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Timeline Cleanser: Inside Kamala Harris & Doug Emhoff’s L.A.

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Just a nice, upbeat, chatty beat-sweetener, for a respite. From the L.A. Times:

… In a city full of celebrities and A-listers, Vice President Kamala Harris and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff’s presence is hard to escape.

On a mid-October weekend, the couple came to town to celebrate the marriage of Emhoff’s 29-year-old son, Cole Emhoff, to his longtime girlfriend, Greenley Littlejohn, 28. Two days after the wedding, the pair was snacking on guacamole, salsa and chips in a dimly lighted vinyl booth upstairs at one of their favorite Mexican haunts, El Cholo in Santa Monica, when Emhoff received a text message from a friend.

The second gentleman’s buddy was just saying hello: He knew Emhoff was in town because he’d seen the motorcade speed by. (So much for sneaking into town)…

For Harris, the impulse to escape Washington — where she faces Republican scorn and criticism within her own party — for downtime at home has been difficult to satisfy over the last few years. While President Biden has made a near weekly habit of returning home to neighboring Delaware, the taxpayer-funded, cross-country flight to L.A. is harder to justify unless it includes official business. Harris’ trips home to L.A. are often camouflaged with an event to celebrate a local small business or a stop to raise awareness about one of her policy focuses such as Black maternal healthcare or reproductive rights. The vice president was also anchored to Washington during the first half of her term to cast tiebreaking votes in an evenly divided Senate.

But the Brentwood home, largely concealed by its verdant surroundings, has become a sanctuary for one of the world’s most visible figures. The four-bedroom, 3,500-square-foot house, less than a mile from Sunset Boulevard and roughly a 10-minute drive from the Will Rogers State Historic Park, is off-limits to reporters. In October, a group of protesters pulled up in cars outside to call for a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas war, though Harris wasn’t there to hear their pleas.

As vice president, Harris is briefed multiple times a day, and reporters often follow her from event to event. But at home, Harris can avoid the scrutiny to recharge, cooking and chatting with her family as they watch from the kitchen table…

The menu often features a dish that takes at least five hours to prepare, Harris said, which varies from a simmering Bolognese to a roast chicken using herbs from her backyard garden.

She’s also tried to incorporate her international travel into the end-of-week ritual, making time to speak to hotel chefs about local recipes and where to stop to find ingredients on the way to the airport. The day before our interview, Harris selected a recipe she picked up during a November 2022 visit to Bangkok for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit: a pork dish marinated in coriander root and served with lemongrass over coconut rice.

“I freaked the Secret Service out because they’re kind of used to going to, like, golf courses with their principal,” she said, laughing at the memory of directing her motorcade to a Bangkok market. “With me, they’re going to the fish market.”

If the schedule allows, Harris will stop for ingredients, whether that’s detouring to a market in Kauai, Hawaii, for a certain type of fish or finding the right spices in Bangkok, according to a former Secret Service agent on her detail who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss sensitive security information…

But she tries to return the favor by inviting the Secret Service agents tasked with protecting her inside the Brentwood home, the only outsiders seemingly allowed to puncture the sanctuary. On the Fourth of July, Harris and Emhoff grill in the backyard for the agents forced to spend the holiday in L.A., handing out plates of hot dogs, hamburgers, potato salad, baked beans and other barbecue favorites. Unlike previous White House protectees, Harris not only cooks the food but serves it, the agent said…

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  1. 1.

    Scout211

    Nice.  Thanks, AL. I love reading about the Veep and the 2nd G, especially positive stories like this one.

  5. 5.

    Mathguy

    I read a piece in the Guardian about the book coming out claiming that Harris is a horrible manager, campaign is a shitshow and the usual BS you hear from “anonymous former staffers.” If you’re going to make allegations like that, don’t be an asshole-own it, otherwise there is zero credibility. I generally like the Guardian, but that piece was garbage.

  12. 12.

    Scout211

    @zhena gogolia: I think maybe the author got the beef and chicken bolognese mixed up in her story.

    This for beef bolognese sauce:

    How long should you simmer bolognese for?

    Reduce heat to low and simmer, stirring often, until mixture cooks down into a thick sauce, at least 3 hours but preferably 4 to 6 hours. Skim fat from the top of sauce if desired. Add more water if sauce is too thick. Taste and adjust seasonings before serving.

  15. 15.

    Geminid

    Did anyone watch Vice President Harris on The View today? I don’t get TV, so I’m wondering what people thought.

  16. 16.

    bbleh

    Insiders say the Veep (as she secretly loves to be called) routinely depends on a trusted aide or two for the cooking “she” does, and everybody knows there’s no such thing as a “detour” on Kaua’i, but their unbuttoned style is so refreshing compared to the stuffiness of a winter White House with an 80-year-old running things that a lot of L.A. is willing to cut them a serious break.

    🤮

  19. 19.

    Almost Retired

    After this article originally appeared in the Los Angeles Times there were a bunch of letters to the editor bitching about Westside traffic whenever the Veep was in town (as if the 405 were clear sailing otherwise).  Happily the next round of printed letters excoriated the traffic cranks.

    I have never met the Second Gentleman, but a buddy of mine worked with him when he was a partner at Venable here in Los Angeles, and said he was a genuine mensch and liked by everyone.  So if that stupid book also trashes him and quotes disgruntled associates, it’s a lie.

    ETA. El Cholo in Santa Monica is excellent, although the original on Western is even better.  So on top of all her other qualities, her taste in Mexican food is exemplary.

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    Interesting article. I didn’t know that the VP lives in Brentwood. I always associated her with the Bay Area.

  28. 28.

    dmsilev

    So, inevitably, after that piece ran in the print edition of the LA Times, there were a set of letters printed complaining about all the traffic holdups caused by her security team and the rest of the …infrastructure that follows a VP or P around.

    Followed, of course, by another spate of letters pointing out that it’s Los Angeles, just how on Earth could you tell that something is making freeway traffic _worse_.

    (I was living in Hyde Park during most of the Obama Presidency. People complained there as well, though that was mostly not traffic but rather because the security perimeter encompassed several blocks of, you know, places that lots of people actually lived and worked in. It was a royal pain whenever he was in town)

  30. 30.

    Geminid

    @bbleh: I have a friend who’s way into the digital world but still watches The View regularly on her television. She’s in Thailand right now so I can’t ask her. A lot of folks just find this type of show on YouTube, but I use up my high speed data early in the month and any video I watch gets buffered so I don’t do this myself. But that was a high profile appearance with fairly friendly hosts, so I hope VP Harris did well.

  31. 31.

    FastEdD

    I’ve been to that restaurant and I can see why they like it. Not cheap but not too fancy. Good food and a quiet dark place to talk. The report about cooking food and feeding it to the Secret Service people resonates with me. I remember when we got enough money to feed our students breakfast before they had to take standardized tests. At first it felt demeaning to us teachers, but if it helped the kids do better (it did) on those awful things, I was all for it. Then I realized it changed the whole dynamic. I wasn’t just giving the kids a test, I was giving them goodies and pulling for them. I was on their side. I bet it feels that way to the Secret Service people too.

  34. 34.

    Jackie

    @Geminid: This Faux commentator did – and had nothing but praise for Kamala!

    “Very powerful’: Ex-Trump spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany heaps praise on GOP’s longtime foe

    Although Fox News personalities regularly use Vice President Kamala Harris as a punchline, former Trump spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnamy warned the network’s viewers that Harris seems to have upped her game heading into the 2024 presidential election.

    After playing clips of Harris talking about abortion rights on ABC’s “The View,” McEnany speculated that Harris has been through some media training because her presentation on the program was much better than in past interviews.

    “She’s on a show whose audience is mainly women,” McEnany explained. ” You saw it, she brought up abortion again and again and again, even when she was given low-hanging fruit. She was asked about January 6th and 91 indictments against Trump — she pivoted right back to abortion.”

    “She knows what is true, which is that the GOP has lost every single abortion ballot initiative post-Roe — every single one,” she said. “She knows that abortion ballot initiatives will be on ten states, at least, and swing states. So she wants to drive young women to the polls.”

    “What Kamala is doing, right or wrong, is very powerful among young women,” she concluded.

    https://www.rawstory.com/kayleigh-mcenany-2666983321/

    I DVD’d it, but haven’t watched it yet. Now I will for sure!

  35. 35.

    Another Scott

    @Mathguy:

    Hunter Walker
    @hunterw
    Jan 16

    We did extensive reporting for this book and the portrait of the VP is more nuanced than this suggests.

    One thing that’s interesting is some in the WH credit her with pushing the Dems to hone in on abortion, which was crucial to the midterms success.

    The Truce

    An inside story of the Democratic Party at a moment of great peril., The Truce, Progressives, Centrists, and the Future of the Democratic Party, Hunter Walker, Luppe B Luppen, 9781324020387

    wwnorton.com
    Jan 16, 2024 · 8:16 PM UTC

    I’m shocked, shocked that the Guardian might have printed a slanted story!!1

    (Yes, Luppe Luppen is his real name, and he’s nycsouthpaw. Walker is the co-author.)

    FWIW.

    (I haven’t read the book and am not likely to no matter how good or bad it is.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  36. 36.

    Matt McIrvin

    @schrodingers_cat: It is a truism among superhero comics fans that Batman is clever and determined enough to accomplish anything, including defeating Superman, given sufficient prep time. Perhaps Kamala Harris is like Batman.

  37. 37.

    Steeplejack

    The book is The Truce: Progressives, Centrists, and the Future of the Democratic Party, by Hunter Walker (@hunterw) and Luppe B. Luppen (@nycsouthpaw)

    Walker:

    Some of the news from our book is starting to leak out.

    @nycsouthpaw and I talked to staffers for Kamala Harris who said “this person should not be president” and discussed a “toxic climate” in the VP’s office.

    We did extensive reporting for this book and the portrait of the VP is more nuanced than this suggests.

    One thing that’s interesting is some in the WH credit her with pushing the Dems to hone in on abortion, which was crucial to the midterms success.”

    I guess we’ll see when the book comes out. It wouldn’t be unusual for The Guardian—or another outlet—to cherry-pick the most inflammatory details for clickbait.

    @nycsouthpaw is a good political/​legal commenter whom I follow on Nitter.

  39. 39.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @dmsilev: I used to work in Brentwood and it was an absolute traffic nightmare.  It would sometimes take me 30-45 minutes just to get to the 405/Sepulveda, only a couple miles away. At rush hour you’re just kinda trapped there.  One of the worst locations/commutes I have ever had in LA (and I’ve had many).

  42. 42.

    trollhattan

    Greenley Littlejohn, of the Atherton Littlejohns?

    If my kid had gone to Vassar, I’ll bet she would have met at least one Greenley.

  43. 43.

    Elizabelle

    @Almost Retired:  Re Michael Hiltzik from the previous thread:  not saying he comments here, but he has quoted David Anderson and what he wrote on Balloon Juice in a column on healthcare a few years back, so he clearly checks in on the blog, at least once.

    Hope he does not retire for years and years and years.

  44. 44.

    Ken

    @dmsilev: Followed, of course, by another spate of letters pointing out that it’s Los Angeles, just how on Earth could you tell that something is making freeway traffic _worse_.

    Ah yes, like those truckers who were protesting* and decided to slow traffic by circling the DC beltway, not realizing that their efforts would be unnoticeable.

    * Often “protesting” is followed by the object of protest, but I don’t believe anyone ever figured out what that would be.

  45. 45.

    Elizabelle

    @Steeplejack:  Why I never give The Guardian, or NPR, a penny.

    Too much disparagement, particularly for The Guardian.  They had people who believed Tara Reade (the liar who accused Biden).

  46. 46.

    dmsilev

    @Ken: I remember that. “We’re going to slow the Beltway to a crawl!”

    “Oh, you mean like it does on its own pretty much every day?”

  47. 47.

    H.E.Wolf

    I’ve never been a big fan of mocking people’s names, because many of my classmates made fun of my name when I was a kid, and it hurt like hell.

    I’m always surprised when adults do it.

  48. 48.

    Pink Tie

    Good, good, good for Kamala Harris focusing on reproductive rights. It is what every one of us should be focusing on. Half of the global population has to worry about when, whether & how many children to bear and how much it will fuck up their earning/career prospects. It creates codependency and traps women into relationships they could otherwise feel free to leave. I say this as a parent who loves my children but would never accede to legislators, judges, DAs or the legal office of a hospital taking those choices away from ME. I’m a single issue voter on this.

  50. 50.

    Dangerman

    @Almost Retired: The 405 isn’t driven; it’s survived.

    I can’t recall the last time I did Sepulveda Pass and it’s been ages since I got near LAX. And LAX plus the Pass? Grounds for divorce (if I was married).

  52. 52.

    karen marie

    @Geminid: I saw a ten-minute clip.  The conversation was about racism.  She seemed very cautious  and hesitant.   I’m Team Biden/Harris, so it won’t affect my vote but I’m not sure the appearance won over any fence-sitters.

  54. 54.

    Almost Retired

    @Dangerman: My wife commuted from our home in the South Bay to Sherman Oaks in the Valley for ten years until she retired in 2022.  She claims books on tape and podcasts made it tolerable, but I suspect she was stoned.

  56. 56.

    Tom Levenson

    @Elizabelle: Hiltzik is great–and I’ve had some personal interaction with him (though we’ve never met in meatspace). He was the head of the Pulitzer jury I was on some time ago, and we’ve stayed in touch since. He’s been a mensch on the COVID lab-leak story, and we’ve talked about that a bunch.

    Tons of respect for him. Real reporter and a pull no punches writer.

  58. 58.

    Almost Retired

    @Tom Levenson:  As I mentioned downstairs, he’s far and away my favorite columnist.  I tried to fanboi stalk him at an LA Times book fair some years ago, but I couldn’t get close enough to embarrass myself with creepy gushiness.

  60. 60.

    Dangerman

    @Almost Retired: Depending on South Bay location, it would range from intolerable (say, Manhattan Beach) to just shoot me (say RPV, which I loved if I could stay on the Peninsula).

  61. 61.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @Almost Retired:  Wow, that’s a nightmare commute.  Even Brentwood to Sherman Oaks (my old commute) was bad enough.  My wife commuted from Altadena to the Getty as well as the Getty Villa in Malibu for several years.  I would’ve ended up killing someone if I had to do either.

  62. 62.

    Elizabelle

    @Tom Levenson:  Cool.  Michael Hiltzik is better than several of the FTF NY Times columnists put together (leaving aside Paul Krugman).

    I guess because he writes clearly and explains very well (usually explaining that Republicans and actual conservatives are full of it), he just does not get the national audience.  I don’t watch television, but I don’t recall him showing up as a guest.

    Is a mystery.  Glad to hear he has mucho fans here.   I guess you have just made us separated by two from him  Way cool.

    I liked David Cay Johnston a lot too.  Guess he is long retired, alas.

  63. 63.

    Jeffro

    OT but NBC News reporting that trumpov is “seriously considering” Stefanik for VP

    hmmm…now where did I hear that earlier this week?  =)

  64. 64.

    Elizabelle

    Also, Doug Emhoff did a lot of campaign appearances on behalf of Abigail Spanberger.  He is approachable and seems a genuinely nice man.  Not full of himself (as the occasional special guest can be).

  66. 66.

    MomSense

    My cousin has attended a number of parties and functions at the Veep’s DC residence.  She hosts a lot of functions for women governors, democratic activists/organizers and members of Congress.  From what I have been told, she’s the real deal – warm, funny, brilliant, gracious, and a fabulous cook.  The second gentleman could not be nicer.

  67. 67.

    Geminid

    Any Richard Thompson fans here? He has 16 concerts scheduled from March 1 to April 26, starting in Mamaroneck, New York. Most of tbe rest are in the Northeast but three are in Annapolis, Richmond and Vienna, Virginia. I’m guessing that last one is at Wolf Trap.

  70. 70.

    Elizabelle

    @Geminid:  I saw today that Herb Alpert is touring in May with Lani Hall.  Think I might have to go see him, although sure I will tear up because he was a favorite of my parents, both gone.

    A&M Records, if he never lifted an instrument.  Amazing guy.

  71. 71.

    Almost Retired

    @UncleEbeneezer:  Oh my. Altadena to Malibu is inconceivable unless you’re a crow.  And even then.   Mrs Almost Retired was a High School Vice Principal so she left home very early to be there before the students and staff but could leave work at 3:30.  Still sucked.

  73. 73.

    Jackie

    @Jeffro: I read that, and first thought was per TIFG’s beauty standards, she’s not his type.

    But then I realized, if he indeed feels the need to choose a woman for VP, Melania might have some say… and, although Melania and TIFG have a bizarro relationship, Melania HATED(S) Ivanka and her close (sick) relationship with TIFG, IF he chooses a woman, Melania is going to make sure “that woman” isn’t TIFG’s idea of attractive. So Elise Stefanic would be acceptable. Not Noem or Mace. Or MTG – who isn’t TIFG’s idea of attractive, but Melania’s version of trashy.

  76. 76.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @Almost Retired: My wife was thrilled to work at the Getty’s and at the time she was a smoker so she just puffed away and generally didn’t mind it, but yeah, on a bad day it could be 2.5-3 hours.  The stuff of nightmares…

  80. 80.

    Jackie

    @Elizabelle: I played cornet through high school and Herb Albert and the Tijuana Band’s music was very popular and FUN to play at halftime and parades. Also Al Hirt.

  81. 81.

    TS

    @TBone:

    And your media report HAS to include this

    Donald Trump, called the “most pro-life president” by anti-abortion activists and national organizations alike, has already won the Iowa Republican caucuses handily

    When Biden wins at 50% – he just scrapes in – but TIFG wins handily. If he hadn’t won, that would have been newsworthy

    The media just has to support trump with its adjectives/adverbs – they just can’t stop it.

  82. 82.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I evidently missed the news earlier that the wonderful Peter Schickele — aka P.D.Q. Bach — died yesterday at the age of 84. Funny, funny guy. I wore out most of his records, sang some of his choral music, and saw him twice in concert. He wasn’t just a comedian; he was a solid musician. This one bites hard. R.I.P., P.D.Q.

    CORRECTION: He was 88.

  83. 83.

    Jeffro

    @Jackie: I dunno about any Melania-related considerations.  What I do know is that he needs a woman on the ticket, one who is loyal, one who won’t outshine him, and one who will be a vicious surrogate for him at every turn.

    She-Veep doesn’t have to be a complete Barbie (like Noem or Britt).

    Also, this is not completely his decision…in theory, he’s the final ‘decider’ but he’s being run by his new and (unfortunately) competent campaign manager Susie Wiles.  She’ll want someone who might have a chance at reassuring suburban ‘swing’ moms that it’s ok to vote for trump, and Stefanik comes across as much more of a plain-Jane than Noem or Britt.

    We’ll see.

  84. 84.

    Jackie

    @zhena gogolia:

    “During a candlelit dinner with Mar-a-Lago members in late December, former President Donald Trump walked around the table as the conversation turned to one of the biggest decisions he’d have to make should he become the Republican nominee: Whom should he pick to be his running mate?,” NBC Newsreports.

    “That’s when Rep. Elise Stefanik, the hard-charging upstate New York Republican, came up, according to a person at the dinner table. Attendees around Trump raved about her viral moment just weeks before, when she grilled three university presidents at a congressional hearing about antisemitism on campus.”

    “At the thought of Stefanik as a possible choice for vice president, Trump nodded approvingly.”

    Said Trump: “She’s a killer.”

  85. 85.

    Geminid

    @Elizabelle: Johnny Mathis played Charlottesville last fall. I did not go hear him sing, but I was prompted to read about his life., and it was pretty interesting. Growing up in San Francisco, Mathis took singing lessons from a good voice teacher in exchange for chores.

    As a young man, Mathis was also a superb athlete, especially as a high jumper. He was even invited to try out for the US Olympic team in 1956. Mathis chose to make a critical singing audition at a New York studio instead.

    Mathis was still only the second best high school high jumper in the Bay Area. Bill Russell was a little bit better.

  86. 86.

    TS

    @zhena gogolia:

    If he chooses Stefanik, I’ll eat my hat.

    If he choses any woman, I’ll join you. A female running with trump would be a gift to democrats and the pro abortion rights activists. Non-stop questions on why she wants her body controlled by government. Why she wants to force people to have children, why she wants hospitals to refuse health care for women & simply let them die.

  94. 94.

    zhena gogolia

    Goddamn, I thought Jan. 6 was it. I thought, at least we won’t have him to worry about any more. Goddamn, I am SO FUCKING SICK of thinking about him, hearing about him, his very existence on this planet. I hate him.

  96. 96.

    ColoradoGuy

    TFIG choosing any woman for VP seems like a stretch. They’re sex objects to him, something to be used and thrown away. And anyone stealing the limelight from him, or even having a life of their own, is completely intolerable.

    What he wants are absolutely devoted cult followers (MAGA, Q-Anon), and fellow conspirators. Pence was useful (once) in attracting fundamentalists. Now they have joined his cult, it’s a good question who he will use next.

    His cult followers have become more out of contact with reality and more bloodthirsty since Jan 6 and the invasion of Ukraine. We’re way past the fascist-lite Orban of 2018. My guess is someone with Nazi-adjacent cred, since TFIG’s new image has become a free-association Night of the Long Knives.

  99. 99.

    cain

    @Jeffro: awesome – that means the GOP loses another member making their majority even smaller.

    I wonder if she is stupid enough to take it?

  100. 100.

    cain

    @Jackie:

    Why would Melania even give a shit? I mean they sleep in separate quarters and the man excrement smell coming of of him and he wears a diaper that likely has shit in it.

    ETA ohhhyeah, 99 and 100 – I’m gooooooood! Also my remarks has a lot of shit in it. My apologies.

  101. 101.

    eclare

    @zhena gogolia:

    That makes sense.  I never thought I could hate someone as much as I hate him, and part of that is that he just won’t fucking go away!  He dominates the news, ruins sporting events by showing up, interrupted my escape reality show when the network broke in with a SCOTUS pick announcement…it never ends!

  105. 105.

    eclare

    @TBone:

    I yell along with loud music.  I think I listened to Ice Cube after Susan Collins gave that fucking speech in the Senate that ended with her saying that she would vote to confirm boof.

  106. 106.

    AlaskaReader

    @Jackie: She’s a Republican, what political future would you want for her?

    No member of the Republican Party has any redeeming values, …wandering the wilderness is the future I’d prefer, …for each and every one of them.

  107. 107.

    Geminid

     

     

    @ColoradoGuy: Trump doesn’t need someone to appeal to Nazis. He already has the Nazi vote nailed down tight. He needs someone to reassure the old fashioned Republicans, and Independents. That’s why I think Trump will go the conventional route and pick a Governor or a Senator for Vice President.

  108. 108.

    Jackie

    @cain: It’s ok.

    I don’t know what Melania is holding over TIFG’s head, but for whatever reason(s) he truly seems at times cowed by her. He absolutely doesn’t control her as he does his gross spawn.

  110. 110.

    Jackie

    @AlaskaReader: Did I say I wanted a political future for her?

    I listed reasons SHE might want a political future beyond TIFG and the MAGA movement.

    ETA If you read the Politico piece I linked above, I think you’ll see HER reasons to not hitch her future to him.

  114. 114.

    Soprano2

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh no, that’s so sad. I did some of his music in college. We had to rehearse it enough that we didn’t laugh.  “By the waters of Babylon, ee-i-ee-i-o. There we sat down, yay we wept, ee-i-ee-i-o”. 😂😂 He will be missed.

  119. 119.

    wjca

    @AlaskaReader: No member of the Republican Party has any redeeming values.

    A bit on the absolutist side here.  Wouldn’t you say putting one’s oath to the Constitution above personal ambition is valuable? *I* certainly see value in.

    Yet here is someone like Liz Cheney.   Who, however much one dislikes her political views (and I dislike most of them), was willing to blow up a secure political career because she valued democracy more.

  122. 122.

    Pink Tie

    @eclare: It has damaged my mental health since 2016. Like, I haven’t been the same person since then, and part of the frustration is that he shouldn’t be able to mess up my brain to that degree. But my resilience has also eroded. And it has also created so much distrust in my neighbors — I HATE that some of my fellow citizens brought us this nightmare and couldn’t bring themselves to vote for HRC. It’s compounded by what he did to SCOTUS. I have a sexual assault story that is nearly identical to what Brett Kavanaugh did, and I actually had to lock myself into a friend’s car outside a party because my assailant chased me there. And we know Trump has been very credibly accused of sex crimes. So it’s been 7+ years now of having rape reminders in my face every single day. I want him dead.

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