Why on earth do we have such a large motorcade for a twice impeached, four time indicted criminal private citizen? Wtf is this? #TrumpArraignment #TrumpMugShot pic.twitter.com/BdIhJ0niRL
— WTFUSAš (@dudeonthebay) August 24, 2023
Hundreds of crows just flew overhead in the direction of Fulton County.
That's not weirdly Stephen King is it? pic.twitter.com/oplJbItAgu
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) August 24, 2023
Trump probably thinks about this way pic.twitter.com/FjLDPu2Uqh
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 24, 2023
This is Joel from Woodstock, a former Republican who came to the Fulton County Jail this morning to deliver a message:
āI want to see the sociopath who tried to steal my vote in 2020 go to prison.ā pic.twitter.com/B3auIp72Ug
— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) August 24, 2023
Point: Even if he could afford it, Trump never wants to invest his own money in his crimes or his legal defense. He always expects someone else to foot the bill.
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) August 24, 2023
ā¦And now he has to pay for his crime! #TrumpArraignment #LockHimUp pic.twitter.com/0By3h3DSah
— āVeteran Cosmic Rockerāāāš¼š«šø ā®ļøšāØš²š½šŗšø (@betosando) August 24, 2023
War for Ukraine Day 547: Ukrainian Independence Day
Scout211
Great array of Tweets, AL!
The Deering cartoon at the top was *chefās kiss*!
Quinerly
Frist?
Alison Rose
Will his mugshot be his fake tough boy face or a smarmy grin?
Steve in the ATL
@Quinerly: please donāt do that.
Old Dan and Little Ann
I’m a bit sad all the PBO and Hillary haters are no longer around on my book of faces.Ā They all defriended or blocked me. They spent 6+ years fluffing trump and now it’s all just…..crickets.
JPL
Well trump must be proud cuz this is OJ levels of interest.
J. Arthur Crank (fka Jerzy Russian)
OK, that last cartoon is really good.
hedgehog the occasional commenter
Eating popcorn and having an adult beverage. Ā Mwa ha ha.
Quinerly
@Steve in the ATL: it was my frist. Usually days behind on threads and mostly don’t read or comment.
Ishiyama
Bail Bondsmen have their own ways of keeping their clients from skipping out …
Jeffro
Lawrence OāDonnell going DEEP on the psychology thing just now: āDonald trump just couldnāt handle the thing that all adults – all 12-year-olds – have to face at some point, deal with, and move on: coming in second.ā
JPL
Local news talking about he historic moment.
MisterForkbeard
Trump self-reported himself as 6’3″ and 215 lbs.
That’s so far out of the realm of possibility I don’t know what to do with it. Wouldn’t it be fun if they nailed him for some kind of “lying to the court” on that alone?
bbleh
@JPL: in all sincerity, I would agree. Ā It’s a serious pathology. Ā And Exhibit B is this 6-3, 215 thing.
LAO
6ā3ā and 215 lbs, what a goddamn delusional loser. I ask rhetorically (cause I know heās a racist bully) what do his supporters see in him?
smith
I learned something that I hadn’t really caught before from listening to the talking heads just now is that when a defendant in GA files for a speedy trial, it has to take place within 2 court terms of the time the request is filed. If it doesn’t begin within that time frame, the charges against the defendant are automatically dropped. In the case of Chesebro, that would mean his trial has to start by early Nov.
When Fani Willlis said on indictment day that she was ready to go to trial right away, I suspect she was prepared for the eventuality of a defendant filing for a speedy trial under this law, and I bet she really is ready.
Cameron
I wonder how soon he’ll get around to making a public statement.
Jeffro
@Cameron: looks like heās about to hold a presser right there on the tarmac before leaving.
Jackie
So now that TIFGās been booked, when does he and his codefendants report to court to face Judge McAfee for further instructions?
Alison Rose
There’s a big ass light on the tarmac and Rachel is saying it looks like he’ll be making remarks, but amazingly, they’re not going to air them live. I’m sure they’ll still show them, but at least there’s that.
Quinerly
@Old Dan and Little Ann:Ā I never had any of those. Have one FB friend in Arkansas who has an insane son who lives in Hawaii. The son is always posting on his liberal dad’s page. Crazy shit. The son is convinced there is going to be a Civil War with hand to hand combat in all the cities. Rural people are going to invade the cities. The son is really excited about it. It’s all so bizarre since the son lives in Hawaii.
HumboldtBlue
@Quinerly: @Steve in the ATL:
Don’t listen to Steve, he’s a lawyer and a joyless curmudgeon who thinks pre-dream Scrooge is the good guy and the Child Snatcher from Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang was a heroic figure.
Alison Rose
@Jeffro: He’s not wrong. The point too about it’s not just that he doesn’t think he should ever lose, he thinks he shouldn’t even have to compete for anything. Such a fucking toddler.
JWR
From 11Alive.com:
Sure Lurkalot
Did we really need to see hours of the front of the courthouse, the flight pattern, airport arrival, every second of the ridiculous motorcade there and back, 3/4 or full screen with the rest of the screen alternating MSNBCās all stars? Itās truly theater of the absurd.
NWO Joe
@MisterForkbeard:
I figured that would happen. They do not have height or weight measuring equipment in any jail I have ever seen, so they would just ask him for height and weight.
What I want is a mug shot. I will print and frame that one – should have been done something like 40 years ago.
Immanentize
@Cameron: “public” by which you mean a xitty truthy exposition?
Alison Rose
@JWR: I wonder if TIFG knew this and that’s why he set his surrender time for later? Thinking somehow if it doesn’t come out till the next day, people won’t care. Who knows.
JPL
ha Local news just mentioned that trump’s bloviating about election integrity was not his role as president .
UncleEbeneezer
@smith: Yes. Ā Karen Friedman Agnifilo did aMeidasTouch video on it, on YouTube. Ā The deadline would be roughly by the end of the year
JWR
@Cameron:
He just did, and all he said was that he had every right to challenge the election and blah blah blah.
sdhays
@JWR: I want that mugshot to be his White House portrait (if we must have one).
delphinium
@MisterForkbeard: Nah, that is just his aspirational height and weight.
Citizen Scientist
Sitting in a bar on a work trip and the reactions here have ranged from ā oh is that happening here?ā (Iām not in Georgia) to āthat guy is King Turd of the Sh!t family.ā š
WereBear
@Ishiyama: Please let it be Dog the Bounty Hunter. Or someone like him.
mrmoshpotato
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
WEAK. SAD. POOP.
Anonymous At Work
Would any Atlanta drivers notice the traffic disruption?Ā Really?
Lends itself to plenty of jokes about the reaction of Jersey drivers, Massholes, Florida drivers, etc.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Sure Lurkalot: Itās supposed to be entertainment, not news? Or maybe there are zero other news stories to report on today.
//
Cameron
@Immanentize: Yeah.Ā I have a feeling he’ll be even more unhinged than usual.
Quinerly
@HumboldtBlue:
I know all about Steve. I’m an early retired atty myself. Put in my 35 years in St. Louis. Steve remembers my old firm from our representation years and years ago….I think old SW Bell Yellow Pages cases. He made the connection a few years back in a thread. I think I was trying to put together a BJ meet up at one point at McGurk’s in my old neighborhood in St. Louis. Steve can jump in and refresh my memory/correct me.
Delk
His hamberder clogged colon weighs 215.
mrmoshpotato
@hedgehog the occasional commenter:
I’d go shopping for a steak if it wasn’t so damn hot outside.
sdhays
@smith: It’s almost like she knows Georgia law!
But seriously, people were wondering why it was taking so long, and basically needing to be ready to go right away because of a law like is a pretty good reason to make sure all the i’s are dotted and t’s are crossed before handing out indictments.
Odie Hugh Manatee
Why does this fucker need a motorcade everywhere he goes? So he feels and looks important, that’s all. It’s all part of his grand illusion that he feeds the rubes and our presstitutes. He’s a fucking lousy salesman who pimps his ass to stupid people who buy into associating with him, which America seems to have too many of.
He’s a pimp who sells his ass to asses.
WereBear
@sdhays: I don’t mind the wait when everything has obviously been worked on very hard.
Quinerly
@Delk:
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My inner 12 yo boy is giggling.
HumboldtBlue
@Quinerly:
Steve will knock an ice cream cone from a little kid’s hand just for the laughs. You can be frist whenever and wherever you like because you’ll always be frist in our eyes.
Well, not mine, but someone here will have eyes for you being frist.
Also, Trump’s statement was more “they stole mah ‘lecshun!”
And whoever created this Trump cronies mugshot meme deserves a medal.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@NWO Joe: “What I want is a mug shot. I will print and frame that one…”
Put it in a closet you infrequently open.
Jackie
No way in hell did the Tuckems/TIFG interview come even close to 12.8 MILLION viewers!š š
I donāt have a habit of rooting for FAUX News, but this was the exception! This will piss TIFG OFF!š¤šš¤£š
āDuring the 2016 race for the White House, then-candidate Donald Trump was responsible for making the Republican primary debates must-watch television events,ā the Los Angeles Times reports.ā
āBut even without Trump onstage, Fox News was able to attract the largest cable TV audience for a non-sports program so far this year with its Wednesday showdown between the candidates for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.ā
āAn average of 12.8 million viewers watched the event telecast from Fiserv Forum in Milwaukeeā¦ The TV audience was larger than what any Republican presidential primary debate drew during the 2012 campaign season, four years before Trump emerged as the main attraction. It also surpassed audience of 12.5 million for Fox Newsā January 2016 primary debate held in Iowa, which Trump skipped as well.ā
Quinerly
@HumboldtBlue:
Poetry.š
mrmoshpotato
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Answered your own question. :)
Nominated!
sdhays
@JWR: It’s always so weird that he says his calls are “perfect”, not “perfectly fine” or “perfectly reasonable”. WTF is “perfection” in a phone call with the Ukrainian President or state elected officials?
To me, if a call was “perfect”, the things discussed would be resolved to my satisfaction, but that’s not the case with either of these calls. The only thing that sort of makes sense is that they were “perfect” in that he made his meaning clear without actually saying it. But I actually just think he doesn’t English very well. Perhaps he actually is only 215lbs because everyone is overestimating the weight of his bloated noggin.
waspuppet
@LAO: Iāve said it before and Iāll say it againāI would never make fun of how God made someone look, but the fact that Donald Trump puts in time and effort to look like that, and looks at that in the mirror and says āYeah thatās good I will knowingly go out in public now,ā is a sign that he does not/cannot perceive the reality of the world around him. Which is another of the many things about him that you donāt want in a president.
And we donāt talk about it enough.
MagdaInBlack
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Dartboard.
mrmoshpotato
@Delk: Yup.
Hope your AC is working. š„µ
Jackie
@sdhays: I was thinking that the other day!
Unfortunately, we have a classy President, who might secretly want to do so, wonāt. Iāll settle for a blank space where his portrait SHOULD BE HANGING, with an explanation that the WH doesnāt display portraits of imprisoned former presidents. OR a portrait of him behind bars would be acceptable š
mrmoshpotato
@MagdaInBlack:
Disagree.Ā You’d still have to look at Dump’s fat, orange, Kremlin-humping, disgusting, fascist face.
MagdaInBlack
@mrmoshpotato: Cat box liner?
mrmoshpotato
@Jackie:
See my comment at 57.
Jackie
@mrmoshpotato: Pin the tail on the donkey? Youād be blindfolded.
NWO Joe
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
I got plans. Bottom of a cat box. Maybe under the house in the floor joists (rental house that just got sold out from under me) so the new owner can run into it when he is crawling around under there. Inside door of the Port a San at the nearby roadside rest stop.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@sdhays: Itās just his criminal mind.
A mob bossās āperfectā phone call would get the point across without crossing any legal boundaries.
TFG thinks heās an expert criminal, and untouchable. I guess weāll see about thatā¦
Delk
@mrmoshpotato: we had to replace the ac two years ago. Itās nice and cool here. š„¶
Alison Rose
@NWO Joe: Paint it onto the bottoms of urinals.
Joseph Patrick Lurker
Trump’s mugshot sucks bigly.
Quinerly
https://www.salon.com/2023/08/24/trump-is-in-the-final-stage-of-leadership-fulton-county-arrest-elevates-his-maga-martyrdom/
H.E.Wolf
@Jackie:Ā ā
There’s precedent, of a sort.
A few decades ago, some clever dick sold jail-cell envelopes so that people could put the Nixon commemorative postage stamp “behind bars”. https://www.ebay.com/itm/323603905083
prostratedragon
@waspuppet:Ā This where I came in. Add to that the rich punk smirk that he carried around 50 years ago and you get a strong challenge to my attempts not to judge a book by its cover.
David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch
@Quinerly: Well, there are certain sections of New York that I wouldn’t advise them to invade.
bbleh
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: without provably crossing any legal boundaries. Ā It’s one reason (in addition to his reading difficulty) that he doesn’t use email, doesn’t text, and is obsessive about destroying certain papers.
Thinking maybe he overestimated how careful he was being in this case (or these cases). Ā Or simply was out of his depth &/or became intoxicated with power (and perhaps a touch of dementia).
Origuy
I posted this on the thread before last, which is dead.
Sure Lurkalot
@waspuppet:
Kim Guilfoyle would like a word.
Quinerly
@Delk:
My “new” house here in NM has minisplits. There are 7. I’m a true convert. I have been basically just cooling my bedroom unless I have guests. Electric bills have been under $60 a month here in the “High Desert”….unusually hot summer and no rain. I easily had $300 plus a month electric bills in my old 1880’s St. Louis house with inefficient ductwork and retrofitted layout. Minisplits rule!
Mike in NC
Our grandchildren will have to memorize Fat Bastard’s most profound utterances the same way we had to memorize the Gettysburg Address in grade school.
“When you’re a celebrity you can just grab women by the p****y!”
“I just need you to find me 11 thousand votes.”
Etc.
NWO Joe
@Alison Rose:
I guess I could laminate a few. Make them pocket size so they can be smuggled in the bathroom easily. This is giving me ideas, lol
MagdaInBlack
@mrmoshpotato: P.S. There are some big dark clouds out here, we are about to get some relief.
JWR
@Alison Rose:
Heh. Like the episode of Leave It To Beaver, where the Beav breaks a window and doesn’t want to tell anyone about it and Wally concurs, saying he guesses that even a busted window doesn’t look so busted the next day. Or something crazy like that.
Alison Rose
MUGSHOT LOLOLOL
Alison Rose
HE WENT WITH LITTLE TOUGH BOY FACE God what an absolute tool.
Quinerly
@Sure Lurkalot:
She’s ruined herself….in more ways than one. I remember when she was married to Gavin Newsom and was attractive.
Yarrow
@NWO Joe:
I can’t imagine doing that. Why would anyone want to look at him? If you must print it out at least put it in the bottom of the toilet so you can crap on it. Or use it to train puppies where to potty.
Scout211
@Alison Rose: What?! Is that the actual, official mugshot?
He looks horrible. Ā Well more orange and more horrible than he typically does. Ā That scowl is just ugly-creepy.
ETA: And someone call his stylist, STAT. The eyebrows are in desperate need of a trim. Ā I canāt believe he posed that way.
NWO Joe
Mugshot. Everything i figured it would be:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-georgia-surrender-indictment-08-24-23/h_4f2ed97bfb6e6c9bd51e556c1ea0a6c0
Steeplejack
MSNBC is just now showing Trump’s mug shot. Christ, it looks Photoshopped—much better than any of the others.
Alison Rose
@Scout211: Yep, it sure is.
Quinerly
@Scout211:
Hope he strokes out tonight.
bbleh
Look how fierce he is! Ā How his hair gleams! What a hero! He’ll never stop fighting for us! š
Alison Rose
@Steeplejack: How does it look better?? I mean, it’s not intensely over-bright but he looks horrendous. He looks like he has fucking pinkeye, for one thing. His face looks like it was sculpted from clay by someone wearing oven mitts.
Immanentize
@sdhays: Just FYI, from my read (as backed up by the Judge’s order), November the 3 is the last day that a trial under the GA speedy trial law must commence.
Yarrow
OMG, that mugshot. It’s awful.
Cameron
Weird.Ā He looks kinda like an albino Klingon.
zhena gogolia
@Alison Rose: God he is so hideous.
jimmiraybob
@Quinerly:
One of my favorite pubs.
Alison Rose
LOLOL
zhena gogolia
@Alison Rose: 6’3″ 215 lbs is so ridiculous! He thinks he’s Channing Tatum.
Alison Rose
I don’t know if Maggie intended to make me laugh with this, but she sure did.
zhena gogolia
I mean, 6’3″ 215 lbs. is LEAN! How can he expect anyone to believe that???
I guess that’s immaterial.
Omnes Omnibus
@Alison Rose: You are on the same wavelength as Rude Pundit.Ā Be worried.
japa21
That is his Mussolini look.Ā For some reason he is a big fanĀ of Il Duce.
Immanentize
@bbleh: it seems that in fact, Trump does dm — text. A lot! That is what the dispute with Musk’s twitter was about. Getting Trumps old dms.
Alison Rose
@zhena gogolia: I’d put him at 6′ max. Obama is 6’2″ and Trump next to him is slightly less in the photos I recall. 215 is a bigger lie than the election one. Maybe’s he’s dyslexic and he meant 251.
WaterGirl
@Alison Rose: How long you do you think he practiced to get his mugshot just the way he wanted it?
Another Scott
@HumboldtBlue: It was created by Happy Toast.Ā He’s brilliant, and fame-stealing people on Twitter shouldn’t be stealing his stuff like that.
He’s on Mastodon and lots of the social media places.
(I support him on Patreon.)
Cheers,
Scott.
Frankensteinbeck
@Jackie:
He thinks he got 231 million viewers.
Seriously.
That is the number he claimed.
sab
@MisterForkbeard: They should give him an orange jumpsuit based on the size he says he is.
David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch
@NWO Joe:Ā ā
OMG! It’s hideous. The war criminals at Nuremberg had better mug shots.
zhena gogolia
He looks like a particularly belligerent patient in a nursing home. I’m sorry, but he does.
Jackie
@Alison Rose: Is that for real?!? His eyes are bloodshot and in an attempt to look ferocious, he looks like he forgot his little stumpy devil horns!
Obviously he wasnāt offered a retake! Heās gonna beĀ FURIOUS!!!
Baahahahah!!!
Alison Rose
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m sure we’re not the only people to notice the bloodshot eyes.
bbleh
@Alison Rose: so how many of his hangers-on got the message immediately and said no sir, you look better!
HinTN
@MisterForkbeard: I’m 6-1 and 220. There’s a metric shit-ton of us with this body shape and every fucking one of us will know that’s a god damned lie. For some small fraction that will be enough
ETA: Every vote matters!
zhena gogolia
@sab: Hahahaha! The zipper would break!
Alison Rose
@WaterGirl: At least a few days. I wouldn’t be surprised if he made someone take a bunch of photos and sent them around to people to help him choose. God what a pathetic little dork.
Immanentize
@Alison Rose: That is a fake. The real one hasn’t been released yet.
Quinerly
@jimmiraybob:Ā I miss it. I started going to it my second year in law school at Saint Louis University. It was 2 rooms back then. Owned by 2 personal injury attys. Great place to meet other attys and judges back in the day. Owner Nic Carter would go to Ireland to find musicians. Bring them back and set them up with a 5 week residency. I moved to the neighborhood in 1984 and was there until 2022. Lots of changes with McGurk’s and the neighborhood.
Sure Lurkalot
@Quinerly: Did you buy the house with them installed? I ask, because I sought a quote for our upper level (a 400 sf master bedroom suite) and it was $11,000. Twice as much a whole house a/c system!
Because of trees and tri-level style, the rest of the house is more than cool enough at 75-77 degree thermostat setting even during heatwaves, but the bedroom is not good for sleeping. Right now my solution is to retreat to a daybed in a freezing cold basement. Autumn, please come sooner!
Dorothy A. Winsor
@zhena gogolia: Here’s a bunch of pics of Trump standing next to Obama. Obama lists his height at 6’1.5. Trump is probably wearing lifts in his shoes too.
zhena gogolia
@Immanentize: Really? Why is Maggie Haberman commenting on it?
Alison Rose
@Immanentize: Well, it was aired on MSNBC after being sent to them, and NYT has it up too and notes it was released by the Fulton County officials. Why do you think it’s fake?
Quinerly
@zhena gogolia: you win the thread!
David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch
I knew his mug shot would be bad, but my gawd, it’s worst than anything I imagined
M31
I always thought Trump modeled his look on Mussolini, the strutting and the scowl and the puffed up chest.
Worked great for Mussolini, for a while anyway.
zhena gogolia
@Alison Rose: Yeah, the Times has it with this caption:
Immanentize
@zhena gogolia:
@Alison Rose:
When it first came out, there were very credible law twitter folks saying it was not real. I will look for those comments….Ā BRB
zhena gogolia
@M31: Let’s hope it all ends in a similar fashion.
Alison Rose
@zhena gogolia: Yep, WaPo also has the credits noting it was released by the sheriff’s office.
ETA there was a fake one going around that actually looks fairly similar, but it’s not the one on the news sites.
sdhays
@Jackie: He’s clearly been preparing for this photo in the mirror ever since the indictment came down.
Alison Rose
@Immanentize: I would be quite surprised if every major news organization ran it without verifying that it was legit.
JWR
@sdhays:
Goodness only knows WTF he means when he says “a perfect call”. Yeah, he called up Zelenskyy, attempted some extortion, then hung up the phone. What’s not perfect about the call is that Zelenskyy didn’t take the bait, and it’s all right there on tape, as all us Haterz point and laugh.
Ruckus
@Jeffro:
āDonald trump just couldnāt handle the thing that all adults ā all 12-year-olds ā have to face at some point, deal with, and move on: coming in second.ā
Well he spend the vast majority of his life coming in far behind that so he should have been used to it. Of course with his complete inability to actually behave in any way close to adult human but very close to petulant 4 yr old, in the body of a deformed and very ugly dinosaur one should not expect miracles….
Steeplejack
@Alison Rose:
Just the lighting, for one thing! Heās got dramatic contrastālight on his left side, shadow on his right. Compare that to the head-on blast lighting everyone else got.
The MAGAts will love that he looks angry and resolute.
David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch
@Mike in NC:Ā ā
man, woman, camera, tv
Old Dan and Little Ann
The twitter feed regarding the mug shot is comedy gold.Ā There’s one of Obama holding a camera next to it and another of Hillary and PBO cracking up about the 6’3″” 215 lbs lie.
Immanentize
@Immanentize: There remains uncertainty. Here is a thread:
The first one had wrong tie, etc….
https://spoutible.com/thread/15730977
Jackie
@Immanentize: They released the same photo on both MSNBC and CNN.
Mike in NC
@Steeplejack:Ā Ugly motherfucker didn’t wear his lapel pin! Why does Fat Bastard hate America?
HinTN
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Wins the internet for weeks! Well done.
Lapassionara
@Quinerly: we miss you in St Louis, Quinerly.
Immanentize
@Alison Rose: really? That is your standard for veracity?
Scout211
I knew that pose was familiar!
sdhays
@M31: I don’t think Trump has been physically capable of “strutting” for a long time. Did Mussolini shuffle?
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Alison Rose: Oh god, Iām getting triggered. When I was a federal employee that was the face staring out of the official photo any time I was unfortunate enough to walk past the chain of command photos. The adjective that always came to me was āconstipated.ā
Old School
The final Gotham mugshot.
Alison Rose
@Immanentize: Well, the one in that thread has the seal wiped out, but the one on TV and all news sites shows it like the others.
Quinerly
@Sure Lurkalot: they were here. Long story short is the house was built in 1993 with no AC. Radiant heat in the slate floors. There was a big class action suit against the manufacturer of the radiant flooring in many of the houses in Santa Fe built in that era… before I got here. As part of the settlement, the boilers had to be removed. Most people took the settlement money and installed minisplits for the heat….and AC. I think someone said they are running $6000 a piece now installed in SF. Way out of my league for sure. I love the AC part. I don’t think the heat is as efficient. Last winter was my first winter. I kept a pretty cold house. Have a kiva style fireplace. It heats great.
M31
@sdhays: lol the Trump strut/shuffle: puff out your chest then walk like a pigeon with its feet tied together
Jackie
@sdhays: I still say he forgot his billygoat horns. Heād have hooves if it was a full body shot.
Immanentize
Aric Toler is a Bellingcat adjacent. He is a super internet sleuth. The 8:05 pic may be original, leaked by a jail employee. We will soon find out.
Steeplejack
@Mike in NC:
Eh, it might be out of frame. Or maybe they don’t let you wear gang regalia in your mug shot.
jimmiraybob
@Quinerly:Ā ā
I probably set foot in the pub in the late 70s – early 80s. They still put on the music but on the weekend can be near impossible to get close enough to see. But they do have a rather expansive patio area to sip a pint. Or two.
NWO Joe
@Immanentize:
I was able to find the jail roster for Fulton County, which had the basic info. Those usually have the mug shot, but for some reason their page still does not. I have a feeling it was released to those they felt needed it for some reason.
Ruckus
@Delk:
I believe you.
But I really, really, really fucking didn’t need to see that.
Alison Rose
@Immanentize: Okay, so…we’re not supposed to trust every major news org over some law people on Twitter? Sure, maybe the Twitter people are right, but I think by now Fulton County would have put out a statement if the photo were fake, no?
Quinerly
@Lapassionara: I go through periods of missing my old life. Mostly missing what Soulard was 10 years ago. Covid Times changed everything for me. Come visit me in Santa Fe! I’m serious!
Mike in NC
@MisterForkbeard:Ā If they put him in an orange jumpsuit he couldn’t wear his infamous 2″ shoe lifts. Sad!
Immanentize
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I knew folks at the local EPA who put a large plant oddly in front of their official portrait. Not completely covering but enough to not make it obvious.
Scout211
CNN says it’s the official mugshot and also:
Quinerly
@jimmiraybob: all that elaborate patio was started around 1990-1991. I call it “The Garden of Children.”
zhena gogolia
@Alison Rose: I just got it in an e-mail from People, so it must be real!
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack: They’d love a picture of his full Depends. Who cares.
Shalimar
@Immanentize: Getting it right is their job. There is no excuse for making a mistake on this.Ā All national news organizations have reporters in direct contact with the sheriff’s office.
jimmiraybob
The mug shot should be tagged:
Inmate No. P01135809 & Guest TBA 2024
David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch
@Dorothy A. Winsor:Ā ā
there’s evidence that he wears 2 to 3 inch lifts in his shoes (link)
Lapassionara
@Quinerly: that would be great! I love Santa Fe.
Jeffro
@Scout211: should have just been inmate No. POS #1
Immanentize
This is the mug shot of Harrison Floyd. He Is one of the Black Folks for Trump dudes. It seems he is in custody without a bail agreement.
piratedan
Dear Mr. Trump,
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Ruckus
@M31:
At least till he got to hang around for a while.
jimmiraybob
@Quinerly:Ā ā
I mostly head to O’Connels Pub – close and not usually crowded. They’ve recently started adding music but I don’t think Irish.
Quinerly
@Lapassionara: I think we had each other emails at one time….when we did the meet up with a few others at McGurk’s? If not, or deleted…get mine from a front pager. Door is always open to St. Louis peeps. Plenty of room.
M31
lol all this mugshot real/not real talk distracted me from the important thing, that is
TRUMP IS INDICTED, ARRESTED, AND OUT ON BAIL
hahahahaha
enjoy your trial, loser
Immanentize
@Shalimar: If we are gonna get through 2024 considering all the deep and shallow fakes coming our way, I just suggest people wait. Often. And not take the first bus that comes along because everyone is trying to scoop everyone else.
Being cautious and skeptical will do us well.
Aluminum tubes anyone?
frosty
@Steve in the ATL:Ā āAfter people have been doing this for weeks you’re going to dump on Quinerly? C’mon, man!ā
Jeffro
@piratedan: such. win.
He’s going to slip before the weekend is out and just say/tweet/post/whatever that he should have just bumped off all his enemies like his buddy Vlad.
Lesson for the GOP: get a hold of your party, nimrods! Ā A deranged, corrupt game-show host should NOT have been able to waltz in and destroy y’all like this. Ā What would Abe Lincoln say?
LOL
Omnes Omnibus
@frosty: A man has his limits, and so does Steve in the WTF.
Quinerly
@jimmiraybob:
O’Connell’s was always great. I knew Jack Parker pretty well. Was really sad about his death. I’m so old that I remember Norah….and no tvs at O’Connell’s (and McGurk’s for that matter). Jack hung at McGurk’s back in the 1980’s and early 1990’s. His last wife years ago was actually a McGurk’s waitress.
Jackie
@M31: I just noticed his almost snout-like nose! No way did he get to approve this pic! One and done! š
But, he might be happy with the neck angle š¤
WaterGirl
@David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch: Even his shoes are creepy.
MisterForkbeard
@Scout211: It really does look like he tried to photoshop a promotional photo. The lighting is very different from the other mugshots, too. But if CNN says it’s real….
Quinerly
@Omnes Omnibus:
š
Immanentize
Well it must be real because Trump is already raising $$$ off the pic.
Trump on Trump
Lapassionara
@Quinerly: I still have the proof of life photos of that fun evening on my phone. It was great.
Shalimar
In new-to-me news, Donald Trump apparently transferred ownership of Mar-a-Lago to Don Jr. 3 weeks ago.Ā You can store a lot of coke in a house that big.
Baud
@Shalimar:
I hadn’t heard that either.
Omnes Omnibus
@Immanentize: Well actually, trump trying to make money off of something is no guarantee of authenticity.
David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch
@Jeffro: Dump has always been more of a number 2 than a number 1
Bill Arnold
@Immanentize:
Also, related, it is worth doing a reverse image search to see if an old matching image can be found. I often use tineye.com and there are a few others. Often people simply reuse old images. (This is a point in time observation.)
In this case, nope. (I do not know how much lag tineye has for new images.)
Quinerly
@Lapassionara: what year was that?
Immanentize
@Omnes Omnibus: And a man’s gotta know those limits.
I dislike the practice and I always worry it will bring back automatic “Hey” or “Wild” from one of our most eminence grise. Or is it eminence front?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Wicked Witch of the West shoes.
WaterGirl
@frosty:
Some find it cute to the do first / frist thing, others find it annoying and juvenile.
Steve isn’t dumping on Quinerly. Ā It’s not personal.
Baud
@Immanentize:
Wild.
Shalimar
@Immanentize: Sure. That is great advice.Ā The point here is that they didn’t scoop each other.Ā They all confirmed it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Immanentize:Ā ā
Who?
Immanentize
@Omnes Omnibus: tru dat, brother.
WaterGirl
@Shalimar:
Wow, if that’s true, it’s huge.
Scout211
@Immanentize:
This is the fake one.
It was widely circulated a few hours ago and debunked.
Jeffro
What’s that quote from Liz Cheney, again?
Immanentize
@Baud: perfect
Quinerly
@Baud:
Zillow saying property transferred on 8/4.
$422,000,000
WaterGirl
@Baud: Yes!
Immanentize
@Omnes Omnibus: He who says “Nevermore”
zhena gogolia
@Scout211: Haha, I wish that were the real one.
Omnes Omnibus
@Quinerly:Ā ā
No way that transfer survives in a criminal forfeiture action.
Steve in the ATL
@frosty: I dump on everyone I see doing it, even awesome people such as Quinerly! This place doesnāt need to be every shitty Internet forum in 2002.
@HumboldtBlue: bad day? Ā Do you need a hug? Ā Do you want to show us in the doll where you were touched?
Besides, that kid deserved itāhe was wearing a Yankees hat and a Dallas cowboys shirt!
@Omnes Omnibus: zing!
Jeffro
@David š āThe Establishmentāš Koch: but he’s the #1 number two, if you know what I mean?
LOL
Hey GOP, just run with Vivek – no need for any reflection or a time out or anything. Ā Just keep on chugging!
jimmiraybob
@Quinerly:Ā ā
Are there any comparable pubs in Santa Fe? Don’t know if I’ll ever get that way again but ya never know.
Shalimar
@Quinerly: How would Donald Trump, Jr. get $422 mil?
Immanentize
@Quinerly: Whoa. More laundering of foreign assets i assume. No way that property is worth that. This is what Tish James’ civil suit is about on NY.
Also, maybe we will get some federal action on the tax violations in NY some day
Sure Lurkalot
@Quinerly: Maybe someday Iāll seek another quote. Maybe there were supply chain issues last year. I live in Denver so the diurnal swing is usually helpful with windows open but the last 2 weeks it only gets down to the high 60ās for a couple hours.
I feel bad complaining because other BJers in the Midwest and south are suffering with absurd heat AND humidity at low altitude who would love a 70 degree evening.
Quinerly
@Shalimar: transferred to a corporation owned by Don Jr. I’m looking for links to verify. This all seems to be breaking with the booking and addresses given.
Quinerly
@Immanentize: this seems pretty big to me. My old areas of law. Transferring assets, etc…..
Dangerman
Good grief, that mug shot; if he lived next door with that scowl, Iām sleeping with my shot gun.
wjca
@Shalimar:
Why does this look like someone caching assets in preparation for filing for bankruptcy?
Immanentize
@Shalimar: Here is the perfectly legal tax scam — you sell your property to your kid(s) for x, but the sale requires them to pay over time. In short, you hold the mortgage for your child. Then, as time goes, if they pay you get to take the unpaid part as debt, not income. And if they dont pay and you “do pay” for them, that too is tax deductible and added onto the property loss/debt. There is some guy’s name attached to this which I don’t remember.
PS then you can forgive the debt upon your death, but they may have to pay taxes on part of that.
This is not tax advice.
Steve in the ATL
@Quinerly:Ā @Immanentize: yeah that number is even less real than 6ā3ā and 215 are.
Quinerly
@Sure Lurkalot:
I went to a new resident HOA meeting the other day. First one they had had even though I bought 12/2021. So many new residents coming from CA who bought houses here with no AC and were complaining. That’s where I was hearing that $6000 per unit figure.
Immanentize
@Quinerly: I am not a property or tax attorney. Do you recognize the transfer dodge I posted above?
w_seattle
Perhaps the mugshot shows a failed attempt to re-create Zoolander’s “blue steel”.
Bill Arnold
@MisterForkbeard:
It does. And it would be possible to have prepared it beforehand. (Which is to say, people will be speculating.) The The Guardian has a higher-res mugshot image where the sheriff’s logo in the upper left is clearer, but it could have been from earlier mugshots.
I expect more details will be available tomorrow.
Immanentize
@Steve in the ATL: ha! I am 6’3 and 220. And oh my god I am not that man. I could lose a few. Trump is Jabba.
Omnes Omnibus
@Immanentize: To me, it seems an awful lot like a fraudulent conveyance.
Ruckus
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
His ass may be the most valuable thing he actually owns, he has to treat it nice or it may leave him and that leaves a bag of crap I never want to see.
Mike in NC
Couldn’t help but notice that Sidney Powell’s mug shot resembled an alien trying to pass as human.
frosty
@WaterGirl:Ā ā
I missed the edit window to say that a few comments down I saw they knew each other. So it could be Steve’s usual snark – it didn’t sound like him.
Lapassionara
@Quinerly: My photos are dated June 27, 2019.
Immanentize
@Quinerly: I am just about to get all house heat pumps in my new old money pit. I decided against mini splits in favor of two zones of exchangers — one on the first floor from the basement and one on the second floor from the attic. Because the exterior temp gets below -20 sometimes, i need to get heat boosters for the two units for any heat to work when it is super cold. Even with rebates and incentives, because it is a total new install (there were no ducts in the house) i am looking at 50K. New mini splits are between 6 and 10 each now! (which is why I went with two units rather than a first floor unit and four upstairs mini splits).
Scout211
Besides every single news service reporting the mugshot photo as the official one, Snopes has now weighed in.
So there you have it, jackals.
Ruckus
@mrmoshpotato:
Well he’s incapable of operating a vehicle, like he’s pretty incapable of most anything else actual humans do so there’s that.
You have seen news reports of his driving a golf cart – no? You don’t want to be in the same state as him at any moment but I say 2 states away if he has the keys to any vehicle.
Immanentize
@Omnes Omnibus: I agree completely. I really need to find that tax podcast where I picked up this info….
Quinerly
@jimmiraybob:
Nothing like that out here. I knew what I was getting into as I had traveled here for years before moving. St. Louis has such a great live music scene and I was tied into it for many years through festivals, Blues Society, musician boyfriends, and Soulard’s Mardi Gras. I would say the best bars near me now are Cowgirl BarBQue, Tinys, Del Charro, and The Mine Shaft which is in Madrid, NM. Del Charro doesn’t have music but a nice, horseshoe shaped bar. I’m about 12 miles out of town on 3 acres. I have hopes that the new brew pub at the Lamy Train Depot will make it. George RR Martin is somewhat involved with it.Ā Also the old historic Legal Tender has reopened in Lamy near me. Great bar, Irish music on Sundays. It’s owned by Alan Affeldt and backers. He owns La Posada in Winslow and historic properties in Las Vegas, NEW MEXICO. Knows how to be successful.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: You make that sound like it’s a bad thing.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Well, it allows it to be reversed.
Alison Rose
@Shalimar: Turning tricks?
Quinerly
@Immanentize:
Your set up is like my old house.
I had just put in 2 new ACs and 1 new furnace in my old Victorian before I sold. Replaced 25 year old units. I had already replaced a furnace a few years prior. That house had been rehabbed in 1978 and ductwork put in then. Zoned for first floor and walk out basement on one set of units. Second and 3rd floor on the second set of units. No insulation in that house, plaster walls, 12 ft ceilings. Very inefficient.
tom
Did he mean 215 lbs or 215 kg?
prostratedragon
@Quinerly:
Yep.
Immanentize
@Quinerly: yes, i will be doing a lot of insulating. But what a cool old place this is. 1860s farm house. Breezy.
Quinerly
@Lapassionara:
And then the world changed…….
Frankensteinbeck
@Immanentize:
As reasonable a fear as that is, Iāve been hearing it for years and it never seems to happen. Ā An occasional easily debunked fake here and there from the fever swamps, but always low tech.
Omnes Omnibus
@tom: Aha!
Quinerly
@prostratedragon: that was one of the links I was getting. Looking for other outlets and better details.
JMWP-Smathers
Apparently Trump just posted again on Twitter tonight, what looks like an image of an MS Word doc, classy as always.
Immanentize
@Frankensteinbeck: Did President Biden nod off for a bit at the meeting in Maui? These things are friggin sticky, whether you personally pay attention long enough to figure out they were debunked. That simple low tech fake took days to be affirmatively proven wrong.
sab
@Immanentize: Somewhere at some point in that part they don’t pay is probably either a gift subject to gift tax you pay, or forgiveness of debt which is taxable income to the kid.
Quinerly
@Immanentize:
Sounds wonderful. Personally, I hit my limit on old houses. 2 1880’s inner city Victorians since 1988. My “new” house is 1992/1993….”modern” bathrooms and kitchen that I never have to do anything to.
Alison Rose
Okay, here’s the thing. I personally don’t give a shit what anyone weighs or how big they are and all that. Trump would be a sack of shit no matter what he looked like. But the lying makes it funny, and so I poked around. Cam Thomas, who currently plays for the Brooklyn Nets, is listed as 6’3″ and 210 pounds. Obviously, he has some muscle and all that, but like…ain’t no fucking way on this planet or any other that TIFG is only five pounds heavier than this dude.
Timill
@Shalimar: He went to Jared…
Dangerman
Actually, that look is the look of a Dude about to be served divorce papers. I wonder if I can get a line on it happening before next Friday.
Immanentize
@sab: There is the expert i needed! That you, Sab.
mrmoshpotato
@MagdaInBlack: How much litter are we dumping in this litter box? :)
Quinerly
Google:
“Zillow reports the property was sold on August 4, 2023. A quick search of the website SunBiz, however, reveals that the current owner of Mar A Lago is a company called Mar A Lago, Inc. The owner of the company, and its registered agent, is Donald Trump Jr., the ex-president’s oldest son.1 hour ago”
Gin & Tonic
@Frankensteinbeck: I think I’ve mentioned this, but somewhere on my bookshelves I have a book entitled: The Reconfigured Eye: Visual Truth in the Post-Photographic Era.
It was published in 1992.
sab
@Immanentize: I am not an expert and very rusty on this stuff.
Immanentize
@mrmoshpotato: My oldest brother had a Spiro Agnew dartboard with “Et tu, Spiro?” as the caption on the bottom. Ahhh, the 70s!
jimmiraybob
@Quinerly:Ā ā
When I lived in Phoenix I’d travel back and forth to STL and have stayed at the La Posada in Winslow (I have also stood on a corner….nothing happened).
Are you familiar with Joe’s Cafe (aka Joe’s Cafe Concerts aka Christman Studios on FB) in STL? They book a lot of good music including the Soulard Blues Band – very low key, intimate and the patio garden is wild.
It used to be a private club but now it’s opened up and a guy named John Parker books the music there and has started booking the bands at O’Connell’s. They also book the Polyphony Marimba band out of Sante Fe. You could probably make contact to see about sending some STL jazz and blues your way.
Immanentize
Ok peeps, it has once again been entertaining if not fun! Love to all.
Quinerly
@jimmiraybob:
Very familiar with Joe’s Cafe. Next time you are there say, “Hi!” to my buddy, Buzz, and tell him to get his plan straight with Lenny and make their road trip out here. We keep talking about it. Buzz tends bar at Joe’s
Just saw Polyphony Marimba at Beer Creek Brewery on highway 14 a few weeks back. Great show. Sent my videos and pics back to Buzzy
I have been spending Christmases with my dog at La Posada. Have our reservations for this year….The FDR Room….right on the tracks!
Jeffro
I think I have mentioned this before, but at times, trumpov has made me question my own long-held atheism. Ā He is such an utterly irredeemable figure, and is so good at manipulating his
suckersbasewhatever, to such horrible ends, that it just struck a chord in me from time to time.Seeing his mug shot…I don’t think I’ll be feeling that feeling any more. Ā He’s just a completely corrupt and deranged hype man who was enabled at every step of the way by equally corrupt people. Ā Corrupt humans – him included. Ā Nothing supernatural about it.
I wonder if it will hit the same way for some portion of the Rs. Ā Not that they’ll “see the light” or become Ds or anything, but it might remind them: this was just a person who knew how to play the game, and how to play the Republican Party, very, very well. Ā He got lucky once…and then, the second time around, instead of taking his loss graciously and retiring to his gazillion billions he supposedly had, he decided it’d be best to just, oh, overthrow the government and keep the grift going.
Just another crook. Ā Not the Devil. Ā Just another crook.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
There’s no way Trump is 215 lbs
dm
@Old School: of course. Iād wondered why there was no Joker in the earlier set. I should have known.
columbusqueen
@wjca: Because it is, but a bankruptcy judge could claw it back if he/she believes it to be fraudulent.
cain
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Because it costs the city money.
sab
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): We have an electronic barhroom scale that if you put it at just the particular angle on a particular bathroom floor tile it will knock 20 pounds off the weight it shows.
Maybe Trump has one just like it.
Shalimar
“NEVER SURRENDER” xeets the dumbass posting his own mugshot.
Kirk
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Of course not.
I’m 5’9″, weigh 250 bs, and I’m slimmer than he is.
jimmiraybob
@Quinerly:
I’m spending a couple of weeks in CO shortly but hope to have a relaxed night next week at Joe’s before I head out (Robert Nelson & Renaissance playing next week). I’ll pass the message to Buzz. That oughta be a hoot.
Kirk
@Jeffro: Honestly, i think of him as this universe’s Nehemiah Smith. Not because of hts alleged faith but because of the alleged faith of his followers. Just takes us having recognized the problem sooner and fighting back a little more effectively (and getting a couple of lucky breaks) to avoid that future history.
kalakal
That mugshot explains the motorcade.
Each eyebrow would require it’s own vehicle, plus 3 more for the constituent parts of the entity perched on his scalp – and has anyone seen its birth certificate, just asking? A further 2 for the patent wattle restraints and one for his corset. Add in a tanker of bronzer and a pressure operated spray gun, 1 for him, another for the prosthetic chin unit, and finally 3 loads of assorted pins, staples, clips and super economy sized containers of Elmers + a vehicle for the onsite assembly technicians and there you have it.
My god he’s ugly
columbusqueen
@columbusqueen: There’s also the huge issue of asset forfeiture after a RICO conviction. Anybody know what Georgia’s statute provides for? I suspect that’s what’s panicking Lil’ Donny big time. If Willis gets the conviction, she could pick him clean.
Quinerly
@jimmiraybob:
Buzz is a good guy. We have floated the possibility of him house and JoJo sitting for an extended period of time for me to take off on some non doggie friendly travel.
Geminid
@kalakal: His supporters will probably say he looks defiant but I think Trump looks like a cornered rat.
My apologies to rats everywhere.
cain
@Mike in NC: surprised he didn’t and it wasn’t upside down .. something only Trump or a right winger would get away it.
kalakal
@Geminid: It’s really odd. It’s obviously a deliberate pose, and he’s desperately trying to hide his sagging neck but he looks like he’s had a stroke. He’ll have spent hours in front of a mirror posing and this is what he thinks looks good?
cain
@Steve in the ATL:
You are one to talk with that delicious #4.
Kelly
That was Muhammad Ali in his prime.
Omnes Omnibus
@Kelly:Ā ā
Davante Adams is listed at 6′ 1″ 215.
prostratedragon
@Dangerman:
@Quinerly:
Aha, maybe that’s what the transfer is about.
prostratedragon
@kalakal:Ā šš My, but yes he is.
Origuy
@Immanentize:
People who watched the whole video say that he was praying and holding a rosary.
Uncle Cosmo
@Kirk: ??? Sure you don’t mean Nehemiah Scudder?
Timill
@Uncle Cosmo: Either that or Lorenzo Smythe…
Betsy
@zhena gogolia: Thank you for the belly laugh! Ā And with that, I can sleep well tonight.
The Lodger
@Shalimar: Question for the lawyers: what are the legal consequences of transferring ownership of a crime scene?
H.E.Wolf
@Timill:Ā ā
Hey now. Lorenzo Smythe was one of the good guys!* (Scudder, not so much.)
*though depending on your taste in protagonists, one might need to grade on a curve when it’s the RAH canon. :-)
Ruckus
@Alison Rose:
Maybeās heās dyslexic and he meant 251.
He’s lesdyslexic. That means he’s a neither. He’s just a blob of flabby shit with a crappy combover who can’t spell, speak, reason, be social, reasonable, in any way intelligent, personable, correct or even close. He’s shit in shoes with risers to make him look – about the same as he does without them.
Uncle Jeffy
@tom: That works out to about 474 lbs – sounds about right…..
The Lodger
@Kirk: Who’s Nehemiah Smith?
Ruckus
@Immanentize:
Trump is Jabba.
The Hutt or the rhino?
Cause I don’t think he’s got what it takes to be either, other than body mass…..
Ruckus
@kalakal:
My god heās ugly
I don’t think so. He’d have to move up quite a few steps to be just ugly.
He’s so bad he’s worse than fuglly.
Which stands for fully ugly.
He’s in a league of his own.
He’s barfugly.
Ruckus
@zhena gogolia:
I like your style!
Ruckus
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
The adjective that always came to me was āconstipated.ā
Well yes, he is full of shit. So you have the correct nice word. I’m slightly crude.