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Saturday Evening Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  September 16, 20237:03 pm| 155 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    September 16, 2023 at 7:12 pm

    I was hoping for two open threads.

  2. 2.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 7:14 pm

    @Baud: Well, technically the other thread is also open, it even says so in the title, but there was a lot of non-open-thread talk.

    So I thought I’d put this one up and throw it wide open.

    I suppose we could make this into two simultaneous open threads.  Even number comments could respond to one another, and odd number comments could talk among themselves.

    Are we sharp enough to pull that off?

  3. 3.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 7:15 pm

    I’m wondering if 7:15 is too early to go to bed.  I am exhausted.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    September 16, 2023 at 7:18 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I read a book like that once.  Two cities occupying the same space, and everyone in one city had to ignore the people in the other city.

  5. 5.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 7:19 pm

    I laughed myself silly over this video, although part of me was concerned there was something wrong with this birb. However, commenters seem to think the birb is just getting his rocks off against the perch. But the writhing and the music are so well-matched, and with the caption it just had me cackling to the point of tears. Sometimes I am easily amused

    (You may have to click the volume icon in the lower right to hear it.)

  6. 6.

    Nukular Biskits

    September 16, 2023 at 7:21 pm

    Good evening all!

    Sitting on the porch, enjoying a Southern Pecan ale, watching the hummingbirds fight.

  7. 7.

    eversor

    September 16, 2023 at 7:22 pm

    Boebert didn’t get kicked out for vaping.  She got tossed for jerking off her date while he was finger banging her in the theater.  And o’lord there are tapes.

    https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1702815514387444211?s=20

  8. 8.

    Nukular Biskits

    September 16, 2023 at 7:22 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Saw your earlier thread.

    I’d sooner have the flu than have one of my babies, human or fur type, sick.

    I empathize greatly.

  9. 9.

    MagdaInBlack

    September 16, 2023 at 7:24 pm

    @WaterGirl: From personal experience, no, it is not too early 😉

    ( I’m single and i live alone, there are no rules)

  10. 10.

    Yutsano

    September 16, 2023 at 7:24 pm

    @Alison Rose: ​That’s just birb being birb. Conures are known to be silly like that.

    As the Cougs are currently not couging it, I am going to nap for a bit.

  11. 11.

    Ben Cisco

    September 16, 2023 at 7:25 pm

    @Alison Rose: BWAHAAHAA

  12. 12.

    Yutsano

    September 16, 2023 at 7:25 pm

    @eversor: Not. Getting. Out. Of. The. Boat. Fuck your mangoes. :P

  13. 13.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 7:27 pm

    @Nukular Biskits:

    Southern Pecan ale 

    Sounds good.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    Only one episode into it but think I may be hooked.

    New on MHz Choice, Pandora, a Belgian legal/political drama. First episode so dense with plot I succumbed to rewinding so as not to miss details.

    And something which would probably never fly on American TV, a strong female lead (the investigating judge) with a head of long silver-gray hair.

  15. 15.

    Nukular Biskits

    September 16, 2023 at 7:31 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    I like it.  It’s not too heavy but I do have to be in the mood for it:

    Southern Pecan: The original brown ale brewed with roasted pecans

  16. 16.

    gwangung

    September 16, 2023 at 7:35 pm

    In less…risque…theatre news, my production, She Devil of the China Seas, apparently won Best Original Production (Community Theatre) from one the local reviewer organizations. Not quite the Tonys or Obies, but I’m pleased with it (even more so, given that I was the playwright).

  17. 17.

    Nukular Biskits

    September 16, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    @gwangung:

    Congrats!

  18. 18.

    Mike in NC

    September 16, 2023 at 7:38 pm

    We rolled into Hilton Head Island, So. Carolina a little while ago. Here for a few nights with family. No doubt Lindsey Graham has a mansion around here somewhere.

  19. 19.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 7:38 pm

    @gwangung: Mazel tov!

  20. 20.

    Rachel Bakes

    September 16, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    Daughter’s HS theater is doing “The Play that Goes Wrong” this fall. She’s an understudy plus the costume designer, and it’s me as one of her minions. My husband is designing and taking lead on building the (extremely complicated) set. Apparently our family is responsible for much of the physical appearance of this play. Good move for her Sr year but surprising what happens with a new director.

  21. 21.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 7:41 pm

    @Baud

    Both The City and the City (Freevee, Britbox) and Counterpart (no longer streaming free at the moment) do a fine job with a similar premise.

  22. 22.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 16, 2023 at 7:41 pm

    @WaterGirl: You can always tell yourself you’re going to read in bed.

  23. 23.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 16, 2023 at 7:42 pm

    @gwangung: Congratulations! That’s awesome.

  24. 24.

    MattF

    September 16, 2023 at 7:42 pm

    @Baud: The City & The City by China Miéville.

  25. 25.

    Another Scott

    September 16, 2023 at 7:42 pm

    @eversor: That clip is getting to be like “BTW, Biden is old!!”.   It’s been posted quite a few times.  ;-)

    She’s lucky that the screen and TV comedy show writers are still on strike.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  26. 26.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 7:42 pm

    @Baud: I read a book that if you positioned it one way, you got to hear “his” side of the events that were taking place, and if you flipped the book over, you read “her” side of the same events.

    Not the same, but really interesting!

  27. 27.

    eversor

    September 16, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Agree but it’s kinda funny.  The don’t sexualize kids group starting with some titties grabbing, followed by jerking, followed by finger banging in a theater with kids.

  28. 28.

    gwangung

    September 16, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    @Rachel Bakes: Oooohhh….that’s a challenge for a HS production. Actually, that’s a challenge for anybody from a midlevel theatre on down….good luck!

  29. 29.

    Another Scott

    September 16, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    @gwangung: Awesome.  Congratulations!

    Cheers!
    Scott.

  30. 30.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 7:44 pm

    Bahahaha bye bitch. I read some of that interview and was like, wow fuck off.

    Jann Wenner, the co-founder of Rolling Stone magazine, has been removed from the board of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, which he also helped found, one day after an interview with him was published in The New York Times in which he made comments that were widely criticized as sexist and racist.

    …

    But the dismissal of Mr. Wenner comes after an interview with The Times, published Friday and timed to the publication of his new book, called “The Masters,” which collects his decades of interviews with rock legends like Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger, John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen and Bono — all of them white and male.

    In the interview, David Marchese of The Times asked Mr. Wenner, 77, why the book included no women or people of color.

    Regarding women, Mr. Wenner said, “Just none of them were as articulate enough on this intellectual level,” and remarked that Joni Mitchell “was not a philosopher of rock ’n’ roll.”

    His answer about artists of color was less direct. “Of Black artists — you know, Stevie Wonder, genius, right?” he said. “I suppose when you use a word as broad as ‘masters,’ the fault is using that word. Maybe Marvin Gaye, or Curtis Mayfield? I mean, they just didn’t articulate at that level.”

    Only white men have ever had anything interest to say or do in rock music! Never mind the fact that much of rock and roll was adapted by white people from Black people.

    Another quote from the interview:

    The selection was intuitive. It was what I was interested in. You know, just for public relations sake, maybe I should have gone and found one Black and one woman artist to include here that didn’t measure up to that same historical standard, just to avert this kind of criticism. Which, I get it. I had a chance to do that. Maybe I’m old-fashioned and I don’t give a [expletive] or whatever.

    Piss off.

  31. 31.

    gwangung

    September 16, 2023 at 7:44 pm

    @Nukular Biskits:

     

    @Alison Rose:

     

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Thanks, folks. I think I’m justified in a little bragging on this….

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 7:45 pm

    @gwangung: That’s so great!

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 7:45 pm

    @Rachel Bakes

    building the (extremely complicated) set

    Understatement of the month, that. Saw it onstage in NY several years ago.

  34. 34.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    September 16, 2023 at 7:49 pm

    My sisters saw “Jagged Little Pill” last night.  Maybe boebert and her date thought they were at that show.  Would you go down on him in a theater?

  35. 35.

    Suzanne

    September 16, 2023 at 7:50 pm

    @gwangung: Oooooh congrats!

  36. 36.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 16, 2023 at 7:50 pm

    @gwangung: ​ 

    Who the hell gives a damn about the Tony’s?

    Congrats!

  37. 37.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    September 16, 2023 at 7:51 pm

    It sounds like Kristen Welker’s debut as the new host of Meet the Press will be a major league disaster:

    ‘Sold Her Soul’: #BoycottMeetThePress Trends Big Over Welker’s Trump Interview

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/sold-her-soul-boycottmeetthepress-trends-big-over-welkers-trump-interview/

    Dan Froomkin (PressWatchers.org) @froomkin

    6:00 PM · Sep 15, 2023

    https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/1702804483657392302

    In these clips, Trump utters about 30 different lies, and there’s zero pushback from Kristen Welker, who instead calls him “fired up” and “defiant” – and “the president.”  This is, actually, worse than the CNN town hall in terms of normalizing a maniac.

  38. 38.

    Suzanne

    September 16, 2023 at 7:52 pm

    @eversor: I never cease to be amazed by how some people behave in public. Just blows my mind. Like, do that shit in a bar.

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 7:52 pm

    @gwangung

    Huzzah!

  40. 40.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 7:56 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca: When I first heard that she had him on, I was like 1) why, and 2) this is gonna be a shitshow. She’s one of those reporters who loves to toss out baseless snide little questions at the press secretary and seems to think she’s being a Hard-Hitting Journalist.

  41. 41.

    OHJo

    September 16, 2023 at 7:56 pm

    @WaterGirl: Wondering the same…Mr. OHJo and I (ages 67 and 70) just finished scraping, sanding and staining a large deck, and are limping and hobbling around like old people! Imagine! Last time we do that!

  42. 42.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 7:58 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    You can always tell yourself you’re going to read in bed.

    Watch something on Netflix or listen to a podcast.  Excellent idea.  I will shower and then run off to watch (or listen to) something on my adorable new iPad mini.

    Saturday Evening Open Thread 1

  43. 43.

    OHJo

    September 16, 2023 at 7:59 pm

    @gwangung: Bravo!

  44. 44.

    prostratedragon

    September 16, 2023 at 7:59 pm

    @Alison Rose:  Not to mention the side-eye from the other bird.😁

  45. 45.

    gwangung

    September 16, 2023 at 8:00 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I can truthfully say that my senior year college dorm has now produced two award winning playwrights.

  46. 46.

    JaySinWA

    September 16, 2023 at 8:01 pm

    @gwangung: What could go wrong? I mean if something goes wrong, the title has got you covered.
    “I meant to do that

    ETA Congrats on your award.

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    @Alison Rose: I was thinking “you fucking pig”, but yours works, too.

    Perhaps “Piss off, you fucking pig” could work ??

  48. 48.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 16, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    @gwangung: There must have been something in the water.

  49. 49.

    prostratedragon

    September 16, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    @gwangung:  Hey-hey, congratulations!

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 8:03 pm

    @OHJo: That’s a big job, regardless of age.  I bet it looks fabulous.

  51. 51.

    Nukular Biskits

    September 16, 2023 at 8:04 pm

    Getting dark.  Hummers probably going to bed down soon.

    I haz a sad.

    Still, it’s nice out here on the porch tonight, quite a departure from the hellish heat from just a couple of weeks ago.

  52. 52.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 8:04 pm

    @WaterGirl: Indeed it does.

  53. 53.

    prostratedragon

    September 16, 2023 at 8:12 pm

    @Alison Rose:  An old story with that dude, who’s always been transparent there. Too bad most of his subjects don’t deserve the association.

  54. 54.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 8:16 pm

    @Another Scott: It’s much better than “Biden is old!” It can be posted a few thousand more times.

  55. 55.

    Miss Bianca

    September 16, 2023 at 8:19 pm

    @gwangung: Yay! I wish I had a million dollars, I would love to bring your production to my theater.

  56. 56.

    eversor

    September 16, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    @Suzanne:

    I dunno most bars I go to would toss you for that as well.  Now I do know a few late hour clubs where you can do that, or just strip and do it on stage and people will cheer for you….

  57. 57.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    and remarked that Joni Mitchell “was not a philosopher of rock ’n’ roll.” 

    Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell need to write a song about what an asshole this dude is.

  58. 58.

    Ben Cisco

    September 16, 2023 at 8:23 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca: I kinda felt that anyone NBC would put on the air to replace Chuckles the Toad was gonna suck, and BOY HOWDY they lived down to my worst expectations.

  59. 59.

    Miss Bianca

    September 16, 2023 at 8:23 pm

    @Rachel Bakes: In other theater news, looks like I will be directing (and likely acting in, God love me) an all-female cast, Steampunk-themed version of Gaslight for our Halloween production. YEE-HAW!!

  60. 60.

    Miss Bianca

    September 16, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    @Rachel Bakes: Dupe

  61. 61.

    Miss Bianca

    September 16, 2023 at 8:29 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: The nerve of that there prick. Joni Mitchell will be remembered long after you’re dead, gone, and forgotten, dude.

  62. 62.

    Frankensteinbeck

    September 16, 2023 at 8:31 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    an all-female cast, Steampunk-themed version

    I have no idea what Gaslight is, and after that introduction I am already hooked.

  63. 63.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 8:31 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: It’s a Hitchcock film.

  64. 64.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    @zhena gogolia:
    JL Cauvin has outdone himself. “Beetlejuice!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o46sM2T-LCQ

  65. 65.

    TurnItOffAndOnAgain

    September 16, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I read a book that if you positioned it one way, you got to hear “his” side of the events that were taking place, and if you flipped the book over, you read “her” side of the same events.

    Not the same, but really interesting!

    Only Revolutions by Mark Z. Danielewski. Same dude who did House of Leaves.

    And I read Un Lun Dun by China Miéville when I was a kid. Still revisit it sometimes. It’s fun.

  66. 66.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    @WaterGirl: No, George Cukor, remake of a Thorold Dickinson film.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    @TurnItOffAndOnAgain: I haven’t read either of those, but I would definitely read a book with that setup again.

  68. 68.

    Nukular Biskits

    September 16, 2023 at 8:34 pm

    Seriously. WTF is wrong with these people?

    Days after Hunter Biden was indicted, a reporter shouted “Mr. President, will you pardon your son?” as Biden exited the Wilmington church where his son Beau is buried. Biden did not answer.

    https://x.com/MerylKornfield/status/1703167571564929253?s=20

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 8:34 pm

    @zhena gogolia: How do you know that?

  70. 70.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: It’s based on a stage play, I think it was called East Lynne [just looked it up, it’s Angel Street]. This guy tries to make his wife think she’s insane by constantly turning the gaslight lamps down (and other pranks). It’s where the term “gaslighting” originated. Ingrid Bergman and Charles Boyer play it to the hilt. Anton Walbrook is almost too scary in the earlier version.

  71. 71.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 16, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    @Baud: The City and The City? That was a fun one

  72. 72.

    Jackie

    September 16, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    Apparently Boebert’s new beau owns a gay-friendly bar……..that has hosted at least one drag show:

    A bar owned by Rep. Lauren Boebert’s apparent new beau has staged at least one drag show, according to a review of social media posts.

    In January, the Hooch Craft Cocktail Bar in Aspen, which is co-owned by Quinn Gallagher, staged “a winter Wonderland Burlesque & Drag Show,” an invitation for the event reveals.

    https://nypost.com/2023/09/16/lauren-boeberts-new-man-owns-gay-friendly-bar-which-hosts-drag-shows/

    Let’s all sit back and enjoy watching her GQP cohorts try spinning this – on top of her not-for-family-viewing public antics the other night.

  73. 73.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 8:36 pm

    @WaterGirl: I adore Anton Walbrook. And Charles Boyer.

    ETA: But I had to look up who the directors were.

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 8:36 pm

    @WaterGirl

    Not Alfred. Gaslight was directed by George Cukor. Film based on an earlier play.

  75. 75.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 16, 2023 at 8:36 pm

    @gwangung: ​ 

    You know why?

    Cuz you’re awesome, that’s why.

  76. 76.

    M31

    September 16, 2023 at 8:37 pm

    @TurnItOffAndOnAgain: Un Lun Dun is great! haven’t read it in a long time, want to revisit

    I can’t really do horror, so Mieville’s other stuff isn’t for me

  77. 77.

    M31

    September 16, 2023 at 8:39 pm

    @Jackie: GOP spin: “See, the drag show did it! Evil drag show guy tricked our innocent angel!”

    lol

  78. 78.

    Dan B

    September 16, 2023 at 8:39 pm

    @gwangung:  Big congratulations!  Bravo!

  79. 79.

    kalakal

    September 16, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    @gwangung: Congrats!

  80. 80.

    JoyceH

    September 16, 2023 at 8:51 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Sigh. Though the movie was called Gaslight, Boyer wasn’t tinkering with the gaslights to make Bergman think she was crazy. He was doing other things to make her think she was crazy so she would believe the flickering gaslights were also a delusion.

    Unlike electricity, with gaslight the lights will flicker if someone turns on a light in another room. She was seeing the flicker when apparently alone in the house, but actually he was turning on the light in the boarded up part of the house, searching for her deceased aunt’s fortune in jewels.

  81. 81.

    kalakal

    September 16, 2023 at 8:52 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Yay for you! It’s a great story

  82. 82.

    kalakal

    September 16, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    @Alison Rose: Wenner’s always been a total arsehole.

  83. 83.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    @JoyceH: Sorry I don’t meet your standards for accuracy!

  84. 84.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    In other theater news, looks like I will be directing (and likely acting in, God love me) an all-female cast, Steampunk-themed version of Gaslight for our Halloween production. YEE-HAW!! 

    That! Is! AWESOME! 👏

  85. 85.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 9:04 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: 10/10 would listen.

  86. 86.

    prostratedragon

    September 16, 2023 at 9:04 pm

    zhena gogolia@70: It’s even worse than that. The gaslights would flicker because he was elsewhere on the same fuel line doing some nefarious business. He knew she’d notice and remark on it, so the other pranks were to undermine her but also make anything she said seem unreliable to the household help. Both versions are great, but in my view you can’t beat Boyer’s feigned — I don’t know, stupidity — for proving what a higher moral being Paula is at the end.

    Mexican Independence Day co-incided with headphone break-in day: Danzon No.2, Marquez; at the Proms.

  87. 87.

    Joy in FL

    September 16, 2023 at 9:05 pm

    @Baud: The City and The City, right? I listened to the audio book of it. I even looked forward to my commute while I was listening to it. I loved that story, and the narrator was perfect.

  88. 88.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 9:06 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Right?? I was blessed to see her in concert once and she was amazing. I was around 15 I think, and I remember being in tears at one point just because her performance was so moving and beautiful.

  89. 89.

    Joy in FL

    September 16, 2023 at 9:07 pm

    @gwangung: That’s awesome. I remember watching a Zoom performance during Covid and liking it and the players.

  90. 90.

    JoyceH

    September 16, 2023 at 9:10 pm

    @zhena gogolia: the reason that I started with a sigh was because I see that explanation for the term gaslighting over and over in very respectable publications. Makes me go, “guys, watch the movie!” The term comes from the title of the movie, not from the action of light tinkering.

  91. 91.

    wjca

    September 16, 2023 at 9:13 pm

    @M31: GOP spin: “See, the drag show did it! Evil drag show guy tricked our innocent angel!”

    Better spin: “This was a false flag operation!  A secret operative (and groomer and faggot lover) seduced our heroine!  People say he works for the Biden Crime Family!”

    Actually, it will likely be even more ridiculous that that.  But I lack the reality-challenged imagination of the MAGAts.

  92. 92.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 9:13 pm

    @Alison Rose: Do you know about Joan Baez’s Nasty Man?

  93. 93.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 9:15 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Oh yes, I remember that one!

  94. 94.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 9:22 pm

    @JoyceH: I haven’t seen it in a while. I misremembered.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 9:23 pm

    @zhena gogolia: But how did you know it was based on that and not on the Hitchcock movie Gaslight?

  96. 96.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    September 16, 2023 at 9:24 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    In addition to being my two favorite female singers, Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell are two of the most thoughtful and intelligent interview subjects.

    Jann Wenner proves once again that he does not know what the fuck he’s talking about.

  97. 97.

    Kathleen

    September 16, 2023 at 9:25 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca: She may have sold her soul (like most of her peers in Beltway Political Pundlandia Land) but she is doing her job. We need to understand our concept of “their jobs” is totally at odds with what their master deem “their jobs”, and the masters pay them.

  98. 98.

    Kathleen

    September 16, 2023 at 9:27 pm

    @Ben Cisco: Absolutely. While I find 99% of the people on camera to be execrable, they are also doing what they are told. Their replaceable cogs. Which none of them understand.

  99. 99.

    Kathleen

    September 16, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    @Nukular Biskits:  The ratio is epic. The tweet had a definite “Look Mommy! I pee peed in the toilet” vibe.

  100. 100.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    @WaterGirl

    As delineated above, Hitchcock had no connection to Gaslight.

  101. 101.

    twbrandt

    September 16, 2023 at 9:31 pm

    Bebe Neuwirth on Bluesky:

    Apropos of nothing in particular, but just in case anyone’s wondering – Yes, from the stage, we can pretty much see anyone in the orchestra seats.

  102. 102.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 9:31 pm

    @WaterGirl: Whatchoo talkin’ about Willis? :)

    ETA – I’m seriously curious about which of the Master of Suspense’s movie you’re thinking about.

  103. 103.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 9:37 pm

    @WaterGirl: There is no Hitchcock movie Gaslight. Are you thinking of Rebecca? Or Spellbound, which also stars Ingrid Bergman?

  104. 104.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 9:37 pm

    @mrmoshpotato

    A mish-mash of Suspicion and Rebecca?

  105. 105.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 9:39 pm

    @twbrandt: Heh heh

  106. 106.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 9:39 pm

    @NotMax: It’s definitely a Hitchcockian movie, but not a Hitchcock movie.

    ETA: And Joseph Cotten is also in it, another fave of Hitch’s.

  107. 107.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 9:40 pm

    @Alison Rose: I am inordinately enjoying this Boebert story.

  108. 108.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 9:42 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I am too, although I’m annoyed that all she has to do is sniffle like a little girl and cry about her divorce and how she “fell short of her values” and people will forget about it. Even though she spends 99% of her waking hours calling trans people and drag queens pedophile groomers who shouldn’t be around kids, while she’s getting to second base in public with kids mere feet away from her.

  109. 109.

    Ken

    September 16, 2023 at 9:44 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:  I’m seriously curious about which of the Master of Suspense’s movie you’re thinking about.

    A Hitchcock movie in which a woman is subjected to horrible treatment by a manipulative man in a position of power over her? So many to choose from…

    Oh, wait, you mean in the plot of the movie, not as an actress working with Hitchcock.

  110. 110.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 9:44 pm

    @NotMax: Hehe.  Respicionecca?

  111. 111.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 9:44 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    Hitch’s go-to male “cool blond.”
    ;)

  112. 112.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 9:47 pm

    @Ken: Do you want me to slap your sarcastic ass with your own bones?

  113. 113.

    KrackenJack

    September 16, 2023 at 9:51 pm

    @gwangung: ​
     Congratulations indeed! Hope we get to see it in wide production!

  114. 114.

    Jackie

    September 16, 2023 at 9:57 pm

    @Alison Rose: I’m fantasizing the pregnant woman who complained about the vaping also files a complaint that Boebert and boyfriend harmed her baby by exposing it to sexual acts.

    Said semi-tongue-in-cheek as the GQP claim sperm meets egg = a human being capable of emotion who was forced to witness such scandalous behavior!

  115. 115.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 16, 2023 at 9:58 pm

    John R Parkinson @jparkABC 3h
    As President Biden left church, I shouted quite loudly across the cemetery, “Mr. President, will you pardon your son?!” But Biden did not visibly react or acknowledge the question.

    this isn’t Fox or Newsmax or that weird guy who writes for shady African wire service. This is an ABC reporter bragging about shouting a stupid question at Biden “across the cemetery”, the cemetery where (per the replies) Biden visits the graves of his first wife, elder daughter, and elder son after mass whenever he’s in Delaware.

    The ratio, as the kids say, is 9,500 replies, most of them quite unfriendly, to 270 likes.

  116. 116.

    Nukular Biskits

    September 16, 2023 at 9:59 pm

    @Kathleen:

    I seriously can’t believe the absolute tone-deafness here, the “need” to go beyond the bounds of basic decency, all to get a quote.

  117. 117.

    Geminid

    September 16, 2023 at 9:59 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca: He also could have interviewed Laura Nyro, before she got sick. She would have had a lot to say. Although Laura Nyro might not have given Wenner an interview if he’d asked.

  118. 118.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 10:00 pm

    @Jackie: Oh man. That would be excellent.

  119. 119.

    Alison Rose

    September 16, 2023 at 10:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    The ratio, as the kids say, is 9,500 replies, most of them quite unfriendly, to 270 likes.

    LOLLLL. Well-deserved. I wish Biden had flipped him the bird. “Pardon this, Jack.”

  120. 120.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 10:04 pm

    @NotMax: Gaslight was a Hitchcock film.

    edit: I thought Gaslight was a Hitchcock film.

  121. 121.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 10:05 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Okay, I googled and I guess I was wrong.

  122. 122.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 10:06 pm

    @WaterGirl

    Not in this universe.

  123. 123.

    Geminid

    September 16, 2023 at 10:11 pm

     

    @WaterGirl: No. 7:15 is not too early to go to bed.

  124. 124.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 10:13 pm

    @WaterGirl: No worries. :)

  125. 125.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    September 16, 2023 at 10:13 pm

    @Geminid:

    I agree and Laura Nyro died way too soon.

    It would be nice if someone could seize this opportunity and publish a book of interviews with women and African Americans whom Jann Wenner deemed unworthy such as Chrissie Hynde, Stevie Nicks, Marianne Faithfull, Judy Collins, Maureen Tucker, Patti Smith, Sheryl Crow just to name a few.

  126. 126.

    Sister Golden Bear

    September 16, 2023 at 10:19 pm

    @gwangung: Congratulations!

  127. 127.

    zhena gogolia

    September 16, 2023 at 10:20 pm

    @Alison Rose: We’ll see what happens.

  128. 128.

    Geminid

    September 16, 2023 at 10:22 pm

    @WaterGirl: I mean, I’m glad you are still up and around. But in this time of seasonal change, it’s important to stay well rested.

  129. 129.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 10:26 pm

    @Geminid:

    I mean, I’m glad you are still up and around. But in this time of seasonal change, it’s important to stay well rested.

    There are football and baseball  to watch – and movies to argue about!

    :)

  130. 130.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 10:31 pm

    @mrmoshpotato

    One could nurse quite the buzz by knocking back a shot each time Boyer utters “Powla” in Gaslight.
    :)

  131. 131.

    WaterGirl

    September 16, 2023 at 10:33 pm

    @Geminid: I apparently got my second wind.

  132. 132.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    September 16, 2023 at 10:35 pm

    @eversor: ​
      Only the best people

  133. 133.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    September 16, 2023 at 10:41 pm

    I’ve seen “Beetlejuice”, it’s a horror comedy musical. At no point does it trigger carnal inspiration.

  134. 134.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 10:43 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    Diff’rent, um, strokes for diff’rent folks.
    //

  135. 135.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 16, 2023 at 10:47 pm

    this thread has me trying to decide if I want to watch an old BW movie or rewatch Beetlejuice

  136. 136.

    Scout211

    September 16, 2023 at 10:49 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:I’ve seen “Beetlejuice”, it’s a horror comedy musical. At no point does it trigger carnal inspiration.

    Not even like This?

    AL teased a late night Boebert thread. Boebert’s congressional decorum deserves its own thread! Waiting . . .

  137. 137.

    Jackie

    September 16, 2023 at 10:50 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: You can only speak for yourself 😉

  138. 138.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 10:56 pm

    FYI.

    Maui police revise Lahaina wildfire death toll to 97; list of unaccounted for drops to 31.

    Also,

    Unified Command has complete the search for sunken, derelict or displaced vessels, along with associated marine debris from the Aug. 8 Lahaina fire, and has identified 78 “targets,” according to the US Coast Guard.

    A target could be a sunken vessel or a large piece of marine debris.
    [snip]
    The contract workers will assess the harbor and develop a plan — to be reviewed and approved by the Coast Guard — to remove hazardous materials and submerged vessels.

    Once that step is complete, the contractor will remove identified hazardous materials, fuels and oil in preparation for removal of submerged vessels out of the harbor, with Coast Guard oversight. Source

    To measure the longterm affects of the Lahaina fire on nearby ocean waters, scientists are using three sophisticated sampling instruments that are on loan from the US Geological Survey.

    The devices allow pollutants and toxins like heavy metals and pharmaceuticals to slowly slip inside a membrane and accumulate over time.

    “This mimics what a living creature like coral or fish would absorb,” said Russell Sparks, an aquatic biologist with the state Division of Aquatic Resources. “When the samples are analyzed, we’ll have a much better idea of what the reefs are being exposed to as a result of this fire.”
    [snip]
    Based on visual observation, Sparks said the water quality inside the harbor is “horrible.” Source

  139. 139.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    September 16, 2023 at 10:58 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ​
      which old BW movie, “The Roaring Twenties” or “White Heat”?

  140. 140.

    tam1MI

    September 16, 2023 at 11:07 pm

    A (literal) sign that the Biden Administrations gets it.

  141. 141.

    eclare

    September 16, 2023 at 11:09 pm

    @tam1MI:

    Nice.

  142. 142.

    Jackie

    September 16, 2023 at 11:10 pm

    Entertaining read from Political:

    The government is barreling toward a shutdown. House Republicans threaten to impeach the president — though some of them don’t see the evidence. A Republican senator has a one-man blockade on military promotions with no end in sight.
    The Capitol is in crisis. And though Democrats control much of the government, Republican divisions are driving the chaos.
    snip
    “We need to eliminate preventable errors, and we’re not doing that,” Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said of her party.
    On policy issues such as inflation, energy and the border, she argued, Republicans have positions “that are very good to be used for a political campaign. But they are getting smothered over by issues that are unhelpful or people don’t care about.”
    snip
    And as Congress barrels toward all-out gridlock, Republicans are growing more frustrated about their lack of a cohesive plan to use their threadbare House majority to stare down President Joe Biden and Hill Democrats.
    Summing up the lack of a GOP spending strategy, Idaho Rep. Mike Simpson opined: “It’s stupid.”
    “We’ve been seeing this coming for the last three or four months. I just didn’t think we were dumb enough to get there,” he said.
    It’s not just House Republicans who are clogging things up. Tuberville refuses to give up his holds on hundreds of military promotions, protesting a Pentagon policy allowing service members time off to seek abortions.

    Democrats could push through some of the top nominations individually but have declined to do so, warning that it could set a precedent of inaction on lower-level military promotions.
    That leaves some House Republicans steaming mad.
    Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas), a former Navy SEAL officer, said in a text message to allies that he’s “at a point where I’m going to tear apart (if asked) coach/Senator/non-veteran Tuberville for personally attacking service members who have spent almost 30 years serving our country.”
    “I don’t know what outcome he expected,” Crenshaw added of Tuberville, “but I’m hearing more and more that his actions are having worsening consequences.”
    Tuberville disputes that his holds are having serious consequences. His office declined to respond to Crenshaw.
    At the moment though, the imminent government funding deadline is Congress’ biggest problem. Halfway through September, Speaker Kevin McCarthy has no obvious plan to escape the month without triggering a shutdown that his own members fear could endanger his party’s position — and perhaps even the speaker’s own job — going into the pivotal 2024 election.
    Even McCarthy’s surprising leap toward an impeachment inquiry this week failed to quell the hard-right rebellion.

    Much more at the link: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/15/government-shutdown-congress-gop-00116066

  143. 143.

    Jackie

    September 16, 2023 at 11:11 pm

    @tam1MI: Excellent!

  144. 144.

    Timill

    September 16, 2023 at 11:24 pm

    Much great music sounds familiar. This, however, is different. Not because it’s not familiar….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPcW8yf9GaA

  145. 145.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 16, 2023 at 11:27 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    I’ve seen “Beetlejuice”, it’s a horror comedy musical. At no point does it trigger carnal inspiration.

    Handjobbert is a ho.  You don’t know what she’s into!

  146. 146.

    NotMax

    September 16, 2023 at 11:43 pm

    Yummo.

    Just took a loaf of port wine & bleu cheese bread out of the super duper bread machine. Cottage smells divine.

  147. 147.

    wjca

    September 16, 2023 at 11:49 pm

    @tam1MI: A (literal) sign that the Biden Administrations gets it.

    No doubt TIFG is (puke) green with envy.  How many projects were there ever with his name up in lights (naturally there would have to be lights; garish ones) on them???

    Of course, if you never get around to actually doing the infrastructure you kept talking about, that’s liable to result in a distinct lack of projects to label.  (Maybe he should have tried rebranding Obamacare.  Seems like his style.)

  148. 148.

    prostratedragon

    September 16, 2023 at 11:52 pm

    Courtesy of blog fave Vivek Ramaswamy, a reminder that the universe gets a vote: It’s SIGN!
    (Possible repeat)

  149. 149.

    cain

    September 16, 2023 at 11:57 pm

    @gwangung: congratulations!! 🎉🎉

  150. 150.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 12:01 am

    @Alison Rose:

    They never learn and then they sully their reputation.

    Keep leaning into those MAGA assholes.

  151. 151.

    thalarctosMaritimus

    September 17, 2023 at 12:30 am

    @gwangung: Congratulations!

  152. 152.

    Rachel Bakes

    September 17, 2023 at 6:04 am

    @Miss Bianca:  Wow! That’s intriguing. Break a leg, merde, and all the rest.

  153. 153.

    RogeBrian

    September 17, 2023 at 6:48 am

    @JaySinWA:

    Rachel’s husband here: one of the discussions in the set build is how much to overbuild the sets since they have to fall over vs how much it would hurt to get hit by the falling set.  But we will teach the kids to soldier on

    @JaySinWA:

  154. 154.

    LiminalOwl

    September 17, 2023 at 7:42 am

    @gwangung: Congratulations! I really regret that I was unable to see it.

  155. 155.

    Miss Bianca

    September 17, 2023 at 9:56 am

    @Wyatt Salamanca: Way, way late back to this thread, but you might enjoy a great compilation of women rock/pop/rap critics called Rock, She Wrote.Their subjects aren’t exclusively women artists, but there’s plenty of diversity there!

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