Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

There’s always a light at the end of the frog.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

DeSantis transforming Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

Cole, when it comes to calico cats, restraint is overrated.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

It’s a good piece. click on over. but then come back!!

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

And we’re all out of bubblegum.

People are complicated. Love is not.

Putin dreamed of ending NATO, and now it’s Finnish-ed.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself. We’re allowed to grow past that.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

“woke” is the new caravan.

Just because you believe it, that doesn’t make it true.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

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  3. 3.

    TaMara

    I am not, as long as we are in the Find Out phase of his life, I’m ok with it. What I don’t want to hear is how he’s leading in the polls, until someone tells me how many Republicans are still in his cult, 40% means nothing.

    40% of 1 million is lots less than 30% of 80 million. It means nothing without context.

  4. 4.

    Old School

    He’s thinking about it.

    The failed District Attorney of Fulton County (Atlanta), Fani Willis, insisted on a $200,000 Bond from me. I assume, therefore, that she thought I was a “flight” risk – I’d fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold domed suite with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again. Would I be able to take my very “understated” airplane with the gold TRUMP affixed for all to see. Probably not, I’d be much better off flying commercial – I’m sure nobody would recognize me!

  5. 5.

    Tony Jay

    There is a process, this is it.

     While you’re waiting for the flush to work, consider this.

    The stereotype we have of all Frenchmen being beret-wearing, fag-smoking, onion-selling guys in black and white striped jumpers comes from the 20s and 30s when up to 50,000 of them would cross the Channel on ferries and flog their wares all across southern England.

    Thing is, they were all from Brittany, and that was a specifically Breton fashion. The French generally are as baffled by our stereotypical image of them as we would be if everyone in France thought everyone in Britain wore a kilt and ate battered Mars Bars.

    The things you learn watching QI.

  7. 7.

    hells littlest angel

    Try him in absentia.

     

    Throw in a “dead or alive” bounty and I’m sold.

  9. 9.

    MattF

    Right. The country has gone completely to hell in the two and a half years since he was in charge, he says. So, the logical thing to do is leave. Either Russia or KSA would welcome him, I’d guess.

  10. 10.

    Joy in FL

    I’m sick of the attention he is being given. I’m with you.

    I wish that a network like MSNBC would devote equal time to the benefits of the Inflation Reduction Act. Interview some people who have jobs because of it, or some scientists who can describe the environmental benefits. Those things are worthy of attention, and they could put focus on President Biden and Democrats.

  11. 11.

    rikyrah

    This is the first time I’m not sick of hearing about him.

    He’s run into people who don’t give a phuck.

    Cannon the Stooge aside, I love these judges and Prosecutors not giving a phuck and going for his throat.

  12. 12.

    RaflW

    Let him leave, and then cancel his passport. That was pretty much what I said on here like a year ago.

    He can be a stateless fu*k, let his wacko volunteer lawyers figure it out.

  13. 13.

    rikyrah

    He needs to leave The Mouse alone.

     

    Lesley Abravanel  (@lesleyabravanel) posted at 7:22 AM on Tue, Aug 22, 2023:
    Petty, vindictive Ron DeSantis, mad that he never got to go to the Bibbidy Bobbity Boo Salon at Cinderella Castle, wants to strip Disney workers of free passes and discounts, arguing it sucks millions from Florida’s economy #GoDisney https://t.co/pKCXu3kHzs
    (https://twitter.com/lesleyabravanel/status/1693961763572576686?t=i-jA2IyaOejxsBHsYFLSUQ&s=03)

  16. 16.

    Suzanne

    @Old School:

    I’d fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold domed suite with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again. 

    God, a girl can only dream.

  18. 18.

    SiubhanDuinne

    This morning, DA Fani Willis rejected Mark Meadows’ request to move his trial to federal court, and I love her statement:

    “I am not granting any extensions. I gave 2 weeks for people to surrender themselves to the court. Your client is no different than any other criminal defendant in this jurisdiction,” Willis said in the email. “The two weeks was a tremendous courtesy. At 12:30 p.m. on Friday I shall file warrants in the system. My team has availability to meet to discuss reasonable consent bonds Wednesday and Thursday.”

    I love it very hard indeed

  19. 19.

    RaflW

    @rikyrah: Rhonda Santis is such a freak. Just days ago he was saying he wanted Disney to drop it’s suit against him (as governor), now he is once again finding something inane to try to massively micromanage/government overreach into.

    Ron: “I want a government so small it can get into the pass benefits section of your H.R. manual.”

  21. 21.

    oldster

    @rikyrah:

    This is typical of Desantis — he pretends to be a free-market Republican, but he is actually a fan of statist big-government control. No corporation, no private business, can be allowed to make its own decisions about how to compensate its employees, if Desantis takes a personal dislike to that company.

    He wants government to be able to control all businesses, so that he can take revenge on them. Businesses now enjoy less government interference in China than they do in Florida.

    He is a disgrace, no matter what your political leanings may be.

  22. 22.

    delphinium

    Me too. I am interested in the more in-depth legal analysis and potential outcomes of the charges for him and others, but don’t need to hear Trump’s constant whining, view his threats/intimidation on social media nor see his ugly mug anywhere. While we are at it, Bill Barr can fuck off also.

  23. 23.

    Scout211

    I’m So Fucking Sick and Tired of Hearing About Trump

    Me too. But I still am interested in his downfall.  I’m sure it’s just around the corner.  Yeah, it could happen.  Maybe.

    You know who else I’m tired of hearing about?  Elon Musk.

    His latest attempt to “fix” twitter so it makes him more money, or stems the bleeding of money down the drain:
    Elon Musk Confirms News Headlines, Story Text To Disappear from X

    The change is designed to reduce the size of posts in users’ feeds, in order to fit more posts onto a screen, according to the report.
    “It’s something Elon wants. They were running it by advertisers, who didn’t like it, but it’s happening,” a source told Fortune.

  25. 25.

    JPL

    @rikyrah:  Decades ago we purchased an Arvida house which was owned by Disney.   It was in GA and we had discounts for Disney World which we took advantage of.   Disney sold it soon after.

    So DeSantis is okay with other company perks, but not that particular one.

  26. 26.

    rikyrah

    @RaflW:

    @rikyrah: Rhonda Santis is such a freak. Just days ago he was saying he wanted Disney to drop it’s suit against him (as governor), now he is once again finding something inane to try to massively micromanage/government overreach into.

     

    does he think this makes him look smart? Makes him look petty. These are working folk and they get a pass as a benefit of working there.

  27. 27.

    rikyrah

    @oldster:

    He wants government to be able to control all businesses, so that he can take revenge on them. Businesses now enjoy less government interference in China than they do in Florida.

     

    And Disney knows this, which is why they’re not dropping their lawsuit. They are going to make an example of him, and I can’t wait.

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    @Scout211:

    You know who else I’m tired of hearing about?  Elon Musk.

    His latest attempt to “fix” twitter so it makes him more money, or stems the bleeding of money down the drain:

     

    THIS is going to be a case study in every business school in the country before it’s all said and done.

  30. 30.

    Laertes

    We need some new counterpart to money bail, where we offer the perp some sum of money large enough to induce him to save everyone the bother and just flee the jurisdiction.

  31. 31.

    Suzanne

    @oldster:

    This is typical of Desantis — he pretends to be a free-market Republican, but he is actually a fan of statist big-government control. 

    That makes him a typical Republican. They don’t have any principles. They don’t believe in anything. They have no positive vision of the collective future. They just want to use the power of government to fuck with people. They’re nothing but bullies. They just want to take everything for themselves.

    Calling them thieves would be a compliment.

  32. 32.

    Betty Cracker

    @TaMara: & @rikyrah: I’m with y’all, relishing every detail because rich, powerful loudmouths so rarely get the comeuppance they deserve. Also, what a nightmare for Repubs — wall-to-wall coverage of Trump’s crimes leading up to an election. They had their chance to get rid of him, and they made excuses for that treasonous creep instead. May he now drag them to the bottom of the Mariana Trench — I’ll be watching with popcorn!

  34. 34.

    Betty Cracker

    @Scout211: Wow, what a stone-cold stupid move. Also, I’m no galaxy-brain coding genius like Musk, but couldn’t the news outlets skirt that restriction by simply embedding text in the image?

  35. 35.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @JPL: Rudy was having trouble paying for his defense, maybe he will have to bum a ride to surrender.

  36. 36.

    Suzanne

    @Betty Cracker: I was just on the phone with my aunt, and we were musing on what are the appropriate wine and cheese pairings for the myriad indictments and perp walks?

  38. 38.

    oldster

    @Suzanne:

    “That makes him a typical Republican. They don’t have any principles.”

    You won’t get any argument from me. But it’s surprising how many heartland voters who are mid-size businessmen, how many car dealers and plumbing contractors, think that the Republican party is the pro-business party. We need to spell it out for them, that it ain’t any longer, if it ever was.

  41. 41.

    Tony Jay

    @Roberto el oso:

    Ha! No, not this time. Just a stonking example of traditional Scots cuisine. There is literally nothing they won’t dip in batter.

    Which does sound like a euphemism for Mick’s main hobby, now that I think if it.

  42. 42.

    Trivia Man

    @Tony Jay: I listen to No Such Thing As A Fish, but I can’t find QI on a podcast. How can I watch?

    Any other  funny, quirky, informative Brit shows?

  43. 43.

    Baud

    I don’t mind actual news about Trump’s legal situation. What I’m tired of is the cable gab fest about Trump’s legal situation.  It’s mostly fluff and speculation.

  44. 44.

    Suzanne

    @oldster: A lot of those mid-size businessmen also want to use government to fuck with certain people and take their resources. If exposing hypocrisy was an effective means of persuasion, the GOP would already be nothing but dust.

  45. 45.

    TaMara

    @Betty Cracker: I bought something called Mushroom Popcorn (a friend insisted I needed it). Its from Amish growers and I guess it has huge thumb-sized kernels. Looking forward to popping some up when Trump turns himself in.

  46. 46.

    oldster

    @Suzanne:

    “If exposing hypocrisy was an effective means of persuasion….”

    Alas, I’m afraid you’re right. People are sometimes motivated by the hypocrisy of their enemies, but the hypocrisy of their own side seldom troubles them. It’s almost like hypocrisy gives rise to meta-hypocrisy….

  48. 48.

    lowtechcyclist

    @rikyrah:

    This is the first time I’m not sick of hearing about him.

    This.

    I want him to be imprisoned for the rest of his life.  It’s important to establish that no one is above the law.  Yes, rich and important people will always get breaks that the rest of us don’t.  But it’s important to minimize those breaks to the best of our society’s ability to do so.  And it’s got to start right here.

    Letting him slip out by the back door to Dubai or KSA or Russia would be a failure in that respect.  It probably doesn’t matter that much to him just where in the world his gilded hotel suite is located, so long as he can continue to live a life of luxury, and rant to his followers on Truth Social.

    So no to all that. Try the fat orange bastard, and in all likelihood he will be convicted of enough crimes to require that will never again be free.  In which case lock him up for the rest of his life – and may it be a loooooooooong one, so that every hour of boredom is just more torture to him.

  49. 49.

    Roger Moore

    @RaflW:

    Ron: “I want a government so small it can get into the pass benefits section of your H.R. manual.”

    I like to use the line that Republicans want to shrink government until it’s small enough to probe a woman’s vagina.  No matter how you slice it, the Republicans’ idea of small government is incoherent.

  50. 50.

    Tony G

    @oldster: But DeSantis hates the people who are hated by the GOP “base”.  If Trump drops dead tomorrow, then DeSantis will be the new “leader” of the Republican Party.  The fact that DeSantis is incapable of simulating recognizable human characteristics will not hinder him.  The same was true of Nixon, back in the day, and Nixon had tremendous support because he “hated the right people”.

  51. 51.

    Tony Jay

    @Trivia Man:

    It’s a BBC show so I’m sure it must be on BBC America or whatever they’re calling it now. And apparently – “Britbox Apple TV Channel , BritBox, BritBox Amazon Channel or for free with ads on Tubi TV”.

    There’s actually a current dearth of really good British comedy shows. I guess the Tories running the BBC just couldn’t find enough ‘conservative comedians’ to balance out the actually funny ones who kept on taking the piss out of the Government, so they just stopped making them.

  52. 52.

    Betty Cracker

    @Suzanne: Ooooo, what a great idea! I may celebrate the Eastman surrender earlier today with a nice Sancerre paired with a Chèvre cheese and baguette slices. For the Trump perp walk, maybe we’ll go with a Pinot Noir and aged Gouda or Stilton. Or Double Gloucester!

  53. 53.

    AxelFoley

    Seriously. That sumbitch Trump has been in the news daily since he came down that escalator in 2015. I’m beyond tired of hearing about this muhfucka.  Trust, I can’t WAIT until he’s tried, prosecuted, and imprisoned, hopefully for the rest of his miserable life.

  54. 54.

    Alison Rose

    This is what my mom and I say every time we talk. I’m just so fucking sick of hearing him, seeing him, hearing people talk about him. I’m tired of him being the God damn center of our whole political universe. To quote Dark Brandon, “Would you shut up, man?” I never wish death on anyone but it will be a fucking relief once the Lord finally decides to call this mishap of creation home.

  55. 55.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Baud: ​
     

    What I’m tired of is the cable gab fest about Trump’s legal situation. It’s mostly fluff and speculation.

    But not tired enough to turn off the TV, or at least change the channel to something unrelated to politics?

  56. 56.

    Roger Moore

    @Betty Cracker:

    couldn’t the news outlets skirt that restriction by simply embedding text in the image?

    Twitter has been fighting that by changing the way images are displayed.  I’m not sure if you’ve noticed, but they almost always cut off the edges of images these days, and I assume it’s to make it more difficult to use images that way.  At the very least, it requires people click on the image rather than see it in-line.  Making various forms of embedding malfunction seems to be a major goal for Twitter these days.  It’s classic enshitification: instead of making the product better, they make it worse strategically.

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    Shared with no further comment.

    A tour guide and all seven members of their party have been found dead after being trapped underground by flood waters in Moscow’s sewer system, Russian media say.

    Sunday’s floods, caused by heavy rain, were so rapid people could not escape. The group was exploring the underground Neglinka, a tributary of the city’s main river, the Moskva.

    The search operation had ended and efforts were being made to formally identify the dead, investigators said. City Mayor Sergei Sobyanin on Monday described the incident as a “terrible tragedy”. Several companies offer tours of the city’s sewers, some of which date from the 19th Century.

    Most of the victims appear to have been washed into the Moskva and were found by divers near the city’s central Zaryadye park. A criminal investigation has been launched into what was described as an “illegal excursion” amid allegations that safety standards were not adhered to. Investigators said they had identified three people involved in organising the tour. At least one has been arrested and charged, they said, but another is thought to have left the country for the United Arab Emirates.

    Originally more than 20 people signed up for the tour, the Ria news agency said, although most of them later withdrew because of the weather forecast.

  58. 58.

    TheronWare

    It will be truly  wonderful come the time we no longer talk about Donald Trump or see that immense pumpkin head on our tv screens assaulting our sanity. I do look forward to his being held to account and suffering one way or another for the rest of his existence .

  60. 60.

    trollhattan

    @Alison Rose: It was well into 2021, maybe ’22, when I finally stopped involuntarily flinching at “Today, the president…” being uttered on the news.

  61. 61.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Scout211:

    You know who else I’m tired of hearing about? Elon Musk.

    Me too.  There’s no pressing need to hear about whatever is the latest stupidity he’s engaging in.

  64. 64.

    sdhays

    @Betty Cracker: What a different world this would be if Peter Thiel had failed to oust Musk from PayPal, Musk was allowed to run PayPal/”X” into the ground, and neither one of those turds had made a fortune selling it to eBay!

  66. 66.

    satby

    @ John: so cute kitty pictures aren’t diversion enough?

    @Baud: I gave up on news in this country a long time ago: too vapid, too massaged to lead viewers along the path the news media wanted you to follow. Now I just read it, and find international news sources better than U.S. ones.

  67. 67.

    trollhattan

    @Betty Cracker: Whine and cheese are the sacramental embodiment of Trump.

    “I’m being treated so unfairly!” Drink!
    “Look at this beautiful penthouse, I think it’s spectacular.” Nibble.

  68. 68.

    Jeffro

    @Old School: I know it’s hard for folks to wrap their heads around formerly crazy stuff

    (like the idea of an American president being the puppet of a hostile foreign power…or an American president slow-walking and then screwing up our nation’s pandemic response to benefit – or so he thought – his re-election…or an American president NOT resigning when the public found out that he paid hush money to a porn star he had an affair with…or NOT running for re-election after being found liable for defamation as a result of his raping a women years ago…)

    …but it’s probably time to consider that this traitor may well flee the country AND still continue to ‘campaign’ (ie, cause chaos for our democracy) outside the reach of American law enforcement.

    At this point, I can see him trying to incite violence against his various prosecutors from a suite in Saudi Arabia or Russia, easily.

  69. 69.

    Subsole

    @TaMara:

    Ah, I see you remember the media’s reaction to Pharoah Dumbses and Darth Cheney’s admin going toes up, too…

    Man, it really is amazing just how long they’ve been screwing the chicken now. You’d think they’d get an omelet out of it, at least.

  70. 70.

    Mallard Filmore

    @oldster: 

    Businesses now enjoy less government interference in China than they do in Florida.

    That is not necessarily a good thing. Put – cooking oil gutter – into Google and you will find YouTube videos like “WARNING: Gutter Oil In China Used In Street Food”

    Then there are the Tofu Dregs construction projects. It’s what happens when oligarchs are allowed to run wild.

    The CCP says they are Socialist with Chinese characteristics … naww, they are predatory capitalists.

  73. 73.

    Jeffro

    @Betty Cracker:

    I may celebrate the Eastman surrender earlier today with a nice Sancerre paired with a Chèvre cheese and baguette slices. For the Trump perp walk, maybe we’ll go with a Pinot Noir and aged Gouda or Stilton. Or Double Gloucester!

    Sounds like a good opportunity to self-publish on Amazon: The Trump Indictments Cocktail Party Guide (or something like that): Pairing Wines, Cheeses and More As Orangemandias Swirls Down The Drain.

    Also note to self: stock up on Advil, cold compresses, and Pedialyte.  =)

  74. 74.

    schrodingers_cat

    I am sure you are not as bored as I am hearing about Modi. I have been hearing about him since 2002. How people I know and respect can’t see through that charlatan is something I will never understand.

  76. 76.

    Betty Cracker

    @Roger Moore: Do you know if the requirement to manually add ledes, headlines, etc., applies to publishers too or just users retweeting stuff? In either case, maybe it’ll finally drive news outlets off the site and accelerate its collapse. What a fucking idiot.

  78. 78.

    Mallard Filmore

    @WaterGirl: 

    he can’t do squat if that’s part of the compensation package of a private company.

    A few decades ago airlines were forced to give up providing free rides to employee family members. I think it counted as additional salary.

  79. 79.

    Almost Retired

    I draw a distinction between hearing about his legal woes and the outbound rat traffic jam from his sinking ship.  Which I savor.  But I can’t bear to see his Orange Pepe the Frog face, with his arms and stubby little digits doing that accordion thing while he incoherently portrays himself as both martyr and messiah.

  81. 81.

    JPL

    @LAO:  My current obsession is Rudy.   I keep refreshing AJC and apparently he hasn’t arranged for bond yet.   The courthouse is probably closed by now, so maybe tomorrow.

    I still think he’d rather check himself into a hospital for treatment.

  82. 82.

    Subsole

     

     

    @trollhattan: I dunno. I did it fine.

     

    Oh fuck. The little shitweasel’s going to materialize in my bathroom mirror, Candyman style, Isn’t he?

  84. 84.

    Jeffa

    I’ll be the first to contribute to a Go Fund Me account to pay for his escape to Putin’s arms.

  85. 85.

    NutmegAgain

    A-men!!  Just throw the fucker in some remote prison, run the trials in absentia, then throw away the key. If I never hear his greasy sneer or see his sickening orange visage again, again it won’t be too soon.

  87. 87.

    louc

    @rikyrah: The headline is deceptive. The percs will be stripped from employees of the special taxing district that oversees government operations for Disney, the one DeSantis took from Walt.

    That means firefighters, cops, workers at public water and sewer plants, etc. Nonetheless, the kind of people DeSantis might not want to p*** off as voters.

  89. 89.

    Subsole

    @oldster:

    They know.

    They don’t care, because they’re not businessmen. They’re wannabe village tyrants. And the GOP appeals to that impulse in spades.

  90. 90.

    Suzanne

    @Betsy: Imma gain weight from all the celebratory treats. It’s like a damn holiday!

    Honestly, the best Christmas gift ever would be watching that piece of shit report to federal prison.

  91. 91.

    Mallard Filmore

    @Jeffro: 

    At this point, I can see him trying to incite violence against his various prosecutors from a suite in Saudi Arabia or Russia, easily.

    Until the spooks are confident that Trump does not have any more classified documents, the proper response to using his plane to skip the country is to scramble some Air Force jets.

  94. 94.

    Jeffro

    @Mallard Filmore: Until the spooks are confident that Trump does not have any more classified documents, the proper response to using his plane to skip the country is to scramble some Air Force jets.

    Ok I can’t top that.  And now I’m all tingly at the prospect!

    deep breaths…deep breaths…

  95. 95.

    Roger Moore

    @oldster:

    But it’s surprising how many heartland voters who are mid-size businessmen, how many car dealers and plumbing contractors, think that the Republican party is the pro-business party.

    I think there are a few reasons people still see the Republicans as the pro-business party.  They’re definitely the anti-tax, anti-regulation, and anti-labor party, and a lot of business people have been indoctrinated to see those as pro-business.  The Republicans also flatter their egos with the story of business person as bold, courageous, self-made people who do everything for themselves.

    I think the kerfuffle about Obama’s “you didn’t build that” comment are a great example of that point.  Obama’s point is definitely true- every business depends on government services to function- but a lot of business people rejected it because it goes against that self-image.  More generally, I think flattery is underrated as a tool in the Republican rhetorical toolkit.  There are a lot of people who love the Republicans because the Republicans tell them what they want to hear, especially about themselves.

  96. 96.

    Tony Jay

    @topclimber:

    “The Winter of 1811 was particularly harsh and brought a kind of chill armistice to the War’s various fronts. From the mountains of Spain to the vast marshlands of the Russian border, armies stamped their feet and blew on their hands and waited, some anxiously, some eagerly, for the Spring thaw. But when it came, bringing with it the first appearance on the battlefield of Amos Cockburne’s revolutionary ‘Fuck Musket’, War – that eternal companion of European politics – would never be the same again.”

    From “Bonaparte, Bullets & Buggery: How A Gun Fucked The World” by Professor Nigel Funge-Bailey, Oxford Press

  97. 97.

    smith

    @Mallard Filmore: Since there appear to be 35 boxes still missing from the ones known to have been in the MAL storage, I think they would act as if he does have classified information.

  98. 98.

    BeautifulPlumage

    *********** Disney Correction ***********

    It’s not Disney employees, it’s the “governing district employees”. The claim is that it bribes government employees.

    And louc at 86 got there before me

  102. 102.

    eclare

    And the fucking voters he rode in on!  Enough with the FTFNYT, I do not want to hear another drop til they try to figure us out.  Oh, never, is that the courtesy phone?

  103. 103.

    piratedan

    okay….. I’m going to be THAT guy, I’m not against DJT and his Administration being in the news 24/7.    What I am tired of is how the focus is skewed.  His entire administration was a fucking unabashed power grab of turning governmental process into personal fiefdoms.  I mean EVERYTHING… from the goddamn Postal Service to the Bureau of Indian Affairs to FEMA and I fear that we’ve not uncovered everything that was done yet.

    I wish there was more focus not on the mere fact that he was committing crimes, but that he was engaged to overthrow the United States and he had a whole lotta help and that part of the story is still untold and no one dares to even speculate on where those threads go……  kinda funny considering we lived thru Benghazi and HRC’s e-mails with speculations abound and here’, it’s so nice and tightly focused as if we solve for this one person and all of the potential problems go away.

  104. 104.

    misterpuff

    @Suzanne:
    In Russ-i-a did Vladimir
    A suitely Golden Nome decree:
    Where Trump, the sacked POTUS, ran
    Though lawyers extradict the man
       Safe for eternity.
    (But no catsup!)

  105. 105.

    Alison Rose

    UPDATE: In his motion for an emergency stay of the Fulton County prosecution, Jeff CLARK says he wants to avoid
    “the choice of making rushed travel arrangements to fly into Atlanta or instead risking being labeled a fugitive”

    He wants a decision by 5pmhttps://t.co/vw9cwXJzDg pic.twitter.com/sEzoG8TYpI
    — Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 22, 2023

    Looks like an astounding sense of entitlement. Instead there should always be equal justice for all. https://t.co/mcjx4NjGZ5
    — Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) August 22, 2023

    As the Judge I clerked for once cooly remarked to a like defendant: “I am so sorry this criminal case is inconveniencing you.” https://t.co/xx0wgriO9Y
    — Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads)🌻 (@AWeissmann_) August 22, 2023

  108. 108.

    Jeffro

    Btw if y’all need a laugh, Marc “the hack’s hack” Thiessen has up a unintentionally hysterically funny piece that SHOULD be entitled, “If Trump weren’t Trump, everything would be fine”

    I’m not kidding,  Here’s the piece and here’s MT’s 5-point summary:

    -trump should have just conceded, lost graciously, and attended Biden’s inaugural

    -trump should have immediately pivoted to help the GOP win the GA special elections for Senate instead of sabotaging them

    -trump should have just given the documents back and definitely should NOT have deleted the security cam footage

    -instead of spending 3 years claiming that 2020 was “rigged”, trump should have just kept heckling “Biden’s many failings”

    -instead of recruiting and then promoting weak-candidate trump lickspittles, trump should have gone all in on the strongest candidates everywhere and helped the blessed ‘Red Wave’ arrive in 2022

    L

    to the

    OL

    And the big wrap-up?

    Do we need to clean house in the Justice Department? Absolutely. But Republicans can’t do that if Biden wins a second term. Right now, 63 percent of Americans say they won’t vote for Trump in 2024, including a 53 percent majority who say they “definitely” won’t vote for him, an AP-NORC poll found last week. That would leave in charge at the Justice Department the same people who went after Trump while trying to give Hunter Biden a pass.

    In other words, if GOP voters really want to rally around Trump, the best way to do so is to choose another nominee — someone who can beat Biden, pardon Trump and take on the administrative state.

    If Republicans nominate Trump, he will likely lose — and go to jail.

  110. 110.

    Montanareddog

    @Tony Jay: Oh, the French definitely have their own peculiarities in their concept of the British.

    Eating lunch with some French colleagues many years ago, a minor dispute arose between two of them over who owed what. One of them said of the the other “Tu es avare comme un Ecossais d’Angleterre”.

    I was laughing too much at the non-sequitur to be able to explain why it was so funny.

  111. 111.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    @Betty Cracker:

    Sancerre? DAY-UM girl, you got good taste. I think the last Sancerre I bought was nearly $40.  Mighty tasty, too!

  112. 112.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @Betty Cracker: he’s finally run into some no nonsense black women judges who are not buying his bs, Thank goddess! I am sick of all the special treatment he gets from everyone else.

  113. 113.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m thinking a nice Shiraz or Pinotage with Chèvre and followed up with sliced tenderloin roast, fresh horseradish, broccolini and fingerling potatoes for the Trump walk.

  115. 115.

    Tony Jay

    @Montanareddog:

    My French is appalling, is that “You’re like a Scotsman in England”? 😂

    I love going around Europe and just watching how people live their lives. Everything is just like here… except when it’s absolutely not and that old truism about the past and how they do things differently there comes to mind.

  117. 117.

    Ken

    @Scout211:

    It’s something Elon wants. They were running it by advertisers, who didn’t like it

    Tell me you’ve never run a company that made a profit except through government subsidies, without telling me that you’ve never run a company that made a profit except through government subsidies.

  118. 118.

    Montanareddog

    @Baud:

    He probably went to the Four Seasons County Courthouse by mistake.

     
    I suspect there is no Four Seasons County Courthouse. But I am damn sure there is a courthouse in Tbilisi which might explain why he is having difficulties finding a lawyer licensed to practise there.

  119. 119.

    Montanareddog

    @Tony Jay: You are as tight as a Scotsman from England is the closest translation.

     

    ETA: like many English politicians and journalists, few French people have any understanding of the difference between England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom.

  120. 120.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @LAO: Wow. Strikes me as a big deal, and I’d guess that first lawyer is in for some heat?

    I’ll admit if I could pick I’d make this happen in the J-6 case, but I try not to make the perfect the enemy of the good.

  123. 123.

    Dan B

    @LAO: That witness switching testimony after he ditched the Trump attorney is delicious.  The guy was in charge of security cameras at MAL.  Tampered with evidence, sweet!

  124. 124.

    delphinium

    @Suzanne: ​</p

    Trader Joe’s has this white Stilton with apricots…

    That sounds delish! Will have to look for that next time I’m at TJ’s; have only had the Stilton with cranberries.

  126. 126.

    Miss Bianca

    @Old School: OMG. He just can’t NOT telegraph his plans, can he?

    I mean, if you can call dignify what goes through his combo of lizard brain and squirrel attention span as “plans”, that is.

  129. 129.

    Ken

    @Alison Rose:

    Andrew Weissmann:  As the Judge I clerked for once cooly remarked to a like defendant: “I am so sorry this criminal case is inconveniencing you.”

    “To spare you further inconvenience, I have arranged for you to be housed in a location quite near the courthouse for the duration of the trial, and provided with transport to and from that location each day. And before you ask, because you’re in contempt of court — and before you ask again, because I say so.”

  130. 130.

    CliosFanBoy

    @satby:
      Yeah, I tend to rely on the British press. I know Tony J. will be horrified, but compared to the US press, the British press* is wonderful. When my wife and I traveled to England in 2014 for a conference we raved about how great the trains were. Some British friends were like “are you kidding? They suck now!” But we were comparing them to the American rail system. As much as I like taking Amtrak from DC to NYC, I’m embarrassed that it’s the best the US can do in terms of train travel.​
     

    *BBC, The Economist, The Guardian, The Independent.

  131. 131.

    Tony Jay

    @CliosFanBoy:

    They definitely weren’t the best, though I will say that on rewatch there’s the core of a good run that just never got to go anywhere. I suspect that when the tell-alls start to come out (after the current BBC leadership are kicked to the kerb) there’ll be a LOT of stories about executive meddling and threats to funding if they didn’t go the ‘edu drama for kids’ route.

    Really looking forward to Tennant’s new Doctor, though. The trailer gives hints that he’s definitely not playing 14 as 10 redux.

  132. 132.

    Ken

    @Jeffro: Marc “the hack’s hack” Thiessen has up a unintentionally hysterically funny piece that SHOULD be entitled, “If Trump weren’t Trump, everything would be fine”

    Didn’t we have one of these just last week? I distinctly remember snarking that the author might as well have had Trump swear vows of lifetime poverty, silence, and humble service — it was no more ridiculously fantastic than the rest of his “if only Trump had done this” ideas.

    It does make me wonder who’s the target audience for these pieces.

  133. 133.

    Scout211

    Politico  link (sorry)

    Washington D.C. Attorney General Brian Schwalb is investigating judicial activist Leonard Leo and his network of nonprofit groups, according to a person with direct knowledge of the probe.

    The scope of the investigation is unclear. But it comes after POLITICO reported in March that one of Leo’s nonprofits — registered as a charity — paid his for-profit company tens of millions of dollars in the two years since he joined the company. A few weeks later, a progressive watchdog group filed a complaint with the D.C. attorney general and the IRS requesting a probe into what services were provided and whether Leo was in violation of laws against using charities for personal enrichment.

    . . .

    The Leo-aligned nonprofit The 85 Fund — which is registered as a tax-exempt charity — paid tens of millions of dollars to a public relations firm in Virginia which he co-chairs in the two years since he joined the firm, known as CRC Advisors.

    The watchdog complaint alleges the total amount of money that flowed from Leo-aligned nonprofits to his for-profit firms was $73 million over six years beginning in 2016.

    “There are questions as to whether Leo-affiliated nonprofits have diverted substantial portions of their income and assets, directly or indirectly, to the personal benefit of Leonard Leo,” read the Campaign for Accountability’s complaint.

  135. 135.

    CliosFanBoy

    @Tony Jay:

      I am looking forward to the new run. I loved Peter Capaldi but he had some BAD scripts. I’d watch the hell out of Jo Martin as the Doctor though!

  142. 142.

    Tony Jay

    @CliosFanBoy:

    Moffat is an amazing writer and made Capaldi’s grizzled NFLTG Doctor sing, but he can get up his own arse to an astonishingly limber degree. See especially the version of ‘Dracula’ he did with Mark Gattis.

  143. 143.

    Jeffro

    btw if some front-pager could post a link to Randy Rainbow’s “Don’t Arraign on His Parade” (seen on Twitter/X), it’s just unbelievable.

    Unbelievably funny.  =)

  144. 144.

    Miss Bianca

    @AxelFoley: You know what’s weird? I’ve been watching a lot of 80’s-90s TV shows on DVD (Due South and Northern Exposure, among ’em), and it’s kind of shocking to me how often Donald Trump comes up just in everyday script talk on TV shows of the day. I mean, the man has been a media figure For.Ever. This “media-Jesus-Antichrist-Baal” figure has been coming towards us for such a long, long time – it freaks me out when I think about it.

  146. 146.

    Jeffro

    @Ken: I think it’s meant to make the trump enablers feel better about their lack of character…they’re not that bad, you see: it was trump who insisted on being trump.

    again and again and again

    despite the warnings of the dirty hippies

  149. 149.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Subsole: No idea, I am not a mind reader. What you say about masks is true though.

    Some people just revealed themselves to be assholes and some are going along to get along while some others are genuinely lost in what seems like a mass hypnosis event.

  156. 156.

    Alison Rose

    @Miss Bianca: Oh man, I loved Northern Exposure so much. I remember it made me jealous of my friend who grew up in Alaska and moved to my town in California about halfway through the show’s original run. I also remember having a crush on the actor who played Ed.

  158. 158.

    Tony Jay

    @CliosFanBoy:

    I enjoyed parts of episode one as a Hammer Horror style reinterpretation of the start of the novel, complete with a very different fate for one major character, and episode two was an interesting ‘lost scenes from the novel’ take on the Demeter through a sort of Horror Express lens, but episode three, nope.

    Basically, they weren’t Dracula, they were reimaginings of the Hammer Horror takes in the story, and very, very, very self indulgent.

    Claes Bang, though. When he wasn’t playing Vlad Bond, he was a cracking Dracula. Such potential!

  160. 160.

    Tony Jay

    @CliosFanBoy:

    Moffat loved Clara. She was his Rose Tyler, and basically an opposite sex Marty Sue who became the Doctor’s equal, somehow, weirdly, complete with TARDIS and a companion of her own. Bill seemed to be his take on a ‘generic’ companion, one who he didn’t have many ideas for and who had to be shuffled off sharpish so that Chibnall could have a clear run at his own shambles of an era.

  161. 161.

    Origuy

    I’m surprised that Trump has not had to surrender his passport. His private 757 does not have the range to get to Russia without refueling; the Trump Aviation website says that it has a 3,000 mile range, which isn’t enough to get from New York even to Kaliningrad, let alone Moscow. That may be an underestimate, though, since Boeing says it’s around 4,400 miles. Those gold toilets may add a lot of weight, though. If Trump has to stop short of Russia, the government there might not let him take off.

  162. 162.

    Brachiator

    @Jeffro:

     “If Trump weren’t Trump, everything would be fine”

    This  is spot on. There is something weird about Trump. He keeps going that extra step too far because his ego demands it or something.

    And he treated the presidency as though it was a personal acquisition. Some people noticed this, but criticism was slapped down while Trump covered himself with the deference given to a sitting president.

    But he couldn’t accept defeat. And he insisted on hanging onto stuff as though they were trophies he could display. And he continued to act as though he was the Big Man in charge.

    So much twisted psychological issues. And unfortunately we still have to watch him thrash about until he might be brought down for his crimes.

    Nixon. Trump. DeSantis. It’s odd how the GOP attracts these little monsters.

  163. 163.

    Brachiator

    @Tony Jay:

    Moffat loved Clara. She was his Rose Tyler, and basically an opposite sex Marty Sue who became the Doctor’s equal, somehow

    And River Song was also the Doctor’s equal. Maybe even his superior.

  168. 168.

    wjca

    @Old School:

    Bad news for all of you hoping Trump will decamp to Russia or Saudi Arabia.  They have as much loyalty to the no longer useful as he does.

    If he flees, he can’t get elected.  Which is to say, he no longer has any use to them.  So they’ll be totally uninterested is sheltering him.  Especially if, as seems likely, his vast fortune turns out to be an illusion, too.

  169. 169.

    TS

    @Brachiator:

    Nixon. Trump. DeSantis. It’s odd how the GOP attracts these little monsters.

    Nixon went away, DeSantis will as well. Trump wants to revenge each and every last person who dared to be anything but a cult member.  Even if the SCOTUS does not save him from himself he will still be there screaming from the rafters.

  170. 170.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    “If he gets on a plane to allegedly fly to Georgia…”

     

    Send him to the *other* Georgia.

    The one that’s closer to his BFF Putin.

  182. 182.

    patrick II

    People can be mean in personal relationships but generous in the big picture. Bill Gates was a notorious asshole as a boss but now has given billions to charity in useful ways. Other people are very decent in person but don’t see the big picture. George Bush senior once saw a woman begging on the street and was concerned that no one would help her — he was the governor of Texas at the time.
    Ron DeSantis however is a total asshole 24 hours a day in both personal relationships and in the big picture.

  183. 183.

    Tehanu

    There have been several letters in the L.A. Times lately complaining about the number of times they print his picture in every article about him. I wrote one too, though it didn’t get published. As it is I blot out his nasty, sneering, sour, angry face with (what else?) a Sharpie every time. And of course I’m not just sick of seeing his picture; I’m sick of him and his ignorant, bigoted, greedy supporters. Haven’t spoken to my college roommate for more than a year since she told me how much “better” the economy was during his term.

  184. 184.

    Burnspbesq

    @MattF:

    Either Russia or KSA would welcome him, I’d guess.

    The Saudi criminal “justice” system would make it a hard no for a serial adulterer like Trump. If you can’t keep it in your pants, they’ll cut it off.

    I’ve said from the beginning that if he skips out, Dubai is his most likely destination; they’re experts in the kind of tawdry excess that Trump mistakes for style.

  185. 185.

    Ruckus

    @oldster:

    The funny thing is that a lot of the people you mention make their livings off of the customers in their area. And yet they want the rethuglican party people, who want nothing more than ALL the money and strict control over all the people that support them till they find out that they are as much the victims as the correct side of the aisle. It always comes a day late and a few million short.

  186. 186.

    Ruckus

    @Subsole:

    You’d think they’d get an omelet out of it, at least.

    They screwed that up as well. Along with everything else they touch. Or even come close to.

  188. 188.

    Avalon

    Yes I am. It’s stressing me out to hear and read in the news the bs that he might be the candidate again. As far as I’m concerned he should be banned from politics completely.

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