Closing in on the end of the day here, and it appears I have dragged the rain with me, as it rained all day. Still was a productive day. As promised, bread picks:
I got nothing else, although it really sucks about JR. WV needs good men like him.
*** Update ***
I saw this in the kitchen and would like to inform you that Joelle’s crimes against butter continue:
Is she an alien?
trollhattan
Oh lordy John Cole, where the butt cheeks gone?
Still, pretty, pretty good.
Brachiator
@trollhattan:
Beat me to it. I was about to ask about the butt cheek loaf of bread.
O. Felix Culpa
Joelle wins on the saying goodnight thing, but, oy, the crime against butter is unspeakable. And wrong. Very, very wrong.
Scout211
I have no idea what crime Joelle committed on the butter. The butter looks fine to me. But no matter what heinous butter crime she has committed, I will gladly set up a GoFundMe for her defense because I am on her side.
Again. 😉
Suzanne
Dude, she just eats butter. Why TF are you so judgy?! Damn.
billcinsd
@Suzanne: She apparently scoops it with a spoon
Steeplejack
@Suzanne:
Apparently she doesn’t cut it off in ISO-standard “pats.” Tsk.
Suzanne
@billcinsd: @Steeplejack: Um, who cares? It’s yummier when whipped anyway.
Harrison Wesley
@Suzanne: And she’s not doing DeSantis Happy Fingers, either.
Lyrebird
@O. Felix Culpa: This is the right application of a both-sides!
I dunno about wrong, I just don’t have the skill or the patience… cutting straight down is a lot easier.
Thanks JC for the beautiful photos and the laughs!
Steeplejack
@Suzanne:
I keep my unsalted butter in one of those French butter keeper things. And then I have my small tub of salted Kerrygold.
Urza
I’d like to see a post from Joelle explaining how she doesn’t slap him several times a day.
Chetan Murthy
I don’t know if anybody’s look for a recipe, but I can confirm that this is the shiznit: https://www.chopstickchronicles.com/shokupan-japanese-fluffy-white-bread/#recipe
soft, pillowy milkbread. Yum. I sometimes add eggs to it, and it makes a nice brioche-y bread. It’s a very stick dough, and you really want to use a stand mixer (b/c boy howdy you really do want to get serious gluten development).
Yutsano
Dude! It’s butter! There are no hard and fast rules about how to cut/scoop it! Just cut yourself a chunk and get used to the idea that people don’t do things the same way you do.
@Steeplejack: This could just be because I’ve had a steady diet of hospital food for over two weeks, but I seriously want a crock of Kerrygold nearby.
Scout211
I love these “how do we live together” episodes from 1950s television. Where’s the laugh track?
Suzanne
@Yutsano:
For real.
Another Scott
@billcinsd: But does she eat peas with a knife??
;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Ken
I think that’s our contribution here in the comments. Mind you it’s all in the form of snark and mockery, and some nights I’m surprised Cole doesn’t just issue a blanket ban.
mrmoshpotato
@trollhattan:
Yes. Where?
mrmoshpotato
“Pacheco is a beast.” -Andy Reid
Yutsano
@Ken:
Cole is really very tolerant in the comments section and for very good reasons on his part. But tbh I half-expect to be locked out for being mouthy pretty much every morning.
Peke Daddy
Scraping it like that when the butter is cold makes it spreadable so it doesn’t tear the bread.
Jackie
@Urza:
We don’t know that… 🤔
Steeplejack
@Yutsano:
I used to be an unsalted butter purist, but some foodie show person said salted butter is better for “spreading” (as opposed to baking), and I found that to be true. So now I keep a little tub of Kerrygold on hand.
sab
@Another Scott: Isn’t there an Ogden Nash verse about that?
Jackie
I don’t see any bread crumbs stuck on the butter, so all is well.
Anyway
@Chetan Murthy:
OT re your post in last night’s dead thread – I always heard of Limburgher as THE stinkiest stinky cheese. Do let us know if uou seek it out:-)
Devore
@Brachiator:
maybe the latest is unfortunately more realistic
and if you don’t feel like baking. Wildflower bakery on Warner and McClintock has great sourdough on Fridays
Lyrebird
@Jackie: Exactly!
Never met either of them, but I wouldn’t underestimate Joelle for a millisecond!
Don’t know if anyone else might like this Bernie Siegel poem:
opiejeanne
What about JR in WV? What happened?
HumboldtBlue
John and Joelle after the dishes have been done, kitchen straightened up and detailed plans for tomorrow have been set.
dmsilev
@Yutsano: Well, if someone is planning on using that stick of butter for cooking, it’s convenient to be able to measure using the markings on the wrapper, and spooning out the middle prevents that.
Thats the only thing I can think of as to why one should care.
ant
speaking of food, I just discovered a new (to me) “condiment” that I’d never had before.
So so good, and worth a try I think for many people.
The problem with it is it’s just not sold commercially.
You’ll need to make it yourself. I promise it is worth the effort.
It is a Thai condiment called Prik nam pla.
Chili peppers, fish sauce, lime juice, and sugar. The sugar is optional, particularly in that you control how much you want. Garlic, and/or shallot is also recommended.
Chop up the stuff, mix, and away you go.
It’s spicy, salty, sour, AND sweet, balanced, with the allium aromatics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLl3m_JUx4
Ohio Mom
@Peke Daddy: Yes, that’s what my butter looked like until I figured out you can leave the butter dish out on the kitchen counter. It doesn’t go bad and is always spreadable.
Now if the butter is already kept out on the counter, maybe Cole should get his own butter dish and pretend one other one doesn’t exist. Or learn to live with it.
I myself have a very long list of things about Ohio Dad I have learned to live with. I thought marriage was about love and companionship but apparently it is also a lifelong exercise in character building.
mrmoshpotato
@opiejeanne: Sad News About J.R. In WV
Another Scott
@sab: Apparently so!
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@Ohio Mom:
My parents did that when we were kids. A stick was never around long enough to go rancid, but one of our friends thought it was weird.
mrmoshpotato
OT – why does DeathSantis look like a figure from a wax museum?
Jackie
O/T But, I just saw a commercial for KY gel. I usually FF thru commercials, but this one snuck by while I was reading about butter sins.
I was watching a prerecorded program which was actually broadcast at 4 pm. So not B-J after dark hours. Thankfully the grandkiddos were engrossed in their tablets.
dmsilev
@mrmoshpotato: Are we sure it’s just a look?
opiejeanne
@mrmoshpotato: Oh no! I knew he’d been missing but didn’t realize it had been so long.
Thank you.
dnfree
@Lyrebird: Taking the tomatoes out of the refrigerator won’t fix them. They’re ruined. Tomatoes should never go in the refrigerator.
Glidwrith
@dnfree: I’ll bite: why should tomatoes not go in the fridge?
NotMax
Dragged up from downstairs.
Challah sandwich loaf churned out the other day developed a nice pillow top. (My photography sucks, I know. Yet to get the hang of this cell phone gizmo.)
@Another Scott
“Peas mean something.”
:)
NotMax
@dnfree
Tropical clime residents beg to differ.
Lyrebird
@Glidwrith: I think they get mealy, but I am not sure, because I was trained up not to put them in there unless they’re about to spoil and you will cook them into mush the next day.
Yes, and maybe imaginary divorce lawyers aren’t always up on these things… I can’t tell if your comment is snark, but I think the poem is somewhat tongue in cheek, and who knows, maybe they got thhe tomatoes out right away.
wjca
With a knife or folk, what does it matter? All right-thinking people use a spoon.
KrackenJack
I’m holding out for an episode of “The Newlywed Game” with the two of them. Where is Bob Eubanks when you need him?
AlaskaReader
@Brachiator:
@O. Felix Culpa:
@Scout211:
You wanted a Chief’s jersey with Taylor’s name on it?
It’s yours.
29.99
NotMax
@wjca
And that’s why you suspend them in the Jell-O mold, natch.
;)
Pete Mack
You think that butter is bad? Just wait til corn-on-the-cob season.
SectionH
@Another Scott: “Peas with a knife”? Resonates. My great-grandfather was in the Gordon Highlanders and fought quite a lot in Queen Vickie’s “little” wars. Mostly Afghanistan, later South Africa. Yeah, Majuba Hill. He was one of the survivors. In terms of his joining the army, well, it was the only way a lot of Scots then could keep eating and leave the rest of the family to have more… but yeah, my granddad did say that about his father, who never really adapted to civilian life in those sorts of ways. :-)
Ascap_scab
Please proceed, Governor.
different-church-lady
Added to wedding registry: His and Hers butter dishes.
SomeRandomGuy
I’ve known butter top-scrapers, and, the usual occurrence is when the butter is softening too slowly. Since heat transfer from air to butter occurs along sides, the top side softens at roughly the same rate as the ends, but, there’s a lot *more* top that’s softening, while relying on the end-softening often leads to the tragedy of a torn-bread grilled cheese.
Note: I’m not judging the practice good or bad, for other people. For me, I’d heat water to 70+, put the butter in a plastic bag, squeeze out the air, and say “wait 5 minutes,” if a guest was a frequent top-scraper. (I wouldn’t penalize them if they kept scraping the top, but I might buy a separate pack of butter, just for them.)
I do think it’s inexcusable, if you have a dialed in microwave time, to soften one stick of your style of butter, to the point it’s so soft it’s not just sliced, but slightly torn, by the butter knife. (Again: scraping would do no worse than your own butter supply while I’m extending hospitality.)
(Okay: to be brutally fair, I did sometimes penalize butter-top scraping from lady friends who stayed overnight. to the tune of more giggles than yelps, but that’s a game – nothing to do with hospitality. That said, once there was a happy, fun, memory about the issue, it usually stopped.
Redshift
@mrmoshpotato:
The Revenge of Disney? Perhaps they kidnapped him and replaced him with a low-quality animatronic figure, knowing no one would notice the difference?
mrmoshpotato
@Redshift: Now that you mention it…
NotMax
@Redshift
“Take it back to the imagineer shop. Looks much too human.”
West of the Rockies
@Pete Mack:
You slice it off with a knife, top to bottom, about five passes. None of that snarfing and slurping business. I’ve converted my wife to this method.
Roberto el oso
Related to ‘eating peas with a knife’, which I sometimes do …. as I get older it’s a good exercise to maintain eye-motor control. My grandfather only ever used a spoon and a pair of surgical scissors which he wore on a chain around his neck and removed for meals. He would eat everything with the spoon unless it required slicing, which is where the scissors came in handy.
SectionH
Please John, drag rain west to San Diego. They’re saying we’re gonna get a whole Inch in a few places, if we’re lucky! Which I will believe when I see it. Also too, when’s 115F in Tempe, you guys are welcome here. We have guest places in our building.
Joelle, you’re welcome without him too, and both of you, no matter what the temp. John may not be familiar with city ppl who live in apartments, condos, wvs having places where friends/family can stay on their own. I learned. It’s nice. You guys can do what you want, except for one visit to the fishing pier, which is mostly harmless.
lowtechcyclist
@Another Scott:
I eat my peas with honey, I’ve done it all my life.
It does taste sort of funny, but it keeps them on my knife.
SectionH
@lowtechcyclist: Never saw that one before. Or tbf, any other references to peas with a knife besides my Daddy Rob. I’m not sure now about his father: did he just stab every single pea? Sadly, that seems likely to me.
I generally only eat peas with my fingers. Quite srsly. Frozen peas, not exactly thawed, but at the point. I don’t know how I found that I liked peas that way, but I do. There are a lot worse oddities. And snacks.
NotMax
@SectionH
Snacks? Wasabi peas. Mmmmm.
cain
My wife and I are watching the consecration of the new Ram temple in Ayodhya. It’s a big deal for the country and probably being watched all over the world. A worldwide Hindu event which we don’t usually have a lot of that.
Eg Ram returns to Ayodhya.
There is some bloody history in regards to the site of the temple.
Jay
@cain:
It’s being watched here, unfavorably.
Odie Hugh Manatee
If you think that makes her an alien then you need to see the horror of what our household does to a stick of butter.
Top, end, side, corner… nothing’s sacred.
wjca
@SectionH:
It’s not unique. Although, in the version I grew up with, the second line started:
It makes the peas taste funny
NotMax
@wjca
Yup. First heard it over 60 years ago and it was long past voting age then.
;)
HumboldtBlue
Heroes are there even when it’s cold.
opiejeanne
@lowtechcyclist: I thought that was what mashed potatoes were for, to stick the peas to the knife so they wouldn’t roll offl
AlaskaReader
@HumboldtBlue: More context, more than one child fell in, an 80 year old grabbed one of the kids that fell in and two troopers are being lauded for their efforts at rescuing the kids.
SectionH
@NotMax: They’re actually pretty good. But not a snack thing for me. It might depend on the wasabi.
Brachiator
@cain:
Isn’t there some controversy about this temple centered around Modi and Hindu Nationalism?
SectionH
@wjca: I just said it was my only knowledge of it… in fact I’d be amazed if there weren’t many. No worries.
sab
@Glidwrith: They don’t keep longer in there. They just shrivel up faster.
sab
@Another Scott:
@wjca:
@lowtechcyclist:
Odie Hugh Manatee
Carrots are funny. If you harvest them they rot fairly soon. Leave them in the ground and as long as it doesn’t freeze you have carrots to eat. We have some out in our garden that we pull whenever my wife needs them and have enough left to last into spring.
Plus garden grown carrots are really delicious. Well, garden anything….
sab
@mrmoshpotato: Here in Ohio we keep our butter on the counter in its dish. It never has the chance to go bad. We also keep a pound of butter in its box on the counter so that it is soft enough for use in baking. That also never goes bad. We usually use it within a month or so.
Only exception is midsummer, when the butter in its store box tends to liquify. So July and August it goes in the fridge.
Our butter dish has a lid. We had to upgrade to a heavier dish and a tighter lid because of marauding cats on the counter trying to lick the butter.
When I was young my parents disagreed about butter. Dad preferred margarine and Mom insisted on real butter. We kids ate Dad’s margarine because the cat wouldn’t lick it. Mom’s butter always looked a bit worn down. Eroded by cat tongue.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@sab: “Eroded by cat tongue”
Sounds like a DJ naming a song by a death metal band.
Eroded, by Cat Tongue
sab
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Lol.
oldster
I’m glad to see you posting more often, Cole. Looks like you are happy.
The butter thing: whenever my wife does something that irritates me, I think about how many of my habits, mistakes, screw-ups, and deficiencies must bug her. And yet she tolerates them without kvetching. I try to follow her lead. We’ve been together 44 years now.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@Odie Hugh Manatee: According to Teh Intarweebs, “Cat Tongue” has been claimed by a rock-and-roll trio from Annapolis.
Brachiator
Betty Botter bought some butter, but she said,
“This butter’s bitter! If I put it in my batter, it will make my batter bitter. But a bit of better butter will soon make my batter better.”
So she bought some better butter, put it in her bitter batter. AND IT MADE HER BATTER BETTER!
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Brachiator:
@lowtechcyclist: You people are giving me flashbacks to the book of silly poetry I had when I was a kid. I absolutely loved that book. Both those ditties were there, along with two versions of “Purple Cow”, and a lot of limericks and Ogden Nash.
sab
@Bruce K in ATH-GR: Hilarious. My mother might have been horrified or amused. I cannot guess which.
sab
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: My Dad had a complete collection of Ogden Nash. When we moved him to assisted living that collection went to the Humane Society thrift bookstore. Has since moved on. They are good on rehoming dishes, also too books.
I worry about dishes. But Dad’s nurse’s aide and her kids shop there. They like the books and music tapes. Her son is amazed about how good the book and tape collection is.
Ramalama
@Chetan Murthy: noted and bookmarked. Looks good.
Ramalama
I’m guilty of desecrating French soft cheeses. There are 100 different kinds sold in our village and I’ve grown to really love them, but tend to go for the GOO and less of the moldy crust on the outside. Which is unforgivable. I try not to do this around company.
Gemina13
I didn’t eat real butter until I was nearly 20, thanks to the price of it being prohibitive in the ’70s and ’80s and margarine cheap enough for my mother to afford on minimum wage in Phoenix. I found my first taste of real butter strange, but it grew on me fast. These days, I won’t have margarine in the house – not even to use as an emergency substitute for WD-40.
However, I hated scraping butter just to get enough on my bread without tearing it. First, I bought a butter bell. I didn’t much care for it, and started getting spreadable butter by Challenge or Land O’ Lakes. Then my SO bought me an Anchor-Hocking butter dish. The line has since been discontinued, but I love that dish – it’s solid enough to keep the butter fresh, yet the butter is soft and spreadable. And it’s beautiful – unadorned, but with elegant lines.
A stick never lasts long – if I’m not baking, I’m making toast, garlic bread, or scampi. But anything in the butter dish is perfect for buttering bread, hot or cold.
Geminid
This morning’s Politico Playbook tells me that Reps. Barbara Lee, Adam Schiff and Katie Porter plus baseball guy Steve Garvey will debate tonight at USC’s Dornsife Center, time: 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern.
Politico will stream the debate live at their site, and I’m guessing some California TV and radio stations will carry it too.
Also:
The Playbook item said the plan, at least for now, is to stage “around five” of these events.
jimmiraybob
Different people express their wild side in different ways. Is Banksy tagging a wall a crime or art? Respect.
narya
@Gemina13: We never had margarine in the house. My dad grew up with that (or lard?) that you apparently had to add color to separately, so he wanted nothing to do with anything that wasn’t butter. And it turns out that margarine isn’t so great for you anyway, apparently.
Denali5
I do keep cherry tomatoes in the refrigerator. Is it wrong?
Another Scott
@narya: My grandpa and great aunt in Ohio had both in their house on the table. They called margarine “oleo”. I tried to avoid that stuff. But it was a good lesson that (at least away from the topics) one won’t die if one leaves the butter out of the fridge and it works so much better at room temperature.
;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Big Mango
get a butter crock and fill it with Irish butter and get the butter knife with holes
irish butter is a luxury worth paying more for
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Bruce K in ATH-GR:
Figures…lol!
Joelle
@Lyrebird: I love that poem.