Times

  20. 20.

    Ken

    @Shalimar: Maybe, but far more fitting if the trial’s over by October, and January 6 is when he reports to prison.

    (I know, not going to happen because of appeals….)

  22. 22.

    bbleh

    @Anonymous At Work: IIRC when they sent it back down the supremes made a few remarks concerning the merits of the suit that were not particularly favorable toward it.

    And anyway, Willis will probably indict long before they ever get to it again.  Heck, she may indict before an appeal is even filed.

  28. 28.

    Salty Sam

    Whatever the reason, it’s unlikely to have been because it was the right thing to do.

    They probably are tired of all the winning…

  30. 30.

    Anonymous At Work

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Yeah, pretty much but the intermediate appellate court has to rule and issue opinion before the Supremes decide to review, set a date, review, and issue opinion.  ALL of which has to beat Willis to the punch.  As bbleh noted, that’s unlikely.

    @bbleh:

    While true, this would be the first time they’ve weighed in on the conflict of interest that forced Willis to recuse for 1 fake elector, only for Trump.  New territory and a good opportunity to put thumb on scale for first time.

  32. 32.

    Anonymous At Work

    @Scout211: 2018, GOP got 46% of state Lege vote but 64% of seats.  Current map would require Democrats to get over 61% of two-party vote to breach 50%.

    WI Supremes will probably strike down map, appoint special maters, and try for 2024 maps.  I suspect we’ll see how the SCOTUS decides to protect partisan gerrymanders from state level review.

  33. 33.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Steve in the ATL: No, we are wondering about Jordan Love and thinking that he’s probably going to better than we fear but not as good as we hope.  While waiting for our cheese curds.  Try to keep up.

  34. 34.

    Anonymous At Work

    @WaterGirl: What Scout211 said, and that’s impartiality.  That vote disparity isn’t democratic or republican (lower-case).  Only “Republican” with a capital letter.

  37. 37.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    my never humble opinion: If you want to hurt Blackburn, keep her in the minority, that will need to happen in Montana, Ohio, Nevada and Arizona

  39. 39.

    Betty Cracker

    @Steve in the ATL: I hear Rodgers is a J-E-T jet now. Read somewhere the other day he’s being a model citizen in NYC and ostentatiously deemphasizing all the crackpot stuff that dented his marketability.

  40. 40.

    randy khan

    In other Trump news, I continue to marvel at his stupid lies.  Yesterday, in his statement after being arraigned, he threw in a line about terrible D.C. looked during his trip from the airport to the courthouse, describing, among other things, broken buildings.

    As it happens, I work near the courthouse, and walk and drive in that area all the time.  I don’t know the specific route he took, but on the route from the airport to the city itself is a parkway and a nice bridge, then you see the Jefferson Memorial, and then depending which way you go it’s mostly highways with nice buildings around or some of the nicer bits of D.C. – 14th Street, which goes across the Mall, Constitution Avenue or Pennsylvania Avenue (past, ironically enough, his former hotel), etc.  There’s not a single “broken” building and no visible graffiti or even much in the way of litter.

    What a jerk.

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    @Scout211: Thanks!  So it’s the folks filing the lawsuit about gerrymandering that are not wasting any time; it’s not that the Supreme Court has taken action on day 1.  Either way, progress!

  43. 43.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl: From that PBS article I posted:

    Protasiewicz ran with support from Democrats and other critics of the current maps and was outspoken during the campaign about her desire to revisit the issue.

    “The map issue is really kind of easy, actually,” Protasiewicz said during a candidate debate. “I don’t think anybody thinks those maps are fair. Anybody.”

  47. 47.

    different-church-lady

    I suppose a semi-competent lawyer might have said, “Let’s stop wasting our time on this hopeless angle and spend it on something that might work instead.” They’ve got so much to cover that resources are probably getting stretched pretty thin.

  48. 48.

    LAO

    OT, Fox News is going to be lit tonight.  There’s a “riot” in Union Square in NYC. Apparently a famous YouTuber (I have no idea who he is, Kai something) was making an appearance. Very crowded with kids and large fight broke out.  Cops are moving in with brutal force.

  49. 49.

    trnc

    In other good news, the two Justins won their special elections.

    If anyone sees any suggestion by the NYT or any other mainstream outlet that the republicans may have overreached on this, mark the date.

  56. 56.

    Shalimar

    @Betty Cracker: Part of the crackpot stuff in Green Bay was developing signals with his receivers that the coaches didn’t even know, which made for a very high learning curve to work with Rodgers and gave him a way of punishing receivers he didn’t like.  The results were great and he got away with it because of the prodigious talent, but that is not good coaching.

    His offensive coordinator in New York is his favorite coach from the Packers, Hackett.  I find it hard to believe the Jets offense is going to work differently from how Rodgers has operated for over a decade.  It’s fine.  But it won’t be less dysfunctional.

  63. 63.

    LAO

    @Scout211: I couldn’t figure out how to link to the Citizen app. Thank you for posting.

    im annoyed I have to take my dog out ( I live near union square).

  64. 64.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    Petri at the Post describing Trump’s real indictment:

    “Sir,” the strong men wept. “Sir, we have never seen anything like this witch hunt, where people are trying to charge you with crimes just because you attempted to overturn the election! And we are all judges and lawyers, and one of us is even a fireman!” They held one another and sobbed. Several even tore their garments, though Trump was relieved to see that they had extra garments underneath.

  65. 65.

    JPL

    @LAO: They need to arrest the asshole who promised free playstations.

    just sayin if you call for a riot, they you deerve to be held responsible.

  69. 69.

    Ohio Mom

    @mvr: I am reminded of the vote in Florida to restore voting rights to those who had served time/repaid their debt to society, and the shenanigans that followed.

    The threat of reimprisonment if unknowable, unreasearchable and therefore unpayable fees and fines were not taken care of squelched any of the newly enfranchised’s desire to take up voting.

    I won’t be surprised if Mississippi does something similar.

  72. 72.

    zhena gogolia

    @Haroldo: The old fashioned is Don Draper’s drink, but he makes it with bourbon. (I’m just now watching Mad Men. I can never watch the thing everyone’s watching when they’re watching it.)

  74. 74.

    Fair Economist

    @Scout211: It’s more important IMO to address the Wisconsin legislature gerrymander. Republicans hold a supermajority of seats with a MINORITY of votes. That’s not even vaguely democratic.

  76. 76.

    Dan B

    @rikyrah:  There’s also a visiting scholar at Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s conservative at UT Austin who’s a completely deranged racist, white supremacists, misogynist, etc.  Thiel, J.D. Vance, and Silicon Valley billionaires are fans.  He calls for getting all Hispanics who came to the US after 1965 eliminated.  He wants eugenicide for all low IQ people who will mostly be black and brown.  Texas, where good goes to die

    Richard Hanania is his name.

  77. 77.

    Tony G

    @BellaPea: Of course, a lot of Americans believe that all teachers are evil incarnate and are trying groom and indoctrinate their tender children to turn them into transgender Communists.  I wish I was making this up.

  79. 79.

    mvr

    @Ohio Mom: Yes, and there is also the possibility that the full circuit would revisit the case.  The two in the panel who heard the case who formed the majority were D appointments.  But still, this was unexpected (by me anyway) and so it is good news.

  80. 80.

    trollhattan

    For California peeps, the gov has signed an EO extending the flood response and repair orders taken last winter-spring into the coming storm season, to continue expediting repairs and further preparation. In case, you know, it decides to rain two years in a row. Wonder what that’s like?

    Deets, and a copy of the full text, here:

    https://mavensnotebook.com/2023/08/04/this-just-in-governor-newsom-signs-executive-order-to-prepare-for-the-next-wet-season/

    Demonstrating likewise, that walking and chewing gum is for governors, too.

  82. 82.

    Rusty

    @Fair Economist: Gerrymandering isn’t just for Wisconsin.  In New Hampshire the Democrats got more votes for the state senate, house and executive committee, yet didn’t control any of them.  For the senate, the Republicans held 14 of 24 seats despite Democrats getting the majority, the house they only had 4 extra seats out of 400 because it’s harder to gerrymander at such low number of voters.  Unfortunately the majority of the state supreme court was appointed by Republicans and they look very unlikely to fix the problem.

  84. 84.

    eversor

    Hearing that Trumps team is upset over Mr.  Trump and Not President Trump.

    It’s striking to me that Trump and his crew don’t grasp the difference between a “rank and title” and a rank and title.  One of these, is granted permanently by congress or a group of your peers or superiors.  The other is a temporary honorific you are granted while doing a job.  The lines may blur (professional courtsey, and many people with granted ranks and titles also hold temporary ones) but it’s largely pretty clear.  You are no longer a president when you stop presidenting, but if you are a USMC General you are always that, but you don’t keep specific command titles.  Hence Admiral Stavridis still Admiral, but he is former Supreme Allied Commander as he is not in that function now.

    Also most retired people hate that rank crap but know it’s needed in places and times.  As someone who works next to a lot of former star ranks (and former NCO here) not a damn one of them wants the honors of it.   And if I were to start using ranks they’d be upset.  We use first names.  If it’s a “sir” moment it’s a formal function and we both realize we both feel fucking stupid doing it.  If it’s a General or Admiral moment we both stupid then too.  And then go right back to cursing and swearing like proper vets.

    For a bunch of “support da troops!” idiots they sure as fuck don’t understand it.  But then again we have conservatives saying young men should be forced into the military cause that will stop the cursing, drinking, video games, and porn.  Which is just mind blowing.  Have they met the military?  I’m all for military service and I loved mine but apart from the entire war part of it most of what I did involved cursing, drinking, video games and porn.

    It’s like all these people beamed down from another planet.

  86. 86.

    Villago Delenda Est

    The Justins beat the Rethuglican assholes challenging them like rented mules, that’s how much they won.

  91. 91.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @eversor: young men should be forced into the military cause that will stop the cursing, drinking, video games, and porn. Which is just mind blowing. Have they met the military?

    No.

  93. 93.

    trollhattan

    @eversor: ​
    They all take similar pains to refer to the predecessor as “President Obama” now don’t they? And how, pray tell, do they reference President Clinton?

  95. 95.

    Ocotillo

    @suzanne:  You should have taken a photo of the expensive coffee and tweeted it, blaming it on Bidenomics.  sarcasm in case you didn’t know

  99. 99.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @eversor:

    I’m all for military service and I loved mine but apart from the entire war part of it most of what I did involved cursing, drinking, video games and porn.

    As a civilian employee of the Army, my required annual training included a lot of the same training the active duty Army got. A lot of it was pretty well done, involving very well-acted video scenarios where you would have to make choices and then experience the consequences of your choices.
    That was pretty… educational.​

  101. 101.

    zhena gogolia

    @UncleEbeneezer: I’m totally hooked. I know it supposedly goes downhill at some point, but the acting, costumes, and music keep me enthralled. (The characters’ behavior doesn’t always make sense over the long haul, but so what.)

  102. 102.

    eversor

    @Haroldo:

    From the DC, MD, and VA area with the other realtives up in NYC and Philly.  So PHD in Mid Atlantic shit talk where fuck you is the local greeting.

  104. 104.

    Roger Moore

    @eversor:

    Trump and his people want everyone to call him President Trump because it’s part of election denialism.  They aren’t saying he deserves to be called “President” because it’s a courtesy due to all former presidents; they’re saying he’s still the rightful president.  That makes it extremely important not to give in to their demands, especially in official proceedings.

  105. 105.

    laura

    @rikyrah: witnessing the righteous truth speaking to and calling out unaccountable power is a beautiful- and refreshing thing to behold.

  107. 107.

    RevRick

    @bbleh: Yeah, it’s terrible news. And while the Democratic candidate got clobbered in the third special election, she greatly over performed Biden’s result in 2020.
    While special elections are, by definition, idiosyncratic, they are often quite predictive. And Democrats have been over performing by an average of 7.5% in special elections. Again, that’s no guarantee of future results, but it is definitely a hopeful sign.

    Meanwhile, in Ohio, Democrats are showing up in greater numbers than Republicans, and women are showing up and much greater numbers than men, in the the Constitutional ballot question on August 8th. It looks like it’s shaping up as another Kansas.

  112. 112.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Anonymous At Work:

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Well, that’s good news at least. Thanks to you both.

    Now, Issue 1 in Ohio needs to be defeated. I voted early and mailed off 25 postcards over the past week and half. One thing that gives me hope is that there’s been a fairly high turnout, probably the exact opposite of what the Ohio GOP wanted for an August election, which were abolished for being so low turnout

  116. 116.

    eversor

    @trollhattan:

    We both know they don’t.  But I’ve met ex presidents before and the ones with charisma, or just a shred of human decency will just flat out introduce themselves by their first name and refer to their spouse by the first name.

    Haven’t met Trump though and don’t want to.

  118. 118.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @zhena gogolia: Even the final season, which some feel was a let down, was still very good and super-stylish.

    If you like 1960’s style, Good Girls Revolt is also definitely worth watching (though nowhere near as good as Mad Men).

  120. 120.

    narya

    @Omnes Omnibus: My understanding is that that’s in part because of the venerated brandy Old Fashioned. (I’ve never had one, and have no intention of breaking that streak, but the supper club tradition I guess is what makes it happen?)

  122. 122.

    Haroldo

    @zhena gogolia:

    The old fashioned is Don Draper’s drink, but he makes it with bourbon. (I’m just now watching Mad Men. I can never watch the thing everyone’s watching when they’re watching it.)

    Also, Omnes Omnibus:

    The old joke is Green Bay, WI has the highest per capita consumption of brandy in WI and also the lowest per capita consumption of soap.

    My home town….

  123. 123.

    Captain C

    @JPL: I saw some live footage of what I’m guessing was his SUV speeding away after it escaped the crowd, with several people hanging on to it.  At least one biffed it hard falling off, and a couple others looked like they controlled their falls but still didn’t land well.

  124. 124.

    LAO

    @JPL: Kai was taken in to custody by the NYPD but that doesn’t mean he was arrested. (According to CBS local news).

  125. 125.

    bbleh

    @trollhattan: @eversor: it’s an honorific, sorta like Kentucky Colonels being addressed as “Colonel” even when they’re not one anymore.  It’s polite but not necessary, and you wouldn’t use it in situations where it would be seen as fawning or unduly formal.

    She would have been wrong to address him as “Mr President” from the bench; that would be seen as overt favoritism.  He’s a citizen charged with a crime, so he’s “Mr.”  And she addressed him as “sir” in other remarks, as she should any male defendant.

    I gather he was annoyed at having to wait too.  I am a bad person, so that brings me joy.

  127. 127.

    eclare

    I live in Memphis, but not in Justin’s district.  I knew he would win, we knew exactly what TPTB in Nashville were saying with his expulsion.

  128. 128.

    dmsilev

    @bbleh:

    ’s an honorific, sorta like Kentucky Colonels being addressed as “Colonel” even when they’re not one anymore.

    I’m reminded of the scene in Inherit the Wind where the Clarence Darrow stand-in character demands, and is bestowed, the title of “Temporary Honorary Colonel”.

  130. 130.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Old news, but new to me. Sinead O’Connor passed away last week. Reading up about her, she was a talented singer-songwriter and an impressive activist

  132. 132.

    bbleh

    @RevRick: but … but I read in one of the Important Newspapers that Republican turnout in 2022 was high, so even though they did kinda really badly in the, y’know, results of the elections, Democrats should still be worried!!11!

    And yes, liking what I’m seeing from Ohio, but it’s still early days …

  134. 134.

    surfk9

    Mrs Surfk9 and I going to a protest this evening. Kari Lake has brought her little band of election denying freaks to quiet our little burg. They are billing it as Freedom Fest. One of the speakers is the Supervisor who represents our area. We will be protesting alongside the Atheists and Free thinkers and several other progressive groups.

  135. 135.

    eclare

    @geg6:

    I live here.  The one thing that is heavily in Gloria’s favor is that she is from East TN.  East TN is heavily R, so if she can peel off a few of those, and roll up the D’s in the middle and west TN, which she will, she has a shot.

    No candidate from west TN will ever win statewide.  East hates the west.

  142. 142.

    Ruckus

    @randy khan:

    He meant that the inside of the buildings are broken because they don’t unequivocally support him, in every way, shape and word.

  143. 143.

    Scout211

    @surfk9: Kari Lake has brought her little band of election denying freaks to quiet our little burg

    Hey, have fun you two!  I’ve been seeing the signs for “freedom fest” on the way into Lodi and Stockton the past few weeks but I had no idea what it was.  But ewww!  Kari Lake?  Yikes.

    Go forth and protest well.  :)

  145. 145.

    Jay C

    @eclare:

    I read that one of the TN Justins won his race with 93% of the vote.

    Presumably, his opponent may pass on a recount?

  148. 148.

    Ken

    @surfk9: Do you live in Arizona? Or is this part of her national “I’m the presumptive vice-presidential nominee” tour?

  149. 149.

    Scout211

    @Ken: It’s in Lodi California Link

    On Aug. 4, Lake will be the keynote speaker at “San Joaquin Freedom Fest,” an event hosted by the San Joaquin Conservatives. The event is being held at Hutchins Street Square, and features a handful of conservative faces scheduled to attend, including San Joaquin County Supervisor Steve Ding, Shasta County Supervisor Kevin Crye, and Sherronna Bishop, former campaign manager for Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado.

  151. 151.

    surfk9

    @Ken: I live in California in a town called Lodi. This tour is about election denialism. Our County Supervisor member is an election denier, and an all around piece of work.​

  156. 156.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @WaterGirl: ​
      I’ll play if Steve will. But you have to understand that you are likely to get a lot of music that appeals to a very particular class of people. And that class is pretty small.

  158. 158.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @trollhattan: There is a Lodi in WI, and, as a little kid, I assume it was the titular town.  You don’t really want to be stuck there either.

  161. 161.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Beth: I don’t think they have been in the same courtroom yet.  The arraignment was handled by a magistrate judge.

  166. 166.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Speaking of music, I recall you saying you were a Dead Kennedys fan. What would you say was their best album? Pretty much every song on Frankenchrist is a banger and their last album, Bedtime for Democracy, also had some great songs on it

  171. 171.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @surfk9: The one in WI?  I got trapped there by the high school homecoming parade.  There is no way through that town without going through the Hwy 113 and 60 intersection.  Believe me, I tried.

  178. 178.

    RevRick

    @bbleh: As of Wednesday, over 533,000 have voted in person or by mail! They’re predicting gubernatorial level turnout.

  181. 181.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @NotMax: There’s a Lodi in NJ.

    Where my grandmother and (step)grandfather[1] lived on Garibaldi Avenue to the end of their days. She failed to wake up the morning of the wedding of one of her grandsons.[2] He, in classic Corleonic fashion [3], stroked out amongst the tomato plants in the vegetable garden out back and died a few days later.

    Just sayin’.

    [1] Biological grandfather died when my father was 4.

    [2] The ceremony and reception went off as planned; no one told the bride’s family, who were understandably bemused by how somber the groom’s side was.

    [3] Befitting a siciliano born in Messina.

  185. 185.

    frosty

    @Omnes Omnibus: Oh no, I actually enjoy the music you guys link to. I like WG’s suggestion. It’s time to dig into the 80s. If I can die without ever hearing Rolling Stones or Zeppelin again I can die happy. Well, maybe except for Levee Breaks. And OK Paint It Black.

  189. 189.

    Betsy

    It’s easy: he wants to continue railing against her.  All he has is rhetoric and his thug-baiting since the facts are not something he is connected with.  He will get the most out of this he can.

  190. 190.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

     

    @Jackie: Haven’t seen a challenger lose that badly since Bill and Opus running on the Meadow Party ticket in 1988.

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