First, in the least surprising news ever, jelly-spined Nikki Haley has announced that she’s going to vote for Trump. I don’t know if that’s an official endorsement, but really, who gives a shit.
Second, whenever I write about Kristi Noem, I note that she’s not as popular as you’d think in South Dakota. Well, now we have some post-Cricket and post-Kim Jong Un polling in the state and it sure doesn’t look good for her. First, her overall favorable/unfavorable/neutral rating is 39% favorable / 48% unfavorable / 14% neutral. Her job approval rating is still 52% approval, but that’s down from 59% in a poll taken last month.
By a 59% to 38% margin, respondents believe that the killing of poor Cricket was unjustified. By a 62% to 34% margin, folks think that her response to the book fallout has hurt her credibility. Remember, this is in a blood red state where she won 62% of the vote in her last race for Governor.
This is all from a good piece in the South Dakota News Watch site, and there are a lot more results at the link, including breakdowns by party affiliation.
Baud
Mike Pence was underwater when he was tapped for Veep. Just saying.
Adam Lang
Regardless of whether you think it’s justified, the way she talked about it (she ‘hated’ the dog and wanted to see it dead, rather than being saddened etc) was just amazing.
Ivan X
I am going to move to SD to vote for her.
Chief Oshkosh
Yeah, but he had the good sense to not shoot his pet fly.
Baud
I wonder if Haley will still pull 20% in the remaining primaries.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I don’t think that 20% is about Haley. I think the 20% is a protest vote about Trump.
Doesn’t mean, however, that they won’t vote for Trump in the general. But the primary is where you get to express dissatisfaction in a way that doesn’t hurt their electability.
trnc
I just watched a segment where dumbest guy with his own CNN show Wolf Blitzer said that Biden really needed to reach out to Haley voters, and another pundit responded that Biden had run a number of ads in red states doing just that.
Someone also pointed out that Haley obviously couldn’t shiv DT if she wanted to have a future as a republican pol.
WaterGirl
If we hate Noem is that an excuse to shoot her? (Hope not.) But there’s the “he needed killing” defense in TX, so one never knows.
cain
Someone must have told Haley to make that announcement for party unity. Haley still wants to run for president – so she ain’t gonna shoot her own foot. She’ll play the good soldier. She ain’t no PUMA.
As for Kristi, she was trying hard to be VP but looks like she’s ending up fighting for her political career. Well there is always a stint at Fox News.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Yeah, who knows who’ll come out and how they’ll vote? I’ll do my part and that’s all I can do.
WaterGirl
@Baud: That’s all any of us can do.
Gvg
Every bad dog I have ever known much about had a bad owner. The pathetic description of stupid dog training resulted in what I would expect, an untrained dog. That woman has never even realized it was her fault. She should have hired an expert dog trainer for both the dog, and her as a handler. She let everyone know and didn’t even realize her ass was showing. I hope she never got a hunting dog again. Someone should look into all the family pets over the years.
Harrison Wesley
@Baud: Did he ever surface?
smith
Just today, it came out the ninth tribe in SD has banned her from their land. That makes it unanimous, and means that 20% of the state is off limits to her.
Baud
@Harrison Wesley:
Jesus lifted him up, but only to dunk him again.
Chief Oshkosh
@Gvg: Best summary of this I’ve seen.
Jackie
Too sad //
WaterGirl
@Baud: I couldn’t help myself; i fixed your typos. I can unfix if you like. :-)
Ryan
Where is the Katie Britt vote? 55-45?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I see no typoes.
Ryan
Pro-tip – 62% to 59% percent isn’t good Dan!
WaterGirl
@Jackie: What the old saying about reaping what you sow?
WaterGirl
@Baud: Ha! That’s because I fixed them!
Dangerman
So, kinda like Darryl Dawkins but, in this case, Chocolate Dunderhead.
smith
@Jackie: I’m guessing she’s using the slander about the drug cartels to give her a justification to go down to the Southern border to cosplay as a border agent. As I recall, she also strongly implied that Native Americans are bad parents. Not trying too hard for the Native vote.
schrodingers_cat
Election Update:
In my old constituency of Mumbai South, the incumbent is projected to win and BJP is going to lose. So yay me! Even if I had nothing to do with it.
For those who didn’t see this masterstroke of an ad this morning.
For example the newspaper is Amdani Times, a portamanteau of Ambani and Adani, Modi’s favorite oligarchs. Amdani also means wages in Hindi
It works well as a visual too, even if you don’t understand Hindi. Ds can make a similar ad about the Orange One.
The main takeaway is that you can burst the giant inflated balloon (Modi’s ego) with your finger (your vote). The index finger is inked in India after you vote with an indelible ink
Common man sees Modi everywhere, just like the common man blew air into the balloon, his vote can prick that balloon
Baud
@smith:
I mean, Republicans in Mississippi don’t try too hard for the black vote either. It’s a viable model.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Congratulations!
Seanly
And the Cricket killing story (booooooo to Kristi) was just another straw. She was previously under fire for some sleazy corruption stuff like trying to help her daughter get a real estate license or something equally stupid. And there was more!
Plus why did she have to go to Texas to get overly white teeth to go with her Fox News vulva lips?
Harrison Wesley
@smith: I thought the deal was Trump building a wall around tribal lands in return for getting his face on Mt. Rushmore.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Thanks! Did you see the ad? Oh and by the way the ad is not really that far away from reality in India. I saw Modi’s mug everywhere when I was in India it was ubiquitous.
I love seeing him on the ropes. Campaigning in the hot hinterland where the temp is in the 40s is taking a toll on him. He is slurring his speech, making flubs, while Rahul Gandhi and other opposition leaders are on the offensive poking fun at his flubs and his flunkies in the media.
Jackie
@cain:
It’ll be interesting to see how her supporters, who are mostly Never Trumpers, react. Will they feel betrayed? I hope so! Especially if she’s anointed TIFG’s VP winner. And that they get behind Biden and vote for him.🤞🏻
MomSense
@Adam Lang:
She included that story for one person – the malignant narcissist who hates dogs and delights in causing suffering to others.
schrodingers_cat
@Jackie: As an Indian American I find Vivek and Nikki particularly disgusting.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Beyond my 30 second attention span.
The only place I’ve been where I’ve seen ubiquitous ages of the rulers was Thailand. Although I haven’t been to India since Modi has been PM.
WaterGirl
@schrodingers_cat: That will be a relief! I assume that means the (hopefully) new guy is less authoritarian than Modi.
Jackie
@schrodingers_cat: I’m absolutely sure you do! I’m positive you’re not alone!
MomSense
@schrodingers_cat:
They are pathetic. I don’t know if I ever shared this, but the husband of my friend who died from breast cancer is a big Modi supporter. I had to just ignore him so I could be there for my friend in the months leading up to her passing.
His reasons for supporting Modi were all about “strength” and pride in being Gujarati. And it was so out of character because his views on religion were very welcoming and inclusive. He told me that religions were like driving to Portland. You can take 295 or route 1 or the turnpike. There are many routes to God.
It is hard to reconcile. I miss my friend every day. She never liked Modi and would roll her eyes behind her husband’s back.
trollhattan
My guess for Trump VP: Possum Queen.
You’re welcome.
schrodingers_cat
@WaterGirl: This is a parliamentary election, Modi is not running from Mumbai (south) my old constituency. He is running from Uttar Pradesh and I will be surprised if he loses.
You need 282 seats to form the government. The last election was very one sided (BJP won 303 IIRC seats) this one is shaping up to be a fight. Its still up in the air who will get enough seats to form the government. There are two more phases to go with about 100 seats between them.
Bill Arnold
@schrodingers_cat:
That is a very good advert.
WaterGirl
@schrodingers_cat: Ah, it originally sounded much more hopeful than that. So the “yay!” was more of a moral victory than an actual expected election victory?
schrodingers_cat
@MomSense: My guess is that your friend’s husband must be either a Brahmin or a Bania. That is the BJP base.
schrodingers_cat
@WaterGirl: I was only talking about the election in one constituency. So the yay was for Mumbai South for siding with the angels.
There are still 100 seats that have go to the polls. So we won’t know who will be get enough seats and be able to chose the PM.
India follows the Westminister model not the Presidential one.
Jackie
I’ve been offline for much of today; has this been covered?
Will this add fire to demands Alito recuse himself re “all things TIFG?” Or just yawns from the GQP?
schrodingers_cat
@Bill Arnold: It is, I really liked it.
Jay
@Gvg:
The dog was never trained. It was never old enough to be trained beyond the basics like, sit, heel, come, you pee and poop outside, fetch, how to walk on a leash and no.
At about 2 years old, dog’s have finally grown out of puppyness, teenhood, and can start being trained on the basics of being a “gun dog”. Until the dog is trained fully in the basics of hunting, which is all done with out hunting, it should never be on a hunt. The most it should be ever allowed to do until it reaches that stage, is get to sniff what ever dead critter it is being trained to hunt.
Jackie
@trollhattan:
My stealth choice, also.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Ok. I manned up and watched it. Cute.
MomSense
@schrodingers_cat:
Not a Brahmin. He comes from a farming family.
Scout211
Let’s also check in on a GOP federal judge:
More details about all the shouting at the link.
Cannon runs a tight ship, no? 🙄
WaterGirl
@Jackie: I think that news came out several days ago. The corruption is deep.
Bill Arnold
@schrodingers_cat:
My immediate department at work (in a research lab) is all Indian (including manager) except for me. I am very careful about talking about politics. (Always wise at work, regardless.) Did ask about the elections, but nobody slipped and dropped any hints.
Scout211
@Jackie: Mrs. Alito being naughty again?
Baud
@Jackie:
Flaggate!
Jay
@WaterGirl:
after sitting on the upside down American Flag/Jan 6 Insurrectionist support story for over 3 years, the FTFNYT/MSM finally published it last week. I guess the book deals are drying up.
The ChristoFacist/Jan 6 Insurrectionist/Dominionist “Evergreen” flag story just came out yesterday. It hasn’t been mentioned here.
Maybe Mrs. Alito should write a book.
Anonymous At Work
I don’t think Noem is out of the running and may in fact be ahead:
smith
“Justice” Alito blamed his wife, blamed the neighbors, but still has not disavowed the meaning of the upside down flag. A second flag, and more evidence that he is a seditionist in addition to being thoroughly corrupt. The total abadonment of even the pretense of any ethics by those on the right is breathtaking.
trollhattan
@Jackie: GMTA. She’s honestly, perfect. In the most evil sense of the word.
Manyakitty
@Scout211: god, she’s loathsome.
Quinerly
@Jackie: she’s on my list of 5 possibilities.
Quinerly
@Jackie: this flag troubles me the most. Actually…to rephrase….SCARES me the most.
Baud
Via Reddit
schrodingers_cat
@MomSense: All occupations are open to Brahmins including farming. Brahmins used to get land grants from kings etc. Some leased them out while some farmed it themselves. Modi has managed to expand the base of the party beyond the traditional Brahmin-Bania(trader) groups
Scout211
There have been news stories for months that she wanted the top NRA job, which she denied. I guess if true, she was gunning for a role larger than the one you described. She wanted the top gun porn job.
schrodingers_cat
@Bill Arnold: Were they born here? In that case they may not know or care much. Not everyone is politcal junkie like us BJers.
Jackie
@WaterGirl: This is a different flag – not the upside down American flag.
This is a white flag with a green pine tree; the Appeal to Heaven’ flag, also favored by J6 insurrectionists, and was hung last summer at Alito’s summer home.
It’s being covered by the media today as “breaking” news.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
typoes
Hahahahaha.
MagdaInBlack
@Jay: Thank you.
Jay
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx99lnn2kn4o
The “narrative” is unravelling. Previous stories had Campus Security and University “Police” MIA, and LAPD eventually responding,
Or is this an LAPD detachment seconded to UCLA?
Another Scott
@Jackie: Fritschner is asking if the blue “2022” flag is also some secret handshake.
A quick Google search isn’t showing me anything useful about it.
🤷♂️
Cheers,
Scott.
Jay
@Baud:
AKA, Colorado Mom’s for Liberty nutbag/Chairperson.
Jackie
@Manyakitty: I had to backtrack; a lot of evil women are being discussed on this thread!
Noem, Haley, Cannon, Huckabee-Sanders… and, indirectly Ms Alito.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodingers_cat:
That really is a good ad. I think it would transfer well to U.S. framing.
schrodingers_cat
@SiubhanDuinne: We have our own Orange Despot.
Jay
@Another Scott:
Which one, the BMW flag, the ones awarded to Toronto’s cleanest beaches, the Grad one,……..
Jay
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/22/alaska-rivers-turning-orange
Another Scott
@Jay: I feel dirty, but I looked at the FTFNYT story, and the picture caption.
The 2022 flag is for the Phillies NL championship.
The 3rd flag is a “Long Beach Island” flag.
Quite the trifecta there. :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
MisterForkbeard
@Scout211: The legal issues are really simple:
1. Trump took classified, secret and national security documents.
2. He stored them extremely unsafely – and his aides had and took access. And potentially others.
3. When asked for them back, unlike all other presidents and precedents, Trump refused.
4. He then returned some and lied about returning all of them.
5. Trump took action to hide the remaining documents from the feds including having his aides avoid security cameras
6. Trump continued to lie about the documents.
7. His hotel was investigated after it was clear he was lying. They found MANY documents, some extremely sensitive
8. Four months later, Trump’s attorneys turned over four additional sensitive docs that they found hidden in his bedroom.
9. Trump has had five different legal excuses, none of which hold up to slightest scrutiny
1-6 are all crimes. 8 also shows that he committed a further crime. It’s not complicated at all, unless you’re Trump’s handpicked local judge.
jackmac
Quote of the day from my great Gov. J.B. Pritzker, speaking at a DNC media walk through at Chicago’s United Center:
“Age isn’t what distinguishes these two candidates from one another,” Pritzker said. “Donald Trump was stupid and ignorant long before he got old.”
Jay
@MisterForkbeard:
#10, 4 Top Secret documents were uploaded to a TIFG PAC’s unsecured laptop.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Chief Oshkosh:
The fly landed on Pence because the fly knows what shit smells like, even when it’s wearing aftershave.
Bupalos
Haley is a political weathervane. She was saving “antiTrump” as a potential asset. And she’s not a person, she has a whole establishment around her with people smarter than she is. They made an assessment.
Which means this is really VERY bad news.
Also Europe pretty much unanimously expects Trump. I mean they’re using “when” rather than “if.” And then only later adding something about “hopefully that might not happen.”
We’re out on an island here y’all. We can win but it’s time to recognize we’re down 15 points in the 3rd quarter.
schrodingers_cat
@Bupalos:
What do you base this on.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Baud:
Nore do I.
Baud
@Bupalos:
I like my island. The rest of the world can burn.
Bupalos
@MisterForkbeard: I hear ya! You’re saying “Trump is not politics as usual!!!”
Spanky
@Jay: Maybe “catch and kill” Pecker has decided to release a few into the wild.
Bupalos
=@schrodingers_cat:
Mostly question time at conferences about the ukraine conflict with various heads of baltic states and speakers like Timothy Snyder. It could be partially due to the betrayal on Ukraine aid, but… I mean… not stupid or unconcerned people. And people with some distance.
I think it’s true. If Trump is polling even or better right now given everything everyone knows… he’s more likely than not to win. It’s unlikely there’s some big change coming because of a political campaign. Or that “people forgot what Trump is like.” I mean, I still hope that’s true….it feels like it should be true…but I also know when someone more removed than me is more likely to have the right angle.
Bupalos
@Baud: Whoops turns out the island is metaphorical and you’re actually not insulated from fire.
Sorry to say.
Geminid
@Bupalos: Yes, Nikki Haley is a weather vane. And she’s telling us which way the wind is blowing on top of her own roof.
Baud
@Bupalos:
I’m pretty insulated. Not perfectly, but I’m unlikely to be personally affected by Trump. Feel sorry for his likely victims, but that’s life.
The good news is that you have 8 months to emotionally prepare yourself for what’s coming.
MisterForkbeard
@Jay: I think I might include that in the “his aides had and took access”, but it’s a good, explicit callout.
Baud
@Geminid:
When has she ever been wrong?
Ironcity
@WaterGirl: But she is in SD, not TX unless we can tell har about a gravel pit full of puppies there.
schrodingers_cat
@Bupalos: I disagree with your analysis, polls in May are not predictive of elections in November.
I also find our explanation of Europeans expectations unsatisfactory. You are always down on Democratic chances IIRC. Anyway thanks for your answer.
Manyakitty
@Jackie: indeed. Seems like they just keep pumping them out.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: We are going to win. Our nominee has not been indicted in multiple criminal trials. We are winning special elections. Polls this far out are predictive of nothing. Don’t listen to known doomers.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
I don’t pay attention to polls. Not winning is a realistic possibility, and I’m not going to waste time arguing over how likely or unlikely that is.
Melancholy Jaques
@Bupalos:
It is not the 3rd Q and we are not down 15. It’s near the end of May and we are more or less tied.
Do people really think Trump is more popular now than he was in 2020?
Riffing off Edward R Murrow. Remember that we are not descended from fearful people. We can and will win this election because we all know it’s what we need to do.
Baud
Via reddit
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: It has non zero probability, yes. But right now I want to focus my energies on how Ds can win at every level.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Agreed. Me too.
WaterGirl
@Jackie: Yikes. How many flag scandals in the SC can there be in one month?
Jay
@WaterGirl:
Depends on how many MSM hacks were hanging on to the scandals for years for their book deal,
only to be back footed.
BRyan
I keep looking for an explanation on why the story about the upside-down US flag at Alito’s house is just coming out now, three years after the fact. Did I miss it? Surely the NYT explained?
Jay
@BRyan:
ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,
gasp,………
ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,
gasp,………
Jackie
@BRyan: I “think” the neighbor who took the pictures only contacted the NYT recently. Why now, and not at the time? Fear of retribution? 🤷🏼♀️
Jay
@Jackie:
FTFNYT has never said when they got the pictures and there is no comment from the neighbor, what so ever, or Mrs. Alito,
just a comment from Bishop Opus Dei underbussing his wife and making up a weak assed story trying to claim it wasn’t at all about Jan. 6th.
The “Evergreen Flag” puts paid to that.
As it is the FTFNYT, given their past and current record, (Habs, Miller, etc),
the book deal was cancelled.
p.a.
Well I mean Noem is a farmer, that’s how farmers do things. We all know how difficult it is for farmers to secure a vet’s services when needed, if an animal needs to be humanely put down. Or maybe she’s made animal abortions illegal too so veterinarians really are in short supply.
p.a.
Who gave Alito his “88” tattoo? It would be irresponsible not to ask.
CaseyL
OK, I did it: I cancelled my WaPo subscription. Hiring a Murdochite as its CEO was bad enough; finding out they intend to go full bore into AI content crossed the red line for me.
If anyone is interested, this is what I wrote to them to tell them why I was cancelling:
I did get an email back saying my email would be forwarded to management. Well, maybe; but I don’t expect to hear back from them.
Brachiator
@trnc:
Seems like a good idea. And do some private polling to see what might work.
Jay
@Brachiator:
Hailey voters in primaries consist of 3 different types of people.
Democratic voters taking advantage of “crossover votes”.
“Pretend Libertarians”
https://nitter.poast.org/P_Kallioniemi/status/1793260571212517846#m
And ReThugs.
When push comes to shove, the ReThugs will vote a straight R ticket, TIFG or no TFIG, jail or no jail, dead or not dead.
The “Pretend” Libertarians, ditto,
The “Real” Libertarians will either vote Kennedy, or spend the day stoned and drinking beer and not vote.
Pretty sure Biden has the Democratic “Hailey” voters in pocket.
Jackie
@Jay: You left out #4: Never Trumpers. I don’t think that faction of Haley supporters will vote for TIFG. And, I assume are feeling betrayed by Haley’s admission she’ll vote for TIFG. Those Never Trumpers aren’t going to support her in the future should she set her sights in ‘28.
Matt McIrvin
@Jay: Reason magazine loves running articles about how voting is irrational actually. I wonder why the Libertarian Party candidate never gets any traction.
evodevo
@Baud:
Well, she didn’t do as well in the KY primary as in other states…only 6+% here, vs 85% for Trumpy. but then KY is a MAGA state to the hilt (outside Louisville and Lexington)
Jackie
Things you can’t make up:
Scout211
IANAL but this seems like he listened to his attorneys’ advice. He is trying to make it seem like he’s a victim but that sentence is very telling.
Scout211
Interesting news from Law Dork
Jay
@Jackie:
The few “actual” never Trumpers will vote a solid R down ticket.
Most of the supposed “Never Trumpers”, like Hailey, will vote for TFIG.
Even Cheney won’t vote for Biden.
Jackie
@Jay: I disagree. Anti MAGA voters won’t vote for MAGA candidates. They will sit out the election.
Cheney is pushing voters to vote for Biden. She’s willing to vote anti MAGA in ‘24, hoping that ‘28 will be “back to normal” for traditional republicans.
ETA: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4665925-donald-trump-joe-biden-adam-kinzinger-liz-cheney-mitt-romney-mark-esper-paul-ryan-endorsement/amp/
Jay
@Jackie:
We will see.
We have seen no shortage of anti-TFIG’s when pushed, say he will be the end of democracy,
but will still vote for TFIG.
MinuteMan
Maybe there’ll be a dark horse Veep: Robert Costello after his tour de force on the stand; the rump of the ticket liked it.
Jackie
@Jay: I doubt that, too. Those who after years/months have openly dissed Trump and all he’s done to hurt our country, our democracy, then suddenly out of the blue say they’ll vote for him… I personally think they’re afraid of revenge, and are publicly changing their tune to stay on Trump’s good side, but privately won’t actually vote for TIFG.
We’ll find out come Nov 5th.
Ksmiami
Fight for every vote. The Republican Party offers nothing
Jay
@Jackie:
We probably won’t find out. The public “Never Trumper’s” are a tiny minority, and the vote is “secret”.
marching marching to shibboleth
Testing. Testing. Is this thing on?
WaterGirl
@marching marching to shibboleth: The first comment a person makes has to be manually approved. I just approved your comment, so your future comments will show up for everyone right away.
KenK
@Baud: But he wasn’t underwater for long enough.