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Tuesday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  December 12, 20234:50 pm| 104 Comments

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I saw this headline earlier:

“It may be one of the most important democracy decisions of our lifetimes.”

Pop quiz:  Is that about funding for Ukraine?  Or Jack Smith’s decision to go directly to the Supreme Court?

Oh, and to get you in the mood for the holiday:

Subaru Dianne sent me the holiday decoration!

Totally open thread.

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  1. 1.

    RedDirtGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 4:52 pm

    That’s about the size of my holiday spirit this year!

  2. 2.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 4:53 pm

    I love that minimalist Christmas picture. Maybe I can get my spouse to go for that this year.

  3. 3.

    eclare

    December 12, 2023 at 4:56 pm

    What is the answer to the quiz?

  4. 4.

    eclare

    December 12, 2023 at 4:56 pm

    @sab:

    I love it too.

  5. 5.

    zhena gogolia

    December 12, 2023 at 4:57 pm

    I guess Supreme Court. Although the other would also be true.

  6. 6.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 4:58 pm

    @eclare: I thought we might want to entertain more guesses before I give the answer?

  7. 7.

    rekoob

    December 12, 2023 at 5:01 pm

    Given the stakes, I’ll vote for Ukraine funding.

  8. 8.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    Who wouldn’t want this cheap huckster for president?

    I kept this image really small so that anyone who doesn’t want to see the face can skip right past it.  If you actually want to read it, you can click for a larger image.

    Tuesday Afternoon Open Thread 4
    I think (fake) Jack Smith has it right when he calls it a one time offer on cheap DNA samples for future lawsuits.  Did he ever have to give his DNA to the court?

  9. 9.

    cain

    December 12, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    So to conclude the story with my wife – she’s getting paid out to the end of the school year in June with pay and insurance. She won’t be going back. They decided to keep her file with whatever crap in there they complained about. She plans on putting a rebuttal there. But she has scrubbed her work history of working at the school. As far as she is concerned, it never happened.

    The teachers and kids are going to be devastated. Her office is filled with notes from the kids and teachers. Just really sad. For 3 months she gave that school a taste of what a good school could be and that school system prioritized an incompetent woman (who took credit for all my wife’s successes) over her. She’s going to find out some things because having been given a taste of competence – that woman is going to feel some serious pressure. Also taking credit for things also means they expect you to perform that level. (well the teachers, apparently the administrators are just fine with whatever performance she’s at)

    A school lost today. We should all be sad about that. We can only wonder why you’d not put successful administrators in charge and lift all boats?

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:08 pm

    Highlight below for the answer to the subject of the article that headline was attached to.

    Personally, I think it fits both, and I would be hard pressed to choose between the two.  We’ll have to work hard to win on both fronts.

    Jack Smith going straight to the Supreme Court.

  11. 11.

    catfishncod

    December 12, 2023 at 5:09 pm

    Trick question – The answer is “both”…

  12. 12.

    Baud

    December 12, 2023 at 5:10 pm

    @cain:

    Too bad for the school, but glad she’s out.

  13. 13.

    eclare

    December 12, 2023 at 5:10 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Gotcha!  I also go with SCOTUS.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:10 pm

    My comment at #10 gave me an idea.  If we were planning an insurrection, could we do it in plain sight with comments on a blog that only show up if you happen to highlight a blank area?

    Insurrection planning only on comments that are multiples of 5?  And only in pet threads?  The Feds would never figure it out!

    edit: JOKE

  15. 15.

    Baud

    December 12, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I haven’t even been elected yet, and you’re already planning a coup?

  16. 16.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    December 12, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    Don’t forget to keep it watered, WG!

  17. 17.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 12, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    Who ate the toilet roll?

  18. 18.

    dmsilev

    December 12, 2023 at 5:13 pm

    @WaterGirl: So, he’s selling random scraps of cloth sourced from the discard bin at the local tailor, and calling those “authentic”?

  19. 19.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:13 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Put it in a shot glass for water at night, clip it back in the clothespin in the morning!

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    December 12, 2023 at 5:13 pm

    @RedDirtGirl

    Seems to fit the prevailing mood?
    :)

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:14 pm

    @dmsilev: Worth about as much as an NFT.

  22. 22.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 12, 2023 at 5:14 pm

    Why do Americans pronounced the letter Z as zee instead of the English way, zed.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    December 12, 2023 at 5:15 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Because that’s how it’s spelled.

  24. 24.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 12, 2023 at 5:16 pm

    Bad Lip Reading, Congress edition.

  25. 25.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:16 pm

    @WaterGirl: Good way to get BJ shut down. Liz Cheney still thinks Portland was burned down by Antifa, and 6/9 of S Ct agree.

  26. 26.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    @Baud: Contingency planning in case you don’t win.

  27. 27.

    Yarrow

    December 12, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    Don’t know if anyone is an X-files fan, but even if you’re not this thread is great fun. Like old Twitter, when it was good. This is a Nitter link so everyone should be able to see the whole thread. It started Dec 5, so apologies if people have seen it. It keeps going, though.

    https://nitter.net/laurenancona/status/1731900441800155459#m

    just had the weirdest experience

    was watching an X-files episode

    & there’s this country song playing in the background of the bar they’re in & it’s so good it jars me out of my idle multitasking to Shazam it

    except

  28. 28.

    dmsilev

    December 12, 2023 at 5:18 pm

    @WaterGirl: Well, you can at least use a scrap of cloth for a few things. Patch a hole in something bigger. Kindling for starting a fire. Mopping up a small spill. That’s already more useful than any NFT.

  29. 29.

    Jay

    December 12, 2023 at 5:18 pm

    @cain:

    sorry for that, your wife deserves much better.

  30. 30.

    Suzanne

    December 12, 2023 at 5:18 pm

    @dmsilev:

    So, he’s selling random scraps of cloth sourced from the discard bin at the local tailor, and calling those “authentic”? 

    God. I am just crap at making money. I keep thinking one should “provide value” and “be transparent” and “do a good job at something which requires expertise and diligence”. And here is this clown selling scraps of fabric and he’s richer than I’ll ever be. I was thinking about this with George Santos charging $600 per Cameo, and tons of people are paying this clown.

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    December 12, 2023 at 5:19 pm

    @WaterGirl

    Applying the Boy Scout motto?
    ;)

  32. 32.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:19 pm

    @Baud: Brits are odd. 0 is pronounced “naught” (or maybe “nought” by them.)

  33. 33.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 12, 2023 at 5:20 pm

    I’ve got an idea. What if there was a huge phone/fax campaign to call on GOP members of Congress to vote to approve funding for Ukraine? To show them there’s an overwhelming show of support from Americans?

  34. 34.

    Baud

    December 12, 2023 at 5:21 pm

    @Suzanne:

    . I keep thinking one should “provide value” and “be transparent” and “do a good job at something which requires expertise and diligence

     
    I also made the mistake of believing in these loser values.

  35. 35.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 12, 2023 at 5:21 pm

    @WaterGirl: Ouyay ustmay alktay inay Igpay Atinlay orfay eatergray ecuritysay.

  36. 36.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    @NotMax: Girl Scout motto!

  37. 37.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:23 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: I am so old that I can’t read pig Latin anymore.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:23 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: hahaha

    @sab: I am apparently not that old, because I could read it just fine.  Not sure if I could have typed it out, though.

  39. 39.

    Baud

    December 12, 2023 at 5:24 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Where’s a Navajo code talker when you need one?

  40. 40.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:24 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Are you a voter in Trumbull County? Call your Prosecutor while you are at it.

    Calls work to some extent, but only if you are in their district. Otherwise it is just an annoyance.

    So you are losing Bill Johnson to YSU. So sad for YSU. Not so much for you.

  41. 41.

    NotMax

    December 12, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    @HumboldtBlue

    And why is it labour and colour but not motour, elevatour and alligatour?

  42. 42.

    Martin

    December 12, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): There is no correlation between voter approval of a piece of legislation and whether it passes or not. The only correlation exists between large donors and passage.

    Get your billionaire friends on the phone and its done.

  43. 43.

    CaseyL

    December 12, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Traditionally, members of Congress only pay attention to people who live in their district.  Tens of millions of people calling from elsewhere moves no needles.

    Nowadays, though, GOP members of Congress don’t pay any attention at all to the people who live their districts, much less those who don’t.  The only entities who matter to them are whoever is shoveling money their way – and right now, those entities want Ukraine support to end.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    Jack Smith still not taking a day off.   I sure hope Trump and his attorneys aren’t starting to feel overwhelmed. //

    Bradley P. Moss
    @BradMossEsq

    Smith’s team not stopping for now in DC. Filed a request for a pretrial CIPA hearing to determine if any classified information is relevant and admissible in the J6 case.

  45. 45.

    Alison Rose

    December 12, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): You’re mistaking Republican officials for people who give a shit.

  46. 46.

    Alison Rose

    December 12, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    @WaterGirl: That was my guess. Do you have the link?

  47. 47.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:29 pm

    @NotMax: I don’t know about  alligatour, but elevator is lift and motor is probably engine.

  48. 48.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    December 12, 2023 at 5:29 pm

    @NotMax: but not …, elevatour …

    Because it’s “lift.”

    [Drat, I’m too slow]

  49. 49.

    Martin

    December 12, 2023 at 5:31 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: We invented the fucking thing, I think we get to name it.

  50. 50.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 12, 2023 at 5:32 pm

    @WaterGirl up top:

    Subaru Dianne sent me the holiday decoration!

    It’s festive as all fuck, and I wish I could claim credit for calling it to your notice, but ‘twasn’t me this time!

    Now I’ll go back and read the comments to see if the rightful person has claimed credit.

  51. 51.

    zhena gogolia

    December 12, 2023 at 5:33 pm

    @Baud: If you get elected, we’ll all be planning a coup. //

  52. 52.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:33 pm

    @sab: @eclare:

    Spouse said “No way!”

  53. 53.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I guess I will have to have my own little personal Christmas decoration. But I have to get a spruce sprig somewhere. A yew sprig will poison the cats.

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    December 12, 2023 at 5:37 pm

    @WaterGirl

    Now that three Appeals Court judges have been empaneled, expect them to expedite the question and the Supremes to shelve Smith’s request and defer to them for now.

  55. 55.

    zhena gogolia

    December 12, 2023 at 5:37 pm

    @Yarrow: That’s cool. What’s also cool is that Michael McKean (of Spinal Tap) is in that scene.

    ETA: Forgive me, David St. Hubbins.

  56. 56.

    Betty

    December 12, 2023 at 5:39 pm

    On a serious note, Mike Johnson is a lying creep. His clip explaining his objections to Ukraine funding is full of utter nonsense. So insulting to the Ukrainian people and the sacrifices they continue to make to save their country. He needs clarity! Bah!

  57. 57.

    DesertFriar

    December 12, 2023 at 5:40 pm

    MAGAs “If we could only touch the hem of his garment!”

  58. 58.

    eclare

    December 12, 2023 at 5:40 pm

    @cain:

    I am so sorry for your wife and the kids at that school.  Everyone lost.

  59. 59.

    Suzanne

    December 12, 2023 at 5:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    festive as all fuck 

    Nominated.
    #festiveAAF

  60. 60.

    eclare

    December 12, 2023 at 5:42 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Dog guilt is so funny.

  61. 61.

    Elizabelle

    December 12, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @NotMax:   Oooh.  I rather like “alligatour.”

    A lizard that went to college  university.

  62. 62.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 12, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @NotMax: ​ 

    You ask, English nerd man answers.

  63. 63.

    NotMax

    December 12, 2023 at 5:45 pm

    @Betty

    He needs clarity!

    Rusty farm implement can provide that lickety-split.
    //

  64. 64.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 12, 2023 at 5:45 pm

    @sab: ​ 

    Or nil, when it comes to sports.

    Bayern beat Manchester United today, 1-0, the Brits would say one-nil.

  65. 65.

    eclare

    December 12, 2023 at 5:45 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Jimmy Kimmel paid for a few, sending in ridiculous things for George to say, pretty funny.

    https://youtu.be/iyoRHDkJKlo?si=ax1-Sb5B77D4FHUJ

    The cameos are toward the end.

  66. 66.

    Harrison Wesley

    December 12, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    @Elizabelle: “So what did you do in Florida?” “We took the alliga-tour!”

  67. 67.

    Martin

    December 12, 2023 at 5:47 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: We would say ‘nil’ is incorrect. Nil means no value. ManU had a value, it was zero. Before the game it was nil-nil. After the game it was one to zero.

  68. 68.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    December 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    Fab decoration.  My spouse was not good at wrapping, but give him a brown paper lunch bag, some markers, and a red clothespin, and he would create the most fun gifts under the tree.

  69. 69.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 12, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    @zhena gogolia: That’s the Christmas spirit!

  70. 70.

    Yarrow

    December 12, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    @zhena gogolia:  It’s a great thread. Old school Twitter looking for something and with help from everyone finally finding it. A feel good story.

    The song has been found and is on YouTube. The two guys who wrote/performed it were amazed and overwhelmed that it has had such a fan base for so long. It’s been fun to follow. Link to song.

    The whole story has been written up in Rolling Stone and a lot of other places. Feel good story for everyone.

  71. 71.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:50 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Webster (American born and raised and highly educated) v Caxton (English born, Flemish raised, ??educated.)

  72. 72.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 12, 2023 at 5:51 pm

    @Yarrow: Hooray for Internet sleuthing!

  73. 73.

    RaflW

    December 12, 2023 at 5:55 pm

    @dmsilev: It’ll have the same texture as one of his steaks.

  74. 74.

    Tony Jay

    December 12, 2023 at 5:56 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Full relish, please.

    The result was 0-1, because Manchester United were playing at home and absolutely had to try to win the game while hoping Copenhagen v Galatasaray ended in a draw. Bayern Munich ambled to an easy victory, never getting out of 2nd gear, while United managed one shot on their goal.

    Oh, and because they finished rock bottom of their group, United don’t even qualify to drop into the Europa League, so we won’t get a chance to beat the shit out of them there as we’re going to do at Anfield in our Premier League clash on Sunday.

    Will the humiliation of getting owned by Liverpool cost yet another failed United manager his job? Certainly hope so. It’s just so Christmassy!

  75. 75.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 5:57 pm

    @Cheryl from Maryland: Our grand-daughter continues with her unicorn obsession.

    It was hilarious to watch my 72 year old husband scannng Google in search of the perfect unicorn product for a 9 year old girl.

    He had to consult me on girl stuff, like sizing, and whether zippers or hoodies were better.

    He gave up on stuffed animals because of her mother. “She has nine years of large stuffed animals!  Enough already! Her room is full!”

    ETA  When she was three we bought her a large stuffed pony. She ate its mane, which wasn’t safe for her  so we got it back. Maybe I should just strap on a horn to the forehead and give it back to her. Tell her it’s a boy to go with pink and white one she already has ( girl?)

  76. 76.

    Almost Retired

    December 12, 2023 at 6:00 pm

    @cain:   I’ve followed your story with great interest – partly because I’m an almost retired employment lawyer and partly because my wife was a HS Vice Principal who went through something similar at the hands of a new principal with big ideas about educational reform (ie right wing bullshit).  The new principal forced my wife out after 25 years for her resistance to nonsense.  The school crashed and burned almost immediately and the principal was fired and has been a …um… consultant ever since.  Meanwhile my wife got quickly snapped up by a much larger and more prestigious school and retired on her own terms last year.  I hope you have the same happily ever after.

    ETA:  This is Los Angeles so the very temporary Principal clearly didn’t understand the community.

  77. 77.

    NotMax

    December 12, 2023 at 6:01 pm

    @mrmoshpotato

    Hard to imagine the song isn’t listed someplace within the show’s end credits.

  78. 78.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 12, 2023 at 6:02 pm

  79. 79.

    Yarrow

    December 12, 2023 at 6:02 pm

    @NotMax:  It was not. You have to read the Nitter thread I posted to follow the whole story and learn why. It’s apparently been a big question for 25 years for X-files fans.

  80. 80.

    Hoppie

    December 12, 2023 at 6:03 pm

    @dmsilev: Well, NFTs did cause lots of people to look up the meaning of “fungible”,  so there is that.

  81. 81.

    NotMax

    December 12, 2023 at 6:06 pm

    @Yarrow

    Will take your word for it. I don’t Twitter. Or Nitter. Browser configured to reject those outright.

  82. 82.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    December 12, 2023 at 6:10 pm

    @sab: I can suggest a book, Sophie Johnson Unicorn Expert

    Strap-on horns feature prominently. 😁

  83. 83.

    Yarrow

    December 12, 2023 at 6:10 pm

    @NotMax:  Fair enough. Here are some media stories about it:

    https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/12/07/hidden-gem-country-song-from-the-x-files-will-be-released-thanks-to-one-fans-extraordinary-hustle/

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/what-is-the-x-files-country-song-listen-1234918774/

  84. 84.

    sab

    December 12, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: Yikes! Full service blog!

    I will look into it. She needs reading matter. Thank you. Good suggestion.

    ETA : Originally I thought it might be dirty. Bad me. Hence the Yikes!

  85. 85.

    Layer8Problem

    December 12, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    @DesertFriar:  “And now you can!  Operators are standing by!”

  86. 86.

    Brachiator

    December 12, 2023 at 6:20 pm

    @cain:

    For 3 months she gave that school a taste of what a good school could be and that school system prioritized an incompetent woman (who took credit for all my wife’s successes) over her.

    This is very sad. I wish your wife well.

    I didn’t see your previous posts on this, but it still immediately struck a chord. I have a few friends who were involved in similar situations.

    Take care.

  87. 87.

    cain

    December 12, 2023 at 6:26 pm

    @eclare: my wife cried the other day after teachers texted her saying they missed her and so did the kids. A lot of those kids are on the spectrum. It’s such a tragedy.

  88. 88.

    cain

    December 12, 2023 at 6:28 pm

    @Almost Retired: I’m glad your wife had a happy ending!

    In this case, I just can’t seem to understand why you’d not snap up someone who is just killing it in terms of building up the school – everyone wins – especially the teachers and the kids. You’d think it was good for everyone’s career. Just damn puzzling.

  89. 89.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    December 12, 2023 at 6:29 pm

    @sab: my granddaughter, age 8, shares this obsession.

  90. 90.

    cain

    December 12, 2023 at 6:29 pm

    @Brachiator: Thanks – everything will work out in the end. Extraordinary people will get snapped up by people who actually understand their value.

  91. 91.

    Elizabelle

    December 12, 2023 at 6:31 pm

    @Harrison Wesley:  “We motoured over to see that colourful gator.  Boo yah!”

  92. 92.

    Elizabelle

    December 12, 2023 at 6:32 pm

    @cain:  Hope this will be the beginning of the end for the bad boss.

    And may your wife shine brightly at another school.

    The kids are just collateral damage, I guess.  Very sad.

  93. 93.

    Trivia Man

    December 12, 2023 at 6:33 pm

    @sab: that’s why I call the years 2000-2009 the Naughties

  94. 94.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 6:36 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Link to the article (CNN)

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 6:36 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh, dear!

  96. 96.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 12, 2023 at 6:44 pm

    @Tony Jay: ​</p 

    Wonderfully put.

  97. 97.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    December 12, 2023 at 7:04 pm

    @Trivia Man: And Baud’s posts from that time are the Baudy Naughties

  98. 98.

    Almost Retired

    December 12, 2023 at 7:21 pm

    @cain:   Someone will!  I obviously don’t know the details about your wife’s situation, but my wife initially thought her career was over.  And then found it wasn’t.  There’s a lot of churn in the administrative ranks, but if you’re in a small town it may be more complicated.

  99. 99.

    wjca

    December 12, 2023 at 7:30 pm

    “It may be one of the most important democracy decisions of our lifetimes.”

    Pop quiz:  Is that about funding for 3Ukraine?  Or Jack Smith’s decision to go directly to the Supreme Court?

    I confessed that I’m amazed that nobody has thought to pick “None of the above.”  Given how headline writers roll, it seems like far the likeliest choice.

  100. 100.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 7:33 pm

    @wjca: Cynic!

  101. 101.

    wjca

    December 12, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    Realist!

  102. 102.

    WaterGirl

    December 12, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    @wjca: Truce!  :-)

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    Gina

    December 12, 2023 at 8:10 pm

    @Baud: Bwahahaha.  You are right!

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    December 12, 2023 at 8:33 pm

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