Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

Those who are easily outraged are easily manipulated.

Text STOP to opt out of updates on war plans.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

We need to vote them all out and restore sane Democratic government.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Every one of the “Roberts Six” lied to get on the court.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

… gradually, and then suddenly.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

Bark louder, little dog.

President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.

“In this country American means white. everybody else has to hyphenate.”

Usually wrong but never in doubt

They spent the last eight months firing professionals and replacing them with ideologues.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Republicans do not trust women.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

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  3. 3.

    patrick Ii

    DeSantis remembers what happened to Christie when he shook Obama’s hand after Sandy. To Republicans, it’s more important to pose, or not pose in this case, than to govern.

  4. 4.

    mrmoshpotato

    Too busy running away from 15 year olds?

    🎶The sky is red, I don’t understand,

    past midnight I still see the land.🎶

  7. 7.

    JWR

    ICYMI, Ramaswamy going all ramaladingdong as he explains the brutal Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Or not. Yeah, not.) A brief taste…

    Vivek Ramaswamy
    @VivekGRamaswamy 12h
    A Ukrainian state-affiliated company’s multimillion dollar bribe to the Biden family is a likely reason reason why President Biden is now otherwise inexplicably showering Ukraine with hundreds of billions of US taxpayer dollars. …
    Sep 1, 2023 · 4:53 PM UTC

    … and it goes on and on. Found over at Aaron Rupar’s place, where he’s got a good follow-up to Ding Dong on his Public Notice site.

  8. 8.

    Dangerman

    Let’s do a test; let’s have Trump meet with DeSantis. Bet he’d be humming a different tune for Donald.

  9. 9.

    Ascap_scab

    De Satan is a coward.

    But let’s also remember how Christie hugging Obama after Sandy was political death.

  12. 12.

    Jackie

    @Ascap_scab: Pudd’n Boots doesn’t need to hug the man, FGS!🤦🏼‍♀️

    The folks Biden meets with would probably prefer RDS not be there anyway. I hope Joe and Jill get a great reception and lots of good press!

  13. 13.

    Betty Cracker

    The super PAC that is illegally running the DeSantis 2024 campaign probably told him not to appear in the same camera frame as Biden, so he cancelled. Everything DeSantis does is about trying to win the GOP nomination; he and his taxpayer funded staff are laser focused on it. The people at Florida Politics uncovered a super PAC memo with talking points about how to spin the hurricane into positive campaign coverage, and sure enough, DeSantis has repeated the talking points on camera.

  14. 14.

    Cameron

    I think the President should show solidarity with the people of Florida by wearing some sassy white boots during his visit.

  19. 19.

    raven

    I made enough money to buy Miami

    “But I pissed it away so fast

    Never meant to last

    Never meant to last.”

  22. 22.

    sab

    Jimmy Buffet RIP. As an old I can say “What a shame. He was so young.” My dad just had his 99th birthday. Two of my husband’s siblings died in their mid-seventies. That seems so young to me.

    When I was twelve I figured out that the millenium would come when I was in my mid-forties and thus I would be way too old to enjoy it.

    I have loved Jimmy Buffet’s music for years. Florida at its perkiest

    ETA I went to a Jimmy Buffet concert in law school in Tennesee because I wanted to see his warm up Jesse Winchester. Jesse Winchester was okay. Jimmy Buffet blew me away. Amazing and so much fun.

  27. 27.

    Betty Cracker

    Sen. Rick Scott is swooping in, bat-like, to take advantage of the DeSantis campaign’s change of plans on meeting the POTUS, according to Politico:

    GOP Sen. Rick Scott, who has long fought with DeSantis, on Friday night also posted on social media that he’ll be with Biden in Suwannee County, which is about an hour from where the hurricane made landfall, on Saturday. He said he’ll receive a storm briefing from local officials and will be pushing Biden to approve his disaster relief legislation.

    LOL! Rick Scott is as terrible a retail politician as DeSantis is, but he’s smarter and more disciplined.

  31. 31.

    Betty Cracker

    @Baud: Scott rarely misses an opportunity to beclown DeSantis. The source of the bad blood between the two is unclear to me. It could be because DeSantis finagled a GOP primary endorsement in 2018 by shamelessly kissing Trump’s ass, thereby dooming the candidacy of Adam Putnam. But that’s just a guess.

  33. 33.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Baud:

    I think it must’ve been in a thread here not too long ago where that song came up, and I was asking, “whatever happened to waterbeds anyway?” (Superseded by better quality mattresses, IIRC.)

    My favorite Buffett song was “The weather is here, wish you were beautiful” which I’d always listen to, and link to in my out-of-office message, when we went down to Anna Maria Island each year.  I’d always meant to send him a letter asking him where he got the idea to turn that corny twist on the old cliché postcard line into a song.

    Rest in peace, Jimmy, and thanks for all your great songs. You’ll be missed.

  35. 35.

    sab

    @lowtechcyclist: My favorite was “Come Monday.”

    As I keep wanting to say ” Margaritaville” wasn’t his only song. And he did good covers of other peoples songs. I loved his cover of Winchester’s “Biloxi”.

  37. 37.

    Princess

    De Santis is scared of Biden. Trump is scared of Biden. Biden is going to go and talk about hurricane relief and without the Governor there, he’ll get all the credit. If he were the feeble old man they claim, De Santis would be begging to appear with him.

  38. 38.

    Gvg

    @Betty Cracker: He was originally terrible. The first couple of years as a former business man who ran on not giving in to “corrupt” politicians, he got absolutely nothing done. The legislature would not pass a single thing he wanted. As a former executive he had not understood governments divided powers. Then unfortunately he got it and started a give and take that resulted in some awful legislation and Scott got re elected.

    DeSantis seems to be the opposite. He started by understanding government and now seems to be losing it. He has made his Allie’s do stuff that’s going to make it hard for them to get re elected when he is aiming for national office. He is also losing track of what Florida wants.

  39. 39.

    geg6

    Man, the news about Buffet really bums me out.  I have seen him numerous times, too many to count.  Such a great entertainer!  His music was kind of the soundtrack to my relationship with my ex.  He’s going to be bummed too.  He was also an entertaining writer.  Read a few of his books but I especially liked his A Pirate Looks at Fifty, an autobiography of sorts.  RIP Jimmy.

  41. 41.

    West of the Rockies

    I loved Jimmy, his music, and several of his books.  I regret never seeing him perform.   RIP.

  42. 42.

    sab

    @Raven: He always seemed so laid back that I always took for granted how good and true his voice was.

    ETA And I loved his wisp of a Southern accent. It sounded so much like old Florida before we northerners invaded.

  43. 43.

    Percysowner

     

    @Ascap_scab: I could be wrong, but I suspect Obama’s permanent tan had as much to do with that as him being a Democratic President. Biden is an old, white guy, most of the Floridians who would get upset about the Democrats still can relate to that.

  51. 51.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Baud:

    There’ll always be a special place in my heart for “Why don’t we get drunk and screw.” 

    Why does that not surprise me in the least?

  52. 52.

    sab

    @mrmoshpotato: We had a small birthday party with half his kids. I am not sure he recognized any of us. He kept looking at his nurse’s aide in confusian. “Why are all these strange people here?”

    Kind of sad. Very depressing.

    ETA And I do visit him a lot. So without dementia he should have recognized me.

  53. 53.

    leeleeFL

    @Betty Cracker: it’s hard to imagine the world without him!  I just saw the reports a minute ago, and haven’t stopped crying!   This just sucks!

     

    In other news, Ron DeathSantis can eat an entire bag of salted dicks!  I hope he crashes and burns before Super Tuesday. Prick!

  54. 54.

    Suzanne

    I’m bummed about Jimmy. Some songs are perfect for singing along while stuck in traffic. Those are the best songs.

  55. 55.

    leeleeFL

    @Suzanne: I only play Jimmy when driving down the Avenue that’s known as A1A!  I used to drive my Mama to Sebastian to watch the breakers for a day and she sang it as loud as she could!

  59. 59.

    Suzanne

    @leeleeFL: I spent many hours over the years, stuck crawling down one shitty urban freeway or another, singing and seat-dancing to various Buffett tunes. Gotta make that shit bearable.

  61. 61.

    dr. luba

    I traveled a lot more when I was younger, throughout the world (pre-COVID and sciatica).  “Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes” always rang true to me.  As did “Cheeseburger in Paradise.”  For different reasons, of course.

    Reading departure signs in some big airport reminds me of the places I’ve been
    Visions of good times that brought so much pleasure makes me want to go back again
    If it suddenly ended tomorrow I could somehow adjust to the fall
    Good times and riches and son-of-a-bitches I’ve seen more than I can recall

  62. 62.

    bbleh

    @Betty Cracker: Also, it’s pretty clear they’re related.  There can’t be TWO Florida politicians who can unhinge their jaws and swallow children whole that aren’t at least cousins.

  63. 63.

    Josie

    @sab: ​
     A nurse explained that to me. With dementia, the recent memory is lost, but the old memories are still there. So he doesn’t recognize his children as adults. His memory has them as much younger. I started taking family photo albums to look at with Mama, and it helped her to remember people.

  64. 64.

    Soprano2

    @Betty Cracker: It’s so dumb for DeSantis to snub Biden like this. It makes him look small and petty to most people. I think they forget they need regular people’s votes to actually win – MAGA’s aren’t enough.

  65. 65.

    RandomMonster

    @Dangerman: Let’s do a test; let’s have Trump meet with DeSantis. Bet he’d be humming a different tune for Donald.

    It would be a hummer of one kind or another.

  66. 66.

    kalakal

    @Josie: We did that with my mother. It helped a lot. By the last few months everything had gone but it bought us quite a few years which we treasure. I’m the eldest by a few years so I got her memories longest. The part I found hardest was the tape loop conversations. Dementia is so cruel. One kind thing about memory is it also works to protect you. When I think of my parents my default thoughts of them is not of the very end of their lives, sick and frail but when they were young and strong, full of energy and beauty, laughing and enjoying life. I think that is a great kindness

  68. 68.

    Ken

    @Gvg: @Betty Cracker: @leeleeFL: So assuming DeSantis doesn’t get the presidential nomination — or does, but isn’t elected — what’s his Florida political career look like?  I’m guessing the classic “nasty, brutish, and short.”

    I recall some talk about changing Florida’s laws/constitution so he could run for governor again, but I’m guessing the legislature wouldn’t be so quick to roll over for him post-defeat, especially on that issue since some undoubtedly have their own ambitions.

  69. 69.

    Betty Cracker

    @Ken: Yeah, I don’t think changing the state constitution would fly either. My guess is if DeSantis washes out this year, we’ll be stuck with him as our pouty governor with thwarted national ambitions until 2026, and that he’ll continue running the state as a GOP presidential primary campaign showroom and give it another go in 2028.

    I don’t understand why more Floridians aren’t disgusted with being used as campaign props and their tax dollars wasted on political stunts. I don’t mean the wingnuts — them I understand. I mean normies who are getting hammered with unaffordable insurance, chaotic schools, etc., because of RD’s performative antics. They should be PISSED.

  70. 70.

    Soprano2

    @kalakal: That’s interesting, it explains why my grandfather always knew who my grandmother was but had a hard time with the rest of us. I have the opposite experience to you – I have a hard time remembering what my grandpa was like before he got sick.  I have to work at it. I’m so terrified that will happen with my husband. I’m hopeful it won’t because we’ve been together over 34 years.

  71. 71.

    Honus

    @Baud: I was in the air studio at my college radio station in about 1976 when my friend played that song and then totally innocently committed the Mother of all Freudian Slips: “and that was Jimmy Buffett from his album A White Sport Coat and Pink Cuntstacean”  There may have been marijuana involved.

  72. 72.

    kalakal

    @Ken: I think you’re right. Once his campaign crashes and burns he’s the lamest of ducks and covered in loser stink. Fl GOP pols are are a despicable, stupid, and cowardly bunch but they are ambitious and they hate him. Up till now they’ve been scared of him but in a few months he’ll not only have anything to offer him, he’ll be a millstone.

     

    @Betty Cracker: I don’t get that either. He’s making no pretense at trying to act as a governor and is costing the state a fortune. I’m hoping quite a few are waking up as the increasing number of media coverage of people discovering that he rejected the federal money for grants for home solar come out. I’ve seen quite a few ” Homeowners shocked to discover DeSantis veto will cost them $1,000s” lately.

  74. 74.

    kalakal

    @Soprano2: I really hope that it works that way with your husband. I think after 34 years you’ll have so many really strong, really good memories they’ll be the ones that pop up first. Thinking about it I basically lived away from home ever since I went to university at 18 so those are the strongest memories of my parents. As a family we were both very close and usually widely geographically separated ( any time we were all on the same continent was a step up) but we talked a lot via phone and met up when we could.

  75. 75.

    kindness

    DeSantis…. he’s going out of his way to show us all what a tiny small man he really is.

    We knew.

  77. 77.

    cope

    @raven: I saw him in the Auditorium in ’74.  He had the back-up group with him and I’m 90% sure Doyle Grisham was on pedal steel guitar at that concert.

  78. 78.

    cope

    @raven: Multiple obits I have read today put his net worth at one billion dollars. He was very smart in how he diversified his investments.

  80. 80.

    suzanne

    @eclare: So far, so good. I ran out to get Covid tests on Thursday, and I had to go to three places to find any. So far, everyone feels fine. So fingers crossed.

  81. 81.

    Bill Arnold

    @JWR:
    Depressing how many of the replies in that thread have no clue that Ramaswamy is a con man.
    That he has no original thoughts, just slight rehashes of right-wing fever swamp talking points.

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