Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

It’s a good piece. click on over. but then come back!!

And we’re all out of bubblegum.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

Republicans in disarray!

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

He really is that stupid.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

You cannot shame the shameless.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

Let me file that under fuck it.

It’s a doggy dog world.

Never give a known liar the benefit of the doubt.

The republican speaker is a slippery little devil.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

We’re not going back!

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

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Thursday Morning Open Thread 18

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Looks like some progressive Dems might be figuring out the old GOP winning formula: If you can’t fall in love, you can just fall in line…

Thursday Morning Open Thread 19

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  4. 4.

    Jeffro

    The bracket just needs a “REPUBLICAN” next to “CRIME” in order to move it over to the ‘real threat’ side.

    Also, I might have to troll the RWNJs in my life with that Axios article.  I know that they’re pretty disgusted with that clown show after several televised routs by the House Dems on the Oversight Committee.  I kind of feel obligated to rub it in.  =)

  8. 8.

    Jeffro

    Bonus: see if you can spot the flaw at the end of this “argument” from NYT deputy opinion editor* Patrick Healy

    I thought about [Jesse] Ventura’s remark as I read my colleague Rebecca Davis O’Brien’s great reporting about how Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is eyeing Ventura and the N.F.L. quarterback Aaron Rodgers as possible running mates for his independent presidential bid. Kennedy was already on my mind after I helped moderate a group of Trump voters who don’t support the former president anymore; some of them talked up Kennedy and were familiar with some of his political positions.

    That left me taking Kennedy more seriously than I did before. Some voters are giving this guy a real look, and a few see him as the new Trump — outsider, anti-establishment, his own person (regardless of the dangerous and fact-free views that he holds).

    And that he’s looking at Ventura and Rodgers only makes me take him more seriously. Kennedy knows what he’s doing in considering partners who speak in unfiltered ways, for better or for worse, and they have star power and an ease with crowds. A lot of voters will see them as regular people.

    Now, those two may have so much baggage that they never get anywhere, or they might conclude that they shouldn’t join the ticket. And Kennedy may yet flop. But the whole Kennedy-Ventura-Rodgers thing is no joke, in my book. I doubt President Biden and Trump are laughing about it.

    *I am adding this to my email signature at work and will let you all know if anyone notices

  10. 10.

    Caveatimperator

    @Jeffro:

    That’s absolutely hilarious. It will go over just as well as Kanye West’s run for President. After all, the general public is so stupid and simple minded that they will vote for a celebrity they like over politicians who promise something they want.

  11. 11.

    Waspuppet

    If House Republicans really “desperately want out of their self-inflicted chaos,” three or four of them can file a motion to vacate, and then vote Hakeem Jeffries for speaker. Done.
    If they don’t want to do that, then the only thing they’re desperate for is for everyone to do what they say.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Jeffro: As I said to somebody elsewhere yesterday:

    Like Aaron Rodger’s is gonna give up his multimillion dollar pay check for sitting on his butt after getting hurt in the 2nd (3rd maybe?) game of the season to make RFK Jr. look like an even bigger idiot than he already does?

    For some reason or other, I suspect Jesse Ventura’s one dance in the spotlight was more than enough for him. Playing 2nd fiddle to a for sure loser just isn’t the draw it used to be.

  14. 14.

    Melancholy Jaques

    @Baud:

    What is not a joke is the way that the political media promote bullshit like this.

    And people keep talking about the Kennedy name like anyone under 50 knows or cares.

  20. 20.

    Ken

    @3Sice: Political hot takes are like playing the market; you only have to be right once.

    And you keep the cachet even if you’re never again right afterward, judging by past examples. We could try to get this named the “Nate Silver Effect”.

  23. 23.

    p.a.

    … regardless of the dangerous and fact-free views that he holds…

     

    No mention in the article about what these actually are?!?!  Like, inform the public, right?

  25. 25.

    JML

    Job interview today. whole thing has come together so fast i didn’t even realize how much I wanted the job until now, and now I’m super nervous. (at least with a virtual interview they can’t see my hands shake!)

  26. 26.

    Geminid

    @Baud: Reprentative Omar has impressed me. She had a few rough months early in 2019 but has since proved to be a serious legislator.

    I thought Omar handled her removal from the foreign affairs committee last year with a dignity that sharply contrasted wih Republican hypocrisy. Another talented member of the House Class of 2018.

  30. 30.

    Steve in the ATL

    To tie in this morning’s On The Road post, back in 2016 when Trump was campaigning, I heard Judy Woodruff speak at the University of the South. While she is hardly a liberal, she did say, “I know that the Sewanee football team had a tough season. Is the solution to that getting rid of your coach and bringing in someone who knows nothing about football?”

  31. 31.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @Jeffro:

    But the whole Kennedy-Ventura-Rodgers thing is no joke, in my book. I doubt President Biden and Trump are laughing about it.

    If it happens, Biden will cheer. A conspiracy theory ticket would hurt Trump.

  32. 32.

    Jeffro

    “[Rodgers and Ventura] may have so much baggage that they never get anywhere, or they might conclude that they shouldn’t join the ticket. And Kennedy may yet flop. But the whole Kennedy-Ventura-Rodgers thing is no joke, in my book. I doubt President Biden and Trump are laughing about it.”

    might I just suggest that President Biden is probably chuckling, nay, chortling about it.

    trumpov, however, knows full well that an out-and-out anti-vax ticket will most definitely pull more votes from him than President Biden.

  36. 36.

    catclub

    Another threat to the GOP crazies is Diversity, Equity and inclusion.
    Never mind that the abbreviation is DEI – remind me of the latin word for god?

  37. 37.

    Uncle Cosmo

    FWIW, SpaceX is nearly 30 minutes into the Starship/Heavy flight test and the only glitch so far appears to be a failure of some engines to relight on the Heavy booster burn-back, so the booster hit the water of the Gulf at about the speed of sound. Starship reached ~16,500 mph and ~110 miles altitude; the payload bay door opened and closed successfully in space; next milestone is a retrograde burn to test the relighting of the engines in vacuum.

  41. 41.

    Jackie

    @OzarkHillbilly: It’s quite possible Rogers’ NFL career is over🤞🏻but that info hasn’t been made public, yet? That was my immediate first thought, anyhoo.

  42. 42.

    catclub

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: How CNN put it: The case centers around Trump’s resistance to the government’s attempts to retrieve the materials he took to Mar-a-Lago from the White House.

     

    That is a nice way of saying Obstruction, Hiding and moving documents to keep from the US Archives. Also having lawyers lie about their status.

  43. 43.

    cmorenc

    @Steve in the ATL:

    To tie in this morning’s On The Road post, back in 2016 when Trump was campaigning, I heard Judy Woodruff speak at the University of the South. While she is hardly a liberal, she did say, “I know that the Sewanee football team had a tough season. Is the solution to that getting rid of your coach and bringing in someone who knows nothing about football?”

    Apple TV’s “Ted Lasso” is based on this exact scenario – except it’s about a floundering English Premier (soccer) League teamn  that hires the coach of an American NCAA division II college football team who knows nothing about soccer.  Hilarious great drama and acting.

  45. 45.

    catclub

    CNN Headline:

    UK says new laser system can down a target the size of a coin for only $13 a shot

    …. unfortunately, most targets of interest are bigger than a coin.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @catclub: To be scrupulously fair to Rodgers, he is still a professional athlete  not a political candidate.  Yet.  And, just to fuck with SFAW, I hope he stays an athlete for a while longer.

  49. 49.

    catclub

    @OzarkHillbilly: Surely SFAW did something to deserve it.

     

    I think cheering for _any_ professional Football team , either NFL or NCAA Div I,   qualifies as a reason.

  50. 50.

    Josie

    @JML: ​
     Just remember you are a member in good standing of the BJ community. They would be lucky to get you.

  52. 52.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @catclub: ​

    Hey now, you take that back! The KC Chiefs rule! ;-)

    And just for the record, so do the Redbirds. GO CARDS!!!

  60. 60.

    3Sice

    @Jackie:

    He’s been working the organization, fan base and press since the injury and blocking acquiring even a semi-functional backup QB.

    He’s trying to string it out as long as possible, probably because the Jets can void some or all of the remaining contract, but yeah, he’s done.

  61. 61.

    catclub

    @OzarkHillbilly: I, unfortunately for my fan status, took an economics course. The only thing I remember from it was: Those are all businesses.

    I will cheer for them as soon I finish cheering for GM, Ford and IBM. Also Intel vs Nvidia. Delta vs American Airlines.  Makes as much sense.

  62. 62.

    JML

    @catclub: competent candidate, fairly bad governor. Jesse was one of the original panderers (handing our sugar with rebate checks) and using his position to do personal stuff like making it easier to ride jet skis. he did a ton of damage in convincing people that if they didn’t personally need something it was probably a bad idea for government to pay for it, encouraging a culture of selfishness that the modern GOP has adopted en masse. he did hire some competent people in his administration and left them alone on stuff he didn’t care about, but also antagonized literally everyone in the legislature.

    now, he’s a crazy old man who lets his addled conspiracy ridden freak flag fly…and is still probably better than Aaron Rodgers, a staggering narcissist who is just smart enough to think he’s a genius.

  63. 63.

    Mousebumples

    As I saw with some reporting yesterday (apparently Rodgers is a Sandy Hook truther?!?), sports reporters work with kid gloves, compared to political oppo reporting.

    Though I suppose NFL’s smallest media market vs NYC has maybe not set in for Rodgers yet either.

  64. 64.

    catclub

    @JML: now, he’s a crazy old man who lets his addled conspiracy ridden freak flag fly

     

    ah. I am glad I have not kept up.

  65. 65.

    Soprano2

    @catclub: It makes me crazy how the press never makes it clear what the actual charges in the documents case are. I’m sure most people believe the charge is that he had the documents and shouldn’t have had them, when the actual charges are all about what he did to try to keep the documents he wasn’t supposed to have.

  66. 66.

    Peke Daddy

    @Jeffro: Four years of administrative experience between the two of them, and their advice is so unfiltered it is chunky. Fundamentally unserious statement.

  68. 68.

    Another Scott

    @Jeffro:

    Now, those two may have so much baggage that they never get anywhere, or they might conclude that they shouldn’t join the ticket. And Kennedy may yet flop.

    The high Brodersism in this piece is off-the-charts. “Hey, I said that he may flop! I wasn’t wrong!!”

    “Yeah, he may not be on enough ballots to have a chance. Yeah, interest in his campaign may crumble when more than a fringe of the electorate knows his actual positions. Yeah, I personally don’t really believe that he has any chance at all. But a handful of voters are looking at him, therefore he’s not a joke and the nominees need to take him seriously.

    For my next hot take, tune in tomorrow for my latest on why AI is going to be the crucial factor in Gen Alpha dating experiences and why it’s smart to get in on the ground floor….”

    🤡

    Non-serious candidates always get their 15 minutes of fame. Remember when Herman Cain was leading the pack??

    Grr…,
    Scott.

  69. 69.

    Kosh III

    “Non-serious candidates always get their 15 minutes of fame. Remember when Herman Cain was leading the pack??”

    Yeah, I remember one Sunday morning Jake Fraking Tapper said there was stunning new information from a poll: Carly Fiorina was ahead.

  70. 70.

    Kosh III

    Open Thread?

    Biden should cut off all Israel aid until Israel abides by UN Resolution 242.

  71. 71.

    Ruckus

    @Waspuppet:

    If they don’t want to do that, then the only thing they’re desperate for is for everyone to do what they say.

    By George I think he’s got it!

  74. 74.

    Paul in KY

    @Baud: Sounds like the name of a WASPy female ‘influencer’:

    “We’re talking now to Ms. Kennedy Ventura-Rodgers, who runs her healing crystals podcast…”

  77. 77.

    Citizen Alan

    @Kosh III: Does Biden, in fact, have the power to do that unilaterally via executive order? Because, if not, this is just Green Lanternism.

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