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DC Indictment News

Who would have thought, even just a few years ago, that I would find any legal documents interesting reading?  I guess that was back in the olden days when most of us had no idea what a MINUTE order was.

This is the Jan 6 case in DC with Judge Chutkan that is set to start in March.

QUICK CHEAT SHEET

Classified docs case
The Jack Smith case with Judge Loose Cannon in FL, with all the delays.

Jan 6 case
The Jack Smith case with Judge Chutkan in DC set to start in March, with a partial gag order.

Civil case in NY (please take all his properties!)
The Tish James case with Judge Engoron in NY, going on now, also with a partial gag order and the assistant that Trump hates.

Fake Electors RICO case
The Fani Willis case with Judge McAfee in GA, with 4 people taking plea deals so far, and 15 more defendants to come.

Late additions suggested by Fake Irishman:

Fraud case in NY (criminal)
Alvin Bragg in NY fraud case, the original criminal case, he basically gave Jack Smith his spot on the calendar.

E. Jean Carroll civil case
One of the defamation cases.  Not clear on the details.

🧚‍♀️

The court entered a temporary administrative stay of its Order while the parties briefed the Motion, see October 20, 2023 Minute Order, but will now DENY Defendant’s Motion and lift the stay.

Four factors guide the decision whether to stay an order pending appeal:

  1. whether the stay applicant has made a strong showing that he is likely to succeed on the merits;
  2. whether the applicant will be irreparably injured absent a stay;
  3. whether issuance of the stay will substantially injure the other parties interested in the proceeding; and
  4. where the public interest lies.

In this non-lawyer’s opinion, Judge Chutkan destroyed Trump’s motion on all 4 counts.

Favorite phrases from the document:

Mr. Trump, you and your attorneys are full of shit.

Defendant has not made a strong showing that he is likely to succeed on the merits.

Contrary to Defendant’s argument, the right to a fair trial is not his alone, but belongs also to the government and the public

Defendant’s other claims also disregard the record.

Again, the record flatly contradicts that claim.

Defendant’s final claim is that the Order is unconstitutionally vague for various reasons, none of which withstand scrutiny.

For these reasons, Defendant’s Motion to Stay, ECF No. 110, is hereby DENIED, and the administrative stay imposed by the court’s October 20, 2023 Minute Order is hereby LIFTED.

PDF of Judge Chutkan’s ruling to Deny Defendant’s Motion and LIFT the administrative stay.

I am so grateful that Judge Chutkan was assigned to the DC case.  If we had another Loose Cannon, I might be rocking in a corner.

Talk about current events, or anything else.

TOTALLY OPEN THREAD.

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  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    For these reasons, Defendant’s Motion to Stay, ECF No. 110, is hereby DENIED, and the administrative stay imposed by the court’s October 20, 2023 Minute Order is hereby LIFTED.

     

    CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

  5. 5.

    catclub

    Since open thread:  Youtube now forces me to watch ads – disable my ad blocker or it won’t show anything.

    I have questions.

    1. is there a work around short of a VPN?- not even sure that would work.

    2. I was wondering if the ads still run if you play the video twice – first time while ignoring the ads AND the video. then watch the ad-free video?

    3. Should I pay for the youtube channel?  I am highly allergic to paying for streams. So far the only ones are Amazon Prime and public TV donation.

     

    I was also almost tempted to get the WSJ for a year at $1/week.

  6. 6.

    Lynn Dee

    She’s not really salty although it’s fun to read that between the lines. She’s something better: legally solid, thorough, matter of fact in her ruling — and that’s what will get it past appeal (one hopes!)

  10. 10.

    catclub

    @Lynn Dee: and that’s what will get it past appeal

     

    I hope so too.  Trump’s cunning plan seems to be to outrage the judges so much they make a faulty ruling the gets overturned on appeal. Too bad for his chances that he has telegraphed that so clearly.

  11. 11.

    WaterGirl

    @Alison Rose: @MattF:  That was me!

    I went back to add something to the post, but I went to an open tab of the post – from before i added “open thread” to the title, which changed the URL.  I caught it right away and fixed it, but you caught it just at the right wrong time.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    @Lynn Dee: She calls it like it is, in plain language.  She doesn’t leave it to the reader to conclude, for instance, that the record flatly contradicts the bullshit from Trump’s lawyers.

  20. 20.

    Ken

    I’m sorry, I get easily confused by the four (five?) simultaneous Trump cases, and completely lost by the thicket of legal motions associated with each.  What was he whining about this time, and what are the consequences of lifting the stay?

    I’m pretty sure that since it’s Chutkan, this isn’t the stay that prevented his property from being immediately sold. Pity…

  22. 22.

    WaterGirl

    @Ken: I will go back and clarify that up top.  (done!)

    In the meantime, this is the Jan 6 case in DC with Judge Chutkan that is set to start in March.

    Not the civil case in NY where they will hopefully be selling off most of Trump-land.  That’s the OTHER trial where there is a partial gag order.

  24. 24.

    Geminid

    The political dynamics of Ukraine aid was the topic of a Politico article last night. It’s titled:

    “McConnell goes all out as Ukraine fight fractures GOP.”

    ….On Monday [Senator] McConnell will appear alongside Ukraine’s Ambassador Oksana Makarova at the University of Louisville to again publically commit the United States to Ukraine’s defense against Russia.

    The article is about the friction within McConnell’s caucus, and between McConnell and House leadership, over passing President Biden’s Ukraine aid package.

  25. 25.

    Doc Sardonic

    I use a plugin in Firefox on my Mac and never see ads on YouTube, but only if I use Firefox. Using Safari makes YouTube damn near unwatchable. Unfortunately, I am away from my Mac, but will post the plugin here and link that later.

  26. 26.

    WaterGirl

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: @Ken:   Let’s see.

    Classified docs case
    The Jack Smith case with Loose Cannon in FL, with all the delays.

    Jan 6 case
    The Jack Smith case with Judge Chutkan in DC set to start in March, with a partial gag order.

    Civil case (please take all his properties!)
    The Tish James case with Judge Engoron in NY, going on now, also with a partial gag order and the assistant that Trump hates.

    Fake Electors RICO case
    The Fani Willis case with Judge McAfee in GA, with 4 people taking plea deals so far, and 15 more defendants to come.

    I’m sure I forgot something.

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    @Ken:

    I’m sorry, I get easily confused by the four (five?) simultaneous Trump cases, and completely lost by the thicket of legal motions associated with each.

    BWA HA HA AH AH AHA HA HA

  31. 31.

    The Other Steve

    @catclub: Well… We ended up paying for youtube premium a few months ago.   In part to get rid of ads, but mostly it was because my wife wanted to listen to video/podcasts while walking the dogs and premium lets you play while phone is in your pocket.

    But now I’m finding great joy in using youtube music in the car.   It’s a high quality audio stream and integrates nicely into siri.

    So that’s my counterpoint for why you might want to subscribe.   It’s not a great reason, but it did work in our case.   Otherwise you could just deal with the ads, I’ve been doing that for years and it’s not that bad and helps the creators.

  35. 35.

    HumboldtBlue

    Ya know, it’s pretty nice going through life and not having to deal with 91 counts of alleged criminal activity spanning four different cases in four different states.

    The toughest thing I did today was donate my old car to the Humane Society, and there were no lawyers, or even judges, involved.

    I also bought new socks, so that was fun.

  36. 36.

    WaterGirl

    @Ken: Of course, my cheat sheet doesn’t even include the two 13th  14th amendment state cases that are either happening this week or rulings happened this week.

    Thus far, both cases I am aware of are going forward, and Trump has lost his motions to have them dismissed.

  37. 37.

    Timill

    There’s also some 14th Amendment cases brewing at the moment, though Trump isn’t a defendant in them. I think Colorado is the most advanced, with Minnesota following along.

  42. 42.

    eclare

    Thanks for the cheat sheet WaterGirl!

    What did I do today?  I took my dog to the vet for her annual exam/shots and bought a six month supply of heartworm/flea/tick preventive for her and my cat, and I guess now I’ll be eating Ramen noodles for awhile.  Wow.

  43. 43.

    Ajabu

    As long as it’s called “ enjoyable, reading”: I want to thank everyone who contributed to my temporary financial meltdown recently. I am eternally grateful for the bailout. For those of you awaiting the promised CDs, they will finally be going out later this week. Sorry for the delay, but I had to free up enough money to mail them!
    Love you guys!

  45. 45.

    Fake Irishman

    Nice cheat sheet, but you’re missing two:

    1. Civil case: Jean Carroll’s follow up to defamation case when Trump allegedly defamed her after he lost a jury case about defaming her.

    2. Alvin Brag’s NY fraud case. (The original criminal case)

  46. 46.

    WaterGirl

    @eclare: Yeah, Henry get his heartworm on the 1st, and I have to wait until the 1st to buy it because I am out of $$ for the month.  That stuff is expensive!

    Which brand do you use?

  47. 47.

    Redshift

    Who would have thought, even just a few years ago, that I would find any legal documents interesting reading?

    Yeah, I had never read an indictment before the past year. Who knew they could be so readable?

  49. 49.

    twbrandt

    While we’re all enjoying all the legal shit Trump is drowning in, let us also laugh at Elon, who now values twitter at $19B, $25B or 55% less than what he bought it for just one year ago.

  50. 50.

    db11

    I mostly use the Brave browser (with built-in ad blocker) on my Mac and I can still watch YouTube without ads…

    However, on initial load — instead of loading the video normally — YouTube now pops up this message:

    “You’re offline. Check your connection”

    If you then re-load the page via the browser (not the YT ‘Retry’ button) then the video loads and plays, sans ads.

  52. 52.

    Redshift

    In response to hearing about TFG’s complaints about how unfair it is for him to have to deal with all these legal restrictions, I frequently quote Jim Carry from Liar, Liar (out loud or in my head, depending on my surroundings.)

    His character is told one of his perennial clients is on the phone asking how he can get out of the latest trouble he’s in, and he picks up the phone and yells “STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!” 😀

  53. 53.

    Ken

    @Redshift: I understand that the readability of the indictment is a deliberate tactic by the prosecution, and of relatively recent occurrence. They know that nowadays the indictments will be read by many people, so they structure it as a narrative or story to make it more convincing and believable.

  55. 55.

    eclare

    @WaterGirl:

    Nexgard Plus.  I used to give Lucy Heartgard and Nexgard, and now it’s one combined chew.

    So you can compare, my vet charged $226.50 for a six month supply.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    @Ryan: I can’t speak to that.  But she certainly doesn’t behave like a judge who knows what she’s doing.  Or like a judge who’s not in the Defendant’s pocket.

  66. 66.

    Splitting Image

    I use a Firefox plugin called “Enhancer for Youtube”. It blocks ads and allows you to turn off comments, autoplay, and suggestions. So far it has been very effective.

  70. 70.

    Geminid

    @twbrandt: Tesla stock is down too. Today a 4.79% drop took the price to $197. Tesla stock was at $263 a share on October 10. It’s dropped 21.56% since then.

    Tesla recently announced its lowest quarterly dividend since 2021. Mr. Musk was said to sound a little depressed about this in a call to investors. One observer thinks that Musk and Tesla shareholders have come to understand that Tesla is operating in “a brutally competitive” industrial sector.

  72. 72.

    lgerard

    ACN was a multilevel marketing company that promoted a primitive “video phone” to investors.  They hired trump (and his family) to shill for them.  Evidently trump made personal appearances and promoted them on the Apprentice.

    The product was basically worthless (you could only talk to someone if they had the same phone), and the promises of earnings were grossly exaggerated.

  74. 74.

    Brachiator

    Upcoming Economic News this week

    Hold onto your hats because it’s going to be a very big Fed week

    Markets will gyrate right up until the Fed announces its interest-rate decision. But don’t forget: Apple reports quarterly results on Thursday, and a big jobs report lands on Friday.

    But at least oil prices were lower on the week and have fallen 5% or so in October, despite rising Middle East tensions. U.S. gasoline prices are off nearly 10% since their mid-September peak and are 6.2% lower than a year ago.

    The Fed will announce Nov. 1 whether it will raise its key federal funds rate from the current range of 5.25% to 5.5%.

    The Fed’s rate decision, due Wednesday, is the biggest of the week’s economic events.

    The answer may be “No” if CME Group’s Fed Watch tool is accurate, Wall Street fully expects the central bank to leave the rate where it is. Moreover, the tool, which tracks the projections of economists and analysts, suggests the rate will stay at 5.25% to 5.5% at its Dec. 12-13 meeting. The Fed had suggested one last rate increase might come this year.

    Investors would be stunned and would sell heavily if the Fed raised rates on Wednesday or at its December meeting. The betting now is the Fed is basically done raising rates, letting residual effects of rate increases since early 2022 and the bond market kill off the inflation pressures that erupted after the easing of the Covid-19 pandemic and its ultra low interest rates.

    But there is also the matter of the Labor Department’s monthly jobs report due before markets open on Friday.

    In addition, there will be reports during the week on manufacturing activity and factory orders and the weekly look at jobless claims.

    To top all that off are more than 1,100 earnings reports due during the week, including the biggest — from Apple — coming after the Nov. 2 close.

    Headline news will probably oversimplify the news. The better dedicated business news sites will do better. Programs like MarketWatch and Make Me Smarter usually do good jobs putting things into perspective.

  75. 75.

    JaySinWA

    @catclub: YouTube TV doesn’t get rid of YouTube ads, I don’t think. It gives you live local TV and some cable channels IIRC.

    YouTube Premium is a separate service that does get rid of ads in YouTube Videos (not live TV) and adds a music service. It costs around $14 a month for an individual while YT TV runs about $74 for English language channels.

  76. 76.

    Lynn Dee

    @WaterGirl:  Most judges use plain language. Or try to. And making claims not supported by the record, as Trump and his lawyers do, will get called out every time.

  77. 77.

    Geminid

    @twbrandt: Tesla’s Price/Earnings ratio of 63 is still unusually high. By contrast, Ford’s P/E is 6.6, a little over a tenth of Tesla’s.

  78. 78.

    cain

    @twbrandt: So is Google. A lot of these tech startups are overvalued. There will be a level setting soon and a lot of people are going to lose whatever their projected value is.

  79. 79.

    The Other Steve

    @WaterGirl: Oh interesting.   Wasn’t even aware of that Minnesota case.   Growe is Joan Growe who was Sec. of State from 1975-1999.   Steve Simon is the current Sec. of State.   Growe is a legend.

  80. 80.

    Geminid

    @Geminid: Tesla stock’s drop was on a day the stock market was up; the S&P 500 rose  by 1.2% while Tesla dropped 4.7%. Not a promising start of the week for Mr. Musk.

  81. 81.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @Fake Irishman: Bragg in New York, right – I got lost trying to figure out which of the cases was the actual literal criminal fucking conspiracy (i.e. the one involving the sex and the hush money).

  82. 82.

    Mousebumples

    @WaterGirl: I saw a graph about where Trump’s ballot eligibility was being litigated, and it seemed to hit most of the swing states, which surprised me. Might have been something from Elias on Bluesky, etc.?

    I need to go get my kiddos from daycare, but I can dig later tonight if someone else can’t find it.

  85. 85.

    Brachiator

    @cain:

    So is Google. A lot of these tech startups are overvalued. There will be a level setting soon and a lot of people are going to lose whatever their projected value is.

    Alphabet’s PE ratio is 23. Very reasonable.

    Apple PE ratio, 28

    Amazon is 100, which is nuts, but some components would do very well if broken up.

  86. 86.

    lowtechcyclist

    @WaterGirl:

    In hopes of keeping someone, or getting rid of someone?

    In hopes of forcing TFG to choose between admitting he lost the 2020 election in order to be on the ballot, or refusing to give up his claim that he won the 2020 election and getting kicked off the ballot in multiple states on account of that.

  87. 87.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Fake Irishman: Interestingly (or at least it got interesting after I’d watched a truly embarrassing amount of Meidas Touch videos), the pending E. Jean Carroll case is “E. Jean Carroll #1”. The defamation case that finished was “E. Jean Carroll #2”.

    The first one was while what’s-his-name was ostensibly President, so his lawyers brought up the defense that the defamation was part of his official duties. Ludicrous, but it raised up enough questions that the courts had to settle some constitutional issues on the limits of “official duties of a president”. So it’s dragged on and bounced from court to court.

    In the meantime, he committed the same defamation after leaving office. So that one didn’t have any constitutional repercussions and finished relatively quickly.

    Aileen Cannon’s delays, as I understand it, have had the unintended consequence of opening up the calendar for all the other cases to have earlier trials than they might otherwise have had.

    Wasn’t there a separate classified documents case in DC, or is that one still with the grand jury?

  91. 91.

    Neal Schier

    @The Other Steve: 

    I agree. I signed up for YouTube Premium nearly two years ago and consider it a very good decision as most of the viewing I do is on YT.

    I also like, as you mentioned for your wife, being able to stream it while doing something else.

    Plus the downloads and music. It is a product that I like and find it to be good value for the money— which, as we know, is not always the case.

  92. 92.

    cckids

    @Redshift:

    His character is told one of his perennial clients is on the phone asking how he can get out of the latest trouble he’s in, and he picks up the phone and yells “STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!”

    Trump’s attorneys should have that as their ringtone when he calls them.

  95. 95.

    JaySinWA

    @Timill: Thanks,

    I did a free trial of TV awhile back and now YouTube keeps offering to restart it fairly often. I didn’t take it because it required a separate app instead of adding to YouTube (as well as the pricing) and it would have made things more confusing. At that time I don’t think the YouTube free stuff was part of YT TV, or it wasn’t obvious.

    I see the premium offer far less often and I had forgotten about its existence until recently.

  97. 97.

    Jackie

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Fake electors?

    I believe that’s the Fulton County trial — altho it could also overlap with the J6 trial…

    I read very recently that Jack Smith and Fani Willis are starting to compare notes… this after Meadows is cooperating (?) with Smith.

  99. 99.

    cmorenc

    @MattF:

    There’s also the question of whether the 14th Amendment bars Trump from running. This Vox article summarizes.

    The potential downside to winning the 14A insurrection case in state court in Colorado, thus keeping him off the ballot is that Biden is likely to win Colorado’s EV in 2024, irrespective of whether Trump is on the ballot or not – is that it could give a Speaker Johnson-led house reason to claim Colorado’s electoral votes are thereby invalid and should not be counted.  Of course, since the EVs are not counted until after newly elected representatives take office, this won’t be a problem if the Ds take the majority in 2024.

  102. 102.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Since this is OT, I’ve decided the best way to counter truly idiotic name-calling from Republicans is to embrace them.  I’m currently designing a “Proud Liberal Cuck” tee shirt with an owl image on it.

    For anyone unfamiliar, “Cuck” is basically their way of insulted Liberal/Progressive/Feminist Men since most of our society no longer thinks it’s cute to call men p*ssy or homophobic epithets.  So “Cuck” has become their catch-all way to imply we aren’t real men or that we are all secretly gay because well…they’ve always hated Women and LGBTQ People.

  103. 103.

    prostratedragon

    @Doug R:  I’ve been locked out on linux with ublock for a day.  I am not going to rush and pay youtube as much or more than I pay Prime for a variety of services, so looking into other strategies.

  104. 104.

    lee

    OT My buddy the Commandant of the Marine Corps has been hospitalized.

    Lately with all the shit going on he’s been running on about 5 hours of sleep. He’s 58 and even as fit as he is, that is unsustainable.

  106. 106.

    Burnspbesq

    There is potentially another case in the pipeline: a Federal grand jury in DC is looking into Trump’s use of the Big Lie to fleece the rubes. Wire fraud and mail fraud charges could result.

    And at some point DOJ and/or the SEC will get around to looking at the shenanigans surrounding the SPAC that was supposedly formed to take Truth Social public.

  107. 107.

    Lynn Dee

    @catclub:

    Quote: Trump’s cunning plan seems to be to outrage the judges so much they make a faulty ruling the gets overturned on appeal. Too bad for his chances that he has telegraphed that so clearly.

    Good point! May he keep on telegraphing ..

  108. 108.

    Burnspbesq

    The standard of review on appeal of Judge Chutkan’s order is going to be abuse of discretion. Basically, what that means is that if she considered all relevant factors, and didn’t consider any impermissible ones, she’s going to be upheld. Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, we talked in Administrative Law class about the abuse-of-discretion standard as a “right to be wrong.”

  110. 110.

    WaterGirl

    @Burnspbesq: At first it sounded like you are suggesting that she did not do this:

    Basically, what that means is that if she considered all relevant factors, and didn’t consider any impermissible ones, she’s going to be upheld.

    Or did you not read her ruling, so you have no opinion on her ruling?

  112. 112.

    Chris Johnson

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: Moscow Mitch is loyal to NOBODY, is my takeaway.

    It’s almost admirable. Since Ukraine, Russia is dead to him. It doesn’t matter how much they’ve given him, they’re losers and he’s betraying them, as is Lindsey Graham last I checked.

    Mitch is of the opinion that Russia is losing, which they are. That sets him against the sedition caucus in the House, which he previously would have supported without a peep. But Russia has failed to carry off their attempted coup on the United States, Mitch has correctly determined where power lies, and Mitch McConnell is now Putin’s worst nightmare.

    I wonder if he himself has flipped to the point where he went privately to the Justice Department and said ‘Putin’s been paying me to overthrow the country, and I don’t think he can win. Make sure I don’t pay any consequences, not ANY consequences, and I will tell you EVERYTHING you could possibly want to know, up to and including everything I know about Putin and Russia’s weaknesses… because they trusted me’.

    It would even be true, and it’s politics at the highest imaginable level.

    Russia fucked up. They trusted him, and then they couldn’t seal the deal.

  113. 113.

    Chris Johnson

    @Chief Oshkosh: Out of curiosity, how do you rate the enhanced HD they claim to give you? If you use it, are you getting a noticeable boost in video, in audio, over their baseline HD?

    I’m on fiber now (finally) and I have youtube going a lot, including just for music, and YouTube transcodes everything all the time, which implies their premium stuff might be a boost across the board. Do you find it to be anything like that? I just adblock but that might be the one thing that’d get me to shell out. I use YouTube for just about everything, and I upload my own stuff in 4k and 24/96.

  114. 114.

    prostratedragon

    @lee:  Actually just now I was able to play a video after clearing my cache. I’d cleared before with no result, but, you know … so something that simple is still worth a try.

  115. 115.

    wjca

    @WaterGirl: But she certainly doesn’t behave like a judge who knows what she’s doing.

    Noted without comment: when her name was put forward, the ABA rated her “Not qualified”

  117. 117.

    kmax

    @catclub: I am going thru the same thing with YouTube.

    The other day they posted a suggestion to open the video in private window (incognito in chrome).   My ad blocker would not be running there. Videos loaded and ran ok.

  118. 118.

    Ramona

    @WaterGirl: Very first criminal indictment: Alan Bragg’s NY case on pervasive pattern of filing fraudulent tax returns (I summarize not quite adequately).

  120. 120.

    Ramona

    You and I were likely typing it at the same time. After I posted my comment and refreshed the screen, I saw your info and planned on deleting my post but got distracted by the comments and forgot. Thank-you a million for being such an unflagging source of pleasure and information!

    Until Bragg’s indictment dropped, I was on tenterhooks because all I wanted was one criminal indictment of Trump even if it were to be hung by a sneak MAGA juror. I was sure he would agree to a plea deal and he well might eventually.

  121. 121.

    WaterGirl

    @Ramona: Thank you!  I just finished adding the cheat sheet in the sidebar for easy reference.

    And I added the 3 most prominent 14th Amendment cases, too.

    Political Action

    Trump Active Cases Cheat Sheet

    Yes, it will take awhile for all of it to play out, but I am so grateful that we’re not doing the “just look forward!” bullshit.

     

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