Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

75% of people clapping liked the show!

Republicans choose power over democracy, every day.

I don’t recall signing up for living in a dystopian sci-fi novel.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

If you’re gonna whine, it’s time to resign!

The republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

I would gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

They think we are photo bombing their nice little lives.

Speaker Mike Johnson is a vile traitor to the House and the Constitution.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

Be a wild strawberry.

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

I have other things to bitch about but those will have to wait.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

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  2. 2.

    JAFD

    School board elections today in Nuuk, getting myself together to get the polls ready to open.  Looks like a beautiful day here, hope ’tis great day for all you Jackals !

  4. 4.

    Jay

    President D.J. Trump took a power nap, to refresh himself during his unprecedented political trial,

    Why that is bad news for Old Biden.

    (NYT Pitchbot)

  5. 5.

    Betty Cracker

    @lgerard: Good lord! That asshole is here too? At least Trump is obliged to remain out of state for the duration of the trial.

  10. 10.

    Martin

    This is how 11 dimensional chess players plan their next 6 moves. Checkmate libtards – you just made him stronger.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    @Baud: 😂 With any luck, Rep./Dr. Ronnie Jackson will dial back on the monster’s sedatives, overshoot the mark and the “slack-mouthed old fart snoozes in court” story will be followed by accounts of incoherent tantrums. Pity it’s not televised.

  15. 15.

    hueyplong

    The pig went all slack-jawed slumberland, not in the third week of trial, but on day one. We might be underestimating the concern of his chemical handlers charged with finding the sweet spot in between rage and unconsciousness.

    You don’t want to miss any aspect of his fall.

    ETA- BC rises early to hit the point first.

  17. 17.

    Mousebumples

    Good morning!

    The Trump election interference trial feels like a soap opera, no? Today on As TFG Faces Consequences, will he stay awake? Or face Court-approved consequences for an outburst? Tune in today!

  21. 21.

    Baud

    Sad news for Denmark

    Denmark’s historic old stock exchange building in the centre of Copenhagen has been engulfed by fire.

    The 17th Century Børsen is one of the city’s oldest buildings and onlookers gasped as its iconic spire collapsed in the flames.

    Everyone inside the building was able to leave and people rushed to rescue some of its historic paintings.

  27. 27.

    p.a.

    Projecting nappytime strongly.  No one naps more strongly!  A perfect nap.  A beautiful, perfect nap.  People come up to me, tears in their eyes, they say “sir, your nappytime is an inspiration!  I didn’t really know nappytime until I saw yours!”

  29. 29.

    TBone

    Each and every day, his life gets worse and worse.  I wake up smiling.

    Trump Denouement Syndrome suits me.  Six weeks to go on just this trial, and we’ve only just begun the Finding Out.  I don’t even care about the verdict that much, this trial is delicious. I know it’s a serious case about election interference, but having refreshed my memory on the full transcript of the Access Hollywood tape (horrendous), I am not looking askance at the salacious details – the more, the merrier.  Make him squirm.

  30. 30.

    Ken

    I’m pretty sure that if Joe Biden were in court facing 80-odd charges, he’d manage to stay awake.

  31. 31.

    TBone

    Someone at another site posted Mags’ story yesterday that his aide who carries a little portable printer to constantly print out “good news” stories for him to read was forced to move from 2 rows behind him to the back row of court room seats where his other aides were seated. I’d forgotten about her and that utter weirdness.  😂

  32. 32.

    p.a.

    I get email.

    Maine joins National Popular Interstate Vote Compact.

     

    Is this a viable EC work-around?  Can’t R-majority state legislatures & governors read the popular vote trends & demographics and just back out of the agreement?  Will it come down to something as simple as “fuck off, we deny the legitimacy of the gvt’s numbers.”  According to Common Cause, the Compact is only 46 states’ EVs away from 218.

    And I can’t believe there isn’t big reich-wing leaders’ $$$ working against this movement.

  33. 33.

    Citizen Dave

    What if we all left the country while he is napping?  Would we finally be free of the nonstop orange bullshit in our faces every single day?

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @p.a.: And I can’t believe there isn’t big reich-wing leaders’ $$$ working against this movement.

    Lawyers cost $$$ so they are saving it for the multiple law suits they will file.

  35. 35.

    Tony Jay

      “President Trump was not, according to the LIES of the FAILED New York Media Circus, asleep or anything else they say. He was ALERT. Poised and on top of all the briefs as he was when he was Making America Great Again and WILL AGAIN due to the needs of the American People. As everyone knows he was listening to the audio feed from his crack legal team. And WILL AGAIN! This Witch-hunt Smear Crooked FRAUD of a Biden political assassination will FAIL. President Trump has heard this all before. Boring LIES and DEMOCRAT smears will NEVER damage your favourite President. FREEDOM!

    The RNC Media Dept has gone really downhill since the takeover. Probably.

  37. 37.

    catclub

    @TBone: his aide who carries a little portable printer to constantly print out “good news” stories for him to read

     

    Really??  That is incredibly needy.

  41. 41.

    catclub

    @p.a.: According to Common Cause, the Compact is only 46 states’ EVs away from 218.

     

    I think there are 535 total EV’s – 435 + 100

    so if they are only to 218-46=172, that is not great.

    The total needed is around 270, right?

  42. 42.

    TBone

    @catclub:

    Among the Trump aides in the courtroom is Natalie Harp, his ever-present favorite who uses a wireless printer to provide him with an ongoing stream of good news from the internet. She was initially sitting two rows behind the defense table, as she usually does. A security official in court just made her head to the back to sit in the same row as Trump’s other aides.

    nytimes.com/live/2024/04/15/nyregion/trump-hush-money-trial#trump-trial-hush-money-manhattan

  50. 50.

    TBone

    I have, for the time being, banished all other “first thing” coffee news and begin each day with this exuberance instead 🎶 it’s great in it’s brashness and the neighbors hate it

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jgZTDLeIs

    Living my best life in the beautiful outdoor Springtime mornings

  51. 51.

    Geminid

    @TBone: A friend was talking Sunday about the upcoming trial and noted the stress points for Trump. He has always been free to come and go as he wants, and he manages to be the center of attention wherever he is. Now Trump is stuck in a courtroom and the attention is focused on the people up front, with him only getting the side-eye. An intolerable situation for a brittle narcissist like Trump.

  52. 52.

    lowtechcyclist

    @p.a.:

    Is this a viable EC work-around? Can’t R-majority state legislatures & governors read the popular vote trends & demographics and just back out of the agreement?

    I can’t see anything preventing them from doing that, and that’s the rub.  And of course, one reason it’s only 209 EVs is that it would need to get through the legislatures in some purple states where the legislatures aren’t currently under Dem control, like Pennsylvania.

  56. 56.

    lowtechcyclist

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​
     

    Clarence Thomas absent from US supreme court with no explanation

    I have a wish list of reasons why.

    Starting with his imminent obituary, I assume.

  59. 59.

    Kay

    Tom Cotton@TomCottonAR

    I encourage people who get stuck behind the pro-Hamas mobs blocking traffic: take matters into your own hands to get them out of the way. It’s time to put an end to this nonsense.

    Oddly, no commentary on how a Senator advocating for killing peaceful protestors discredits this cause.

    They all use “pro Hamas” now too, to describe anyone who disagrees. Very nostalgiac. Reminds me of the War On Terror.

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    An Ohio man was charged with murder after shooting a Black ride-share driver in an unprovoked attack, following the most recent string of cases of Black Americans being shot while doing mundane things.

    William Brock, 81, who is white, was arrested after he fatally shot Lo-Letha Hall, 61, outside his home in South Charleston, Ohio, about an hour outside Dayton, NBC News reported. Brock told police that he shot Hall because he believed she was working with scammers who had allegedly called Brock’s home that same morning.

    No doubt “standing his ground.”

  62. 62.

    Kay

    The centrist ninnies spent 2 years hand wriinging over whether or not Tom Cotton wanted to kill BLM protestors with is “send in the troops!” order, and, lo and behold, now Tom Cotton comes right out and says he wants to kill pro Palestinian protestors.

    I think this debate is over. Tom Cotton wants to kill any and all protestors (unless they’re Right wing protestors – that’s like 1776).

  66. 66.

    RandomMonster

    There’s a non-zero chance the Great Pumpkin decides he needs to counter this with some righteous Biden-at-the-SOTU fury, gets all hopped up on goofballs, and rants like a lunatic in the courtroom today.

  69. 69.

    Kay

    @TBone:

    The NYTimes can stop holding meetings over whether he wanted to kill BLM protestors in the op ed they published.

    We read him correctly – he wanted to kill BLM protestors. I’m glad he’s cleared that up. Protest = imemdiate extrajudicial death penalty. That’s the Right Wing Patriot Position.

  71. 71.

    TBone

    @Kay: hubby bought a big Silverado over my vociferous protestation.  It’s good for something besides hauling ass.  It’s also good camouflage where I live, no one expects a flaming lib to jump out and laugh at them.  They get really surprised and that’s a good fulcrum – keep ’em off balance if you know what I mean.  Once we were accosted by some local teens in a parking lot because of our N95 masks.  They immediately regretted that.

  72. 72.

    Kay

    Imagine for a moment if a Democratic Senator called for people to attack Right wing protestors. It would be front page news in every outlet. The entire Democratic Party would denounce the Senator.

    But Tom Cotton calls for extra judicial killings every time there’s a Left wing protest and not a peep out of the hall monitors in the media.

  73. 73.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @catclub: Someone out there’s really crappy at arithmetic. From the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact website:

    National Popular Vote has been enacted by 16 states and the District of Columbia, including 4 small states (DE, HI, RI, VT), 9 medium-sized states (CO, CT, MD, MA, MN, NJ, NM, OR, WA), and 3 big states (CA, IL, NY). These jurisdictions have 205 of the 270 electoral votes needed to activate the law.

    Fret not, or at least not so much.

  74. 74.

    Ken

    @OzarkHillbilly: Actually, mine begins with him losing both his feet because of his out of control diabetes.

    Needs a touch more karma. What if there were a medication that could have prevented this, but the company stopped distribution because it can cause miscarriages, and they’re worried about the mifepristone case?

  75. 75.

    Mousebumples

    @OzarkHillbilly: if we see his obit before June some very problematic SC cases might end in a 4-4 deadlock. Or a less devastating than it would have been 5-3 decision.

    Also, I’d hope the Biden admin has a shortlist ready to go, just in case.

  77. 77.

    Kay

    @TBone:

    My husband has a big Jeep. We all buy Jeeps here because Toledo. It’s really nice to drive and I feel like he makes up for it because he rides his bike most places w/in 5 miles or so. I borrow it for long trips or trips with more than one person – I have a small car.

  79. 79.

    JML

    @catclub: 538 electoral votes. (1 for each member of the House, 1 for each member of the senate, plus DC) 218 is only a relevant number for the House. 270 is the relevant number for the electoral college.

  81. 81.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Ken: I said it begins with losing his feet, that did not preclude the many and varied maladies I hope will follow

  82. 82.

    TBone

    @hueyplong: that’s a great word.  It’s also what diapers do while you have to sit in them for a few hours. Oh, that’s gonna be putrid 😆

  83. 83.

    Tony Jay

    @Kay:

      They all use “pro Hamas” now too, to describe anyone who disagrees. Very nostalgiac. Reminds me of the War On Terror.

    Reminds me of the UK between 2016 and 2019, when pro-terrorist smears of steadily intensifying virulence were deployed as standard to unperson anyone who happened to be on the wrong side of the Left/Right political divide.

    You expect that from the Right and their Media allies, it’s harder to deal with when the chorus is padded out by all too many people who call themselves centre to centre-left, but simply can’t bring themselves to admit those damned embarrassing lefties are on the correct side of any argument.

  84. 84.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    The NYTimes should print the next Tom Cotton op ed “How I want to Murder All Left Wing Protestors”

    That’s simple and direct enough for even the handwringing ninnies to get, although who knows. They seem to be dumb as fucking rocks.

  86. 86.

    TBone

    Comment of the Day (so far):

    Maybe Clarence and Ginni are planning an RV assault on the ProPublica headquarters?

  87. 87.

    sdhays

    @p.a.: I support the idea behind the compact, but I have a very difficult time believing that if it ever went into effect that it would be found Constitutional by the Supreme Court.

    I don’t have a legal basis for that because 1) IANAL and 2) this Supreme Court makes shit up as it feels necessary and I know they would hate the compact.

  88. 88.

    Soprano2

    @Kay: I hate that “pro-Hamas” thing. Bill Maher says it too. It’s reprehensible that a U.S. Senator is telling people to run over peaceful protestors because they don’t like their cause. I don’t necessarily agree with their tactics – blocking traffic probably isn’t a way to get people on your side – but I don’t think anyone should run over them, either.

  89. 89.

    Kay

    @Tony Jay:

    All we need now is Andrew Sullivan and the “Fifth Column”:

    In recent weeks, Sullivan has taken it upon himself to evaluate whether his fellow writers and commentators are sufficiently patriotic. He broods darkly — in the pages of his native British press, on his Web site and on the Op-Ed pages of the Wall Street Journal — that America harbors nests of traitors, or in his words “decadent left enclaves on the coasts [that] may well mount a fifth column.” And like all Manichaean guardians of national security, from the days of the Alien and Sedition Acts to those of Joseph McCarthy, Sullivan has turned his pumped-up and disproportionate rhetoric toward rooting out these disloyal Americans in his midst.

  90. 90.

    Kay

    @Soprano2:

    It’s inconvenient in an election year but the truth is Israel still isn’t letting food aid in. Biden himself said it last week. Civilians will starve to death. Children will starve to death first – they’re smaller. Hundreds of thousands of people. They don’t have time to ask nicely. 

  91. 91.

    Ken

    @sdhays: True that, although as a counterpoint, the Trumpists have been pushing the idea that state legislatures can ignore their voters and send whatever slate of electors they want. Even this court might find it tricky to tack on “as long as it favors the Republican candidate”.

  92. 92.

    Kay

    @Soprano2:

    Anyone who fell for the “free speech” nonsense from the Right and Center sees what absolute horseshit that was now. They’re all for free speech as long as they agree with it. If they don’t agree they want the protests shut down and the protestors arrested or murdered.

  94. 94.

    Soprano2

    @Kay: Not saying they have to ask nicely, but I’m not sure blocking traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge is going to get people on your side. It’s unfortunate, because I agree that what’s happening in Gaza is a tragedy of epic proportions that’s preventable. I think it’s pretty obvious that Bibi’s government wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza and doesn’t care who knows it.

  96. 96.

    Soprano2

    @Kay: Yep, Maher casts himself as a “free speech warrior” but that breaks down as soon as it’s something he doesn’t agree with. Thus the “pro-Hamas” tag for people who want Palestinian civilians in Gaza treated humanely. Saying “pro-Hamas” is obviously meant to imply that all Palestinians are part of Hamas. I heard someone use the “but they voted for them” line just last week. Those elections were in 2005!!! Someone else on the panel pointed out how long ago that was. I wish more of them would talk about how Bibl has been complicit in keeping Hamas in power.

  97. 97.

    Kay

    Here’s John Fettreman calling the 75% of people who don’t want the US to give Netanyahu and absolute blank check “the fringe” and pro Hamas.
    I hope like hell Biden isn’t listening to him.

    Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) pushed back on Sunday against President Joe Biden’s reported warning to Benjamin Netanyahu that the U.S. would not join in an attack against Iran, repeating his monthslong refrain that the U.S. should unconditionally support Israel.

    “It’s astonishing that we are not standing firmly with Israel,” Fetterman told CNN’s Jake Tapper on State of the Union. “There should never be any time for conditions—all of that when a nation can launch hundreds of drones towards Israel—and I’m not going to be talking about conditions ever.”Tapper asked Fetterman whether he agreed with Biden’s decision to tell Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu to “take the win” for intercepting Iran’s missiles and drones, and his discouragement of an Israeli response, as reported by Axios and others. Fetterman said that, while he still supported the president, he disagreed with Biden and urged him to maintain full-throated support for Israel.

    “The president is entitled to his own views and whatever he decides to do, but I would never capitulate to the fringe,” Fetterman said. “In fact, that helps—that empowers Hamas, and Hamas is actually convinced that they are winning the PR war, and they’re never going to negotiate at this point. They think that they’re going to hold onto the very end.”

  99. 99.

    Kay

    @Soprano2:

    It’s so insanely short sighted. Unless something changes these people are going to starve. Does Maher think no one will notice? He thinks hundreds of thousands of people being pitched into a deliberate famine will go unremarked upon? I mean, Christ. Even if it isn’t mentioned in the US the rest of the world will notice. How do they see this “the US lets half a million people starve” policy they’re promoting working out? That’s a fucking disaster for the US. It will be a stain Biden will never overcome.

  101. 101.

    Jeffro

    @RandomMonster: There’s a non-zero chance the Great Pumpkin decides he needs to counter this with some righteous Biden-at-the-SOTU fury, gets all hopped up on goofballs, and rants like a lunatic in the courtroom today.

    truth!  and that non-zero chance is not single digits, either

    A few weeks ago I was at a dinner with some foreign guests, and the table talk eventually got around to…well…their horror that trumpov could end up president again.  I suggested to them that he was more likely than not to lose his shit and launch an outburst that either landed him in contempt (and thus in jail) or outright called for violence (also landing him in jail).  And from that point onward, trumpov’s poll numbers would begin a slow, inevitable slide towards the fabled 27%.

    I stand by that call.

  102. 102.

    Kay

    @Soprano2:

    They don’t care if people are on their side. They’re trying to get the attention of powerful elected officials and keep the ongoing huiman rights disaster in the news.

    Also, just to be clear, people are on their side. The polling on a blank check for Israel is atrocious. 60- 75% of Americans disagree with that, depending on the poll. If the argument is “Biden’s approach is popular so these Left wiong radicals are the fringe” that’s not a good argument. It isn’t true.

  104. 104.

    Chris T.

    @Jeffro:

    I suggested to them that he was more likely than not to lose his shit and launch an outburst that either landed him in contempt (and thus in jail) or outright called for violence (also landing him in jail). And from that point onward, trumpov’s poll numbers would begin a slow, inevitable slide towards the fabled 27%.

    It won’t get that low because 40% is the floor for whatever is labeled “R” on the ballot. We could have “Satan (R) vs Hayzoos (D)” and some sort of divine apparition personally commanding everyone that they vote for the guy with the Hispanic name, and yet we’d still have a 40%-R vote (70% in Utah).

    Anyway, I’m still predicting that Don Snoreleone will keel over within about two more years, but it could be much more sudden if he does overdose on uppers to prevent more Sleepy Don jokes.

  105. 105.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Kay: more to the point, as North Korea has shown, it’s the people with the guns who eat first in those situations.

  107. 107.

    Honus

    @Kay: please call him by his proper name “the bobble-throated slapdick from Arkansas” (courtesy of C. Pierce)

  108. 108.

    Betty Cracker

    @Kay: I like Fetterman, but he’s dead wrong on this. He disagrees, which is fine, but painting the majority of Americans as “the fringe” is disingenuous bullshit — and disappointing since he’s usually refreshingly candid.

  109. 109.

    Raoul Paste

    As for “Don  Snoreleone”,  it  would be wonderful if he actually did snore in court.  We can’t have it all
    But at 77, up all night posting vitriol, big bags under the eyes, it’s not surprising that he’s snoozing.  The woke“ jokes are just a bonus

  110. 110.

    Miss Bianca

    @Betty Cracker: It’s possible that Fetterman considers his “pro-Israel no matter what” stance as being “refreshingly candid.” If so, that’s depressing AF.

  111. 111.

    Tony Jay

    @Kay:

    Sullivan? Good God, has no one dragged him into an alley and kicked him into a heap of class-conscious contradictions yet?

    Such a wanker.

  112. 112.

    evodevo

    @TBone: ​
      Occurred to me: where are they gonna change them while in a courthouse for 10 hrs? The “family” restroom changing table? LOLOL

  113. 113.

    evodevo

    @Soprano2: Major reason I quit watching him 6 years ago…what an ego!  And only defends something if it’s HIS opinion, and got really snippy if the audience didn’t make like a claque immediately. Got really tired of it, no matter how engaging some of his guests were…

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