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Schadenfreude Open Thread: Pastor Johnson, Not A Happy Speaker

by Anne Laurie|  March 28, 20248:31 pm| 144 Comments

This post is in: Republican Politics, Republicans in Disarray!

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Deadbeat politician who never shows up for work https://t.co/4k1H38La4n

— Ragnarok Lobster 🐺 (@eclecticbrotha) March 28, 2024

Remember the FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago?

Speaker Johnson funded the brand new FBI HQ which will be used to go after President Trump and every Republican who stands against the Democrat regime.

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) March 26, 2024

And it could not happen to a more deserving little weasel!

Analysis by Paul Kane: House Speaker Johnson (R-La.) faces a unique dilemma as he considers how to handle a proposed security package. He finds himself continuously boxed in by his own side, with legislation — and maybe his job — dependent on the minority. https://t.co/nIPenV8pJD

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) March 28, 2024


Paul Kane, at the Washington Post — “Speaker Johnson’s only path to legislative salvation: House Democrats”:[gift link]

… That’s because his own Republicans have waged a war against the normal proceedings in the House, with a reactionary right-wing faction torpedoing the parliamentary process to govern debate and allow legislation to pass with a simple majority.

In their pursuit of ideological purity, these conservatives have repeatedly forced Johnson’s hand to make deals with Democrats. For must-pass legislation, Johnson uses a legislative calendar that brings bills to the floor that cannot be amended, get very little debate and need a two-thirds majority — which usually requires anywhere from 180 to 200 Democrats and another 80 to 100 Republicans.

Thus, these far-right Republicans have assured an anti-conservative outcome, over and over, leading to bills approved by the Senate’s Democratic majority and a dozen to two dozen mainstream Republicans.

All of which has left Johnson with very little negotiating room as he heads toward next month’s consideration of the security package, with the Senate having approved, with 70 votes, a $95 billion bloc of funds that makes none of the border and immigration changes the House GOP has been demanding for a year.

House Democrats are fully aware of the unusually powerful hand they have despite their minority status.

“Democrats have repeatedly made clear that we will find bipartisan common ground with our Republican colleagues on any issue, whenever and wherever possible, to take care of the business of the American people,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) told reporters March 21 at a news conference.

The next day, on a bill to fund about 70 percent of federal agency budgets, Democrats provided 185 votes and Republicans 101, a handful more than needed to clear the two-thirds majority needed to pass the legislation.

“This is a Chuck Schumer, Democrat-controlled bill,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) said during Friday’s debate.

That is true, as the legislation most closely resembled the version of funding bills that won approval last summer by the Senate Appropriations Committee and were supported by Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.).

But Johnson’s options, given how Greene and other fringe Republicans block his moves, were to either shut down the government or pass the legislation with huge Democratic support…

As the House left town Friday for a long spring break, Johnson issued a statement suggesting that he wanted to work on a House version of the Senate’s $95 billion security bill.

“We welcome all ongoing member deliberations over the next two weeks as the House works its will on this matter,” Johnson said.

But Jeffries knows that it will be all but impossible for Johnson to craft anything that can pass the House — unless it has overwhelming support from Democrats, enough of whom so far have only been inclined to support the Schumer-led Senate bill…

Greene has already threatened to force a vote to eject Johnson as speaker if he puts legislation on the floor funding Ukraine — something she has called her own personal “red line” since early last year.

Jeffries knows that there are close to 200 Democrats and probably 100 Republicans, maybe a good bit more, willing to vote for the Senate’s security legislation — enough to clear the two-thirds majority hurdle if the speaker would just go that route.

So Jeffries can essentially dictate the outcome of anything that passes the House regarding Ukraine and the national security package, which includes money to shore up the defenses of Israel and Taiwan…

More delicious details at the link.

At Puck, Tina Nguyen on “Johnson Melancholia”:

For House Republicans, this week marks one of the first true recesses since Kevin McCarthy was ousted last October: Two weeks at home, away from the Capitol Hill pressure cooker, without the looming specter of a speaker election or government shutdown. But it’s also the first time I’ve reached out to my conservative sources—a typically wrathful, perpetually vengeance-minded crew—and found them to be… depressed. “[Our options] are pretty weak so far,” one Republican ally told me, when I asked whether they’d started plotting ways to punish Speaker Mike Johnson for ramming through yet another budget with the help of Democrats. “I mean, they don’t have the votes for anything.”

That includes a viable right-wing plot to vacate the speakership and send Johnson packing. Sure, Marjorie Taylor Greene filed a symbolic motion-to-vacate last Friday, after Johnson waved through the latest minibus over the protests of the hardliners who barely had time to read the bill, much less organize the opposition. And yes, if she manages to get two or three people onboard, she could technically vacate Johnson. (Right now, Greene is on the Twitter warpath, accusing Johnson of funding full-term abortion clinics, and the F.B.I.’s deep-state witch hunting machinery, among other things.) But the members who can think more than two weeks ahead are cold on the idea. “Maybe you’ll have, like, an Eli Crane” backing Greene and an M.T.V., a MAGA-aligned House aide told me. “But Matt Gaetz isn’t going to support it. Byron Donalds isn’t going to support it. [House Freedom Caucus chair] Bob Good, I don’t think he’s there.”

Two strategic reservations are guiding their thinking, I’m told. The first is the immediate downside hardliners discovered the last time around: Electing a Republican speaker is really hard, doing anything without a speaker is effectively prohibited, and finding an alternative to Johnson that every Republican could support is nearly impossible, especially with what is now a one-vote majority. (Rep. Mike Gallagher left Congress last Friday, joining Ken Buck, George Santos, Bill Johnson, and McCarthy as private citizens.)

Second, of course, is the fear that any replacement would almost certainly be worse. “If you vacate Johnson, we’re not electing a Republican Speaker,” a senior G.O.P. aide close to leadership told me bluntly. “Like, we barely elected him. The margins are smaller now… Hell, with the margins as tight as they are, you could accidentally elect [Democratic Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries. But more realistically, you end up with some sort of negotiated speaker who is palatable to enough Democrats and enough Republicans for them to become Speaker of the House.” …

House Speaker Mike Johnson is committed to advancing Ukraine aid. But it will be a difficult task https://t.co/VDA5K5znhj

— The Associated Press (@AP) March 27, 2024


“Committed… “, he says:

For over a month, House Speaker Mike Johnson has sat on a funding package that would send desperately needed ammunition and weaponry to Ukraine, mulling how best to gain a grasp of what is expected to be a difficult lift in the House.

The Republican speaker has indicated he will attempt to push for approval of tens of billions in wartime funding for Ukraine, as well as Israel, once the House returns in April. Yet it will be perhaps his most difficult task since he took the speaker’s gavel late last year.

“We’ll turn our attention to it and we won’t delay on that,” the Louisiana representative said of the Ukraine package at a news conference last week…

Rep. Gregory Meeks, the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, called it “devastating” that the House has departed for a two-week break with the aid package left unresolved. He, along with many Democrats, called on Johnson to allow a vote on a Senate-approved bill.

“If you’re serious about helping Ukraine, you just put the bill on the floor and let’s vote — let the House have its will,” he said.

But hardline conservatives in the House, adamantly opposed to aid for Ukraine, are already frustrated with Johnson’s willingness to work with Democrats to pass legislation — so much so that it could cost him his job. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a far-right Republican from Georgia, has filed a motion to vacate Johnson as speaker and warned him not to put Ukraine funding on the House floor…

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    1. 1.

      Baud

      March 28, 2024 at 8:35 pm

      Difficult? Put it up for a vote. Done and done.

      ETA: Or what Meeks said.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      oldster

      March 28, 2024 at 8:43 pm

      “Democrats have repeatedly made clear that we will find bipartisan common ground with our Republican colleagues on any issue, whenever and wherever possible, to take care of the business of the American people,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) told reporters

      I love that guy. Delivers a clear, crisp message in a clear, authoritative tone.

      A different kind of communicator for Buttigieg, but just as good in his own way. Dems are building a bench.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Gin & Tonic

      March 28, 2024 at 8:45 pm

      But hardline conservatives in the House, adamantly opposed to aid for Ukraine

      I’m so old I can remember when “hardline conservatives” steadfastly supported what they called “captive nations.”

      Reply
    4. 4.

      eclare

      March 28, 2024 at 8:46 pm

      @Baud:

      It continues to amaze me how invertebrates can walk at all.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      SpaceUnit

      March 28, 2024 at 8:48 pm

      Johnson should just put the bill up for a vote and let it pass.  If the goblins come for his job let them have it.  Really can’t image he’s enjoying it all that much.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Baud

      March 28, 2024 at 8:49 pm

      @Gin & Tonic:

      And hated Russia.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 8:50 pm

      I read that MTG is so pissed about Mike Gallagher‘s decision to quit the House AFTER Michigan’s deadline to hold a special election to replace him, she wants the GQP to oust him earlier than his announced retirement date – so Michigan can replace him before the cutoff deadline for a special election.

      I wonder if she can muster enough support?

      edit: 2/3 majority needed.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      March 28, 2024 at 8:51 pm

      @SpaceUnit: I can’t imagine why anyone would want that job. It’s impossible

      ETA: It’s not just the tiny majority. Pelosi had small majorities sometimes. It’s the lunacy of their members.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Baud

      March 28, 2024 at 8:51 pm

      @Jackie:

      Need a ⅔ vote. Dems wouldn’t go for it.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Parfigliano

      March 28, 2024 at 8:52 pm

      Tell me how a big chunk of the GOP isnt owned by Putin?

      Reply
    11. 11.

      A Ghost to Most

      March 28, 2024 at 8:53 pm

      Moses Johnson found himself a burning bush, and jumped in.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      MomSense

      March 28, 2024 at 8:53 pm

      @Baud:

      Isn’t the reason they won’t bring it up for a vote because they are following the rule named for the former speaker Hastert who is a convicted child molester?

      Reply
    13. 13.

      wjca

      March 28, 2024 at 8:53 pm

      I’m not entirely clear on the minutia of the rules.  If Johnson moves the aid bill to the floor, can the nutcases somehow force the vote to vacate the chair to happen first?  Or does the aid bill vote happen first?

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Baud

      March 28, 2024 at 8:54 pm

      @MomSense:

      Haven’t they passed other bills with Dem votes.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Tony Jay

      March 28, 2024 at 8:55 pm

      It’s delicious.

      Until the MAGA Party ousts every single GOP Rep and Senator who would even consider voting with a Democrat for wherever they’ve decided is against MAGA ‘principles’ this week, the margins are too tight for them to rule over the ruin they embody.

      So as long as there’s enough Democrats to join with the saner Republicans to pass necessary funding bills during this period of not-Dem majority stasis, the MAGA minority don’t get their fun.

      But the further right the MAGAts push their caucus, the more seats they lose to the Democrats, and the more seats they lose to the Democrats the harder they have to push in order to take control of the GOP policy machine, with the vain hope that their preferred ideological gotterdamerung will be attractive to Mr and Missus Average American. And there’s an Election this year, and the GOP has picked Stinkypants McPorridgebrain as its standard bearer.

      Basically, I think the Democrats are in with a shot of across the board victories.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      Percysowner

      March 28, 2024 at 8:56 pm

       

      Article I, section 5 of the United States Constitution provides that “Each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member.”

      They can’t get the votes to pass a freaking bill without Democratic help. I don’t think the Democrats will help MTG get to 2/3 of the House in order to make it easier for the Republicans to keep their majority. He was elected, even if the Republican Party kicks him out that doesn’t get him out of the House itself. \

      I may be missing something, but I think he played them and played them good.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Mike in NC

      March 28, 2024 at 8:57 pm

      Empty Greene is probably going to be Fat Bastard’s choice for running mate, even if he’d say she’s not his type. We can only dream.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      VFX Lurker

      March 28, 2024 at 8:58 pm

      @Jackie: Minor correction: Gallagher represents Wisconsin, not Michigan.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 9:00 pm

      @Jackie: Found a link, and Gallagher represents Wisconsin, not Michigan.

      https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4553767-greene-mike-gallagher-expelled-special-election/amp/

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    20. 20.

      wjca

      March 28, 2024 at 9:02 pm

      @Tony Jay: …there’s an Election this year, and the GOP has picked Stinkypants McPorridgebrain as its standard bearer.

      Basically, I think the Democrats are in with a shout of across the board victories.

      It seems that the Republicans are absolutely determined to lose in November.  Perhaps to get back to the put-upon-minority status that they are more comfortable with.  That being the case, the Democrats will have their job cut out for them to keep it from happening.

      Apathy and/or complacency could possibly do the trick.  But it will take work.  So the question is, can Democrats somehow manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this year?

      Reply
    21. 21.

      cain

      March 28, 2024 at 9:02 pm

      @Mike in NC:

      They won’t get anyone from the House as it will make things even worse. But if they did pick one they could pick MTG but MTG is doing a great job of making the Dems gain more power

      Reply
    22. 22.

      hueyplong

      March 28, 2024 at 9:03 pm

      @Mike in NC: Seems like he needs her to be in the House.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 9:04 pm

      For no particular reason, other than I’m drunk:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction

      Reply
    24. 24.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 9:04 pm

      @Baud: That’s good! So MTG can just stew in her own bitterness – as usual! 😁

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Baud

      March 28, 2024 at 9:04 pm

      MTG would gut Trump like a fish to be president, and Trump knows it.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Matt McIrvin

      March 28, 2024 at 9:04 pm

      During the George W. Bush era, I recall how the Republicans would just slam through one bill after another with a majority of “50%+1”. That was when they learned to optimize them to be as hardcore as possible–if any Democrats supported them, they knew they were leaving something on the table and should make it more extreme. They moved in lockstep. Democrats just seemed like they were getting steamrolled.

      This is the opposite of that. Forget laws, these people can’t even pass a House bill when they have the majority. They can’t even retain a Speaker. And I think it’s because people whose experience of politics began with that constitutional hardball era started getting high on their own supply. They can’t even think about strategy because politics is about messianic fantasies for them.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      Eolirin

      March 28, 2024 at 9:04 pm

      @Jackie: I don’t think there’s a way for them to have the numbers to do that. I think they’d need a 2/3rds majority and no Democrat is going to go along with it.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 9:05 pm

      Americans are spending over $11,400 more annually to buy basic goods under his failed policies.

      If that were fuckin’ true I’d be bankrupt right now.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 9:06 pm

      FUCK EVERY GODDAMNED VOTER WHO HAS ENOUGH MONEY FOR SPORTS BETTING AND 60K PICKUP TRUCK WHO’S COMPLAINING ABOUT INFLATION FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!!

      Reply
    30. 30.

      brantl

      March 28, 2024 at 9:06 pm

      I think those little glasses of his are ahint about who catturd really is.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Mr. Bemused Senior

      March 28, 2024 at 9:09 pm

      @different-church-lady: well, you did tell us you’ve been drinking.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Tony Jay

      March 28, 2024 at 9:09 pm

      @wjca:

      It’s tricky, but they could tell the duskier elements of the solid Dem base that they’ve had their disruptive fun and now they have to swallow a metric shit-ton of tyre rims and anthrax in order to back the Biden/RFG ticket at the election.

      But they probably won’t. 

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Dickeylee

      March 28, 2024 at 9:12 pm

      @Jackie: Wisconsin…

      Reply
    34. 34.

      MomSense

      March 28, 2024 at 9:12 pm

      @Baud:

      I think only on continuing resolutions to keep government open and that’s what ended McCarthy’s tenure as speaker and why MTG wants to oust Johnson.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 9:13 pm

      @Mr. Bemused Senior: ​
        IF THAT IS NOT A ROTATING TAG BY MORNING THERE WILL BE LAWSUITS!!!

      Reply
    36. 36.

      RSA

      March 28, 2024 at 9:13 pm

      Open thread? Here’s David Simon (of Homicide and The Wire fame) on X, schooling conservative trolls and Republican politicians (but I repeat myself) about the Baltimore Key Bridge collapse.  Sample:

      To Anthony Sabatini, the former Florida congressman who wrote “DEI did this” – referring to diversity, equity and inclusion – Simon took no prisoners. “Your mother did you, but after a hard life of service on a truck-stop lot, can we really hold her loosened, battered womb responsible for dropping you head-first on the Winnebago floor and burdening our society with another empty, racist demagogue thereafter? We cannot.”

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Harrison Wesley

      March 28, 2024 at 9:19 pm

      @brantl: The original catturd?  Because I believe the entity which refers to itself as catturd 2 claims FL for its litterbox.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      West of the Rockies

      March 28, 2024 at 9:19 pm

      Isn’t MAGA essentially the Tea Party with more (and more stupid) adherents?

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Jay

      March 28, 2024 at 9:20 pm

      “Committed… “, he says:

      and if you believe that, I have a very recent former bridge to sell you.

      Btw, “Law Enforcement” didn’t even make it into the top 25 of the deadliest jobs in the US in 2023. Those guys filling potholes did, along with most of the jobs filled by new immigrants and undocumented labour.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 9:21 pm

      @Harrison Wesley: ​
        The spooky thing about “Catturd2” is that it implies it’s an improvement over Catturd v.1

      Reply
    41. 41.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 9:22 pm

      @West of the Rockies: It’s the Tea Party with new and improved.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      Mr. Bemused Senior

      March 28, 2024 at 9:22 pm

      @different-church-lady: in my experience upgrades are mostly better avoided.

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Martin

      March 28, 2024 at 9:23 pm

      @Jackie: No. It’s a ⅔ vote to expel a member. Democrats won’t go along with it. Not to mention, the House is on vacation until the deadline.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 9:24 pm

      @RSA:

      You can certainly speculate wildly and no one can stop you, but doing so doesn’t make you any less the asshole here.”

      Also nominated.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      Martin

      March 28, 2024 at 9:24 pm

      @different-church-lady: Remember, $80K F-150s are basic goods.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      JPL

      March 28, 2024 at 9:25 pm

      @Mike in NC: nope. If trump loses, which he will, she’ll run for Senate.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      eclare

      March 28, 2024 at 9:25 pm

      @Percysowner:

      Sounds like that to me!  I didn’t realize that he had set his retirement date after the date needed to call for a special election.  Sneaky and pissed off!

      Reply
    48. 48.

      schrodingers_cat

      March 28, 2024 at 9:26 pm

      Has Nikki Haley endorsed the Orange Man yet?

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 9:27 pm

      OK, got it, everybody! 2/3’s needed! 😉

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Scout211

      March 28, 2024 at 9:28 pm

      Republican stupidity is also local.

      Republican paranoia over migrants has reached a new level of absurdity, as a State Representative and the State GOP Chair launched a conspiracy that buses of migrants were invading Michigan. It turns out it was the Gonzaga basketball team arriving for the game in the NCAA tournament.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      Scout211

      March 28, 2024 at 9:30 pm

      @Jackie: OK, got it, everybody! 2/3’s needed

      Piling on, a balloon-juice tradition!  You should feel honored.  😉

      Reply
    52. 52.

      NotMax

      March 28, 2024 at 9:33 pm

      @different-church-lady

      Why there’s not a celebrity chef going under the moniker Maillard Fillmore continues to be a puzzlement.
      ;)

      Reply
    53. 53.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 9:36 pm

      @JPL: GAWD I HOPE NOT!!!

      Jon Ossoff’s term isn’t up until ‘26, and hopefully MTG will have bitterly quit politics by then, because Dems control EVERYTHING!🤞🏻

      Reply
    54. 54.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 9:37 pm

      @Scout211: Oh, I do, I do! 😂

      Reply
    55. 55.

      topclimber

      March 28, 2024 at 9:40 pm

      I believe there are 28 red states. All but 16 have already had primaries.

      Does that perhaps mean that GOP house members in 12 states no longer have to worry about being primaried by MAGA?

      Cause…maybe: those among them in favor of aid to Ukraine might start showing some testicularity (used here in the non-sexist sense).

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Timill

      March 28, 2024 at 9:40 pm

      @eclare: It’s even sillier than that: if he quits on or after the second Tuesday in April, the primary and general elections to fill the seat are held on the same dates as the regular primary and general elections.

      When is the House next in session? April 9th. The second Tuesday in April…

      https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/8/50/4/b

      https://www.house.gov/legislative-activity/2024-04-10

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    57. 57.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 9:40 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Nikki’s been very quiet since she suspended her campaign. Like radio silence quiet.

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Redshift

      March 28, 2024 at 9:40 pm

      Pastor Mike thinks he’s Moses. It looks increasingly likely he’s going to get his tribe their forty years in the wilderness! (If you have enough hubris to believe something like that, at least don’t be dumb enough to think you’re only going to get the good parts…)

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Redshift

      March 28, 2024 at 9:43 pm

      @topclimber:

      Does that perhaps mean that GOP house members in 12 states no longer have to worry about being primaried by MAGA?

      Nah, they’ve had their presidential primaries. Congressional primaries are usually (always?) later in the year.

      Reply
    60. 60.

      Harrison Wesley

      March 28, 2024 at 9:43 pm

      @different-church-lady: “Catturd 2: The Catturdening”

      Reply
    61. 61.

      Freemark

      March 28, 2024 at 9:47 pm

      @Scout211: Well, in their defense, Gonzaga must sound like a country full of brown melanin-enhanced people to them.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Gwangung

      March 28, 2024 at 9:47 pm

      @Scout211: and kept on doubling down when this was pointed out to him.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Jeffro

      March 28, 2024 at 9:53 pm

      are ANY of them happy (on the GOP side)?  even slightly?

      They all seem to fall into two camps: complete psychos who lash out at literally everything (usually, in some sort of lame defense of trumpov, or at best, a “we’re rubber, YOU’RE GLUE!” attack on Dems) or grudging, plodding zombies who know what’s coming this November (and beyond).

      MTG, Stefanik, and many of the Fox talking heads are in the former camp.  McConnell, Rubio, and many of the Rs who have weakly opposed trumpov at some point are in the latter.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Princess

      March 28, 2024 at 9:53 pm

      Someone needs to remind Pastor Mike that Moses never got to see the Promised Land.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      Jeffro

      March 28, 2024 at 9:55 pm

      @Parfigliano: Tell me how a big chunk most of the GOP isn’t owned by Putin?

      Fixed and also here’s your answer: I can’t.  Because it is.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      Jeffro

      March 28, 2024 at 9:59 pm

      @West of the Rockies:Isn’t MAGA essentially the Tea Party with more (and more stupid) adherents?

      Tea Party squared (cubed?) = all of the racism, ten times the nihilism, plus cult-like devotion to a life-long con man who hates who they hate, only out loud.

      (so…yes)

      Reply
    67. 67.

      RaflW

      March 28, 2024 at 10:00 pm

      “Right now, Greene is … accusing Johnson of funding full-term abortion clinics.”

      It is still wild to me that news outlets don’t feel like they need to say “…funding full-term abortion clinics (neither the clinics nor the funding of them exist)”. It’s a pretty important thing, I think, to point out that her accusations are 100% unfounded, alarmist claptrap.

      Reply
    68. 68.

      mrmoshpotato

      March 28, 2024 at 10:00 pm

      @different-church-lady:

      FUCK EVERY GODDAMNED VOTER WHO HAS ENOUGH MONEY FOR SPORTS BETTING AND 60K PICKUP TRUCK WHO’S COMPLAINING ABOUT INFLATION FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!! 

      Sugarcoating it!

      Reply
    69. 69.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      March 28, 2024 at 10:01 pm

      Which one is MTG: is she the one who jacks off people in public places or is she the one who sleeps with her customers?

      Reply
    70. 70.

      different-church-lady

      March 28, 2024 at 10:02 pm

      @Princess: Naw, let him find out the hard way.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      wombat probability cloud

      March 28, 2024 at 10:03 pm

      @oldster: Yep, the kids are alright.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      Harrison Wesley

      March 28, 2024 at 10:04 pm

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: I thought that was Lauren Boe-boe-boebert

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Jeffro

      March 28, 2024 at 10:04 pm

      OT but hey, thanks for helping highlight the differences here, GOP!

      Republican States Sue Biden Admin In Order to Keep College Grads Poor Forever

      (I may have paraphrased that header a bit)

      The Education Department declined to comment on the lawsuit. But in a statement Thursday, it said the administration “has been fighting to fix a broken student loan system, and part of that is creating the most affordable student loan repayment plan ever. The Biden-Harris Administration won’t stop fighting to provide support and relief to borrowers across the country — no matter how many times Republican elected officials try to stop us.”

      Keep bangin’ Dems!!!

      Reply
    74. 74.

      NotMax

      March 28, 2024 at 10:05 pm

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      Boebert’s the theater diddler.

      Greene is the one obsessed with Hunter’s penis.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      topclimber

      March 28, 2024 at 10:06 pm

      @Redshift: Six  have had legislative primaries too, including Texas and Ohio, two of the three biggest.

      It turns out there are 20 GOP states rather than 28.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      CaseyL

      March 28, 2024 at 10:07 pm

      The GOP has spent 50 years telling people that government is the enemy.
      The current crop of MAGAts in office are in the 20s-60s age range, so they grew up marinated in that crap propaganda.
      Obviously, they don’t want government to actually work. Less obviously, they have no idea how to make government work even when they want to.
      That’s how you get a bumper crop of politicians who are in it for the social media hits/RW news appearances/grift fund raising. They don’t legislate because legislating is “making government work,” that is a Bad Thing – and also because they don’t know how.​

      Reply
    77. 77.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 10:09 pm

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Maybe both?

      Boebert is notoriously known for playing the hanky panky with a date in a theater during a play featuring Beetlejuice.

      MTG is known for husband cheating with clients in her fitness gym. Extra curricular gymnastics, if you will.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      NotMax

      March 28, 2024 at 10:15 pm

      @Jackie

      Obligatory?
      :)

      Reply
    79. 79.

      RaflW

      March 28, 2024 at 10:16 pm

      @Jeffro: Not to be pollyanna, but I think an updated variation of Hubert Humphrey’s “happy warrior” moniker could work for quite a few Dems.

      Republicans, not just Trump, but seemingly a wide swath of them, are just so bitter, pissed off, with a dark and very distasteful view of America and humanity in general. Its both brittle and a complete turnoff.

      Relatedly, Ed Zitron has a fantastic piece up about Musty. “This is not somebody with… excitement about his companies or the world around him, but one of a million boorish conservative men grinding their axes about the problems they’ve created.”

      (MTG is a extremely boorish conservative woman, but the point stands.)

      Reply
    80. 80.

      PST

      March 28, 2024 at 10:16 pm

      @oldster:

      A different kind of communicator for Buttigieg, but just as good in his own way. Dems are building a bench.

      I saw Buttigieg interviewed this evening about the Baltimore bridge disaster. He looks a little older and sounds a little less glib. Both are probably good for him politically. Agree about the bench.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      HumboldtBlue

      March 28, 2024 at 10:19 pm

      @Jackie: ​ 

      C’mon, Jackie, it takes 2/3 of the house!

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Odie Hugh Manatee

      March 28, 2024 at 10:21 pm

      I like to refer to Mikey as The House Johnson. Given that, I wonder if some boner pills would stiffen up his spine.

      He is quite a dick .

      Reply
    83. 83.

      A Lurker

      March 28, 2024 at 10:22 pm

      @different-church-lady:

      Fyi, $60k is on the low end now for pickups. 

      I bought a off-lease BMW 3 a few years back for just over $25k. I regularly get comments about my pricy ride from people driving new Ford trucks and Toyota SUVs that I know go for like 2-3x the price of my sedan.

      🙄

      Reply
    84. 84.

      Jeffro

      March 28, 2024 at 10:23 pm

      @RaflW:Not to be pollyanna, but I think an updated variation of Hubert Humphrey’s “happy warrior” moniker could work for quite a few Dems.

      Seconded!

      “Who’s happy…because they’re doing the work?  The work of looking. out. for. YOU?  DEMS!!1!”

      Reply
    85. 85.

      NotMax

      March 28, 2024 at 10:24 pm

      @RaflW

      Al Smith was the Happy Warrior, a nickname bestowed upon him at the 1924 Democratic convention by FDR

      Reply
    86. 86.

      mrmoshpotato

      March 28, 2024 at 10:24 pm

      @Odie Hugh Manatee:

      I like to refer to Mikey as The House Johnson. Given that, I wonder if some boner pills would stiffen up his spine.

      He is quite a dick .

      Hahaha! Very nice!

      Reply
    87. 87.

      Marcopolo

      March 28, 2024 at 10:24 pm

      @Jackie: Saw folks told you about the need for a 2/3 vote.  But did anyone mention Gallagher is from WI, not MI? The conventional wisdom is he plans to run for Ron Johnson’s senate seat when RJ retires.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 10:27 pm

      @NotMax: I ♥️ Tommy James and the Shondells!

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 10:28 pm

      @HumboldtBlue: 😂

      Reply
    90. 90.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 10:31 pm

      @Marcopolo: Yes! 😁

      Actually, I corrected myself a few posts later. I feel quite popular tonight!☺️

      Reply
    91. 91.

      topclimber

      March 28, 2024 at 10:32 pm

      @Jackie: Jackals bite at her ankles, but Jackie stands tall.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      PST

      March 28, 2024 at 10:38 pm

      Not quite on topic, but a comment on MTG’s lust for her party’s VP nod made me think of it. My prediction of TFG’s pick for running mate is (Tada!) Nicole Shanahan. He’s probably kicking himself right now that he let RFKJ get the jump on him, but surely that loser would be kicked to the curb in a Silicon Valley nanosecond in favor of a candidate who might actually (oh God, I hate to say it) win. And she has everything he lusts after, most particularly, plenty of money and a propensity to spend it on stupid ads.

      Reply
    93. 93.

      topclimber

      March 28, 2024 at 10:38 pm

      In non-Jackie news: Israeli court ends subsidies for orthodox Jews who avoid military service.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      mrmoshpotato

      March 28, 2024 at 10:39 pm

      @Jackie: I was hoping for Mony Mony.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      Kristine

      March 28, 2024 at 10:39 pm

      @Jackie: It’s your lucky night!

      Reply
    96. 96.

      RaflW

      March 28, 2024 at 10:42 pm

      @NotMax: No reason to doubt that, but it’s a moniker quite commonly associated with HHH as well, and I think the more commonly recalled one.

      Reply
    97. 97.

      NotMax

      March 28, 2024 at 10:42 pm

      @Jackie

      Did someone say popular?
      :)

      Reply
    98. 98.

      Steve in the ATL

      March 28, 2024 at 10:47 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: nah, Hanky Panky is a better song!

      Reply
    99. 99.

      Scout211

      March 28, 2024 at 10:47 pm

      @PST: My prediction of TFG’s pick for running mate is (Tada!) Nicole Shanahan

      Yesterday on his Truth Social boondoggle, he called Shanahan a dirty word.  He called her a liberal!  Oh the humanity! But add a few million in with the Veep nomination and he might make an exception to her political leanings.

      I still predict it will be JD Vance.

      Reply
    100. 100.

      Ken

      March 28, 2024 at 10:49 pm

      @Redshift: When does the Lord try to kill Johnson, and is only deterred when Johnson’s wife cuts off the tip of their son’s penis? Exodus 4:24-26, in the spirit of “not just the good parts”.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      wjca

      March 28, 2024 at 10:49 pm

      @Parfigliano: Tell me how a big chunk of the GOP isnt owned by Putin?

      Because Putin sees no need to waste money on those who are already useful idiots by nature.  Of which there are rather a lot.

      Reply
    102. 102.

      Marcopolo

      March 28, 2024 at 10:52 pm

      Biden @ the Radio City fundraiser tonight:

      ”Harry Truman said if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.  I got one and it bit a secret service agent.”

      Dark Brandon humor

      Reply
    103. 103.

      PST

      March 28, 2024 at 10:54 pm

      @Scout211:

      I still predict it will be JD Vance.

      We should be so lucky.

      Reply
    104. 104.

      Quiltingfool

      March 28, 2024 at 10:58 pm

      @Mike in NC: Whenever I hear MTG speak, the first thought I have is “Who asked what the stupid people think?”

      Reply
    105. 105.

      Another Scott

      March 28, 2024 at 11:01 pm

      @Scout211: For the Thiel connection?  Hmm.  That kinda makes sense.

      TIFG needs money and needs the approval of the bazillionaires.  The Mercers and the DeVoseses and a bunch of others helped him last time.  He may be desperate to pick someone that can get lots of money dumped on them for him.

      It would be stupid for him to pick a senator given how close the body is and how important it is to the RWNJs (judges, etc.), but he does all kinds of stupid stuff.  And bazillionaires aren’t especially smart either.

      We’ll see.

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    106. 106.

      wjca

      March 28, 2024 at 11:04 pm

      @Another Scott: For the Thiel connection?  Hmm.  That kinda makes sense.

      TIFG needs money and needs the approval of the bazillionaires.

      Why pick anybody for the Thiel connection?  Just eliminate the middle man and pick Thiel himself.

      Reply
    107. 107.

      mrmoshpotato

      March 28, 2024 at 11:07 pm

      @Steve in the ATL: No sir, no.  I did not have Hanky Panky running through my head for months for a reason.  It was Mony Mony.  And I couldn’t remember the lyrics, so I was making up my own lyrics trying to remember what song it was.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      RevRick

      March 28, 2024 at 11:10 pm

      @different-church-lady: This is the GOP trick of the lie by omission. What’s missing is the accompanying pay raises. (Or, as in my case, Social Security increases).

      Reply
    109. 109.

      Another Scott

      March 28, 2024 at 11:20 pm

      @wjca: :-)

      Wikipedia says he was born in Germany and his parents emigrated when he was young.

      Speaking of immigrants…

      Dgar
      @[email protected]

      Stallone: I’m making a movie about classical composers. I’ll be Beethoven.

      Van Damme: I’ll be Mozart.

      Schwarzenegger: Stop it guys. I’m not saying it.

      Mar 28, 2024, 02:28 PM

      [ groucho-roll-eyes.gif ]

      [ rofl ]

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    110. 110.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 28, 2024 at 11:23 pm

      @Another Scott: Took me a few seconds…

      “I’ll be Bach…”

      Reply
    111. 111.

      sab

      March 28, 2024 at 11:24 pm

      @wjca: Peter Thiel is a German immigrant naturalized US citizen so he is ineligible for VP

      ETA Another Scott beat me to it.

      Reply
    112. 112.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 28, 2024 at 11:26 pm

      @sab: Republicans don’t even care whether they won an election, they assert authority.  I can’t imagine they much care where their prospective God-Emporer in-waiting was born.

      Reply
    113. 113.

      Jackie

      March 28, 2024 at 11:29 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: I now always smile when I hear Mony Mony, as my then 17 yr old daughter was driving – the driver chose the radio station – and Mony Mony came on. Needless to say, it wasn’t The Shondells’ version, but close enough, and I started singing along. “YOU know this song?!?!!”

      Good times!🥰

      Reply
    114. 114.

      wjca

      March 28, 2024 at 11:34 pm

      @Another Scott: Wikipedia says he was born in Germany and his parents emigrated when he was young.

      Surely a mind which can declassify documents just by thinking about it can make an immigrant into a natural born citizen jusy be deciding he is.  At least if he’s an immigrant from Europe.  And has big bucks.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      eclare

      March 28, 2024 at 11:36 pm

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

      Thank you!  I never would have gotten that

      Reply
    116. 116.

      eclare

      March 28, 2024 at 11:39 pm

      @Jackie:

      Hehehe…when I was in college in the late 80’s, there was a very raunchy shout out when Billy Idol was between lyrics.

      Reply
    117. 117.

      wjca

      March 28, 2024 at 11:42 pm

      @eclare:  I never would have gotten that. 

      I confess that I started with “I’ll be Brahms” before I hit the right answer.

      Reply
    118. 118.

      Captain C

      March 28, 2024 at 11:46 pm

      @Matt McIrvin:

      I think it’s because people whose experience of politics began with that constitutional hardball era started getting high on their own supply. They can’t even think about strategy because politics is about messianic fantasies for them.

      I remember when the Tea Party first came into being and the House ‘Freedom’ Caucus started being nothing but an obstructive body, someone somewhere pointing out that in 1994, when the Gingrich Contract On America demonize-your-opponents-as-evil-enemies strategy began, most of the Republican. congresspeople knew that despite the rhetoric, you ultimately had to get something done (especially once the Gingrich shutdowns backfired).  But by 2010, the majority of the Republican caucus had only experienced government in the post-Gingrich era, and had no idea that they were supposed to do anything but extremism and posturing.  This has only gotten worse in the 14 years since then.

      Reply
    119. 119.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 28, 2024 at 11:47 pm

      @wjca: I, myself, started puzzling over a generalized notion of Arnold Schwarzenegar whereupon reading groucho eye roll it came to me like lightning from the blue.

      Reply
    120. 120.

      Captain C

      March 28, 2024 at 11:53 pm

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: The latter, definitely.  Though I wouldn’t be surprised if ‘both’ were correct.  Boebert is the one who got filmed vaping and jacking off her date at a musical.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Captain C

      March 28, 2024 at 11:54 pm

      @NotMax:

      Greene is the one obsessed with Hunter’s penis.

      Does anyone know if both her hands were above the table/desk when those pics were being shown in committee?

      Reply
    122. 122.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 28, 2024 at 11:59 pm

      @NotMax: Greene is the one obsessed with Hunter’s penis.

      It seems a while now that I, myself, have wanted to know what all the hubbub was about…

      Reply
    123. 123.

      Timill

      March 29, 2024 at 12:05 am

      @wjca: I started with “Well, Bruckner was Austrian, too”…

      Reply
    124. 124.

      Jackie

      March 29, 2024 at 12:11 am

      For whatever reason, copying/pasting attempts disappear halfway through posting.

      This link takes you to stage two of the Biden-Harris needling TIFG’s campaign schedule via social media. It’s funnier than hell; well worth the click!

      https://www.rawstory.com/biden-trump-gloves-off/

      Reply
    125. 125.

      espierce

      March 29, 2024 at 12:13 am

      @different-church-lady:

      Hello, I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter.

      Reply
    126. 126.

      Frankensteinbeck

      March 29, 2024 at 12:14 am

      @topclimber:

      Israeli court ends subsidies for orthodox Jews who avoid military service.

      I was talking about that in an earlier thread.  This is a huge cultural shift.  Those twin policies of getting to skip national service and get paid for religious education were the backbone of the ultra-orthodox forming a privileged, grotesquely bigoted subculture where it was easy to keep their children following their tradition.  I can’t imagine what the political ramifications will be.  This goes vastly beyond whether the ultra-orthodox are warmongerers.

      Reply
    127. 127.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 29, 2024 at 12:15 am

      @Jackie: Hit him with the double basement. Ouch.

      Reply
    128. 128.

      Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

      March 29, 2024 at 12:19 am

      @different-church-lady: No wonder we love you, dear lady.

      Reply
    129. 129.

      Gretchen

      March 29, 2024 at 12:30 am

      OMG! Mark Leibovich is on Alex Wagner saying that the Biden event in NYC today that broke the record for one day fundraising is bad for Biden because Obama and Clinton are old news. Where’s Doug J?

      Reply
    130. 130.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 29, 2024 at 12:35 am

      @Gretchen: Old news?

      I have an established history of maintaining decorum around celebrities. I guarantee that to this day I would fangirl out for Obama. He might be the only one.

      I’m more impressed with the initial trajectory of Biden’s presidency and that still holds true. The hopenchange left an indelible mark on my soul.

      Reply
    131. 131.

      eclare

      March 29, 2024 at 12:39 am

      @Gretchen:

      And yeah, absolutely no one likes those too!

      According to Gallup, Clinton left office with 66% approval.  Obama was at 59%.  What losers!

      https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/final-presidential-job-approval-ratings

      Reply
    132. 132.

      eclare

      March 29, 2024 at 12:49 am

      @eclare:

      Damn spellcheck.

      Reply
    133. 133.

      Melancholy Jaques

      March 29, 2024 at 12:49 am

      @Jackie:

      Tommy James and the Shondells, an underrated band.

      Many years later, Billy Idol, Joan Jett, and Tiffany each had a hit with a cover of one of their songs.

      Reply
    134. 134.

      eclare

      March 29, 2024 at 12:59 am

      @Jackie:

      Wow!  That is prime Dark Brandon.

      https://x.com/BidenHQ/status/1773417798158479848?s=20

      Reply
    135. 135.

      karen marie

      March 29, 2024 at 1:58 am

      @Scout211: He’s going to pick the one least likely to have him sectioned with the 25th amendment.

      Reply
    136. 136.

      Kathleen

      March 29, 2024 at 2:46 am

      @mrmoshpotato: i love Crystal Blue Persuasion

      Reply
    137. 137.

      Bruce K in ATH-GR

      March 29, 2024 at 3:26 am

      @eclare: Yeah. I read somewhere that part of their advertising campaign is specifically designed to drive TFG crazy (or crazier, anyway) and goad him into losing his temper and doing stupid things. Granted, he’d do stupid things anyway, but there’s no reason for them not to throw him an anvil or two along the way.

      Reply
    138. 138.

      sab

      March 29, 2024 at 3:34 am

      @Gretchen: Mark Leibovich has spent his whole life trying to raise cynicism to an art form.

      Reply
    139. 139.

      Citizen Alan

      March 29, 2024 at 4:05 am

      @wjca: The evangelicals would not countenance a gay VP. The rest of the nation would not countenance a VP who was an aspiring vampire.

      Reply
    140. 140.

      sab

      March 29, 2024 at 4:49 am

      @Citizen Alan: They wouldn’t countenance an out gay VP. They already had another.

      Reply
    141. 141.

      WaterGirl

      March 29, 2024 at 9:47 am

      @RSA:

      Note to self:  Do not piss of David Simon!

      Reply
    142. 142.

      Miss Bianca

      March 29, 2024 at 9:48 am

      @RSA: Whoa. Heh heh.

      (Reminder to self: Never, ever, let David Simon get that mad at me.)

      Reply
    143. 143.

      WaterGirl

      March 29, 2024 at 9:50 am

      @Jackie:

      It can feel like people are piling on, but of course everyone is just trying to be helpful and supply the information.

      It may be too late, but I did go back and add the 2/3 majority info to your comment.

      Reply
    144. 144.

      WaterGirl

      March 29, 2024 at 10:22 am

      @Gretchen: Where’s DougJ?  Surely sobbing in a corner.  they steal all his material.

      Reply

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