Fulton County Judge McAfee is creating a hellish charcuterie board, and the cheese doesn’t want to be paired with the crispy Kraken, but the judge says that’s too damn bad. (Daily Beast)
Attorney Kenneth Chesebro, the alleged architect of the so-called fake elector scheme launched in a frenzied attempt to keep former President Donald Trump in office, just can’t get away from Sidney Powell.
After ruling last week that the two will be tried together, Fulton County Supreme Court Judge Scott McAfee on Thursday further ruled that their trial will be conducted apart from Trump and 16 other co-defendants in the sprawling racketeering prosecution brought by District Attorney Fani Willis over attempts to subvert the state’s 2020 presidential election returns…
“Mr. Chesebro has never physically met Sidney Powell; Mr. Chesebro has never sent an email to Ms. Powell; Mr. Chesebro has never received an email from Ms. Powell; Mr. Chesebro has never called Ms. Powell; Mr. Chesebro has never received a phone call from Ms. Powell; Mr. Chesebro has never texted Ms. Powell; Mr. Chesebro has never received a text message from Ms. Powell; and Mr. Chesebro has never communicated with Ms. Powell through any social media or telecommunications application,” Chesebro’s motion stated. “In sum, there has never been any direct contact or communication between Mr. Chesebro and Ms. Powell. Similarly, there is no correlation or overlap between the overt acts or the substantive charges associated with Mr. Chesebro and Ms. Powell.
The defense lawyers consulted for the article (i.e., not affiliated with either coup plotter) imply the Cheese Bro is desperate to separate himself from the Kraken Lady because he expects a lot more damning evidence to emerge in her case and fears it will taint him in the eyes of the jury. Unfortunately for Cheese Bro, the judge interpreted his severance motion (and Kraken Lady’s much less vociferous one) as evidence that the risk of evidence overlap is minimal.
It’s starting to look like that speedy trial motion will not redound to Chesebro’s benefit. Womp-womp-womp-woooooomp!
Open thread.
cain
Fuck around and find out.
Also, this is what happens when you work for Trump.
Suzanne
@cain: Seriously. I will never understand why anyone willingly goes to work for him. Everyone gets stiffed!
piratedan
as long as we’re playing preferences and what people would like, I’m sure the judge would just as soon that they all pled guilty and we could then move on to the next step :-)
Geminid
@Suzanne: Trump had cur-risma.
Trivia Man
It is kind of funny to see the charts of who wants to join/ sever with whom based on individual actions. And there is some obvious advantage to talking about all the elector stuff together and all the machine stuff together.
but it’s a conspiracy- even if one never communicated with another specific defendant it is all in furtherance of THE CONSPIRACY
Trivia Man
I’m curious to hear other thoughts on the bit about starting early unless you formally file a waiver of speedy trial. Seems that waiver cuts off some possible future arguments.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@cain: Truth!!
trollhattan
@Suzanne:
Starstruck. It’s like voluntarily working for Jabba the Hutt, but there’s no explaining the draw of people who are famous for being famous.
I’ll bet Jabba stiffed his creditors, too. The Hutt Tax was ten space cents on the space dollar. And if he DID pay you, chances are he’d take it back after eating you.
Alison Rose
That statement sounds like a man denying he’s having an affair that he’s definitely having.
MattF
Chesebro wants many things. A speedy trial! But… not too speedy.
trollhattan
@Alison Rose: The phrase “physically met” does jump out at one.
Betty Cracker
@trollhattan: Yeah, that kinda stood out, yes?
HumboldtBlue
Dark Brandon out here bringing the smnoke!
Alison Rose
@trollhattan: Right? Feels like some intricate hair-splitting.
trollhattan
@HumboldtBlue: Oh hell, want!
For a dodderer (that a word?) Joe sure has a sly sense of humor, and the timing to know when to use it.
Old School
Well, he’s going to!
...now I try to be amused
While the Cheese won’t stand alone, at least he broke away from 17 of the Atlanta 19. Not a bad result in bicycle racing.
wjca
Well, probably not Ivanka. (And, by association, Jared.)
But otherwise, pretty much. Which is why it’s so hard for him to get competent and intelligent people to work for him. For example, any decent legal firm will demand full payment in advance. Which may explain part of the frantic fundraising. Especially if he as aware of yet more potential charges.
West of the Rockies
Shallow take: I find Cheesebro’s face and Powell’s face to be extremely unpleasant, a weird mix of arrogance, boredom, and general pissyness.
thruppence
Just got an email ad from the Biden/Harris merch team promoting their Dark Roast mug with aviator glasses Joe turning into laser eyed Dark Brandon with the addition of your hot beverage. Jaw droppingly corny, but I think I’m going to have to order one. Or two
ETA: HumboldtBlue got there first.
SiubhanDuinne
@Alison Rose:
It is almost Jesuitical in its specificity.
...now I try to be amused
@trollhattan:
It’s obvious Joe enjoys the Dark Brandon meme as much as we do.
SiubhanDuinne
@HumboldtBlue:
Oh gosh, what a great ad. What A Great Ad.
Alison Rose
@thruppence: I want one too, but dang, that’s a lot of money for a mug. I know it’s a donation to the campaign, but that’s doesn’t make it less money coming out of my bank account.
Those heat-changing mugs can be fun though. My mom once had a Star Trek one that, when cold, showed Kirk and Spock and a couple others standing on the transporter platform, and then when you poured in hot liquid, they got beamed up :P
wjca
What’s really needed is a mug of him without the dark glasses. Right up until it’s filled with a hot liquid; then the dark glasses appear.
ETA Thruppence got there first. Oops
Chris
@trollhattan:
Jabba can’t have lived that long by stiffing all his creditors. Boba Fett would have disintegrated his ass long ago if he’d pulled that on him, and probably wasn’t the only bounty hunter of whom that was true.
If only Trump had hired an intergalactic bounty hunter and treated him like every other creditor. We probably would’ve been rid of him back in the eighties or something. Think of all the suffering that could have ended right there.
NotMax
Two poles on the same axis of treachery.
Ken
Powell, Dec. 2020: “Fraud! Cheats! We need to find a way to overturn the election!”
Chesbro, Dec. 2020: “With this one weird legal trick, we can overturn the election!”
Chesbro, today: “What I did had nothing to do with what she did.”
lowtechcyclist
@HumboldtBlue:
I sympathize with the person who responded, “JOE STOP! I CAN ONLY FIT SO MANY MUGS IN MY CUPBOARD!” We’re in exactly that situation, I’ve got all sorts of cool coffee mugs I don’t want to part with, but there’s room for only so many. And as cool as this new Dark Brandon mug is, it costs $32 which is way more than I’m spending on a coffee mug.
I’ll just have to wear my Dark Brandon t-shirt more often.
Mai Naem mobile >44
@HumboldtBlue: i love that.
Chesebros is just a weird weird guy. He graduated from Harvard Law School and sounds like he decided not to go make big bucks. Married and divorced and moved to Puerto Rico with his new wife in 2020. I find the last part interesting. He was already a Trumper by then so I don’t see him going to Puerto Rico to do some good deed. I have to wonder if he got caught up on some grifting in the rebuilding of Puerto Rico post-Maria.
Hungry Joe
One of the odder and more compelling things about the upcoming televised trial will be Trump just sitting there, quiet and still, hour after hour. When was the last time he appeared in public and didn’t dominate the scene, make himself the center of attention, and spew droning, fantastical nonsense, all while receiving lickspittle adulation?
Will he even be able to walk into the courtroom, sit down, and shut up? I suspect he’ll manage it, but it’ll be something to see.
Old School
@trollhattan:
They both participated in Zoom calls?
NotMax
@trollhattan
Lawyers outclass stereotypical spinsters when it comes to embroidery.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Alison Rose: My spouse’s family still has that mug! (But it stopped working years ago)
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Old School: I thought that too. I wonder if zoom calls are recorded somewhere.
zhena gogolia
@trollhattan: He really does.
mrmoshpotato
I’m adding salami to these, and you can’t stop me! 😁😋👻
AJ of the Mustard Search and Rescue Team
Excellent womps, Betty 👍🏻
Gin & Tonic
Sucks to be him, eh?
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
That is brilliant.
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
Baloney the cold cut of choice for these miscreants.
jonas
@trollhattan: Turns out you can conspire to subvert an election over Zoom! Who knew?
WaterGirl
@Ken:
well done!
WaterGirl
@lowtechcyclist:
It’s a campaign donation, silly!
Miss Bianca
@HumboldtBlue: OMG. I never, ever, buy campaign swag but this one…this I think I might have to.
WaterGirl
@Hungry Joe:
Unless they drug the hell out of him, he will not be able to sit still. He will be constantly squirmy and fidgeting.
rikyrah
chris evans (@notcapnamerica) posted at 1:48 PM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
Kamala Harris has:
a 60% approval among voters under 30
a 79% approval among Democrats,
and a 74% approval among Black voters.
All of these are higher than Biden’s numbers with the same groups.
Stop playing with her. https://t.co/Nz2AhvQdhK
(https://x.com/notcapnamerica/status/1702756288600400283?t=YsNlp9cRYFWzbctKN-YYiA&s=03)
Miss Bianca
@Hungry Joe: Are you sure he’ll sit there quiet and still? I wonder if they would actually gag him if he started making his customary scenes.
Scout211
The Texas Senate has begun deliberations.
RandomMonster
I keep wondering — if these speedy trials end in convictions for Cheese and Krakers, will it motivate a bunch of the remaining conspirators to cop a plea?
rikyrah
Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) posted at 11:02 PM on Thu, Sep 14, 2023:
LOL Harris winning the California AG race by <1 point isn’t a sign that it was a tough race, it’s a sign she was a bad candidate. Here are winning margins for statewide Ds in CA that year. She’s a huge negative outlier.
+20.3
+19.1
+15.0
+13.0
+12.9
+11.2
+10.0
+0.8 (Harris)
marc (@MGsquared) posted at 8:55 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
.@NateSilver538, your profoundly uninformed take on Harris’ campaign against Steve Cooley not only undermines your credibility but raises serious questions about your character. Harris wasn’t just an underdog; she was significantly behind. Cooley was perceived as the victor. 1/
marc (@MGsquared) posted at 8:55 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
However, through meticulous groundwork and coalition-building—key moves for a candidate whose base constitutes a mere 6% of California voters—Harris surged like an Olympic sprinter.
Republicans were so unnerved that a deluge of funding started pouring in to tarnish her 2/
marc (@MGsquared) posted at 8:55 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
reputation. Ads portrayed her as soft on crime, a mischaracterization that later evolved into the ‘cop’ label from Bernie supporters. In reality, Harris was discerning in her approach. She opposed the death penalty, set limitations on three-strikes laws, stopped marijuana 3/
marc (@MGsquared) posted at 8:55 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
possession charges, and initiated programs like Back on Track.
Harris has the unique talent of transforming criticisms into strengths, a skill alluded to by Coco Gauff after her US Open victory. Contrary to what you may believe, y’alls prejudiced slights don’t weaken her; they 4/
marc (@MGsquared) posted at 8:55 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
fuel her resilience. It’s not just her policies or actions that you fear; it’s the concept of a Black Woman in power.
So, @NateSilver538 and others, continue to propagate your uninformed criticisms. Kamala Harris is not rising; she’s already here. DONE!
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| VP Kamala Harris is THEE GOAT! (@flywithkamala) posted at 0:43 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
LOL keep cherry-picking boo. Fact is she won TWO tight races and was elected to positions nobody that looked like her held ever before. Very easy of you to gloss over this fact with your hue but any race where the margin is less < 1 point is a tough race literally by definition.
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(@HopeisaBison) posted at 5:29 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
The national GOP threw the kitchen sink at her race… because they knew her potential. Turns out they were right.
I know you think a Black woman doing something that had never been done before was easy, but don’t rewrite history.
…………….
I am so glad that people are clowning Nate. he deserves it.
mrmoshpotato
@Suzanne:
Totally! The orange shitstain had a well-earned reputation as a conman and ripoff artist since the 1980’s!
rikyrah
Candidly Tiff (@tify330) posted at 11:41 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:![]()
Too many white people (especially reporters) keep talking in coded language about Kamala Harris. Last night @stuartpstevens called it out. Thank you! Josh & Nate are big mad
Here is my take, including VP’s electoral history. https://t.co/xqSllNlgG7
(https://x.com/tify330/status/1702724443322114408?t=utATFE6Oy7UUrHbf_Dsc0Q&s=03)
Jeffro
Almost certainly.
patrick II
Question.
When trying RICO participants in separate trials, is it necessary to show all of the conspiracy along with the individual charges to get a guilty verdict? I am sure that the more of the RICO hand the government shows in the first trial the better the odds for a conviction of Cheseboro and Powell. But the more you show the more the later conspiritants have a chance for an early peek at the evidence. Is it legal to hold back parts mostly irrelevant to these two? I understand you want to show enough to establish a conspiracy, particularly that evidence most relevant for these two. But is it legal to hold back some evidence for later advantage?
rikyrah
Oh my…where are the crowds for the Vice President?
These folks can’t be here to see her…can they?
Gabriel Uy (@GabrielUy46) posted at 11:01 AM on Fri, Sep 15, 2023:
>> @ncatsuaggies is READY to welcome @VP today for her #FightForOurFreedoms College Tour! https://t.co/6IvoFGizat
(https://x.com/GabrielUy46/status/1702714235581603948?t=cmug5U08Q3LzkH69zPW_uQ&s=03)
Hungry Joe
@rikyrah: “Will/should the President dump the V.P.?” is just a thing that they DO.* Like, “What if it’s a brokered convention? Let’s look at how that could play out.” Neither has come close to happening for a fistful of decades.
* Although they’re doing it to Kamala Harris WAY too gleefully.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@rikyrah: LaLaLaLaLaLa we can’t hear you! – MSM with white blinders on
wjca
Once the judge explains to him that his options are
a) sit down and shut up, or
b) be locked up in jail for the duration, with
c) being free to head out to campaign, play golf, etc., NOT being an option. Then yeah, I expect he will somehow manage to restrain himself. (Although it might take a day in jail to being the reality home first.)
Baud
@rikyrah: Doesn’t count unless they’re wearing red hats and their pick-ups have truck nuts.
...now I try to be amused
@Hungry Joe: Yep, people love their political fantasy.
I don’t see anyone suggesting one fantasy scenario, “What if the President resigns so the current VP can run as the incumbent?” I remember that one in the 2000 campaign.
Hungry Joe
@Miss Bianca: I think he’ll manage it — though, as Watergirl pointed out, there’ll be a lot of twitching and squirming. But a gag would be a nice touch, as would duct taping him to the chair.
NotMax
OT.
Maybe just me, but introducing an apparent 12-year-old as “senior weather and climate producer” made me snort.
wjca
IANAL, but isn’t there a “discovery” process which reveals the evidence to opposing counsel anyway? All a trial would do is show the public what the lawyers already know.
...now I try to be amused
@wjca: I’m guessing Trump will manage to shut up and sit (mostly) still, though his thumbs might twitch going through the motions of typing out the social media posts he will write after court adjourns for the day.
Alison Rose
On the one hand, you’ve got DeSantis kidnapping migrants and shipping them to various spots around the country and Abbott stringing razor wire across the river to try to keep them out.
On the other, you have this welcoming and loving video from Gov Newsom and the First Partner praising and shining a light on our Latino community (40% of the state!).
But idiots out there will still say they’re “independent” because “both sides are bad”. Yeah, sure. Okay.
(Also, I see people whine about in comments on various FB posts and such, but “First Partner” was the title Jennifer herself wanted. People think it was Newsom doing some kind of gender-woke stuff or whatever. No.)
eversor
@Chris:
Along your line logic the catch with Trump is we don’t know if he stiffed his criminal creditors. You can stiff a lawyer, a contractor, or even a bank and if you have the cash nothing will come of it. You cannot stiff the mob, a drug dealer, or a hitman as it’s not going to end well.
The fact that Trump did run in the criminal side of things for so long means he can’t have been stiffing those types and they are all interlinked.
His creditors in the dark are the ones I’m interested in.
Baud
@rikyrah:
He really does. That’s shockingly bad analysis. Barbara Boxer beat Carly Fiorina by only 10 (52-42) and Jerry Brown beat Meg Whitman by 13 (54-41). Their opponents were notoriously bad candidates. And 2010 was a bad year for Dems.
Alison Rose
@rikyrah: Love how Nate is pretending to be unaware that racism and sexism exist. Christ, what a dick.
Ocotillo
@rikyrah: Yeah, someone (don’t recall who exactly) had a column recomending Biden drop Kamala for Big Gretch. That would only result in demoralization of the key Biden demographics.
...now I try to be amused
Nate Silver is an object lesson in the seductiveness of a political pundit gig. He made his name with the approach of “Let’s cut the pundit BS and look at some hard numbers.” Which means he’s beclowned himself more than your standard political pundit.
Sure Lurkalot
From Uncle Ebeneezer in the morning thread:
Just bears repeating again and again.
Joe and Kamala are laser focused on the needs of America’s younger generations and this old lady is here for it. I’m hoping to smother the kids in postcards when the time comes. They may never have a president who has their interests in mind as much as Joe.
Ocotillo
@Ocotillo: Saw a later rikyrah post and see it was a Josh Barro tweet.
Miss Bianca
@Ocotillo:
That’s a nice diplomatic way to say “commit electoral suicide.” :)
WaterGirl
@patrick II: Fani’s office argued that they need to put on the WHOLE CASE for every trial. I suspect you have to go for broke on every case, otherwise you may not get convictions and that, I would think, would make it more likely that the other defendants could get off, too.
Jackie
@Trivia Man: Several have already waived away their speedy trial rights.
Many of those will flip against TIFG.
WaterGirl
@wjca: DRUGS. Trump will be totally drugged up, carefully managed, I imagine.
lowtechcyclist
@WaterGirl:
I know, but the Presidential campaign will have plenty of money. I prefer giving to races further down the food chain.
Yarrow
@Suzanne:
Completely agree. Maybe 50 years ago when people didn’t know him but anytime since the 1980’s why would ANYONE work for him? He’s got a terrible track record of nonpayment and leaving disaster in his wake. Why would anyone do it?
Redshift
@Suzanne:
I’m sticking with my theory that TFG is an alien with short-range mind control powers. But he’s a really stupid alien, so he always makes people do really stupid things.
Ken
If by “demoralization” you mean “provoke a rage with the heat of a thousand suns”, then yes….
Jackie
@Hungry Joe:
Tranquilizers
Yarrow
@Alison Rose:
He’s a well off middle-aged white man. Isn’t that kind of on brand?
wjca
I’m sure his lawyers would like him to be. Would even strongly recommend it. But we’ve seen repeatedly that he doesn’t much care for doing what someone else recommends. (With the occasional rare exception, e.g. Putin.)
Old School
@NotMax:
According to LinkedIn, he graduated high school in 2008, so he’s likely in his early 30s.
Not everyone ages like Ron DeSantis.
zhena gogolia
@NotMax: Looks like one of my students.
Lyrebird
And I am so glad that you are boosting the signal here!
Alison Rose
@Hungry Joe: If he did keep talking and interrupting the case, I would die a happy woman if the judge said “would you shut up man” à la Biden in the debate. I know he wouldn’t. But a bitch can dream.
Redshift
@wjca:
Discovery is the research notes, and the trial is telling the story. A list of facts alone isn’t what convinces a jury, especially in a conspiracy case, it’s weaving them together and showing how they relate to each other, to the defendants, and to the elements of the crimes.
That’s why it’ll be an advantage for the defense in the later trial(s). Of course, it’s entirely possible this is just a tactic for avoiding splitting the trials, and they won’t actually present exactly the same case.
lowtechcyclist
@Ocotillo:
Josh Barro. I think he’s even more worthless than Nate.
And switching running mates would be an absolutely terrible idea for a whole host of reasons, starting with Black people quite understandably feeling like they were being thrown under the bus to get White people’s votes.
Which is exactly the sort of thing Biden hasn’t done with any part of our coalition, and I’d bet a shitload of money he wouldn’t start now. He’s not that sort of person.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
The point isn’t to get Biden to do it. Everyone knows that’s a lost cause. The point is to make the ask, so that when Biden says no, people who have bought into the idea will be offended and discouraged. It’s the same thing that’s going on with Biden’s age — no one really expects he will drop out because of that.
Alison Rose
@lowtechcyclist: I didn’t read Barro’s column and have no desire to, because I don’t feel like lowering my own IQ a few points. But like…the admin would have to explain WHY they were doing this, and what reason could they possibly give that wasn’t just “we’ve decided to buy the media BS that people don’t like her so we’re tossing her overboard”. What, would they make Harris say she got bored with being VP and didn’t wanna do it anymore? She got a better job offer somewhere else?
Redshift
@Alison Rose: Well, I heard audio from a pre-trial proceeding where Powell’s lawyer (I think) was whining and complaining that in the trial date proceeding prosecutors had “lied about” his client and “defamed” her, and McAfee cut him off with “that is over, this is not the time to raise that.” So you never know.
Matt McIrvin
@Hungry Joe:
It’s up there with “Will he resign late in his second term just to give his VP a leg up?” and “The cross-party unity ticket!” and “Co-Presidents!” There’s something about the Vice-Presidency that particularly invites these scenarios.
In this case the basic fallacy is assuming that the switch is cost-free and it’s just like flipping to an alternate timeline in which the other candidate had been the choice all along.
Matt McIrvin
@Redshift: So, “Trump is the Mule in the Seldon Plan” is still viable.
...now I try to be amused
@Redshift:
Your theory sounds good to me, but I think of Trump as a bargain basement Satan. His marks all think they can make a deal with him and come out ahead. He must have some strong temptation powers.
Ken
Of course not. A judge would say “Bailiff, remove this person from the courtroom to a place of custody.”
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl:
And screaming that this would never happen in his beloved Russia.
NotMax
@Redshift
On the video said lawyer was playing to the cameras. Judge’s admonition, although not as bluntly put, amounted to “Not in my court you don’t. Clam up and sit your ass down.”
Redshift
@Baud: The other point is to appeal to Republicans. Joe is so obviously nice and harmless that it’s hard for them to get non-hardcore GOPers to hate him, so leadership and wingnut media is going hard at racism and misogyny with either he’s senile and she’s really running the show or he’s likely to die and then she’ll be in charge.
So Barro is laying the useful idiot and pretending that is he replaces her that would stop (so it’s “for the good of the country), when the reality is they’d just shift to a different kind of hate.
Alison Rose
@Ken: Maybe one of his lawyers will shove a whole hamburger bun in his mouth.
Redshift
@…now I try to be amused: That works, too.
AM in NC
I know it’s from the Daily Mail, but did y’all see the story that God-Fearing Family-values fascist Kristi Noem has apparently been having a years-long affair with Corey Lewandowsky?
What is up with these GOP women that so many of them seem to have gone to bed with that creep?
Bill Arnold
@Redshift:
Well, sort of, but (obligatory IMO :) he (well, his contracted [redacted]/parasite) is a local. A rather stupid [(evil)demon], in the Abrahamic religion schema. Still doesn’t understand why DJT (the host) lost in 2020. Does and says dumb stuff. Often slips and has the Trump mouth say “we”.
ETA this is the details-filled-in version of “…now I try to be amused” version.
See e.g. “The Rise of Io”, Wesley Chu for a fictional treatment of this. (Those are aliens (two camps), but refugees, that have been around since multicellular life.)
Or alternatively, he is controlled by an advanced cordyceps like parasitic fungus like the zombie ant fungus, with mind control powers. (Perhaps the hair is the fruiting body.)
Gin & Tonic
@AM in NC: Maybe he’s real good in the sack?
Ken
@Alison Rose: I was thinking a midazolam injection under the table, or maybe they’ll go straight for the phenobarbitol.
mrmoshpotato
@Alison Rose:
I still can’t believe that orange trash got a bunch of McTrashass’s for guests at the White House.
Miss Bianca
@Redshift:
I love this theory, if only because it adds fuel to my conviction that I would never, never ever, want to be in any closer proximity than 100 yards away from TIFG.
Bill Arnold
@Ken:
Or a Cone of Silence
eclare
@mrmoshpotato:
They were a bunch of predominantly Black athletes. Of course all they want are Big Macs and Quarter Pounders. Duh!
Old School
@AM in NC:
He seems to have hit on everyone, so maybe it’s a low percentage, but occasionally pays off.
rikyrah
Any of the FrontPagers want to do an extensive deep dive into the nightmare that is Project 2025?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/heritage-foundation-project-2025-trump-authoritarianism-our-land/
JPL
@AM in NC: The alleged affair was covered by the NYPost also. I assume that the gop members who they spoke with were headlined by Kari Lake and MTGreene
I haven’t read it, but add Vanity Fair to the list.
thalarctosMaritimus
@NotMax: I’m just sorry Patsy Baloney can’t be their co-defendant.
Yarrow
@Gin & Tonic: No way. He’s too much of a creep.
Betty Cracker
@AM in NC: Back when Nikki Haley was SC gov, there were persistent rumors that she was shagging a local wingnut blogger. I wonder if those stories will resurface now that she’s running for POTUS? Or maybe they already have — I don’t pay as much attention as I used to.
Bill Arnold
@Miss Bianca:
Yes, 100 meters appears to be the approximate max range, though it can be extended with binoculars, and even with Zoom. I suspect DJT is not capable of using either.
RaflW
re: Kamala. Josh Barro is a f**ing Republican. He’ll tell you he isn’t, because it’s embarrassing for a gay guy to be rooting for the party that hates him.
But he’s a conservative. Of that there’s no doubt. And there’s only one party in our duopoly for cons.
So, yeah, taking punditry from Barro? Never.
Betty Cracker
From NBC News:
Translation: prenup renegotiations are ongoing.
Ben Cisco
@AM in NC: Maybe he has a big…ego.
Yarrow
@Betty Cracker: For sure. Also, she’ll only make a few appearances.
Re that MTP interview, first, yuck. Kristen Welker is worse than I thought. But also, I accidentally saw a portion of a clip of TFG in that interview and he looks BAD. I mean really bad. He does not look like a well man.
Alison Rose
@Betty Cracker: Why the fuck was he even on the show. How many other multiply indicted criminals does MTP interview each week?
Scout211
@Betty Cracker: Ha Ha!
NBC keeps trying to generate interest in that Kristen Welker interview but each time they publish a tease, it’s just more of the same old, same old from TFIG.
“Pretty soon” Melania will be on the campaign trail and yesterday, asked if he will pardon himself he said, “not likely.”
My god, that ex-president, current indicted co-conspirator sure knows how to take a strong stand. LOL
Bill Arnold
@AM in NC:
Also the New York Post, which has done a little independent contacting of sources.
SD Gov. Kristi Noem having ‘absurdly blatant and public’ affair with ‘handsy’ Trump aide Corey Lewandowski, sources say (Emily Crane and Steven Nelson, Sep. 15, 2023)
bbleh
@HumboldtBlue: @thruppence: OMG it’s for realz!
It is SO nice to have a President with an obvious sense of humor.
eclare
@Scout211:
I think he “thinks” that if he doesn’t say anything in absolutes, he can never be held accountable for what he says.
Worked for 77 years, but those days are done.
wjca
Absolutely true. He would never, ever, be subjected to the ignominy of an actual trial. Just a straight shot to prison. (Or maybe a high window.)
Baud
@Scout211:
I’m more interested in what he says about pardoning the J6 defendants. Not that I would trust his response.
Ruckus
@Hungry Joe:
I doubt that SFB will be able to keep his mouth shut. Hopefully to his great detriment. He’s been a fourth rate stringer in the money race since he was a kid. He’s done little to make a lot of it, considering how much he started with and how long ago that was. As one of the financial papers showed a while back, he started with 400 million rather a long time ago and should have been able to be worth 15-16 billion now if he’d invested it even anywhere close to sensible. He’s failed at every turn and he’s supposedly worth around 2 billion but likely owing more than that. Being president was several billion miles outside his skill level, which I’d rate at maybe second grade.
And bottom of his class.
gvg
@Sure Lurkalot: Of course decades ago with Anita Hill and Clarance Thomas he screwed up badly with the same demographics. He had to screw up and learn from it first. Most people double down and deny they screwed up. They don’t sponsor laws to try and push back at misogyny later…after being yelled at by many women and hearing many stories.
Also watching Thomas votes from the courts and seeing the results on real people.
bbleh
@Ken: concur. But I have way more trust in Ol’ Handsome Joe than that
@Jackie: maybe just cut back on the Adderall a bit and sink into “Executive Time” stupor?
Jeffro
that’s pretty spot-on!
I’ve mentioned a few times that he’s made me question my own atheism, but time and reflection have helped me remember that he’s exactly who his followers want him to be, nothing more.
Scout211
@Baud: At the CNN town hall, he did answer that question, but it was more of the wishy-washy qualifiers that basically say nothing. link
Baud
@Scout211:
Thanks!
wjca
Just can’t see him doing that. Perhaps a couple high level ones, pour encourager les autres. But in general, unless someone has the goods on him (i.e. is a credible thread) or has some potential future utility, he wouldn’t bother.
Ruckus
@Hungry Joe:
But a gag would be a nice touch, as would duct taping him to the chair.
If they really wanted to they could use the duct tape as a gag. And I don’t mean gag as in funny. Duct tape his mouth shut.
WaterGirl
@lowtechcyclist: Josh Barro is a Republican. Since when do we listen to their suggestions about our candidates?
eversor
@AM in NC:
The dating pool in the GOP is slim on women and heavy on men. The elite GOP dating pool is even slimmer on both. Hence all the screams about redistribution of sex, cuteservatives, GOP can’t get dates in DC articles. Small pond with a few large fish.
MisterDancer
As much as I think it matters, it’s also a case of “how much horrific crap can I process and turn into readable material?”
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
The Birther Trophy Wife that nobody can understand when she talks.
ColoradoGuy
TFG has a very low tolerance for boredom. With no in-court access to social media, forced to keep silence for hours on end, and worst of all, not the center of attention, he’ll go nuts.
He’ll especially resent the judge being the person in authority, and not him.
rikyrah
@Alison Rose:
absolutely ridiculous.
rikyrah
@MisterDancer:
I know. But, this is the GOP blueprint – NO MATTER WHO IS THE NOMINEE.
WE need to put this out there for people to know about. To make it clear what they are getting if they vote GOP.
Jackie
@Gin & Tonic: But how does he GET them in the sack to begin with?
He and Jason Miller bring out my gag reflex just looking at them!
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@…now I try to be amused: @Redshift:
Or son of Satan. Daddy being the Lord of Lies checks out.
Jackie
@Yarrow: I noticed he’s kept his Mug rats nest hairstyle and the close ups show bloodshot eyes along with pink/red lower eyelids. He’s not sleeping well.
Sister Golden Bear
@rikyrah: Among other things, it recommends the new president declare trans/non-binary people to be inherently pornographic — and then born all porn.
Not that they’d use that to eradicate us for public existence or anything…
Jackie
@wjca: There’d be no reason to pardon them; he wouldn’t be able to run for Office again, so it’s not like he’d need their support anymore – but those pansies haven’t figured that out yet.
NotMax
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
Wait for the phone call.
;)
Gin & Tonic
@Jackie: Kissinger had it right – power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
Miss Bianca
@Bill Arnold: My God, I can’t imagine anything more nauseating than Right-Wing Monkey Lovin’. Just…gag me. (Not in a good way.)
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Redshift: That has the makings of an amusing short story
wenchacha
@Hungry Joe: Calling Judge Hoffman!