When last we left our intrepid heroes they were attempting to impeach, post facto, the credibility of Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward. In our most recent installment, however, Ammon Bundy’s attorney has decided that what this trial needs is more references to the late LaVoy Finicum! Maxine Berstein, doing yeoman’s (yeowoman? yeoperson?) at The Oregonian, has the details:
U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown on Thursday threatened to hold Ammon Bundy’s lawyer in contempt of court each time he defies her order and tries to delve into the circumstances surrounding the officer-involved fatal shooting of refuge occupation spokesman Robert “LaVoy” Finicum during trial.
The judge told attorney Marcus Mumford that she’d fine him $1,000 each time he raises the issue in front of jurors in the federal conspiracy trial of Bundy and six others stemming from the 41-day takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
“I have ruled on this issue and it appears to me you disregard it,” Brown told Mumford after excusing the jury for a morning restroom break.
“Do you understand what I’m saying … yes or no?” the judge asked Mumford as he was about to explain. She cut him off, requesting a simple answer, just as he’s done to witnesses on the stand.
“I don’t understand. Your honor says I’m asking improper questions?” Mumford said.
The judge pointed to Mumford’s questioning of rancher Andy Dunbar, whose property is adjacent to the eastern Oregon refuge, about what he learned on Jan. 26 about the fatal shooting of Finicum.
“You are not to do that,” Brown said.
“You’re telling me I’m allowed to inquire about the shooting, but not the circumstances of the shooting?” Mumford asked.
Brown reminded him: Anything about Finicum’s shooting death, beyond that it occurred and the date, isn’t allowed to be discussed in front of jurors.
“I can understand the words,” Mumford told her.
“I hope you can comply,” the judge said.
The admonition followed days of directions by the judge to Mumford about restricting his questions during cross-examination to the testimony elicited during prosecutors’ direct examination of witnesses. She has frequently sustained prosecutors’ objections to Mumford’s lines of questioning because they were either irrelevant or “beyond the scope” of the direct testimony during the past two weeks of trial.
The judge instructed Mumford and all other attorneys to take any concerns up with her outside the presence of the jury if they want to ask questions that go beyond her order.
Tune back in on Monday for our next installment of How the Snack Team Digests. Same Bundy time, same Bundy station!
Steve in the ATL
Really stupid people have really stupid lawyer.
The math checks out.
Omnes Omnibus
I am dying here. He’s like an evil Lionel Hutz.
redshirt
TPM! CNN! FOX!
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: I figured that would get you giggling.
Villago Delenda Est
I’m thinking Mumford needs a spanking. With no oral sex afterwards.
geg6
These clowns have the clowniest lawyer ever. I just love this shit. Comedy gold, these guys.
LAO
A retired lawyer, who is attending the trial, has been posting her impressions at fogbow. She’s amazingly insightful.
Omnes Omnibus
Huh? I mean… What the? I’ll be in the bar.
LAO
@Omnes Omnibus: apparently, he is the world’s worst cross examiner, a skill that is required to be an adequate defense attorney.
p.a.
Don’t follow this, but is the lawyer a true believer or just playing to his clients’ dumb beliefs?
Felonius Monk
Snack Team Six — THE EXECUTION
JPL
Adam, What did you think about Michael Isikoff’s article at yahoo about Carter Page? If it is true, what charges should he face? link
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Hey, Lionel Hutz knew when to quit.
opiejeanne
@Omnes Omnibus: I don’t know who Lionel is, but that line sounds like he’s still disrespecting the judge.
She warned Mumford that each and every instance disallowed reference to Tinicum’s death would cost him $1000. Then she warned both sides, but the prosecution isn’t likely to bring it up.
opiejeanne
@p.a.: True believer. That’s part of why he’s so obtuse. Also, stupid.
Mnemosyne
Also, I’m still pretty sure this guy’s name is not Marcus Mumford. At a minimum, it ain’t what his parents named him.
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne: Thanks. I didn’t know that character or reference.
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: I’ve seen it and other reporting about his reporting. I’m not a lawyer, but depending on what the Counter-Intelligence investigation turns up it could be one of the first righteous prosecutions under the Espionage Act, but this may be a stretch. There may also be a treason charge in there, though given we’re not officially at war with Russia (regardless of what Putin may think and say), that is probably harder. There’s also probably several laws in regard to private citizens trying to carry on foreign policy. You’ll need to check with the resident lawyers here. The bigger issue is going to be is where the CI investigation leads in terms of whether they turn up Page acting of his own accord or if this is more tightly tied to the campaign. My guess is it would almost have to be the latter, but proving it, especially if Page is willing to take the fall, will be difficult.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: I was thinking of this iconic scene.
Mnemosyne
@opiejeanne:
Voiced by the late, great Phil Hartman, they had to drop the character from the show after his murder. ?
opiejeanne
@efgoldman: He’s been skating on thin ice, hinting to the jury, suggesting jury nullification. He made a speech today that included some phrases the ‘Bundy Bunch hold dear as a “get out of jail’ card.
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne: I loved Phil Hartmann. His death was tragic.
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: Hopefully, Hillary addresses it on Monday night. Trump turned down an invite to meet with the President of Ukraine, also.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
So many to choose from.
Major Major Major Major
“Mister Hutz, do you have any ACTUAL evidence?”
“We have lots of hearsay and conjecture, those are KINDS of evidence…”
Steeplejack
@Mnemosyne:
Bobby Troup alert on Perry Mason Monday night (11:30 p.m. EDT on MeTV). Pretty good episode: “The Case of the Jaded Joker” (1959). Frankie Laine as a Sid Caesar-like TV comedian, Troup as the stoner beatnik in his entourage. Also Martha Vickers (Carmen Sternwood from The Big Sleep).
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: Ultra-devout, ultra-Zionist Jewish settlers. Mostly originally from NY, NJ, and Miami. A lot of them maintain dual citizenship. The hope among the Trump campaign seems to be that he can get them all to submit absentee ballots and that they’ll all vote for him if they do.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: You got it in the right one.
Dmbeaster
The lawyer is purposefully skewing the case political for whatever benefits may accrue, including making his clients happy. But the home run is juror nullification. This kind of intentional obfuscation has a long history in trials. One of my favorite examples is the Manson lawyer who objected to everything, including a question asking a witness when they were born based on hearsay.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: You are making that up.
Villago Delenda Est
@efgoldman: He.Is.Not.Sane.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: No! Money down!
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: well, if that’s his plan for winning Florida then I’m a little more optimistic about Hillary’s chances.
p.a.
The primary mental image I’m getting for Trump, the Bundys (damnit Peg!), and now the lawyer is Richard Mulligan in Soap, snapping his fingers beside his head, claiming “I’m invisible!”
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: 1) Hope is not a strategy and 2) I never said it was smart and/or logical.
p.a.
@Major Major Major Major: @efgoldman:
offices in (((Israel))). Donnie boldly challenging his base I guess.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: I’ll head back to the bar.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Huh, no, that couldn’t possibly be, I mean, I can’t even.
Major Major Major Major
@p.a.: and what’s his angle? Hillary is insufficiently pro-Israel? Because that’s risible. I mean, he hates Muslims sure but does that really sell there?
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
@efgoldman:
hovercraft
@efgoldman:
It’s an open thread.
He put it there to show his eleventy billion support for Israel, remember he also told AIPAC that he would move the American embassy to an undivided Israeli capital of Jerusalem. He wants to strengthen all those relationships in the Middle East that were frayed by the non enforcement of the “red line”, and this is his first step. It will also go over real well with our European allies. Do you think he knows that most muslims aren’t A-rabs? As much as most muslims are pro two state solution, they are much more adamant about the fate of the al Aqsa mosque. Strange how it almost seems like he knows nothing about anything that doesn’t involve Donald Trump.
Frankensteinbeck
@hovercraft:
American Jews, especially the hardcore Zionists, are intensely aware that Trump hangs with neo-Nazis, and the reports I have heard is that even before they found out, their response to his rhetoric was ‘We’ll be next.’ It will be interesting to see how that vote breaks down.
p.a.
@efgoldman: a series that has, FSM knows why, fallen into the memory hole.
hovercraft
@efgoldman:
I read it in the WaPost a couple of days ago. So yes it’s for real. The events of the last few days just overtook everything, so it got lost.
Steve in the ATL
@LAO:
Damn you, LAO–just when I was off the Bundy crack, you get me right back on it! Hope the wife wasn’t hoping to see me tonight.
Adam L Silverman
@Frankensteinbeck: I had to get my Mom a subscription to Jewish Preppers Monthly. She’s been canning away. Unfortunately we now have a ten year supply of kosher dill pickles because its the only prepper recipe with “kosher” in the name… And matzoh…
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
A snifter of vanilla brandy sounds good about now.
:: self-deports to other end of bar ::
sukabi
@Omnes Omnibus: he can understand each individual word, but dollars to donuts on Monday he’ll be fined at least once for failure to comply.
Redshift
@Adam L Silverman: Or it’s some kind of bank shot to try to appeal to big-money Jewish Republicans who have been turned off by Trump’s appeal to anti-Semites and white nationalists.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: ::shudder::
Actually, I am saving it to add to coffee when the weather is colder.
LAO
@Steve in the ATL: Small doses only Steve, it’s pure, unadulterated crack.
Adam L Silverman
@Redshift: Its both. They’ve probably told him there are votes among Israelis who have dual citizenship, especially the settlers. So he kills two birds: he follows there advice, which makes them happy, which gets him money and he figures he picks up some votes from those living in the settlements in the West Bank.
hovercraft
@Frankensteinbeck:
Like every republican since 9/11 he thinks being ‘tough on terrorism’ will win them the Jewish vote. What they don’t seem to realize is that as Bibi and his merry band of RWNJ’s have moved sharply to the right, American jews have not, they are as pro Israel as ever, but they don not support the governments hard right turn. Jay Street has actually gained a foothold in DC, our politicians are for the most part still in the thrall of AIPAC, but Bibi’s stunt last year has hurt them. He will not win the Jewish vote, and won’t come close. The neo nazi stuff will not help him.
Steve in the ATL
@SiubhanDuinne:
You don’t get sophisticated, insightful debates like this at Red State!
Redshift
I have to say, the Bundys are disappointing me. Sure, they’re ridiculous, but I was hoping they’d be funnier.
opiejeanne
@efgoldman: 200,000 US citizens live in Israel?
Never mind. Adam was quick.
sukabi
@JPL: what I wouldn’t give to see one of drumpfs crew get (senor)frog marched to jail before the election…. would be worth all the angst this election season is causing.
Steve in the ATL
@LAO: Duly noted. What’s up with your hearing in Atlanta?
hovercraft
@Adam L Silverman:
In response to Trump or because of the neo Nazi’s?
p.a.
@Redshift: Shelly? Is he in on Don anyway? Others I don’t know, low profile compared to Adelson I guess. Norm P and Always Wrong aren’t big $ guys, and how many votes can their reversal bring…
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
I think I can say, without fear of contradiction: OY!
LAO
@Steve in the ATL: first week of December. (Until one of my asshole co-counsel objects). Circuit has assigned an exact date, just a “week of” date.
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman: Isn’t he a tax lawyer? I don’t think that really counts.
Kidding, OO! I deduce from your excellent taste in music that you are a highly skilled practitioner of the law.
LAO
@Redshift: just wait till Wednesday, when they start testifying.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Technically, according to my ‘resume’ on Twitter, ” I’m just a hack lawyer who drinks too much and falls in love with girls.”
@Steve in the ATL:
With the mad reasoning skilz you just flashed, I have to say you must be pretty good yourself.
SiubhanDuinne
@Steve in the ATL:
Steeplejack
@efgoldman:
Five-episode block on Logo every weekday morning.
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman: D’oh! Please strike my comment from the record. Does explain a lot about Burnsie though….
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: Great, but I don’t think surviving off of them while fending of the alt-right hordes of the Trumpacolypse is a smart dietary choice.
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: All of them Katie.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: exactly
Another Scott
@Adam L Silverman: He’s got yooge plans for TrumpWorld at the Temple Mount. 13 star hotel, golf course designed by Jack Nicklaus, casino with world’s largest roulette wheels, it’ll be great. Bigly. He’ll put up $50k and the rest will be financed by DeutscheBank.
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
(Formerly I’mNotSure…)
p.a.
@SiubhanDuinne: What’s the half-life on an unopened bottle of gefilte fish!
Adam L Silverman
@Another Scott: Hmmm…
Adam L Silverman
@p.a.: African gefilte fish or European gefilte fish?
NotMax
Reminder for TCM this weekend of a film a cut above the norm (for 1950).
Caged, at 6:30 a.m. Saturday. Women in prison! Intimidating Hope Emerson (all 6’2″ and 230 pounds of her) and Gertrude Hoffman as an aged, hardbitten lifer are standouts.
@Adam L. Silverman
Feel free to send as many as you care to this way. One grandmother made, hands down, the best garlic dill pickles in the known universe. Asked her several times for her recipe, which she adamantly refused to share. “It’ll die with me.” And it did. Also too, scrumptious sauerkraut.
Felonius Monk
@Omnes Omnibus:
I hope eye for girls is better than your selection of alcohol. Vanilla Brandy, indeed. :-)
JPL
@hovercraft: The neo nazi stuff will not help him. Tell Trump’s sons that.
p.a.
@Another Scott: Wailing Wall… big downer… work with me here… better lighting… juice bar- geddit? Think Blarney Stone- move the people through, faster turnover… positive vibes… donation spot, more trees for Israel, orphans, you know… who owns the current rights???
opiejeanne
@LAO: I was glued to the internet for weeks while the refuge was occupied by these bums. So much of it was infuriating, so much was hilarious, that it was hard to look away. I’m so glad that other people are covering the trial for us because it felt like it happened in our backyard, almost.
Omnes Omnibus
@Felonius Monk: You just made the list.
hovercraft
@Another Scott:
That would result in the first ever Mosad, Hezbollah, ISIS, joint assassination plot, hell the Christians would be in on it too. Then he would really be able to boast of his greatness, he would be remembered as the president who solved the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
hovercraft
Ap pro pos of nothing my esteemed governor has transcended the magic number of 27%, Chris Christie has an approval rating of 23%. Behold one of the most ‘talented republicans in the country.’
Another Scott
@p.a.:
Donnie will have that wall fixed up in no time at all, and under budget. Nobody knows how to build walls like Donnie.
Plus, what with all the crumbling infrastructure and the place being “rife with crime”, it’ll be the perfect venue for Donnie to show how he would fix American cities. Just pave the place over, get rid of all the crumbing infrastructure that hasn’t been cared for in the last 2000 years, give tax breaks so the right people will come in and show the locals how it’s done – what’s not to like?
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman:
Poor kid never had a chance
NotMax
@p.a.
In Trumpworld, Wailing Wall is a ready-made surface for advertising posters. Also a reverse-Automat set-up, where money is inserted to open the little door, allowing insertion of the slip of paper with a prayer.
narya
I went to Oberlin (a long time ago). Their sports teams were/are the Yeomen. When I was there, the women’s teams referred to themselves as the Yeomamas.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: Somehow I’m picturing him rolling his eyes and pooching out his lips like a sulky teenager.
Seriously, can a lawyer act so egregiously badly in a courtroom that s/he is liable to being bounced by the judge?
Adam L Silverman
@narya: yeowoman sounds to my ear, when said aloud, as a bad way to try to get a woman’s attention: “yo woman!”
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Unlikely.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Jewish Preppers Monthly? Man, I haven’t seen that one in the library around here…
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: I’m pretty sure M4’s diagnostic tool will list that comment as negative instead of sarcasm.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: So he just gets to act like an ass and waste everyone’s time? Nice work if you can get it.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: I’m laughing even tho’ I’m not really sure I see how anyone could take my little remark as anything but a SINCERE desire for information!
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Yeah, I have been wondering how the thing handles sarcasm. Not to mention all the other tricks: dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes, and satire.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Contempt citations at a grand a pop?
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: It didn’t sound to me like it made that much of an impression on him. But I’ve been proven to be wrong on a couple occasions now and then…
Felonius Monk
@Omnes Omnibus:
I am an old man. I’m happy as hell to be on someone’s list.
Miss Bianca
@narya: That’s better than “the Lady Yeomen.” Which is what they’d be around here.
I love “The Lady Spartans.” But my favorite girls’ team hereabouts is definitely “The Lady Pirates.”
Shana
@Adam L Silverman: You can can matzo?
@p.a.: “Always Wrong” gave a fair amount to his (our) synagogue.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: I meant my comment about getting my Mom a subscription to a fictional niche periodical.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: don’t forget the bon mots!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@LAO: From what little I’ve read he does seem to the the world’s worst (or at least in the US) at cross. And adequate would be an overstatement of his trial skills – at either table.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: Actually female Spartiates (Spartan citizens) were referred to as butt thumpers. Its derived from part of the mandated physical training regimen for female Spartiates dictated by the Lycurgun Code. This specific exercise was done by jumping up and bouncing one’s heels off of one buttocks.
Adam L Silverman
@Shana: You don’t have to can it, that stuff will fight with the mutant cockroaches and mutant twinkies for control over the world after the nuclear/zombie/pandemic/insert name of nightmare here apocalypse.
Shana
Not to mention what it does to the digestive system after a week….
Good night all.
BTW, Great Performances Hamilton’s America airs on October 21st. It’s actually on my calendar, which I never do for TV shows. Too far out to set the DVR so I need a different method to remember it. Can’t wait!
divF
@Omnes Omnibus: Not to mention metonymy and synecdoche.
debbie
@efgoldman:
There are about 200,000 Americans living in Israel who can vote here. I believe I heard he’s got like 70% of the vote.
ETA: Palestinian rental rates are cheaper, I’d bet.
sukabi
@hovercraft: possible impeachment for him as well..that ought to drive his # down further…
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: You know, you and O2 have this amazing talent for spinning pure bullshit in a way that make it look like cotton candy. : )
btw, I did see your response in that other thread. Thanks!
chopper
I move for a bad court…thingy.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: Its a gift…
And you’re quite welcome. I went back and checked after dinner and saw that you saw.
ETA: In all seriousness the Mominator is quite concerned.
redshirt
@chopper: “The most blatant case of fraudulent advertising since my suit against the film The Never Ending Story”.
debbie
@efgoldman:
There’s an old saying somewhere about the richest men being the biggest cheapskates.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: In all seriousness, I can’t blame her.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Miss Bianca: I once traveled on the same flight as a high school girls volleyball team with the unfortunate name, “the Beavers.”
Miss Bianca
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: How do you cheer on “The Beavers”? “Go, Beavers – chew ’em up!”?
I better stop now.
burnspbesq
@Steve in the ATL:
That would be me. I think Omnes is an ALJ.
Omnes Omnibus
@burnspbesq: Was. Fuck Scott Walker.
sukabi
Adam, I L.O.V.E that you’ve dubbed the Bundy Bunch Snack Team Six… but a small quibble / suggestion for their official shield… pretty sure these dumbos wouldn’t know what the pie server is or how to use one. Also, knowing what they received in response to their pleas for snacks and their reactions to those “gifts” I propose changing out the pie server for a pair of crossed dildos.
Adam L Silverman
@sukabi: I understand your concerns. I originally considered putting a banana split in one of the spaces. Or Cookie Monster. Or both. I mucked about for well over an hour when I made it.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Fuck him up his stupid ass.
Lurking Canadian
I am actually tempted to sympathy for the Bundys’ lawyer. These guys are guilty. Everybody knows they’re guilty. They fuckin’ BRAGGED about the crimes they were committing while they were committing them. The prosecution could use the defendants’ YouTube channe as their entire case.
So, of course their lawyer is throwing mud against the judge hoping some will stick. What options does he have?
Omnes Omnibus
@Lurking Canadian:
He could be professional. Sometimes one has a loser of a case and a client who wants to go to trial. You go in and take your beating.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: Speaking of clowns…
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: There’s never just one clown. You’ve seen their cars.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus:
Are you describing my career?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: Exactly. Except professional seems to be slightly beyond his skill set.
@Steve in the ATL: That’s not very nice.
Adam L Silverman
@Steve in the ATL: They finally got one!
Steve in the ATL
@Lurking Canadian:
The lawyer is also a true believer sov cit nutjob, so save your sympathy for a more deserving group…like Canadian NHL teams.
Zing!
Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: Yeah they got one, but as Omnes pointed out….
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: I’ve had them too. Client in a pro-bono consumer law case is on the stand. Hours of prep to establish the difference between a deposit (which we were arguing that she had made) and a down payment (which the other side was arguing). Asked about the payment by opposing counsel, she blurts out “It was a down payment.” I had three more hours of trial even though the case was over at that point.
sukabi
@Lurking Canadian: not being their lawyer for one, he’s not court appointed is he?
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: painful! I had an appointed criminal case where my client and I went to the DA’s office to watch the security camera video. I told my client not to say anything. As soon as the video started, he pointed at it and said “hey, that’s me!”
But at least that wasn’t mid-trial.
Omnes Omnibus
@sukabi: He is a true believer. That does not obviate his obligation to do his job properly.
LAO
@Steve in the ATL: lol. That has never happened to me. But I kind of wish it had.
Steve in the ATL
@LAO: at that point, you can’t be blamed for anything that goes wrong in the case!
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Even worse, opposing counsel came to me with a decent settlement offer while the jury was out and my client rejected it.
redshirt
It’s lawyers all the way down.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Do you have a problem with that? Think before you answer.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Not at all.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Good answer.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: A litigious people are a non violent people….
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: The vikings’ use of weregild (law stuff) helped to minimize violence within viking society. Doesn’t mean that the vikings weren’t as violent as fuck.
Ruckus
@debbie:
Supposedly a wealthy great uncle told my dad, when he was starting his business, that no one gets there using their own money. Now I never met this supposedly wealthy great uncle, who supposedly owned a bunch of property in Beverly Hills in my life so it may just be a family story. But dad and I both used our own money in our businesses and we didn’t get anywhere within thousands of miles of wealthy, so there you go. Trump may have heard this story and he just doesn’t understand that you “borrow” the money, you don’t steal it. He is rather dumb it seems.
oz29
@Omnes Omnibus: I suspect he is auditioning for a spot as the Go-to Guy for SovCits with high-profile legal issues. I don’t know if he is bad at cross because I’ve never seen him. I have been appointed to represent fools like these, though. They constantly demand that their attorney do things that would violate the rules, then complain that their lawyer “won’t represent them” when the lawyer refuses. Mumford isn’t doing that. He’s hitting all the sweet spots for them.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
LOL.
Ruckus
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
Not a lawyer but I did help a neighbor/friend study for the CA bar once upon a long time ago. Though even without that experience I recognize polite lawyerly BS when I see it so I’m going to take exception to the use of the word slightly.
Chris Landee
The correct language is “a person of yeo.”