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You are here: Home / John Cole Presents "This Fucking Old House" / Rip Van Dishwasher

Rip Van Dishwasher

by John Cole|  September 2, 20234:07 pm| 132 Comments

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The dishwasher I put in when I bought and gutted and renovated this house six or seven years ago died after only two years in 2019 or 2020. Just stopped working. Lights were on but it would not do anything. Me being me, I just said to myself- “Well, guess I don’t have a dishwasher now.” I had never had one my entire life, and live alone, so doing dishes by hand is no big deal. I actually kind of like doing dishes because it gives me a chance to just zone out and not think for a while and is peaceful. I do like that dishes are so much cleaner from a dishwasher, but whatever. At any rate, a couple weeks ago, I walked into the kitchen and the dishwasher, dormant for 3-4 years, beeped and the lights came on. I put a couple glasses in and ran a short cycle, and it worked.

So now I have a dishwasher again, and I’ve named it Rip Van Dishwasher.

Also, my modem died and I went to Xfinity and got a new one and have named my wifi network “Deep State.”

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  1. 1.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 4:11 pm

    Deep State FTW. The judges would also accept Deep Thought, but you neighbors might not get that one.

    The dishwasher is one of mankind’s better achievements.

  2. 2.

    HinTN

    September 2, 2023 at 4:12 pm

    Deep State, indeed. Glad you haven’t lost your sense of humor, Cole

    ETA: No idea how I arrived at 4 while editing this one.

  3. 3.

    Virginia

    September 2, 2023 at 4:14 pm

    Our Wi-Fi is named AntifaSTXHqtrs.

  4. 4.

    HinTN

    September 2, 2023 at 4:14 pm

    Deep State, indeed. Glad you haven’t lost your sense of humor, Cole.

    ETA: @trollhattan:

    The dishwasher is one of mankind’s better achievements.

    Truth!

  5. 5.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    Cole, are you paying Xfinity a monthly fee for your modem?  If so, over time you are likely paying them 5x what the modem costs them.  You could consider buying the modem and saving yourself money over time.

  6. 6.

    Nancy

    September 2, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    Great news. But I still think you oughta consider moving to western New York state.

    You can bring the dishwasher.

  7. 7.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 4:16 pm

    That’s like the movie Awakenings.

    We’ll know it’s really like Awakenings if it works for awhile and then stops again.

  8. 8.

    HinTN

    September 2, 2023 at 4:16 pm

    @WaterGirl: What happened with that comment 2 & 4 juju?

  9. 9.

    Jeffro

    September 2, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    Your dishwasher didn’t happen to be built by CyberDyne Systems, did it Cole?

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    @Virginia: I still like FBI Mobile Vehicle for a wifi name.  Let anybody who’s doing something illegal sweat every time they see it.

  11. 11.

    Librarian

    September 2, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    John, how did your kitchen sink problem turn out?

  12. 12.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 4:20 pm

    @HinTN: I have no idea.

    Every so often when someone is editing they end up with 2 comments.  I can only think that there is some magic key combination that is inadvertently pressed while the edit is in process, or that someone is on a slow device or one particular device that has a fluke.

    It happens rarely enough that it hasn’t been worth pursuing.

    Strange, though!

  13. 13.

    xephyr

    September 2, 2023 at 4:21 pm

    Hah! That’s funny as hell John. Anything that can make me laugh these days is good. : )

  14. 14.

    Doc Sardonic

    September 2, 2023 at 4:23 pm

    @HinTN: Has happened to me before, merrily editing away on a comment, edit window runs out without warning, you hit post changes and voila new post

  15. 15.

    John Cole

    September 2, 2023 at 4:29 pm

    @WaterGirl:  Probably but I do not have to read instructions or replace it out of pocket like I would have today. And if something doesn’t work I call them and say “Your shit is broke fix it”

    I got a whole ass three story house I am constantly repairing it’s ok to have one thing I do not have to fuck with.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 4:32 pm

    @John Cole: Fair enough!

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 4:33 pm

    @Doc Sardonic:

    Has happened to me before, merrily editing away on a comment, edit window runs out without warning, you hit post changes and voila new post.

    Huh.  If I get carried away, merrily editing without thinking of the 5-minute window, the whole thing goes poof.  I never get a new comment.  Bummer.  I would like to speak to the manager!!!  :-)

  18. 18.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 2, 2023 at 4:38 pm

    @WaterGirl: ​
     

    I still like FBI Mobile Vehicle for a wifi name. Let anybody who’s doing something illegal sweat every time they see it.

    My next door neighbor’s wifi is FBI Surveillance Van. Pretty much the same thing!

  19. 19.

    Scout211

    September 2, 2023 at 4:38 pm

    Also, my modem died

    OMG.  I almost had a heart attack. I was reading too quickly and I momentarily thought you wrote:

    Also my mom died.

    I can’t tell you how glad I am that your modem died.

  20. 20.

    Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)

    September 2, 2023 at 4:38 pm

    This is why this place is a national treasure. Come for the politics, stay for the random tales about mustard, dishwashers and Shitmas.

  21. 21.

    ALurkSupreme

    September 2, 2023 at 4:40 pm

    “Lights were on but it would not do anything.”

    Rotating tag if ever I saw one.

  22. 22.

    Josie

    September 2, 2023 at 4:41 pm

    Goodness, John Cole, I can’t believe another person zones out and relaxes while doing dishes. My boys have always thought it was strange that I prefer doing dishes by hand for my meditation time. I actually hate unloading a dishwasher for some reason.

  23. 23.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 2, 2023 at 4:48 pm

    Rip Van Dishwasher needs to hang out with Camper Van Beethoven, irrespective of the fact that one is a household appliance and the other is a band.

    And since last night’s thread is long dead, Cole, I concur with those noting that you’re two miles from the Pennsylvania state line, and you should consider moving that short distance to a more sane state.

  24. 24.

    Joy in FL

    September 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    That happened to a garbage disposal I had back in the 80s. It stopped working suddenly. Then weeks later, I turned it on just for no reason, and it worked. Weirdest thing.  I hadn’t gotten it fixed because I did not have the funds to spare for a non-necessary  appliance.   So it fixed itself.

  25. 25.

    bbleh

    September 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    So, um, you haven’t been eating Chernobyl Flakes for breakfast again, have you?

    Whatever, I have a couple of, ah, dormant electronic devices that I’d be happy to send you if you would do a laying on of hands or whatever.  I mean, can’t hurt, right?  I’ll pay the postage.

  26. 26.

    Jeffro

    September 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    OT but since the last thread seems pretty dead: Republican Race Remains Stuck As Trump Dominates Headlines

    The dire situation has forced Trump’s would-be successors to refocus their post-Labor Day push on the first voting states, fueled by a near-providential conviction that about 400,000 people in Iowa and New Hampshire — the first two nominating contests — can change history once again. It has also led to frenzied conversations among some candidates and campaign consultants who don’t want to go after Trump for fear of alienating his supporters — but who don’t see a path to beating him without attacking him at some point.

    They find themselves scrambling to make the case that they can stand up to the front-runner, while fighting back against the notion that Trump’s dominance has permanently transformed the party around his personality.

    “Every day that goes by — no one has come up with a good idea,” said Dave Carney, a Republican consultant who worked in the presidential campaigns of Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, speaking about the major rivals to Trump. “This was a perfect opportunity to lay out your attack on Trump, since he wasn’t at the debate, and no one had the [guts] to talk about it. You know why? They don’t know what to do.”

    Yes, it is a mystery why they can’t beat him without actually taking him on(!)

    Maybe one day you’ll figure it out, GOP.  But I’m not optimistic about that, honestly.

  27. 27.

    RaflW

    September 2, 2023 at 4:52 pm

    I originally thought the thread meant R.I.P. for the dishwasher, but no!

    Our middling GE dishwasher, which we use sparingly, had the brain die after just a few years. The cycle lights would turn on, you’d press start, close the door, and five annoyingly chipper sets of tones meant “I canno do it, cap’n, the Cascade crystals can’t reach critical thermal blah blah something something”.

    I think it was $150 to save a maybe $500 dishwasher from the landfill. Fingers crossed, the brain transplant is holding.

  28. 28.

    Doc Sardonic

    September 2, 2023 at 4:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: No, not the timer running out, random closure of the edit window, but the comment your editing still thinks it’s active. Had the edit shutdown on me a while back about 1 minute in while I was putting in a sentence I left out, but I caught it and just put the relevant part in another comment.

    Hope this helps.

  29. 29.

    Jay

    September 2, 2023 at 4:54 pm

    Most modern appliance have computer controls, fridge, dishwasher, furnace, microwave, washer, dryer, etc,.

    Quite often, the computer has a “brain fart”.

    Killing power for 20-30 minutes by unplugging it or shutting off the breaker, then turning it on again often resets it to the factory settings again.

    Always try that first before calling an appliance repair company.

  30. 30.

    bbleh

    September 2, 2023 at 4:54 pm

    @Jeffro: Lol.  They have worked for years to create an electorate that is angry, superstitious, obedient, and utterly disconnected from reality — that is, the very model of a cult — and then they wonder why the cult is behaving like a cult.

    Any time somebody says Republican politicians are evil masterminds, I’m pretty confident saying “well, you’re half right.”

  31. 31.

    Jeffro

    September 2, 2023 at 4:54 pm

    Also, a really good (if obvious) point from Jamelle Bouie today in That Paper: it’s not like we can go on like this, with some states attacking and some states defending rights to bodily autonomy for their female citizens:

    In Texas, anti-abortion activists and lawmakers are using local ordinances to try to make it illegal to transport anyone to get an abortion on roads within city or county limits. Abortion opponents behind one such measure “are targeting regions along interstates and in areas with airports,” Caroline Kitchener reports in The Washington Post, “with the goal of blocking off the main arteries out of Texas and keeping pregnant women hemmed within the confines of their anti-abortion state.”

    Alabama and Texas join Idaho in targeting the right to travel. And they aren’t alone; lawmakers in other states, like Missouri, have also contemplated measures that would limit the ability of women to leave their states to obtain an abortion or even hold them criminally liable for abortion services received out of state.

    The reason to compare these proposed limits on travel within and between states to antebellum efforts to limit the movement of free or enslaved Black people is that both demonstrate the limits of federalism when it comes to fundamental questions of bodily autonomy.

    It is not tenable to vary the extent of bodily rights from state to state, border to border. It raises legal and political questions that have to be settled in one direction or another. Are women who are residents of anti-abortion states free to travel to states where abortion is legal to obtain the procedure? Do anti-abortion states have the right to hold residents criminally liable for abortions that occur elsewhere? Should women leaving anti-abortion states be considered presumptively pregnant and subject to criminal investigation, lest they obtain the procedure?

    Laws of this sort may not be on the immediate horizon, but the questions are still legitimate. By ending the constitutional guarantee of bodily autonomy, the Supreme Court has fully unsettled the rights of countless Americans in ways that must be resolved. Once again, a house divided against itself cannot stand.

  32. 32.

    RaflW

    September 2, 2023 at 4:57 pm

    Our WiFi at our townhouse, which is not an apartment, and is definitely not numbered 407, is called “Apartment 407” because we brought it with us when we moved. And there are no apartment buildings near us, and no house numbers approaching 407 either.

    I like the very minor absurdity.

  33. 33.

    Scout211

    September 2, 2023 at 4:58 pm

    @Jay: Killing power for 20-30 minutes by unplugging it or shutting off the breaker, then turning it on again often resets it to the factory settings again.

    That worked with our old washing machine. But now that we are on a PG&E power line that shuts off an entire section when anything touches a wire in the section, we have had multiple chances to restart our appliances. Over and over . . .

    So no need for manual restarts!
    😡

  34. 34.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 5:00 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: Guessing camping with Beethoven would be one shitty camping trip (deaf, cranky old German yelling about finding a piano) but it would earn maximum bragging rights.

  35. 35.

    Jeffro

    September 2, 2023 at 5:00 pm

    But this was really heartening (gift link): Abortion Fight Unites Democrats and Rattles Republicans

    I mean, even the GOP admits it, they’re screwed

    DOOR COUNTY, Wis. — The Republican Party tent’s centerpiece sign blared appeals to potential voters: Defend America! We stand for our flag. Protect women’s sports. #Bidenflation.

    If that failed to catch eyes at this summer’s Door County Fair, there was always the four-foot plastic elephant wearing an American flag top hat. But the wallet-size cards featuring illustrated fetuses? Those stayed on a table in the back-left corner. You’d have to look down, perhaps through glasses, to see anything about abortion.

    “We’ve got disagreements on this issue within our own party,” said Stephanie Soucek, the GOP chairwoman in this stretch of northeast Wisconsin, who’d set up the booth between a lemonade stand and the hypnosis stage. “That’s the challenge: Finding a message we can all agree on.”

    Good luck!

     

    Warning signs

    Joel Kitchens, the conservative Wisconsin State Assembly member whose district includes Door County, sensed his party had a problemeven before the biennial survey of his constituents went out.

    It wasn’t scientific or even neutral — the Republican state speaker’s office had crafted the questions, and Kitchens’s staff had modified them — but the response this summer validated his concerns: Less than a fifth supported banning abortion except to save a woman’s life.

    The issue could box in the GOP, Kitchens fears.

    He’d watched Republican businessman Tim Michels lose the gubernatorial race last year after championing the 1849 law — then backpedaling to say he’d sign a bill allowing exceptions for rape and incest.

    Incumbent Democratic Gov. Tony Evers, who’d campaigned on restoring the state’s pre-Dobbs access of 22 weeks, became Wisconsin’s first gubernatorial candidate to win while his party occupied the White House in more than three decades.

    “If we’re going to be so dogmatic on that — no abortions no matter what — it’s not going to be a winning thing for us,” said Kitchens, a retiredveterinarian who has held office since 2015. “And I think we’re already seeing that.”

  36. 36.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 5:01 pm

    @RaflW: Have serially considered changing mine to White Windowleess Free Candy Van. IDK if there’s a character limit.

  37. 37.

    zhena gogolia

    September 2, 2023 at 5:01 pm

    @Scout211: I had the same reaction.

  38. 38.

    Bill Arnold

    September 2, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    @Jay:

    Always try that first before calling an appliance repair company.

    Also, if it has water inputs, there may be a clogged strainer, which is often trivial to find and clean out.
    (Last washing machine service call was that, because I had forgotten about the strainers.)

  39. 39.

    zhena gogolia

    September 2, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    @Josie: I hate loading it. We have a dishwasher that hasn’t worked in about 10 years.

  40. 40.

    DCrefugee

    September 2, 2023 at 5:05 pm

    I had a guest wifi network named “DEA Surveillance Van #3”.  A buddy of mine fell hard for it…

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 5:07 pm

    @Scout211: ​
    Were having fridge problems and helpfully, the thing is stuffed into a cabinet-depth enclosure with the outlet at the back so I could not unplug it without a LOT of struggle, plus blocking the kitchen entry.

    Instead I tried to ID and shut the breaker–we have three sub-panels and a lot of retired circuits (old house). Anyway, I never found the damn thing. Which has me wondering just who is paying to power that fridge? Am I tapped into a neighbor or some kind of 3rd world wiring scheme?

  42. 42.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 5:08 pm

    @Jeffro: Transit Visas. When will Republicans introduce those?

  43. 43.

    Josie

    September 2, 2023 at 5:09 pm

    @zhena gogolia: ​
     Same here. I dislike loading it, but I save my worst hatred for unloading.

  44. 44.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 2, 2023 at 5:13 pm

    @Josie: Folding clothes after they come out of the laundry is the worst chore IMHO.

  45. 45.

    Baud

    September 2, 2023 at 5:14 pm

    @Jeffro:

    If we’re going to be so dogmatic on that — no abortions no matter what — it’s not going to be a winning thing for us,” said Kitchens, a retiredveterinarian who has held office since 2015. “And I think we’re already seeing that.”

     
    Just click your heels three times and say “Biden is old.”

  46. 46.

    terraformer

    September 2, 2023 at 5:15 pm

    We bought a house in 2015 and it came with a 80s-era Jenn-Air, a somewhat high-end brand. It’s still running, although probably not very efficiently.

    But friends who bought new appliances from LG or Samsung are saying things fail in one or two years.

    Given the general lack of durability and/or quality in appliances these days, when we *do* buy one, we always get an extended warranty (up to 10 years parts and labor if available). The peace of mind is worth it.

  47. 47.

    Feathers

    September 2, 2023 at 5:15 pm

    I have a currently non working dishwasher. It’s an old/cheap one that doesn’t have an accessible filter. I live alone, so it’s almost as easy to hand wash. Tiny kitchen so the dishwasher is now the drying rack, which works out well.

    Don’t know if someone already posted, but I got a huge kick out of this. Dog sneaks into Metallica show   

    Note: Dog lives next door to stadium and made it home the next day.

  48. 48.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2023 at 5:15 pm

    I actively do not like dishwashers, I don’t care how many bells and whistles they sport. Even with the fancy new computerised models, I’ve seen far too many cloudy glasses and dried-on food stuck to plates to trust them.

    OTOH, I really do enjoy washing dishes by hand. I have many warm memories of doing the dishes with my grandmother. The whole exercise always feels cozy and nostalgic for me. Also, I can clean the dishes to my own high standards.

  49. 49.

    Baud

    September 2, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Freak.

  50. 50.

    Sure Lurkalot

    September 2, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Yes, it is a mystery why they can’t beat him without actually taking him on(!)

    A commenter to the Wapo article had some good talking points:

    If he is as rich as he says, he is the elite.
    If he is anti government as he says, he is the deep state.
    He was riding on Obama’s coattails for the economy, look at the charts.
    The guy stiffs the little guy. He would rather hire foreigners than US citizen – he can pay them less.
    His idea of infrastructure week was sitting a truck acting like a 3 year old.

    I also think it’s ludicrous that they are afraid of the knuckleheaded primary voters they themselves created. They spent a lot of time and good money dumbing them down and they let Trump take them for nothing (oh well, prodigious tax cuts).

  51. 51.

    Jeffro

    September 2, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    @trollhattan: papers please 😡

  52. 52.

    Brachiator

    September 2, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    @Jeffro:

    It has also led to frenzied conversations among some candidates and campaign consultants who don’t want to go after Trump for fear of alienating his supporters — but who don’t see a path to beating him without attacking him at some point.

    This is comically self-defeating. In some ways, both Biden and Trump are running as incumbents. Biden is the actual sitting president.

    Trump is running as though he was falsely toppled. And he continues to have an advantage as long as the GOP leadership support him, and the clown show candidates refuse to attack him. Trump can always say, “the people like what I did for them and they want me to do it again. Why are you other bums even running?”

    This might change if Trump is tried and convicted.

    But this is the GOP’s problem for now.

  53. 53.

    JDM

    September 2, 2023 at 5:24 pm

    I had a friend who, when anything mechanical/electric didn’t work, would put it in a closet for a month, then try it again. If it still didn’t work he’d throw it out. Amazing, though, how many times it turned out to be some glitch and a rest would fix it.

  54. 54.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2023 at 5:26 pm

    @JDM:

    Amazing, though, how many times it turned out to be some glitch and a rest would fix it.

    Sounds like me.

  55. 55.

    Jeffro

    September 2, 2023 at 5:26 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: ah but all those things seem to go right out the window. The moment that trump says “ I speak for you, the aggrieved, the victimized, the left behind.”

    only a candidate who could point out that he didn’t do jack shit for 95% of his base, and sneer at trump while doing it, might have a prayer of defeating their tribal chieftain

    I am still mystified at the strategy that one could win a primary by never taking on the front runner…unless, of course the real strategy is to hope that the front runner drops dead of a hamberder-driven heart attack.  Which it is.

  56. 56.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2023 at 5:27 pm

    @Baud:

    Kinkshamer.

  57. 57.

    RaflW

    September 2, 2023 at 5:27 pm

    @terraformer: The Bosch dishwasher I put in my previous condo (aka Apt 407) ran without complaint or problem for the 9 years I lived there. It’s the brand I wish I’d bought rather than the flimflam GE mentioned up thread, but was part of a package with range and micro. All of which are meh, but working.

    The only negative of Boschs is that while they take plates like a champ (many, many of them, and they come out clean) the glassware/mug rack layout never made any sense. Rarely ever had issues with (unrinsed!) dishes coming clean.

  58. 58.

    different-church-lady

    September 2, 2023 at 5:27 pm

    I was in a cafe once and my wifi found a node some wag had named “FBI Surveillance Van”.  But what made it really funny was just below there was also “FBI Surveillance Van-Guest”

  59. 59.

    Josie

    September 2, 2023 at 5:29 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: ​
     It’s funny the chores we dislike and those we do easily. I raised three boys and can fold t-shirts in my sleep. To me, folding clothes is almost as relaxing as washing dishes.

  60. 60.

    different-church-lady

    September 2, 2023 at 5:30 pm

    @Jeffro: They really just don’t understand there’s no Republican Party anymore, there’s nothing but Trump’s cult of personality now.

  61. 61.

    twbrandt

    September 2, 2023 at 5:31 pm

    I do not understand those of you who hate dishwashers. To me they are a wonderful invention that saves me from an onerous task I actively dislike. I just put dirty dishes in the machine, press a button, and a little while later I have perfectly clean dishes. It’s magic.

    To each their own, I guess.

  62. 62.

    raven

    September 2, 2023 at 5:32 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:

    “Lowery’s extensive experience in business led to his appointment as a lecturer in the University of Georgia’s music business program.[9] Charles Pitter at PopMatters has said that “in addition to this work, Lowery teaches as a lecturer and has a consistently high profile in the media as a champion of artists rights.”

  63. 63.

    different-church-lady

    September 2, 2023 at 5:32 pm

    @Josie: There is a foolproof method to get me to do the dishes: simply give me something else to do instead.

  64. 64.

    CaseyL

    September 2, 2023 at 5:32 pm

    My dishwasher didn’t do anything so plebian as “stop running,” it simply stopped cleaning anything. I’d swear dishes came out dirtier than they went in.

    I looked up any number of tips, tricks, and YouTube guides on how to fix the most comment minor problems: run bleach through a wash cycle, run vinegar through a wash cycle, clean the filter, clean the filter some more.

    Nothing worked. I was so effing sure it was the motor, on a dishwasher that was just a little over a year old, and that pissed me off so much I refused to get a repair person out and instead washed dishes by hand for a few months.

    Then, a little while back, I thought about the one thing all the tips/tricks/guides suggested that I had not tried: check the little holes in the swing arms (where the water sprays out from) to make sure they’re not blocked.

    Well. You know where this is going, right? Right. I found something that could clear out the little holes if they needed it, and… they needed it.

    I also tried a different cycle, other than just plain “Wash.” It’s a longer cycle – in fact it takes pretty much all day because this is a newfangled dishwasher that uses less water, except that doesn’t get the dishes clean, so you need to run a extra-long cycle (using extra water) but the manufacturer can still say their product is more energy- and water-efficient.

    But at least the f*cking thing is working again.

  65. 65.

    raven

    September 2, 2023 at 5:33 pm

    @RaflW: We have a Bosch hybrid HVAC, heat pump and gas furnace.

  66. 66.

    RaflW

    September 2, 2023 at 5:34 pm

    @Josie: I almost always fold everything right out of the dryer. I hate having everything that just got clean getting wrinkles by sitting in a basket for days. And its not a chore I mind much.

    BF just dumps everything in the basket and delays folding as long as possible (though he hangs his work shirts immediately). To each his own!

  67. 67.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 5:35 pm

    @twbrandt: ​
    There are diswashers and there are dishwashers. Any rental I had that was equipped with one had bought the cheapest imaginable–so loud you could not be in the same room, took a ton of detergent, no temp control, did a meh job.

    When we did our house kitchen we went full-zoot German and magically, the very silent steel box gave scrupulously clean dishes no amount of handwashing can match, in part because of the water softener, which in turn dropped the water and detergent used to a tiny fraction of other machines. That one lasted 20 years and its replacement works even better.

    Also, too, etched glass is from running too high a temp. Drop that and you can wash lead crystal.

  68. 68.

    Jay

    September 2, 2023 at 5:38 pm

    @trollhattan:

    so, they make “senders”. Less than $100.

    The sender get’s plugged in to the socket or screwed into the light socket. It sends an electrical pulse along the wiring. The hand array has a wand and a series of LED’s. At the breaker panel or fuse box, you use the wand to identify the circuit.

    The bad news is that electricians tend to wire circuits of of the shortest run of wire, as that is their big cost, so quite often in older homes the circuit might include a wall plug in the living room, the light fixture in the hall, the razor plug in the bathroom and a wall plug in the master bedroom.

    Current code here now is that all appliances have to be on their own GFI circuit.

  69. 69.

    RaflW

    September 2, 2023 at 5:40 pm

    @raven: Oh! Do you have a model number or some product info link? That sounds exactly like what we need at our cabin (forced air furnace is at the end of its design life, and currently no central a/c but a desired addition).

  70. 70.

    wjca

    September 2, 2023 at 5:41 pm

    I can so relate to the appliances issues.  My desktop computer (a less than a year old Dell) died yesterday.  Just refuses to boot up.  Pre-boot diagnostics, even the advanced ones, come back saying “No problems found.”  Just let it run, and it says “initializing problem resolution” but it shows no sign of getting further.  Tried, just for the hell of it, leaving it spinning its wheels for 12 hours.  Still nothing.

    Just to gild the lily, the power button won’t work to turn it off.  Gotta disconnect the power cord.  Sigh.

    Tech support is off for Labor Day.  Good thing I’ve got a laptop and a tablet.

  71. 71.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 5:42 pm

    @Jay: Heh, funny you should say that because I have one for outlets. Next time the fridge is out of its hole, I’m running that sucker down. Then after I write “fridge” on the right breaker, I’m putting in a remote switch for the fridge plug so when I want it shut off, I can shut it off.

    Did it ever occur to fridge makers to put an on/off switch on their product?

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: Yes, I was looking for the right phrase, but didn’t find it.  That’s it!

  73. 73.

    Miss Bianca

    September 2, 2023 at 5:44 pm

    @Feathers: Of course it’s a Husky! Headbangin’ Husky! :)

    Thanks, that was awesome.

  74. 74.

    Another Scott

    September 2, 2023 at 5:45 pm

    @CaseyL: We had a 20-ish year old top loading washing machine that went through the motions but wasn’t getting our clothes clean anymore.  So we figured that it was time to get a new one.  We got a front loader LG pair that has been great.

    When the delivery people came to remove the old pair and install the new pair there was a pile of rubber dust under the washer.  A light bulb went off – the belt wore out!  That’s why it wasn’t cleaning well!  I felt stupid…

    But it’s still good we replaced them – the new washer works better and uses much less water and power.

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    “Who tries to remember to check the simple stuff first, but doesn’t always succeed.”

  75. 75.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    @Doc Sardonic: Maybe that’s the weird occasional glitch that I have been suspecting!

  76. 76.

    twbrandt

    September 2, 2023 at 5:47 pm

    @trollhattan: Both the one in my current house and the one at my old house are Bosch units. They are great.

  77. 77.

    Jay

    September 2, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Did it ever occur to fridge makers to put an on/off switch on their product?

    Fridges/freezers are supposed to run 24/7, so yeah, no on off switch because it could be accidentally turned off. My laptop has a wifi switch right beside the CD tray, (yup it’s old). 95% of the time that I lose my connection, it’s because just handling the laptop turned the switch off.

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 5:53 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    If he is as rich as he says, he is the elite.

    If he is anti government as he says, he is the deep state.

    He was riding on Obama’s coattails for the economy, look at the charts.

    The guy stiffs the little guy. He would rather hire foreigners than US citizen – he can pay them less.

    His idea of infrastructure week was sitting a truck acting like a 3 year old.

    If only that could fit in a rotating tag.

  79. 79.

    Sister Golden Bear

    September 2, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    My wifi is THX-1138.

  80. 80.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    @RaflW: ​
    We went through replacing our split system–gas/AC and ours happens to be Fujitsu, recommended by our contractor so I can’t say we shopped. Model # AOUG36LMAS1. Catchy, no?

    IIRC it’s rated 3 tons. We’ve had it since January so have gone through part of a winter and most of a summer. I was not prepared for how quiet the AC is compared to the old one, which had two modes: silent and ROAR. We’d abandon the backyard when it ran.

    Everything is much smaller, inside and outdoors.

    Keeping a spreadsheet to track electricity and gas cost differences. Have about three years’ data. Less gas means less money to PG&E, because we have municipal electricity.

  81. 81.

    Tehanu

    September 2, 2023 at 5:57 pm

    Our place is a 90-year-old duplex and the landlord insists on (a) keeping it “authentic” and (b) when forced to repair anything, using the absolute cheapest version of whatever it is — which of course means that the repairs last about 2 weeks before deteriorating in one way or another. We’ve been here 17 years without a dishwasher. There’s just the two of us, but somehow we go thru dozens of dishes, pots & pans, etc. every couple of days.  I finally figured out that listening to audiobooks while I do the dishes makes the chore less annoying.

  82. 82.

    Scout211

    September 2, 2023 at 6:02 pm

    Re: dishwasher brands.  The GE profile dishwasher we had originally in this house was not great. We have tile floors and high ceilings so the noise was so bad it echoed throughout the house like an airport runway. When I was looking to purchase a new one, I looked at the Bosch because both of my daughters had Bosch in their homes and I was impressed with how quiet they were. So I started my search and looked at the recommendations all over the internet and the specs listed for all the recommended brands and models. The Bosch calls itself quiet but the one I picked, a Kichenaid, was rated at a much lower decibel level than any of the Bosch models.

    I am very happy with the Kitchenaid and interestingly, both daughters had to replace their Bosch dishwashers since then. Neither lasted 5 years, but YMMV.

    When I hired a local appliance repair guy to install my new dryer and add the propane converter, I asked him which brands he thought were more reliable in home appliances. He said he really didn’t have a preference these days, they are were about equally bad in quality compared to appliances decades ago.

    He did tell me that there is one brand that he hates repairing, though.  Kitchenaid! He told me that they’re equal to the other brands in quality but a pain the ass to repair. Apparently, they hide all the controls and parts so you have to practically take the whole appliance apart just to replace a part or make a repair.

    So I now have a great dishwasher that is super quiet but will cost a fortune if it needs any repairs since he charges by the hour.

  83. 83.

    Mousebumples

    September 2, 2023 at 6:05 pm

    @RaflW: I put in a Bosch dishwasher ~8 years ago without issue. I enjoy the silverware rack. Definitely took out the silverware cage – I think it’s under my sink somewhere…

    Best decision I made when redoing the kitchen was splitting the oven and cooktop. I’m tall. I don’t want to reach under the cooktop to get to the oven. So that’s mid-cabinet (with cabinets above and below) with drawers under the cooktop.

  84. 84.

    kindness

    September 2, 2023 at 6:05 pm

    House demons it sounds like to me.  Happens at my home regularly.

  85. 85.

    evap

    September 2, 2023 at 6:14 pm

    I am absolutely loving all the clever wi-fi names, especially the surveillance vans.   I’m pondering changing ours…

    When we first had to name our network, I asked our daughters who were quite young.  They picked Garfield since they both loved the cartoon cat Garfield at the time.  So it’s been Garfield ever since.

  86. 86.

    glc

    September 2, 2023 at 6:16 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    THX-1138

    Had to Google that. No recollection of it.

    “underperformed at the box office upon its initial release”

    I guess so.

  87. 87.

    Ruckus

    September 2, 2023 at 6:25 pm

    @trollhattan:

    I have a dishwasher. It’s a great place to store the dishes. Getting them clean and not watering the floor? Not worth the water and effort. I also had a garbage disposal. Had of course being the operative word. It also decided to be a floor flooder, so anything that went in the top came out on the floor. Management was happy to replace it. I was happy to have it replaced.

    I will say that this is a very good complex, part of a national program for seniors (Yes I qualify….) with fixed rent and very good service. Moved in here totally on the concept that when I enquired they had one apartment and it was completely acceptable – and so was I. Fate I tells ya.

  88. 88.

    Spanky

    September 2, 2023 at 6:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: Ours used to be “FBI Van #6”. I doubt our neighbors noticed, though.

  89. 89.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 6:30 pm

    @Ruckus: When were interviewing kitchen contractors, one guy had a Bachelor Kitchen in his portfolio. A key bachelor feature was twin dishwashers, the concept being he’d keep using clean dishes from one then placing them in the other as he used them. When the first was empty he’d run the second and start the process over.

    I had questions but thought the idea had considerable merit.

    Bet the bathroom had a urinal, but since this was a kitchen contractor I did not ask.

  90. 90.

    zhena gogolia

    September 2, 2023 at 6:30 pm

    @glc: George Lucas’s first film, I believe.

  91. 91.

    Ruckus

    September 2, 2023 at 6:32 pm

    @ALurkSupreme:

    Lights were on but nobody was home.

    Rather popular back in the 70s when you see someone with eyes wide open, a slight smell of a burning match and the delightful smell of someone destroying a blunt or a bowl of, shall we say illegal substances.

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    September 2, 2023 at 6:36 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Maybe one day you’ll figure it out, GOP.  But I’m not optimistic about that, honestly.

    Are you saying what I think you are? That it is a fucking cult of stupid and racism? Because I think you are 100000% correct.

  93. 93.

    Shana

    September 2, 2023 at 6:40 pm

    @WaterGirl: Every once in a while some clueless doofus on NextDoor posts about a wifi network named FBI Surveillance Van and should they be worried and I just roll my eyes.

  94. 94.

    Josie

    September 2, 2023 at 6:46 pm

    @Mousebumples: ​
     The house where I raised my boys had a double oven on the wall and a cooktop in the center island. I don’t miss the rest of the house, but I surely do miss that kitchen,

  95. 95.

    Shana

    September 2, 2023 at 6:51 pm

    @terraformer: We lucked into a local independent repair guy who told us not to replace our dryer until we absolutely had to because each temperature setting had its own sensor and new ones had one sensor for all temps and ours is much easier and cheaper to repair. He also said to call him when we needed to buy a new major appliance to find out which brands to avoid. The guy’s a national treasure.

  96. 96.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    @Shana: Interesting bit of info.

    Had to replace ours once parts became unavailable, but a 20-year run so can’t complain. New one is a heat-exchange dryer and uses a quarter of the electricity, even takes a 120 outlet. I’m not betting on 20 years from it, but maybe I don’t need it to.

  97. 97.

    Shana

    September 2, 2023 at 6:57 pm

    @Josie: What I like is ironing. I know it’s weird. Maybe because I also sew and you need to press as you sew. Hubby uses handkerchiefs and I iron them wet from the washer. They end up so nice and crisp.

  98. 98.

    Mousebumples

    September 2, 2023 at 6:57 pm

    @Josie: I thought about getting a double oven, but I didn’t need that much oven space. But I saw a similar setup when buying my house, which gave me the idea…

  99. 99.

    Baud

    September 2, 2023 at 6:58 pm

    Jeez. This guy was supposed to be the moderate Republican, but his staff was just like any other Republican’s.

    April

    A fugitive and former top aide to former Maryland Governor Larry Hogan was killed in Tennessee after a confrontation with the FBI, the Washington Post reported, citing the former aide’s lawyer.

    Yesterday

    A former deputy secretary of state for Gov. Larry Hogan was arrested Wednesday following a sting operation in which Fort Meade criminal investigators posed as a teenage girl skipping school to meet him, according to court records.

    Luis Esteban Borunda has been charged with the sexual solicitation of a minor, a felony that carries a maximum punishment of 10 years in prison. After arranging to meet with someone he thought was a 13-year-old girl, Borunda was arrested in Severn without incident, state police wrote in charging documents

  100. 100.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 2, 2023 at 7:01 pm

    @Shana: My  iron needs replacing, any suggestions?

  101. 101.

    Another Scott

    September 2, 2023 at 7:07 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: What’s your budget?

    I use this one for melting the glue on laminate edging – $16

    We use one of these (currently unavailable) for ironing clothes – $73 in 2017. It’s a nice iron. Don’t let it tip over and fall on the floor…

    HTH a little.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  102. 102.

    Josie

    September 2, 2023 at 7:15 pm

    @Shana: ​
     That brought back a memory. When I was growing up, one of my chores was to iron my father’s starched white dress shirts. He was an attorney and wore them every day. There was no spray starch back then. You had to starch the shirts, spray with a mist of water, roll them up, and let them rest. Then iron. Ugh. I have disliked ironing ever since then. If I have to iron something, I won’t buy it.

  103. 103.

    Shana

    September 2, 2023 at 7:18 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Rowenta. Since the sewing machines and ironing board are in different rooms I like an iron that will turn itself off after it hasn’t been moved in a number of minutes. Beyond that I don’t have a recommendation on a particular model.

  104. 104.

    Baud

    September 2, 2023 at 7:19 pm

    @Josie:

    Kids today don’t know how easy they have it.

  105. 105.

    Josie

    September 2, 2023 at 7:22 pm

    @Baud: ​
     Oh, the stories I could tell. ;-)

  106. 106.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 2, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    @Mousebumples: ​
     

    I put in a Bosch dishwasher ~8 years ago without issue. I enjoy the silverware rack. Definitely took out the silverware cage – I think it’s under my sink somewhere…

    I did the opposite with my Bosch: there just wasn’t enough room for big plastic items up top with the silverware rack in, and we use a lot of Rubbermaid plastic containers, colanders, etc. So it was either take out the top rack or wash a shitload of stuff by hand, which is what you buy a dishwasher to avoid doing.

    Having done that, I’m extremely happy with the Bosch. Every dishwasher I’ve previously had, you had to basically pre-wash everything before loading. With the Bosch, I can just put stuff right in, maybe with a second or two under the tap to rinse off any loose stuff. Much easier to clean up after meals now.

  107. 107.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    @trollhattan:

    I wanted to thank you for the recent mention of Deadloch. I binge-watched it a week or two ago and thought it was pretty good, even though for the first half of it I wanted to punch all of the characters except Dulcie and Amy (Big Eyes). All self-absorbed A-holes.

    Review: Good ensemble acting and lots of subtle comic bits worked into the structure. The ending was a bit of a hot mess, but it was fine. Recommended for anyone seeking lesbian-adjacent Tasmanian comedy murder mystery. Trailer here

    ETA: Amazon Prime.

  108. 108.

    Juju

    September 2, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    @Scout211: it’s nice to know I’m not the only one who read that sentence that way. It made my heart skip a beat or two.

  109. 109.

    dexwood

    September 2, 2023 at 7:29 pm

    Plumbing hell here today. Drip, drip, drip from hot faucet handle on kitchen sink. All came down to a thin, plastic, threaded, anchoring ring on a 10 year old Delta faucet. No replacement part to be had. Ok, just my luck. Bought a new, pricey Moen to install. Have done it before, a pain in the ass, but pretty simple. Get the new one in place, turn on the water and it’s shooting out of the faucet base. WTF!? Go online to Moen. Find better schematics where I learned key, cheap, necessary parts were missing. An O-ring and a pressure ring. Not on the faucet, not in the box. No kitchen sink tonight. Back to Lowes in the morning.

  110. 110.

    Jackie

    September 2, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I agree! Spring – early/mid Fall I LOVE my clothesline! Folding as I take clothes off the line with no race to beat any wrinkles. I hang dry most of my shirts and pants in the winter months so I rarely have a stuffed full dryer. I have a shower rod hung in the laundry room.

  111. 111.

    Doc Sardonic

    September 2, 2023 at 7:45 pm

    @WaterGirl: Sorry to respond so far downthread, but mainly notice this on my iPad Pro. Also, it does this very infrequently.

  112. 112.

    Mousebumples

    September 2, 2023 at 7:46 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: haha, meanwhile, I have loads of kid silverware and grownup silverware, among other things, that fit up there. The flexibility is great!

  113. 113.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 2, 2023 at 7:47 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Also, I don’t get the hate of loading and unloading a dishwasher.  You put the stuff in dirty, you take it out again clean. The plates go here, the bowls go there, the glassware along there, the plastics up there…loading the dishwasher is the easy part of cleanup after a meal.  And unloading it rarely takes me more than three or four minutes.

    I should also mention that the dishwasher uses a LOT less water than washing by hand, if that’s a concern for anyone.

    It’s a big plus for us, because our septic system is failing – this is happening throughout our neighborhood, and we’re going to get sewer in a couple of years, but we’ve got to hang on until then. New dishwasher, new clothes washer*, new low-flow toilets and shower heads, have reduced our water use by about 1/3, and our septic system can keep up with it pretty well still.

    *A Samsung, and it’s a downright cheery appliance. For instance, it plays a happy little tune (which turned out to be from Schubert’s Trout Quintet) when a load is done.

  114. 114.

    Sure Lurkalot

    September 2, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    In our current house, we’ve had 4 dishwashers…the original one was replaced when we remodeled 2 years in and put in a GE Profile suite. Minor remodel 10 years later with GE Cafe suite. (I worked for a builder so we got steep discounts on appliances). The GE Cafe dishwasher lasted about 13 years (along with the refrigerator) and we replaced them both with Kitchenaid. The dishwasher is great, quiet, very clean dishes. The refrigerator is meh, the plastic parts seem cheap and flimsy. But it’s ridiculous that these items don’t last and often the cost of repair is prohibitive.

  115. 115.

    Jackie

    September 2, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That’s me! Takes just a few minutes while gazing out the kitchen window and daydreaming… Added plus – clean fingernails 😁

  116. 116.

    Jackie

    September 2, 2023 at 7:54 pm

    @Brachiator: TIFG is running to stay out of jail. Period. It’s why he announced over two years before Nov ‘24; he mistakenly thought once he formally announced his intent to run, he “couldn’t” be indicted. “Election Interference!”

  117. 117.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2023 at 8:03 pm

    @Mousebumples: My top siilverware shelf on my Bosch smelled bad, like bad plastic, and the smell would go away so I threw it out.  Tried to recycle it, but too much mix of plastic and metal.

  118. 118.

    wjca

    September 2, 2023 at 8:03 pm

    @Jackie: he mistakenly thought once he formally announced his intent to run, he “couldn’t” be indicted.

    Well, that’s what happens when you hire SFB lawyers.  Although, to be fair, that’s the only kind who would work for him as general legal advisors.  (Criminal defense lawyers are another story.  If they can get enormous fees paid up front, and non-refundable if they quit because he doesn’t follow their advice on his behavior, it might be possible to hire some competent ones.)

  119. 119.

    Jackie

    September 2, 2023 at 8:07 pm

    @Shana: “Every once in a while some clueless doofus on NextDoor posts about a wifi network named FBI Surveillance Van and should they be worried”

    My reply would be, “I dunno, should you be?”

  120. 120.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 2, 2023 at 8:09 pm

    @Another Scott: I currently  have a Panasonic one with a steel plate and a retractable cord and a removable water tank IIRC it was around $40 about 15 years ago

    So about $50 to $100 perhaps.

  121. 121.

    Kelly

    September 2, 2023 at 8:15 pm

    We’re across the river from a county park in deep red rural Oregon. Our wifi signal reaches there, weakly. Mrs Kelly would not let me rename our router to TrumpisaCrook in November 2016. Probably just as well

  122. 122.

    Jackie

    September 2, 2023 at 8:18 pm

    @Josie: OMG. My mom was a semi-professional bowler. ALL her bowling shirts were extravagantly embroidered and same method: sprinkle shirts, roll up then when ironing, put a folded cloth between the shirt and ironing board and steam iron over all the embroidered sections. No puckers allowed!

    I iron so little my steam iron is 40+ yrs old and still works beautifully. Most the time if something needs ironing I toss it in the dryer with a damp hand towel…😂

  123. 123.

    Librarian

    September 2, 2023 at 9:15 pm

    @trollhattan: Camper Van Beethoven is the name of a rock band.

  124. 124.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    September 2, 2023 at 9:16 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I generally loathe any housekeeping jobs, but I do like dishwashing.  Haven’t lived in a house with a dishwasher for decades.  Dishwashing is so simple and straightforward compared to vacuuming, dusting, or (shudder) decluttering.

  125. 125.

    Geoduck

    September 2, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    At least one person in my town uses “Bill Nye the WiFi”.

  126. 126.

    RaflW

    September 2, 2023 at 9:53 pm

    @trollhattan: That’s encouraging. We have window units now, so the roar is in the room (more of a tedious buzzing sound outside). The 2000 Trane furnace has a very noisy blower, too, that just ramps up to top speed fast, and that’s it.

    Definitely looking forward to a variable speed blower inside, and would love a quiet condenser (or heat pump equivalent term). Thanks.

  127. 127.

    Citizen Alan

    September 2, 2023 at 10:13 pm

    @John Cole:

    When I was living at my mom’s,  I had to goigle ‘”how to reboot a Whirlpool dishwasher.”

  128. 128.

    scott alloway

    September 3, 2023 at 1:48 am

    @trollhattan: Sub Zero does have an off/on swirch, IIRC. Cleaned a unit for a client twice, removing dust balls and other debris from the top filter. Motor on top, fancy-schmancy ice maker with line filter, bells, whistles, and god knows what else. Has lasted 20 years but they are SOOO pricey.​
    ​
    ​

  129. 129.

    RA

    September 3, 2023 at 9:40 am

    Same thing happened to us. Dishwasher died after 2 years. We had an appliance warranty so they came out to fix it several times, only to have it die in just a few days again. The last repairman told us that the problem was the electronic controls on the top edge of the door.  He said that all the steam vents out the top and that steam and electronics don’t play well together. Maybe your controls needed that much time to dry out so they worked again, in which case they will probably die again.
    If your dishwasher doesn’t have the controls on the top edge, never mind.

  130. 130.

    Embir

    September 3, 2023 at 2:19 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: My phone’s hot spot is Gates MRNA Chip Control Unit – Boo!

  131. 131.

    Embir

    September 3, 2023 at 2:23 pm

    If your high speed internet connection keeps dropping randomly the fix may be tamping the inbound signal down – the new modems that can work at at those speeds are finicky about signal strength. Drove me nuts for about 6 months, 2 visits from xFinity, before I found a suggestion to add about 12db of attenuators before it hits the modem.  Poof – problem fixed. You can get ‘em for about $10 on Amazon. Who knew that weakening the signal would make it more reliable?

  132. 132.

    Citizen Alan

    September 3, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    @Baud: Yes, yes, but was he a drag queen?

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