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Friday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  November 17, 202310:18 pm| 53 Comments

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There are a lot of episodes of Game of Thrones.

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  1. 1.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 17, 2023 at 10:28 pm

    I don’t know how I stumbled upon this performance, but young Ruby opens some eyes with her singing and yodeling.

  2. 2.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 17, 2023 at 10:40 pm

    There is not enough cocaine, banjos, carefully sculpted facial hair left on earth to relive this goddamn moment of interstellar joy.

  3. 3.

    geg6

    November 17, 2023 at 10:43 pm

    I hope you are enjoying it.  Not my bag though.  The new season of the Great British Baking Show is lovely though.  Paul Hollywood seems to have softened up a bit and Noel’s new sidekick, Alison (I think) is delightful.  Not as delightful as Noel is, but then, who is?

  4. 4.

    RevRick

    November 17, 2023 at 10:45 pm

    Try wading through all the books, John Cole.

  5. 5.

    geg6

    November 17, 2023 at 10:46 pm

    @RevRick:

    I’d rather stick needles in my eyes. 😀

  6. 6.

    Mike in NC

    November 17, 2023 at 10:49 pm

    Watched “The Killer” starring Michael Fassbender as some hitman on Netflix tonight. Still trying to figure it all out. IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes are our friends.

  7. 7.

    Urza

    November 17, 2023 at 10:49 pm

    @geg6: The books are better than the show.  Not counting how it looks like he’ll never finish the series.

  8. 8.

    geg6

    November 17, 2023 at 10:56 pm

    @Urza:

    I’ve tried both the books (well, one anyway) and the series.  Never got further than about a quarter of the way through the book and couldn’t finish the first episode of the first season.  I seem to be immune to the whole thing.  Bored me stiff.  I get that some people love it, but I am left completely cold.  I’m sure some of my favorite stuff does the same to others.  To each their own.

  9. 9.

    Brachiator

    November 17, 2023 at 10:59 pm

    There are a lot of episodes of Game of Thrones.

    Yes, there are.

    Back in the day, a number of coworkers enjoyed the series, talked about it much. I finally watched previous episodes, and got caught up in it. I still appreciate much of it.

    Saw a trailer for a new version of the mini series Shogun. Might be good.

    I remember a friend lent me a copy of the novel. Started reading it while in the laundry room washing clothes. I stayed down there for hours while I got caught up in the world of the novel.

    The original mini series was also pretty good.

  10. 10.

    Martin

    November 17, 2023 at 11:02 pm

    I think we need lawyerly help here.

    CO judge said that Trump did engage in an insurrection but will remain on the ballot in CO, because the 14th Amendment doesn’t apply to Presidents. I cannot fathom how the wording of the 14 amendment doesn’t apply to Presidents

    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    Is the president not covered under ‘hold any office’? I mean, yeah, it’s odd that there’s a list which doesn’t include President, but doesn’t that then render ‘hold any office’ to have no meaning if they are interpreting only the itemized offices?

  11. 11.

    thruppence

    November 17, 2023 at 11:04 pm

    • @Brachiator: You might like “Blue Eye Samurai” on Netflix. Limited series, fantastic animation.
  12. 12.

    piratedan

    November 17, 2023 at 11:16 pm

    @Martin: IANAL but it reads like legal cowardice to me.

    Maybe they just don’t want to deal with the anticipated MAGA outrage

  13. 13.

    CaseyL

    November 17, 2023 at 11:16 pm

    @Brachiator: Oh my god, that trailer for the new Shogun… what it did was remind me of how transformative the original miniseries was, how it felt to watch and experience the original.

    I don’t see how the new version can produce the same cultural and social thunderclap of the original, but it hopefully will be excellent in its own way.

  14. 14.

    TheOtherHank

    November 17, 2023 at 11:18 pm

    My kids are still mad about season 8. I forgive the show for not sticking the landing. So few long-running series manage to have a satisfying end.

  15. 15.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 17, 2023 at 11:24 pm

    And someone dies in every last one of them!

  16. 16.

    eclare

    November 17, 2023 at 11:30 pm

    @geg6:

    GoT is not my thing, either, but I love GBBS!  Are all of the episodes out yet?  Once they are I’ll switch from Hulu to Netflix.  I switch between those two a few times a year to catch new seasons of shows.

    I googled, looks like it is up to patisserie week, so a few weeks left.  Binging that will be a great Christmas present!

    No spoilers!

  17. 17.

    NotMax

    November 17, 2023 at 11:31 pm

    There are a lot of episodes of Game of Thrones.

    IMHO one is too many. YMMV.
    ;)

  18. 18.

    eclare

    November 17, 2023 at 11:32 pm

    @piratedan:

    That was my thought.

  19. 19.

    Soprano2

    November 17, 2023 at 11:36 pm

    @Brachiator: Yes, Shogun was a great book, and the miniseries was good too. Whatever happened to miniseries? They’re perfect for long books.

  20. 20.

    Big R

    November 17, 2023 at 11:36 pm

    @Martin: the legal argument is more or less formalist nonsense, but it basically amounts to, because of some other text, that the President is not an “officer of the United States,” and so the bar imposed does not apply to Presidents who engaged in insurrection.

    Even a moment’s thought demonstrates the utter absurdity of the logic (so you’re saying the person who has the power to make sure that an insurrection succeeds does not suffer the consequences of insurrection?), but my guess is that the judge (correctly, in my mind) recognizes that there’s no good ending to the story that begins with disqualifying Trump, so they seized on this very thin reed of an argument to avoid having to do so while still making the important point, which is that he’s a treasonous shitweasel.

  21. 21.

    Annie

    November 17, 2023 at 11:38 pm

    The creep  who attacked Paul Pelosi was convicted in federal court yesterday.  Unclear if the San Francisco DA will continue with the state case against him (I hope she will but I don’t think anyone should count on Brooke Jenkins for anything)

  22. 22.

    PaulWartenberg

    November 17, 2023 at 11:42 pm

    I still got 5 code invites to Bluesky if you’re on twitter and need an invite, DM me @paulwartenberg

  23. 23.

    Gwangung

    November 17, 2023 at 11:45 pm

    @CaseyL: Hm. Um. For me and mine, Shogun never had much of an impact. Maybe “Here we go again….”

  24. 24.

    PaulWartenberg

    November 17, 2023 at 11:45 pm

    @Martin: I know. It’s right there in the text of ‘elector of President or Vice President’. It’s like the judge knows – and spells out in the ruling – that trump incited violence, it’s that the judge doesn’t want the responsibility to hold trump accountable and so uses this twisted logic that he’s ‘not an officer’ to let him go. /headdesk

  25. 25.

    Martin

    November 17, 2023 at 11:48 pm

    @Big R: I mean, make that goddamn argument. Surely the authors of the 14th amendment didn’t mean ‘no insurrectionist electors – that’s too far, but by all means, let’s allow the insurrectionist to take unchecked command of the armed forces’.

    Will it be appealed? Of course – there’s no scenario in which it’s not. But at least put that reasoning in writing and make the higher court make the absurd case for why it’s wrong.

    Fucking hate cowards.

  26. 26.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 17, 2023 at 11:49 pm

    Apparently, we need to codify that violating the oath of office of President of the United States is a criminal offense.

  27. 27.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 17, 2023 at 11:52 pm

    @Soprano2: Is that the James Clavell doorstop from like the 1970’s?

  28. 28.

    Narya

    November 17, 2023 at 11:54 pm

    Also looking forward to Shogun! I hope they did a good job w it. And binging GBBS.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    November 17, 2023 at 11:58 pm

    @Soprano2

    Scads of ’em on various streaming services.

  30. 30.

    scav

    November 17, 2023 at 11:58 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: It’s apparently like the Supreme Court.  Above all ethical concerns — especially if conservative,  Hell, even running for the office is a get out of obeying mere laws, norms or ethics if you’ve got the right lapel pin.

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    November 18, 2023 at 12:03 am

    Shogun (not related to the book) was/is a fun board game.

  32. 32.

    wjca

    November 18, 2023 at 12:10 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: Apparently, we need to codify that violating the oath of office of President of the United States is a criminal offense.

    Seems unlikely to happen any time soon.  After all, if we did that what would be the justification for not doing the same for members of Congress?  (Not that they need even a fig leaf, of course.  Look how many labor laws, etc. explicitly exclude the legislature.)

  33. 33.

    currawong

    November 18, 2023 at 12:16 am

    @Brachiator: That looks awesome. I loved the original series with Richard Chamberlain and the book too.

    I’ll definitely have this marked down to watch next Feb.

  34. 34.

    Ivan X

    November 18, 2023 at 12:20 am

    The general genre of GoT is most definitely not my thing, but after forcing myself through several episodes I found myself fully hooked, if as much for the political machinations and great characters as anything else. Disliked the magic/supernatural aspects, and I feel like it’s almost a perfect mountain shape, building until it peaked in the fourth season, and very gradually declining since, never enough to make it a waste of time. Well glad I spent my time on it though I can’t imagine doing so with anything remotely similar.

    Whereas, despite it seemingly being much closer to the kind of thing I usually like, the first episode of Breaking Bad I hated, and my friends were like no, you’re wrong, so I tried the second, and halfway through, I was like, I’m out. But I thought Better Call Saul was sublime. Fight me.

  35. 35.

    Dangerman

    November 18, 2023 at 12:27 am

    @Martin: Fucking hate cowards.

    I can understand the Judge’s obvious cowardice; the first one to DQ Trump better have great fucking security for the rest of his or her life. Not saying that’s right but I get it.

    What we need is a shitload of people moving from California, where Biden will carry the State by a gazillion votes, give or take a few, to swing states; we have the surplus to share. Else it’s going to be a nailbiter because of those stupid motherfuckers in those swing states.

  36. 36.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 18, 2023 at 12:44 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Excellent.

  37. 37.

    West of the Rockies

    November 18, 2023 at 12:56 am

    @geg6:

    Way too rapey for me.

  38. 38.

    Dlwchico

    November 18, 2023 at 1:05 am

    Supernatural has a lot of episodes.
    I finished season four and can’t believe it goes to 15 seasons, I think.

  39. 39.

    C Stars

    November 18, 2023 at 1:33 am

    Anyone watching KATLA on Netflix? Particularly eerie given what has been happening in Iceland for the last few weeks.

  40. 40.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 18, 2023 at 1:34 am

    The Foggy Dew

  41. 41.

    C Stars

    November 18, 2023 at 1:37 am

    Tonight we watched the World’s End, which I thought really dragged compared to Hot Fuzz, and started a fun new movie called the Portable Door. Sam Neil is in it and he’s so funny

  42. 42.

    Geoduck

    November 18, 2023 at 1:47 am

    @Urza: GRRM has nothing on David Gerrold, who’s put off finishing his War Against the Cthorr novels for thirty years now.

  43. 43.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    November 18, 2023 at 2:27 am

    @C Stars: OMG someone finally made a film of a Tom Holt Book!!  I know what I’m watching this weekend.  And from the J, W. Wells series, which includes the fabulously titled : You Don’t Have To Be Evil To Work Here, But It Sure Helps.

  44. 44.

    Craig

    November 18, 2023 at 2:47 am

    I like all the times a character that I’ve liked gets suddenly dead. Never fucked with my girl. Well played Mr. Martin.

  45. 45.

    Craig

    November 18, 2023 at 2:51 am

    @Mike in NC: oh man, all his aliases are hilarious.

  46. 46.

    NotMax

    November 18, 2023 at 2:53 am

    Watched The Potable Door earlier this year. Entertaining enough to give it a B — recommendation with reservations.. Reminiscent of the better of the Discworld video outings (Going Postal, The Colour of Magic). Can’t quite come to a decision of what it wants to be; loses the thread, IMHO, about 80% of the way through.

  47. 47.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 18, 2023 at 2:55 am

    Yorckscher Marsch: Einmarsch des Wachbataillons beim Großen Zapfenstreich 28.08.2023

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 18, 2023 at 2:55 am

    @NotMax:

    Watched The Potable Door earlier this year.

    I prefer potable water.

  49. 49.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    November 18, 2023 at 3:05 am

    I just heard on the terrestrial radio that Apartheid Clyde is filing a “THERMONUCLEAR LAWSUIT!!!!” against Media Matters for accurately reporting something that he said and did on the Nazi shit hole social media site that he has created.

    Incoming SLAPP suit!! What a fucking whiny-assed racist man-baby Elon Mush is.

  50. 50.

    NotMax

    November 18, 2023 at 3:12 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee

    Already owns the Boring Company. X may as well be dubbed the Boering Company.
    //

  51. 51.

    R-Jud

    November 18, 2023 at 3:42 am

    @Ivan X: Your opinion maps with mine about both GoT and Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul. (Though I think that S6 of GoT is also worth re-watching.)

    Sometimes when I need to write a fight scene I pull up the “every fucking chicken in this room” tavern brawl from S4. It’s just so well-constructed.

  52. 52.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 18, 2023 at 10:59 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: Yeah, this should be very entertaining.  Someone got some popcorn ready to go in the microwave?

  53. 53.

    Travis

    November 23, 2023 at 10:56 am

    @geg6: Same here! Really great! Check Recovery Slough for recovery near me

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