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Thursday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  January 25, 202410:02 pm| 64 Comments

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I had an exciting excursion today- I went to a massive Mexican grocery (the El Rancho Market IGA specifically). We’re having fajitas tonight, I needed tortillas, and a bunch of people back east have asked me to look for specific dried peppers, so this seemed like the perfect place.

And it was, and as a bonus, it had a tortilleria. A big portion of the place was nothing but dozens of big 50 lb bags of various flours and a bunch of ladies working on a line as a conveyer belt of tortillas were created. The were making the little corn ones while I was there but I picked up some ones that were made earlier from flour. It was pretty cool and I had left my phone in the car or I would have taken pictures.

Lots of cool things there, but I left with just some limes and tortillas because I didn’t really need much else.

And that is really about it. The cats are doing very well being integrated, with only a couple minor near incidents.

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  1. 1.

    Alison Rose

    January 25, 2024 at 10:11 pm

    There was a place like that close to a friend’s house in the Mission in SF, and the smell from the tortillas being made was divine. To me, that was almost as good as like, cinnamon buns in the oven.

  2. 2.

    pthomas745

    January 25, 2024 at 10:14 pm

    Welcome to diversity!

  3. 3.

    Yarrow

    January 25, 2024 at 10:14 pm

    I had left my phone in the car

    Yikes! I wince just seeing that. Do you want to get your phone stolen?

  4. 4.

    piratedan

    January 25, 2024 at 10:16 pm

    if/when you get to the Old Peublo, you should stop by Teresa’s Mosaic Cafe, they make their tortillas onsite daily, so what you get is fresh.  They’re a bit different than other joints because their dishes are Oaxican based, which means that the sauces and combinations are a tad different than other places in the state, which go from Baja to TexMex to Sonoran styles.

  5. 5.

    Yutsano

    January 25, 2024 at 10:16 pm

    Any ethnic grocery store is fun! But when I used to live really close to a Mexican grocery store I was amazed what I could get there. And the cilantro was amazingly fresh. Like I have never had cilantro last over two weeks in my fridge before. I bet those limes are pretty good too.

  6. 6.

    Ailuridae

    January 25, 2024 at 10:16 pm

    There are few things I miss more from the twenty plus years I lived in Chicago than being able to buy fresh (like off the conveyer fresh) corn tortillas 24 hours a day.  They’re so incredibly different and better than even the best you can do at home (masa harina plus water).  Enjoy!

  7. 7.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 25, 2024 at 10:22 pm

    with only a couple minor near incidents.

    Are you just going to leave that line sitting there?

  8. 8.

    Suzanne

    January 25, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    Carolina’s has the best tortillas.

  9. 9.

    Suzanne

    January 25, 2024 at 10:27 pm

    @Yarrow: Also, once it gets hot, your phone will overheat! Ask me how I know!

  10. 10.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 25, 2024 at 10:28 pm

    @Alison Rose: do you mean http://www.lapalmasf.com/  ?

  11. 11.

    Almost Retired

    January 25, 2024 at 10:28 pm

    @piratedan:  Yeah I do hope John and Joelle can make a side trip to Tucson.  I fell in love with it when my oldest son went there undergrad (along with many other Californians.  They called it UC Tucson).  If California tumbles into the sea, that’ll be the day I retire in Tucson.

  12. 12.

    tam1MI

    January 25, 2024 at 10:31 pm

    Meanwhile, the Michigan Republican party has fully schismed.

    After weeks of infighting, no one knows who’s in charge of the Michigan Republican Party.
    Kristina Karamo, who was elected chairwoman last year, insists she still has the job, even after a sizable group of state party committee members voted to oust her this month. She refuses to leave the post, even as the opposition’s pick to replace her, former Ambassador Pete Hoekstra, issues statements under the state party logo declaring himself the chairman.

    The leadership crisis has resulted in chaos and confusion in what’s expected to be a top battleground state for control of the White House and Senate in 2024.

    May this fight drag on until this time next year….

  13. 13.

    Alison Rose

    January 25, 2024 at 10:36 pm

    @Chetan Murthy: Yeah, that might have been it! This was a while ago so I’m not 100% positive, but she lived a couple blocks from that address.

  14. 14.

    frosty

    January 25, 2024 at 10:48 pm

    @Almost Retired: My best friend from college grew up in Tucson – he took me for my pilgrimage to Rondstadt’s Hardware. I’ve been back a few times, most recently camping in Catalina State Park in 2020. Our next snowbird trip will be heading there instead of DeSantisLand.

  15. 15.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    January 25, 2024 at 10:48 pm

    Apparently there are blue corn tortillas in addition to yellow and white ones. I’ve seen them, but never eaten one.

  16. 16.

    Suzanne

    January 25, 2024 at 10:50 pm

    @frosty: There’s a bar in Tucson called The Buffet. It opens at 5 AM. Apparently some dude got killed with a 2×4 there back in the 70s. It’s kind of an institution.

  17. 17.

    Yarrow

    January 25, 2024 at 10:53 pm

    @Suzanne:  Yep! If you don’t have experience with that kind of heat you have no idea what you’re in for.

  18. 18.

    Alison Rose

    January 25, 2024 at 10:54 pm

    @Chacal Charles Calthrop: I love blue corn chips — I imagine the tortillas would taste as good.

  19. 19.

    piratedan

    January 25, 2024 at 10:58 pm

    @Suzanne: since I’m an old, I no longer have the skinny on the best bars to visit, but many of the ones that I used to frequent are still around, The Maverick, The Bashful Bandit, Berky’s and Chicago Bar.  There are a couple of music venues with the Fox Theatre and 101 Toole having local and touring bands in to play.

    I prefer to just hole up at the house these days and drink on my patio or in the hot tub and look at the city lights…. The University scene is strong, I just don’t swim in it anymore.

  20. 20.

    lamh36

    January 25, 2024 at 11:02 pm

    I just spent the last 2hrs and 45mins of my life finally watching the last Mission Impossible film.  I even live-tweeted my reactions as I watched (for those who follow me on twitter).

    I have my quibbles about it, but Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning is a solid entry into the MI franchise. I know it’s only Part 1, but I can DEF see how Part 2 can be used to either end the franchise for good (I mean only sooo many time TC can dodge death) or…maybe reboot it with a younger cast? If TC ego/vanity won’t allow it, age is GONNA catch up to him eventually, despite what that cult says…

    Anyway, solid film, I’ll def still give it an B+/A score.

    You can check out my full live-tweet of the film here:

    https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/1750685825627541530

    But only if you’ve seen the film, cause there are spoilers in the thread, although I tried to NOT overtly spoill it.

    Right tho, i’m tired AF…I’m not getting any younger just older cause I just can’t stay up like I used to…lol

  21. 21.

    NotMax

    January 25, 2024 at 11:04 pm

    @Yutsano

    Filipino grocery store here is … interesting. In a cultural sociology kind of way.

  22. 22.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 25, 2024 at 11:04 pm

    Marge Greene was serenaded in New Hampshire yesterday.

  23. 23.

    Jackie

    January 25, 2024 at 11:16 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: 🤣

  24. 24.

    Nukular Biskits

    January 25, 2024 at 11:19 pm

    Good … evenin (?), y’all?

    Kinda messed up on what time I’m actually on. My body is still there in MS, the Blogfather is somewhere on AZ time and I’m in the middle of the Pacific.

  25. 25.

    Jackie

    January 25, 2024 at 11:20 pm

    I’m shocked! What’s that saying about smoke and fire?

    Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) privately admitted that he was going after Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) because the House Ethics Committee was investigating Gaetz for sex trafficking, the Daily Beastreports.

    Let’s see if Johnson squashes it. 😏🤔

  26. 26.

    wjca

    January 25, 2024 at 11:26 pm

    @tam1MI: After weeks of infighting, no one knows who’s in charge of the Michigan Republican Party.

    Normally (sorry!), the simple answer would be: Whoever has control of the group’s finances/bank accounts.  But when the organization has effectively zero net worth, that’s something of a moot point.

  27. 27.

    frosty

    January 25, 2024 at 11:33 pm

    @Suzanne: ​ 5 AM! I guess if the clientele is there, somebody’s got to serve them. I think I’ll give this tourist trap a miss though, TYVM!

  28. 28.

    Glidwrith

    January 25, 2024 at 11:33 pm

    @Yutsano: We’ve got North Pack Produce in Poway-every Persian/Mediterranean spice and mix you can think of. Multiple local bakeries deliver their regional baklava and the other sweets are a serious diabetic threat.

    And did I mention the adjacent restaurant with fresh made bread and schwarma meat pies?

  29. 29.

    Suzanne

    January 25, 2024 at 11:39 pm

    @frosty: Not a tourist trap, it’s been there since the 30s. It is an honest-to-FSM dive. Kind of hilarious.

    On a completely unrelated note, Carl Andre died. He prooobably pushed Ana Mendieta out of a window. Also produced sculpture occasionally.

  30. 30.

    frosty

    January 25, 2024 at 11:42 pm

    @Suzanne: I was being snarky about the tourist trap. Definitely sounded like a dive – which I would have been attracted to in my 20s, except for the 2×4 part LOL.

  31. 31.

    Pete Downunder

    January 26, 2024 at 12:06 am

    This talk of fresh corn tortillas is making me very jealous. Queensland has no remotely authentic Mexican food. We have “Mexican Restaurants” but the staff all seem to be from South Asia. In 20 years I have met one Mexican family running a restaurant and it did not survive Covid. You can buy packaged corn tortillas but they are horrible. Good Mexican food is the one thing I really miss having left the US.

  32. 32.

    NotMax

    January 26, 2024 at 12:48 am

    Had planned to put together a big pot of hearty curried eggplant today, the necessaries for which I’d bought on Tuesday.

    That is until an extended (nearly 6 hours!) midday nap intervened. When awoke very late in the afternoon said, “Nah. There’s always tomorrow,.”

  33. 33.

    Brachiator

    January 26, 2024 at 12:51 am

    RIP Melanie Safka

    May the Lord have a brand new key for you in heaven

    We were so close, there was no room
    We bled inside each others wounds
    We all had caught the same disease
    And we all sang the songs of peace

  34. 34.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    January 26, 2024 at 12:58 am

    @lamh36: i felt it was MI’s take on william gibson’s neuromancer.

    …also felt a bit over-long and over-done.

  35. 35.

    NotMax

    January 26, 2024 at 1:02 am

    @strange visitor (from another planet)

    …and a bit overlong.

    M.I.s Wide Shut?
    ;)

  36. 36.

    TBone

    January 26, 2024 at 1:04 am

    @Brachiator: oh dear😓 Brand New Key was kind of a theme song my old barfly DJ girlfriend would play for me once upon a time in DelCo.

  37. 37.

    Brachiator

    January 26, 2024 at 1:05 am

    @lamh36:

    I have not seen it yet. I have Oppenheimer next in my movie watch rotation. Maybe MI after that, and will look at your Twitter comments.

  38. 38.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 26, 2024 at 1:07 am

    @frosty:

    5 AM! I guess if the clientele is there, somebody’s got to serve them.

    Dunno about this bar, but I know someone who worked the early morning shift at a bar in SF that opened at 6 a.m. They had a lot of graveyard shift workers coming in to unwind before going home.

  39. 39.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 26, 2024 at 1:10 am

    @lamh36: FYI, another Bay Area ISP to check out is Monkeybrains. Haven’t used them myself but heard good things about them.

    Also the Broke-ass Stuart website has a great calendar of events for SF/Oakland and surrounding areas.

  40. 40.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 26, 2024 at 1:34 am

    @Pete Downunder: I have a (Korean/Japanese/Hawaiian) friend who taught himself how to make echte corn tortillas.  He had to get order special flour from Mexico.  He did it off YT videos.  Might be an avenue …..

    ETA: with Amazon, it’s amazing what ingredients you can get delivered.  Truly amazing.

  41. 41.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 26, 2024 at 1:38 am

    @Sister Golden Bear: I’ve been a happy Monkeybrains customer for years.  Fast and reliable.  Did I mention fast?  Also, fast.

  42. 42.

    NotMax

    January 26, 2024 at 1:56 am

    @Chetan Murthy

    I’ve been a happy Monkeybrains customer for years

    Sounds like a line from a movie co-written by Mel Brooks and Tim Burton.
    :)

  43. 43.

    Martin

    January 26, 2024 at 2:05 am

    New bill introduced in the CA senate would require all new cars sold in California to have GPS based speed limiters starting in 2027.

    I doubt it’ll pass, but it shows how far the Overton window has shifted that even introducing a bill like that is possible.

  44. 44.

    Captain C

    January 26, 2024 at 2:08 am

    If you haven’t already, you should go visit Lee Lee’s down on Dobson and Warner in Chandler.  It’s an enormous international grocery store which has items from all over Asia and numerous other places as well (IIRC there’s even some Dutch food due to the Indonesian connection).

  45. 45.

    Mendenhall

    January 26, 2024 at 2:09 am

    You’ll want to check out El Rancho (or any of the other big Mexican markets in the Valley) on weekends: a lot of the time they’ll be cooking pollo asado and carne asada on the big grills outside! They’re great places to dine as well as to shop.

    Sonoran taquerias in Phoenix are like Dunkin’ Donuts in Boston: you’re never more than 1/4 mile from one. But if you like grilled meat, Taco Boys in Phoenix is outstanding and worth a trip to Roosevelt Row, IMO (there’s also one in Tempe that I haven’t tried, but I’m sure it’s just as good).

  46. 46.

    karen marie

    January 26, 2024 at 2:15 am

    If you like that, John Cole, I recommend Los Altos Ranch Market. It is really gigantic. They make everything. The cheeses are mindblowing.

  47. 47.

    Mendenhall

    January 26, 2024 at 2:15 am

    @Mendenhall:

     

    @Captain C: Agree: Lee Lee’s is great!

  48. 48.

    KrackenJack

    January 26, 2024 at 2:24 am

    @Martin: California is going to have to fill the $9b highway tax hole somehow. GPS reporting is a likely candidate.

    Having Google enforce traffic laws is just a short hop from there.

  49. 49.

    NotMax

    January 26, 2024 at 2:27 am

    @Martin

    Bypasses for shade tree mechanics forthcoming within days.

  50. 50.

    NotMax

    January 26, 2024 at 2:36 am

    @KrackenJack

    Can only swaddle/cocoon drivers so far before they rise up to break free.

  51. 51.

    Martin

    January 26, 2024 at 2:48 am

    @KrackenJack: I doubt there will be any provision for car data to be sent out. There will just be steeper penalties for bypassing the system. No other monitoring needed.

  52. 52.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    January 26, 2024 at 3:11 am

    @KrackenJack: What is the source of the revenue hole, is it due to  people switching from gas to electric?

  53. 53.

    Brachiator

    January 26, 2024 at 4:06 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    Yep.

    As California phases in major policies aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions — such as the mandates for zero-emission cars and trucks — consumers buy less gasoline and diesel, and consequently pay less taxes.

    I’ve heard that some electric vehicles are heavier than ICE vehicles. This might increase the need for funding to maintain roads.

  54. 54.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    January 26, 2024 at 4:20 am

    @Brachiator:  with consumption of gas is going down does that mean the price of gas in California is also going down?   under the laws of supply and demand, a decrease in demand should cause a decrease in price.

  55. 55.

    ColoradoGuy

    January 26, 2024 at 4:50 am

    Tucson is fun. The University of Arizona has the Ansel Adams gallery (a world-class collection), there’s tours of the nearby Kitt Peak Observatory, and if you have a taste for the macabre, the Missile Museum that has the command center with the famous two keys, and the enormous springs that isolate the command center. A lot of spooky-looking mid-Sixties tech.

    Also, Green Chile Tamales are the famous local dish and not to be missed.

  56. 56.

    Brachiator

    January 26, 2024 at 5:09 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
    There are various forces, some dubious and artificial, that affect California gasoline prices.
    So, you have this…

    Why is California the only state with high gas prices?

    First, the rising price of oil, but the lack of refining capacity, a special blend that’s only required in California, high taxes, a cap-and-trade program all of that.

    And this….

    Why are gas prices in California going down?

    “Demand from drivers has fallen and we are seeing the impact of winter blend being introduced earlier than previous years. There are also signs of a slowing economy that is affecting overall demand,” said Gokce Soydemir, Foster Farms endowed professor of business economics at California State University, Stanislaus.

    It’s crazy.

  57. 57.

    NotMax

    January 26, 2024 at 5:19 am

    @Brachiator

    Continues hovering around $4.80, plus or minus a few cents, here.

  58. 58.

    Brachiator

    January 26, 2024 at 5:25 am

    @NotMax:

    The Los Angeles area average is around $4.54 for regular and $4.90 for premium.

  59. 59.

    NotMax

    January 26, 2024 at 5:28 am

    @Brachiator

    Premium somewhere above the $5 mark.

  60. 60.

    LiminalOwl

    January 26, 2024 at 7:17 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Serenade or shivaree?

  61. 61.

    wjca

    January 26, 2024 at 12:00 pm

    @Brachiator:

    As California phases in major policies aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions — such as the mandates for zero-emission cars and trucks — consumers buy less gasoline and diesel, and consequently pay less taxes.

    Gas taxes to fund roads made lots of sense when all vehicles were powered by gas (including diesel).  It was a reasonable proxy for a use tax.

    But, as we shift away from petrol, something different will be needed.  Perhaps an annual tax, akin to property taxes on land and buildings, on cars and trucks?  That or raise some other tax and pay for roads out of the General Fund.

  62. 62.

    Paul in KY

    January 26, 2024 at 2:32 pm

    @ColoradoGuy: Plus the aircraft boneyard out at Davis Monthan.

  63. 63.

    AnthroBabe

    January 26, 2024 at 3:35 pm

    So CELOSA, Juan! My God, I miss the large Mexican markets with the in house tortilleria! Yes, I am in Arizona, but up where it snows.  ( I do need to check out Tortilla Lady a bit more….)

  64. 64.

    lynn

    January 26, 2024 at 3:47 pm

    When I lived in California I loved going to Chevy’s, where they made fresh flour tortillas in house. They also made their chips from the tortillas. Never been a big fan of corn tortillas, but those flour tortillas…YUMMY

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