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You are here: Home / Civil Rights / MLK Day Preparations Open Thread: Toxic Seepage Alert

MLK Day Preparations Open Thread: Toxic Seepage Alert

by Anne Laurie|  January 14, 20249:02 pm| 59 Comments

This post is in: Civil Rights, Open Threads, Republican Politics, Republican Stupidity, All Too Normal

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Charlie Kirk's only job was to the only famous Republican alive who resembles an actual college student. Now he looks like your second step-dad, he has to do something to stay relevant on the right. Notable that he's going for just outright racism. https://t.co/svYV5h0Bnf

— L O L G O P (@LOLGOP) January 13, 2024

Charlie Kirk, who first came to national attention prancing around a college quad clad only in a diaper, finds a new way to monetize his humiliation fetish for the benefit of his GOP sugar daddies. Per Wired — “How Charlie Kirk Plans to Discredit Martin Luther King Jr. and the Civil Rights Act”:

… In December 2023, speaking before a group of students and teachers at America Fest, a political convention organized by Turning Point USA, Kirk struck a different tone.

“MLK was awful,” Kirk said. “He’s not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn’t believe.”

For decades, conservatives have pointed to King and his idea that people should “not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character” as a model for equality.

“For a while, Dr. King’s stock was very much on the rise in conservative circles and the Republican Party,” says John Wood Jr., a Republican activist. “It’s been understood on the right that even though Dr. King wasn’t really one of us politically, he was still a ‘good liberal.’”

For Kirk, the shift on King wasn’t an offhand remark, but a glimpse into his broader strategy to discredit the civil rights leader and the landmark legislation most associated with King: the Civil Rights Act of 1964…

Turning Point USA, founded in 2012 by an 18-year-old Kirk to organize conservative students on college campuses, has grown into an ideological force in right-wing politics. America Fest, which took place at a convention center in downtown Phoenix, featured speeches by right-wing heavyweights Donald Trump Jr., Tucker Carlson, and US representative Matt Gaetz of Florida. Nearly 20,000 people attended the four-day event, according to Kirk.

Closely aligned with Donald Trump, the group has been seen as a way to replace the modern Republican establishment with younger people more aligned with the 45th US president and reactionary politics…

“We’re gonna be hitting him next week,” Kirk said on his podcast this week. “Yeah, on the day of the Iowa caucus, it’s MLK Day. We’re gonna do the thing you’re not supposed to do. We’re gonna tell the truth about MLK Jr. You better tune in next week. Blake has already been preparing. It’s gonna be great.”

Blake is an apparent reference to Blake Neff, a producer of The Charlie Kirk Show. In 2020, Neff resigned from his job at Fox News as Tucker Carlson’s top writer after CNN revealed he had been making racist posts under a pseudonym. Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott called Neff’s posts “abhorrent.”

Neff has also been publicly laying the groundwork for rewriting the history on King, attempting to link him to violent unrest after the passing of the Civil Rights Act. “Martin Luther King Jr. gets praised for being a peaceful activist,” Neff said on Jack Posobiec’s Human Events Daily podcast in December. “But what they always end up glossing over is actually in the mid ’60s and late ’60s, civil rights activism becomes a very violent thing.” …

“I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I’ve thought about it. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.” via Charlie Kirk

Why is it that NOBODY called out Kirk if this was said in December at AmFest? Y'all a trip! pic.twitter.com/3eDClyEoZn

— Wayne DuPree ? (@WayneDupreeShow) January 14, 2024

The ragged remnants of the Permanent Republican Party have been insufficiently compliant with the wishes of Our New Oligarchs, and the middle-aged right-wing pundits are fleeing (to backwoods Maine, or Hungary, or their basements) rather than standing strong. So the hardcore Oligarchs are prepping the MAGA cultists of their puppet to defend a full RETVRN to the white-man fantasies glories of the Fifties — the 1850s. It’s not gonna work, but they can surely make a lot of peoples’ lives miserable on their way down the sewer drain of history… and that’s most of what they want, in any case.

I say it a lot but if you look at cash flow, this is the org that GOP donors are entrusting to sculpt the next gen of conservative activists. It sounds wild because it is, but the real hard effects of this will be felt in 5-10 years, I think. https://t.co/2j96JIOVXi

— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) January 12, 2024

also this is just about what every single right winger under 35 believes now https://t.co/3s0uf0JYkk

— John Ganz (@lionel_trolling) January 13, 2024

This makes me angry, of course, but it also makes me deeply sad to see a big chunk of America trending this way. It’s a grim reminder that progress is not inevitable. https://t.co/ewoqFwwspM

— Jean-Michel Connard (@torriangray) January 12, 2024

I'd really like to run the counter factual where Covid didn't get in the way of elite public discussion of Chris Caldwell writing a whole book on this (released in 2020). https://t.co/5D5WGq3KRG

— Clean Observer (@Hammbear2024) January 13, 2024

The biggest distortion of them doing it is that mainstream media figures, somehow, don't internalize the how widespread the uptake of this view is on the right because they assume it is an argument being made by freaks.

— Clean Observer (@Hammbear2024) January 13, 2024

This would be hilarious if Witchfinder General Sam Alito didn't think the exact same thing. https://t.co/J00kNUnKIE

— zeddy (@Zeddary) January 12, 2024

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  1. 1.

    Harrison Wesley

    January 14, 2024 at 9:10 pm

    Despicable.  There are probably better words, but I can’t think of one at the moment.  And this is just the kind of nasty, mindless shit that the White-Booted Pudding Tickler will glom onto when he returns in disgrace from the icy plains of the Midwest.

  2. 2.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2024 at 9:13 pm

    This would be hilarious if Witchfinder General Sam Alito didn’t think the exact same thing.

    How long until they repeal this one, too?

  3. 3.

    Mousebumples

    January 14, 2024 at 9:17 pm

    Open thread, so I’m going off topic –

    I believe in Love!

    Excited about the potential in this young Green Bay Packers roster, in the post Rodgers era. And my inner fanatic looooves watching the Cowboys lose. Especially after all those horrific 90s losses.

    #GoPackGo 🧀

  4. 4.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2024 at 9:18 pm

    I can read English fairly well, but I just don’t understand about half of those Tweets. It’s like listening to cricket commentary.

  5. 5.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 14, 2024 at 9:20 pm

    finds a new way to monetize his humiliation fetish

    A healthier expression of Charlie Kirk’s humiliation fetish would be more therapeutic and less cynically hate mongering for money.

    I’d offer to show him the way, but his sorry ass ain’t worth my time.

  6. 6.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 14, 2024 at 9:22 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Same here. Replace cricket commentary, which I understand with football commentary.

  7. 7.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2024 at 9:24 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I should’ve included the tag ‘I read these morons so you don’t have to.’

  8. 8.

    Tony G

    January 14, 2024 at 9:25 pm

    Almost 13 years ago, Rand Paul stated that he was opposed to the 1964 Civil Rights Act.  I guess Rand was a little bit ahead of his time.  He’s still representing the idiot white people of Kentucky in the Senate.   https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91287-paul-says-he-would-have-opposed-1964-civil-rights-act/

  9. 9.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 14, 2024 at 9:26 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I’m not especially online, but what are you having trouble with?

  10. 10.

    eclare

    January 14, 2024 at 9:27 pm

    @Mousebumples:

    Enjoy the victory!

  11. 11.

    eclare

    January 14, 2024 at 9:28 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    And we thank you for that!

  12. 12.

    RSA

    January 14, 2024 at 9:30 pm

    Charlie Kirk is just 30? Wow. He looks a decade older to me. Take note, movement conservatives…

  13. 13.

    eclare

    January 14, 2024 at 9:32 pm

    @RSA:

    All of them have aged poorly.  Kellyanne Conway is only about two years older than I am, I was shocked when I found out.

  14. 14.

    Jay

    January 14, 2024 at 9:33 pm

    @RSA:

    Hate, and nothing but hate, ages one,……..

  15. 15.

    Tehanu

    January 14, 2024 at 9:38 pm

    Where is the damn meteor when we need it?

  16. 16.

    ColoradoGuy

    January 14, 2024 at 9:39 pm

    Open advocacy for slavery is not far away, maybe two or three years at this rate. After women lose their vote in the Red states.

  17. 17.

    Turgidson

    January 14, 2024 at 9:39 pm

    @Suzanne:

    If Alito was Chief Justice, they probably would have already done it.

  18. 18.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 14, 2024 at 9:45 pm

    All that is missing is the hood.

    And torches. Hoods and torches.

    And white robes. Hoods and torches and white robes.

  19. 19.

    coin operated

    January 14, 2024 at 9:55 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Did you leave out the burning crosses on purpose? The burning crosses are certainly next

  20. 20.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 14, 2024 at 10:03 pm

    @Suzanne:

    How long until they repeal this one, too?

    Roberts, being mindful of the public’s distain for the SCOTUS will broker a compromise decision to only repeal 3/5ths of the Civil Rights Act — for now.

  21. 21.

    waspuppet

    January 14, 2024 at 10:06 pm

    “MLK was awful,” Kirk said. “He’s not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn’t believe.”

    That’s conservatism in three sentences right there. Absolute classical racism combined with the Trumpian domestic-abuse dynamic embodied in “He didn’t actually believe it.”

    He knows the conservative old guard is dying off and they want to make sure the younger set are carrying on the traditions. There’s a lot of money in it, too.

  22. 22.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2024 at 10:07 pm

    @coin operated

    From back when, Vaughn Meader.

  23. 23.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 14, 2024 at 10:08 pm

    @coin operated: ​ 

    I was just focused on the parade, not the final ceremony.

  24. 24.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 14, 2024 at 10:08 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: ​ 

    Ba-dum-tssh!

  25. 25.

    Mai Naem mobile

    January 14, 2024 at 10:15 pm

    I can’t believe the polls between Biden and TFG are close. I can’t believe TFG appears to be running away with the GOP nomination. I just honestly cannot believe that people have memory holed Nov 2019-Jan, 2021.  I can’t believe people will vote for a guy with 90+ serious charges against him. Even if you like the guy, don’t you go with somebody with less baggage? The world of US politics has just gone bonkers.

  26. 26.

    jurassicpork

    January 14, 2024 at 10:17 pm

    I am making a plea to all of you. My life’s being dismantled by forces beyond my control. My fiancee died last year & that was just the start. More details are in the link beneath. I have nowhere else to turn.
    https://welcomebacktopottersville.blogspot.com/2024/01/old-age-is-curse.html

  27. 27.

    Evan

    January 14, 2024 at 10:17 pm

    A part of me is pleased that at least they aren’t pretending King was on their side anymore. It was always pretty sickening.

  28. 28.

    mvr

    January 14, 2024 at 10:19 pm

    I think the article’s use of “strategy” and “heavyweights” to describe what Kirk is up to and the figures with whom he appeared was a stretch or perhaps irony too subtle for my literal mind.

  29. 29.

    Mike in NC

    January 14, 2024 at 10:20 pm

    There is no bottom to the modern Trumpubican Party. They waited 50 years for this piece of shit to show up.

  30. 30.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 14, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    @Evan: A part of me is pleased that at least they aren’t pretending King was on their side anymore. It was always pretty sickening.

    He didn’t mean all that -> He actually agreed with us -> He was wrong and the legacy of his generations’ activists should be destroyed

    Every specious argument Republicans make manages to evolve as a clear understanding of the failings of its older form become clear to the public. Once sufficient arguments fail, they collapse under their own weight and supernova. This results in every prior argument reemerfing alongside a heartt “because fuck you, I can obtain power.”

  31. 31.

    Citizen Alan

    January 14, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    @Harrison Wesley:  Hillary was so kind and respectful when she called them Deplorables. They are the utter scum of the universe.

  32. 32.

    Spanky

    January 14, 2024 at 10:26 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Thank god it wasn’t just me. Though I’ve noticed a decline in my reading comprehension with advancing years, I didn’t think it had gotten that bad.

  33. 33.

    Citizen Alan

    January 14, 2024 at 10:27 pm

    @ColoradoGuy: Mike Huckabee has already noted on his radio show that the 13th Amendment permits slavery as a criminal punishment, so he doesn’t understand why we can’t lease convicts out to private businesses for the duration of their sentences.

  34. 34.

    Marmot

    January 14, 2024 at 10:29 pm

    @Tehanu: I hate your defeatism.

  35. 35.

    coin operated

    January 14, 2024 at 10:29 pm

    @NotMax: never heard that one before…that was FUNNY!

  36. 36.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2024 at 10:31 pm

    Not to sound like a broken record, but the jurassic dude above has been trolling with similar begging stories for decades across many, many blogs. Do not engage.

  37. 37.

    Leto

    January 14, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    @Citizen Alan: He’s seen the Shawshank Redemption a few too many times, and missed all the points every time.

  38. 38.

    prostratedragon

    January 14, 2024 at 10:43 pm

    “That Old Feeling,” Lena Horne

  39. 39.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    January 14, 2024 at 10:59 pm

    @Citizen Alan: Huck for slavery. Newt for child labor. Who says the Republican Party doesn’t have ideas?

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2024 at 11:04 pm

    @prostratedragon

    You might be OLD….
    ;)

  41. 41.

    karen marie

    January 14, 2024 at 11:09 pm

    “For a while, Dr. King’s stock was very much on the rise in conservative circles and the Republican Party,” says John Wood Jr., a Republican activist. “It’s been understood on the right that even though Dr. King wasn’t really one of us politically, he was still a ‘good liberal.’”

    Mr. Wood was drunk when he said this, right?

    Apparently nobody has told Mr. Wood that Republicans have been trying to claim that MLK was a member of their party for decades.

    Was he still an infant in 2016?

  42. 42.

    Lyrebird

    January 14, 2024 at 11:17 pm

    @Anne Laurie: ​And may Murphy bless you for it! ETA: there’s no way I could do what you do, and I appreciate the warning.
    Rancid bile source is probably someone Dr. King would be honored to be distrusted by. ETA: certainly not surprised.

    @Evan:
      agreed!​

  43. 43.

    karen marie

    January 14, 2024 at 11:20 pm

    From Heather Cox Richardson’s January 14, 2024 Letters From An American:

    Dr. King told the audience that, if God had let him choose any era in which to live, he would have chosen the one in which he had landed. “Now, that’s a strange statement to make,” King went on, “because the world is all messed up. The nation is sick. Trouble is in the land; confusion all around…. But I know, somehow, that only when it is dark enough, can you see the stars.” Dr. King said that he felt blessed to live in an era when people had finally woken up and were working together for freedom and economic justice.

    Just keep putting one foot in front of the other, folks.

  44. 44.

    prostratedragon

    January 14, 2024 at 11:21 pm

    @NotMax:  “Might???” Actually, a person only need be over 35 or so to remember some of these things clearly.

  45. 45.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2024 at 11:26 pm

    How do you say “OMG” in Icelandic?

  46. 46.

    eclare

    January 14, 2024 at 11:28 pm

    @NotMax:

    Oh it’s so sad to see homes burn.

  47. 47.

    Jackie

    January 14, 2024 at 11:29 pm

    @Mousebumples: And go Lions go! Rooting against 49ers.  Whoever takes the Niners out is my hero.

    Back to scheduled programming.

  48. 48.

    Jackie

    January 14, 2024 at 11:34 pm

    @NotMax: Can’t he/she be banned? I know JC doesn’t ban easily, but this person needs vanishing.

  49. 49.

    Leto

    January 14, 2024 at 11:35 pm

    OT question: wtf is up with Trumpov’s white hat? All the shit stains are super excited about it, but I’m out of the loop as to the meaning of it.

  50. 50.

    eclare

    January 14, 2024 at 11:44 pm

    @Leto:

    I think his caucus chairs each get one. Other than that, I got nothin’.

  51. 51.

    Jim Appleton

    January 14, 2024 at 11:47 pm

    If the content of your character mainly malappropriates a powerful call for equality to mean “your emphasis on my skin color is racist,” you know and understand how deeply you value inequality.

  52. 52.

    Ruckus

    January 14, 2024 at 11:48 pm

    @Harrison Wesley:

    There are better words but they all only have 4 letters and while we are free to use them here it doesn’t really seem that they accurately describe the level of drivel that comes out of many/most conservative verbal orifices, which in their cases is the outlet end of the throat.

  53. 53.

    prostratedragon

    January 14, 2024 at 11:57 pm

    @Leto:  Those caps make him look to me at bit like Donald Duck.

  54. 54.

    Joey Maloney

    January 14, 2024 at 11:57 pm

    @Tony G: I think that was the last time any Republican was dumb enough to do an interview with Rachel Maddow. She had Rand on her show and absolutely pinned him to the wall on this. It was just brutal, and a thing of beauty to watch.

  55. 55.

    wjca

    January 14, 2024 at 11:59 pm

    @Leto: wtf is up with Trumpov’s white hat?

    Well, they needed a way to show who was in charge, and should be blindly followed, vs who were the marks followers.  They wanted something patriotic.  The mob already had red hats.  And naturally blue was unthinkable.  So white was it.

  56. 56.

    Shalimar

    January 15, 2024 at 12:14 am

    @jurassicpork: I do sympathize, but as NotMax says, you have been coming here asking for money for a long time.  This is a very giving community.  It helps people all the time.  But I never see you here except when you need money.  Most people don’t recognize you as part of that community.  Hopefully you can find help from somewhere.

  57. 57.

    NotMax

    January 15, 2024 at 12:18 am

    @Jackie

    Until such time, while I don’t follow every thread, I’ll continue repeating warnings about him whenever I do see him pop up.

  58. 58.

    NotMax

    January 15, 2024 at 12:35 am

    @Shalimar

    While he may have been around earlier, I can date his same stunts/scams back to 2004 (because looked it up) when another blog in which first encountered them initially went online.

  59. 59.

    Miss Bianca

    January 15, 2024 at 11:04 am

    Any of these Confederate wanna-be thugs wanting to go back to the 1850s should actually *read* about the 1850s first. Just sayin’.

    (taking a quick break from reading about the 1850s, personally!)

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