Cue up Judge Engoron, asap. I hope he penalizes Trump heavily, and is not overruled by the Supremes.
No sympathy. Except for us, because I am not so sure Trump is going to make it to the election, for various reasons. Health, criminal connections convictions, running out of money, even from the rubes …
3.
Brachiator
Long ago, Queen Victoria tried to warn people like Trump when she said “We are not immune.”
@Elizabelle: I don’t know how the Supreme Court would have jurisdiction over a state matter like this. That would be one massive power grab. And I don’t think the NY courts are likely to view appeals favorably.
6.
smith
@Elizabelle: It’s a state case. I’m not sure it can go to the Supremes, just to the highest appeals court in NY. Also, if he’s appealing the money damages he’ll have to post bond for the whole amount, and since it will likely be $400+ million, he will struggle to do.
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Elizabelle
@Eolirin: @smith: Thank you both for pointing out there is not a route to the USSC. I am just so used to TIFG running there to run out the clock.
I don’t want him living as a schnook. I want him incarcerated, and bankrupt.
8.
Matt McIrvin
@Elizabelle: I learned from 2016 and 2020 that it’s always foolish to bet against Trump making it to the election. The guy may lose but he never gives up and his own side certainly won’t shank him. He seems to have no attention span but his narcissism is limitless. He nearly died of COVID and it didn’t seem to matter.
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Old School
This post could be a rotating tag.
10.
Damned at Random
Trump plans to appeal. Am I surprised?
11.
TBone
Jeff T never disappoints. HA HA HAHAHAHA indeed! 😆
Cue up Judge Engoron, asap. I hope he penalizes Trump heavily
I’m almost sure he won’t want to share media time with today’s No Immunity! ruling 😏
He can do it tomorrow, just prior to Thurs Supreme Court vs Colorado hearing.
A drip of daily bad news for TIFG might just be what his heart needs to 💔
22.
Elizabelle
@Jackie: I am just so relieved to see Trump finally getting justice (even while) delayed, and in the maws of the justice system.
Make him regret he ever thought of injecting his bronzered face into the 2016 election. Although, he was right about campaign money being a trough for grifters.
23.
Kelly
Many years ago, during my first great romance, I puzzled over “Fuck that guy” as a curse. With my new experiences it made no sense. Fucking is great! Why would I wish such a great thing on someone I disliked. Piss on him has been my curse of choice ever since. This was long before the internet so I was unaware that to could be pleasing to some folks.
@Kelly: If you take it literally, which you probably shouldn’t because Fuck has a diversity of meaning that is rare in the English language, there is an undercurrent of non-consensual with a tinge of homophobic/misogynistic framing in which fucking is an act of violence perpetrated on the fuckee.
This is a very awful framing for sex, but one that’s held by a not small amount of people still.
But really, even to the extent that that’s where things came from I don’t think it’s how people think about it or mean it now. It’s just an overloaded term that means many many things.
This was long before the internet so I was unaware that to could be pleasing to some folks.
Life was definitely better prior to certain knowledge.
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Citizen Alan
@Eolirin: Justice Ginsberg expressed astonishment during oral arguments in Bush v. Gore that SCOTUS was interfering in a state court’s interpretation of its own laws and state constitution to a degree never before seen.
@Eolirin: Fuck is the most diverse word in the English language, IMO.
I also think of it sort of as slang. If you go to your friend’s new house and you really like their decor and such and you say “Hey, this place is really cool”, no one thinks you’re commenting on the temperature. Similarly, if I say “fuck that guy” I’m not encouraging others to bang him.
29.
Suzanne
I am fond of Phoebe Bridgers’ exhortation to “rot in piss“.
he intended to yammer something about supply chains, but the rotting colostomy bag inside Trump’s head chose that unfortunate moment to spring a leak
True. Jeff T never disappoints. Oh the partying in the streets that will happen once this pile of shit is dead…
32.
Eolirin
@Alison Rose: It is, for sure, but it is also used in ways that are more clearly meant to evoke sexual violence too. Like, go fuck yourself with a rusty picthfork.
I have no problems with its usage to be clear, but I’m not sure it evolves the way it does without a cultural history of gender coded associations to sexual violence either.
@Eolirin: Sure, but IMO it’s the same as people who say it’s not okay to call something “crazy” because it’s ableist. I mean, I understand the concerns and I don’t use terms like that colloquially with people who I know don’t like them. But as someone with multiple mental health diagnoses who calls myself crazy all the time, I have zero issue using the word in a slang sense, too. (“These prices are crazy” or “It’s insane that anyone still supports him”.)
Saying “fuck you” is not the same as an actual rape threat, of which I have received many as A Lady On The Internet. Just because a word can mean two things doesn’t mean it has to always mean both things in every use.
36.
mrmoshpotato
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I would hope she would have the decency towards humanity, and self-respect to tear them all down.
That POS downtown is such a disgusting eyesore. And NBC showed it at the beginning of the NYE fireworks – guess their camera director was hitting the champagne early.
@Jackie: I thought Engoron put out a statement with a revised date of Feb 15 or something? This was after the news about the Weisselberg (sp?) perjury settlement and the judge overseeing the Trump org finances turned in a report.
That pesky fake $50 million dollar loan, for instance, or that he used $5.5 million in his funds for the first E. Jean Carroll case without letting the overseeing judge know.
39.
TBone
@mrmoshpotato: his turkey neck stuffed in that stained collar looks like (decorum prevents me from saying that word today 😆) but I saw a lady who had a spandex suit with his neck strategically placed. I will say BALL GARGLING THUNDER TWAT. Ahhh, that’s better.
From what I read somewhere this morning of too much news to absorb, Engeron is apparently super pissed about CFO guy pleading to the perjury charge. He says he may just have to assume that anything Weiselberg testified to was also a lie.
I don’t know if that delays anything on his judgment, but Engeron has had a lot of legal shit thrown at him since the trial ended and that has to infuriate him. I keep picturing him having finally finished his ruling when something else pops up that necessitates him having to start writing it all over again. Kind of a nightmarish legal Groundhog Day.
43.
Eolirin
@Alison Rose: I thought I was being careful to not imply that I disagreed about that. We are in agreement on that point.
44.
Manyakitty
@geg6: any word on possible penalties for Weisselberg? Perjury is a crime.
45.
MazeDancer
@Kristine: Think she’ll probably name it Steinem Tower. Or Rosa Parks Tower.
Maybe Ruth Bader Ginsberg Tower.
Something lasting. And something the whole world can use to mock Trump.
Haven’t seen anything on that, but assume that since he took a plea deal, it’s going to be minimal. But who knows?
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Paul in KY
@TBone: I hope he has to hand over the one in Chicago and Jean turns it into a Lesbian Youth Hostel or something like that and names it after Michelle Obama. Then I wouldn’t have to crop it out of any skyline shots I take in Chicago.
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Paul in KY
@Kelly: You have to know what exactly the person is getting fucked with…
A good example is the supposed manner of death of Edward II.
50.
Manyakitty
@geg6: I haven’t read enough about it to know if the perjury invalidated his prior deal. Send that geezer back to Rikers!
It’s unclear whether Weisselberg would plead guilty to a felony or misdemeanor or what his sentence could be. It’s also unclear which statement brought about the perjury allegation, though reports accused Weisselberg of lying under oath about Trump’s Trump Tower triplex apartment, which is 10,996 square feet but was listed for years on financial statements as 30,000 square feet.
It’s unclear whether Weisselberg would plead guilty to a felony or misdemeanor or what his sentence could be. It’s also unclear which statement brought about the perjury allegation, though reports accused Weisselberg of lying under oath about Trump’s Trump Tower triplex apartment, which is 10,996 square feet but was listed for years on financial statements as 30,000 square feet.
52.
Craig
@Suzanne: the caption at that link weirdly leaves out Julien Baker’s name. Come on Rolling Stone, basic competence please. I’m also fond of Phoebe Bridger’s, she rocks. If you haven’t seen her Austin City Limits performance you should.
The judge set to rule in the New York civil fraud trial of Donald Trump ordered attorneys to provide details about whether ex-Trump Organization executive Allen Weisselberg lied on the witness stand.
Judge Arthur Engoron cited reporting from The New York Times that Weisselberg is in talks with Manhattan prosecutors to admit to perjury as part of a plea deal.
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Uncle Cosmo
@Kelly: Many years ago, Lenny Bruce noted that “screwing” is one of the more pleasurable activities possible between two people, and why would one wish that on someone one disliked? He said that if one really wanted to wish ill to someone one ought to say UNscrew you!
@mrmoshpotato: I would also be for that. Ripping it down like Minas Morgul was after War of the Ring. It had been so defiled by evil that it could not reinhabited by people.
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Ken
@Paul in KY: The main problem with the building is the sign, and that would be removed if Carroll takes over. Mind you I could see a buyer deciding to tear it down and put up something more architecturally exciting; Aqua Tower has made a lot of the riverfront towers look pretty boring.
The main problem with the building is the sign, and that would be removed if Carroll takes over.
And any other reference to the orange shitstain. JFC that sign is disgusting.
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Paul in KY
@Ken: It might be a bear demolishing it with it being so close to river. My first idea would have this sign ‘Michelle Obama LGBTQ Youth Hostel’! Boy would that send him around the bend.
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Manyakitty
Fuck that guy with extreme prejudice.
Elizabelle
Cue up Judge Engoron, asap. I hope he penalizes Trump heavily, and is not overruled by the Supremes.
No sympathy. Except for us, because I am not so sure Trump is going to make it to the election, for various reasons. Health, criminal
connectionsconvictions, running out of money, even from the rubes …Brachiator
Long ago, Queen Victoria tried to warn people like Trump when she said “We are not immune.”
rikyrah
Short and sweet, Cole.
Short and sweet.
Eolirin
@Elizabelle: I don’t know how the Supreme Court would have jurisdiction over a state matter like this. That would be one massive power grab. And I don’t think the NY courts are likely to view appeals favorably.
smith
@Elizabelle: It’s a state case. I’m not sure it can go to the Supremes, just to the highest appeals court in NY. Also, if he’s appealing the money damages he’ll have to post bond for the whole amount, and since it will likely be $400+ million, he will struggle to do.
Elizabelle
@Eolirin: @smith: Thank you both for pointing out there is not a route to the USSC. I am just so used to TIFG running there to run out the clock.
I don’t want him living as a schnook. I want him incarcerated, and bankrupt.
Matt McIrvin
@Elizabelle: I learned from 2016 and 2020 that it’s always foolish to bet against Trump making it to the election. The guy may lose but he never gives up and his own side certainly won’t shank him. He seems to have no attention span but his narcissism is limitless. He nearly died of COVID and it didn’t seem to matter.
Old School
This post could be a rotating tag.
Damned at Random
Trump plans to appeal. Am I surprised?
TBone
Jeff T never disappoints. HA HA HAHAHAHA indeed! 😆
https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/a-day-in-the-life-of-donald-trumps
TBone
@Elizabelle: shout it to the heavens, he’s going on the DOWN escalator and not the one in his crappy tower soon-to-be-renamed by E. Jean.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Got back from the gym to find this excellent news. It’s about time.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@TBone: I’m imagining the look on Trump if she renames Trump Tower after herself.
dmsilev
@Damned at Random: No, of course you shouldn’t be surprised. He’ll play every possible card he can to delay the trial.
TBone
😎😸
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=-nG6Q7MqVCo
TBone
@Dorothy A. Winsor: all that runny makeup 😆
Alison Rose
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Looks good to me.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Alison Rose: LOL. Thanks for that.
Kristine
@Dorothy A. Winsor: “Carroll Tower” sounds much classier.
Jackie
@Elizabelle:
I’m almost sure he won’t want to share media time with today’s No Immunity! ruling 😏
He can do it tomorrow, just prior to Thurs Supreme Court vs Colorado hearing.
A drip of daily bad news for TIFG might just be what his heart needs to 💔
Elizabelle
@Jackie: I am just so relieved to see Trump finally getting justice (even while) delayed, and in the maws of the justice system.
Make him regret he ever thought of injecting his bronzered face into the 2016 election. Although, he was right about campaign money being a trough for grifters.
Kelly
Many years ago, during my first great romance, I puzzled over “Fuck that guy” as a curse. With my new experiences it made no sense. Fucking is great! Why would I wish such a great thing on someone I disliked. Piss on him has been my curse of choice ever since. This was long before the internet so I was unaware that to could be pleasing to some folks.
Anyway
@Kristine:
As does Carroll-a-lago
Eolirin
@Kelly: If you take it literally, which you probably shouldn’t because Fuck has a diversity of meaning that is rare in the English language, there is an undercurrent of non-consensual with a tinge of homophobic/misogynistic framing in which fucking is an act of violence perpetrated on the fuckee.
This is a very awful framing for sex, but one that’s held by a not small amount of people still.
But really, even to the extent that that’s where things came from I don’t think it’s how people think about it or mean it now. It’s just an overloaded term that means many many things.
Suzanne
@Kelly:
Life was definitely better prior to certain knowledge.
Citizen Alan
@Eolirin: Justice Ginsberg expressed astonishment during oral arguments in Bush v. Gore that SCOTUS was interfering in a state court’s interpretation of its own laws and state constitution to a degree never before seen.
Alison Rose
@Eolirin: Fuck is the most diverse word in the English language, IMO.
I also think of it sort of as slang. If you go to your friend’s new house and you really like their decor and such and you say “Hey, this place is really cool”, no one thinks you’re commenting on the temperature. Similarly, if I say “fuck that guy” I’m not encouraging others to bang him.
Suzanne
I am fond of Phoebe Bridgers’ exhortation to “rot in piss“.
I am fond of Phoebe Bridgers, period.
prostratedragon
@Elizabelle:
Things are going swimmingly on that front. From the Daily Beast article linked herein:
mrmoshpotato
@TBone:
True. Jeff T never disappoints. Oh the partying in the streets that will happen once this pile of shit is dead…
Eolirin
@Alison Rose: It is, for sure, but it is also used in ways that are more clearly meant to evoke sexual violence too. Like, go fuck yourself with a rusty picthfork.
I have no problems with its usage to be clear, but I’m not sure it evolves the way it does without a cultural history of gender coded associations to sexual violence either.
Elizabelle
@prostratedragon: Lovely. *rubs hands and smiles
prostratedragon
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I think she should jold out for whatever interest he retains in
502 Park Avenue.
Alison Rose
@Eolirin: Sure, but IMO it’s the same as people who say it’s not okay to call something “crazy” because it’s ableist. I mean, I understand the concerns and I don’t use terms like that colloquially with people who I know don’t like them. But as someone with multiple mental health diagnoses who calls myself crazy all the time, I have zero issue using the word in a slang sense, too. (“These prices are crazy” or “It’s insane that anyone still supports him”.)
Saying “fuck you” is not the same as an actual rape threat, of which I have received many as A Lady On The Internet. Just because a word can mean two things doesn’t mean it has to always mean both things in every use.
mrmoshpotato
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I would hope she would have the decency towards humanity, and self-respect to tear them all down.
That POS downtown is such a disgusting eyesore. And NBC showed it at the beginning of the NYE fireworks – guess their camera director was hitting the champagne early.
mrmoshpotato
@TBone:
Are you sure it’s not just Dump’s naturally disgusting neck vomit that he calls a head?
WaterGirl
@Jackie: I thought Engoron put out a statement with a revised date of Feb 15 or something? This was after the news about the Weisselberg (sp?) perjury settlement and the judge overseeing the Trump org finances turned in a report.
That pesky fake $50 million dollar loan, for instance, or that he used $5.5 million in his funds for the first E. Jean Carroll case without letting the overseeing judge know.
TBone
@mrmoshpotato: his turkey neck stuffed in that stained collar looks like (decorum prevents me from saying that word today 😆) but I saw a lady who had a spandex suit with his neck strategically placed. I will say BALL GARGLING THUNDER TWAT. Ahhh, that’s better.
...now I try to be amused
@Brachiator:
BOOOOO!
(I wish I’d thought of it.)
mrmoshpotato
@TBone: I was scrolling down and just saw GARLIC THUNDER at first.
geg6
@Elizabelle:
From what I read somewhere this morning of too much news to absorb, Engeron is apparently super pissed about CFO guy pleading to the perjury charge. He says he may just have to assume that anything Weiselberg testified to was also a lie.
I don’t know if that delays anything on his judgment, but Engeron has had a lot of legal shit thrown at him since the trial ended and that has to infuriate him. I keep picturing him having finally finished his ruling when something else pops up that necessitates him having to start writing it all over again. Kind of a nightmarish legal Groundhog Day.
Eolirin
@Alison Rose: I thought I was being careful to not imply that I disagreed about that. We are in agreement on that point.
Manyakitty
@geg6: any word on possible penalties for Weisselberg? Perjury is a crime.
MazeDancer
@Kristine: Think she’ll probably name it Steinem Tower. Or Rosa Parks Tower.
Maybe Ruth Bader Ginsberg Tower.
Something lasting. And something the whole world can use to mock Trump.
Paul in KY
@TBone: Thanks for the link!
geg6
@Manyakitty:
Haven’t seen anything on that, but assume that since he took a plea deal, it’s going to be minimal. But who knows?
Paul in KY
@TBone: I hope he has to hand over the one in Chicago and Jean turns it into a Lesbian Youth Hostel or something like that and names it after Michelle Obama. Then I wouldn’t have to crop it out of any skyline shots I take in Chicago.
Paul in KY
@Kelly: You have to know what exactly the person is getting fucked with…
A good example is the supposed manner of death of Edward II.
Manyakitty
@geg6: I haven’t read enough about it to know if the perjury invalidated his prior deal. Send that geezer back to Rikers!
WaterGirl
@Manyakitty: (Salon)
Craig
@Suzanne: the caption at that link weirdly leaves out Julien Baker’s name. Come on Rolling Stone, basic competence please. I’m also fond of Phoebe Bridger’s, she rocks. If you haven’t seen her Austin City Limits performance you should.
WaterGirl
@Manyakitty:
Uncle Cosmo
@Kelly: Many years ago, Lenny Bruce noted that “screwing” is one of the more pleasurable activities possible between two people, and why would one wish that on someone one disliked? He said that if one really wanted to wish ill to someone one ought to say UNscrew you!
Manyakitty
@WaterGirl: yikes. Is ANYTHING clear?
Manyakitty
@WaterGirl: thank you! 😊
mrmoshpotato
@Paul in KY: I could live with that, but I’d prefer they ripped the damn thing down.
prostratedragon
@mrmoshpotato: First thought when I saw it was it’d be a hellish job to get it down.
“How to Dispose of a Skyscraper”
TBone
@Paul in KY: ❤️
TBone
@mrmoshpotato: That’s my gaelic thunder !
Paul in KY
@mrmoshpotato: I would also be for that. Ripping it down like Minas Morgul was after War of the Ring. It had been so defiled by evil that it could not reinhabited by people.
Ken
@Paul in KY: The main problem with the building is the sign, and that would be removed if Carroll takes over. Mind you I could see a buyer deciding to tear it down and put up something more architecturally exciting; Aqua Tower has made a lot of the riverfront towers look pretty boring.
WaterGirl
@Manyakitty:
Apparently not.
NotMax
@Ken
Suppose WATB Tower would be too on the nose.
mrmoshpotato
@prostratedragon:
Interesting. I still say have at it!
mrmoshpotato
@Ken:
And any other reference to the orange shitstain. JFC that sign is disgusting.
Paul in KY
@Ken: It might be a bear demolishing it with it being so close to river. My first idea would have this sign ‘Michelle Obama LGBTQ Youth Hostel’! Boy would that send him around the bend.