Remember. #Debate pic.twitter.com/rlMbTt5WwY
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 10, 2016
Make America Sniff Again.
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) October 10, 2016
Trump’s making an ass of himself in every possible way. Clinton’s looking good, IMO.
First question was on keeping this debate “family-friendly.” Hillary said that would be a good idea, because improving America for families was the first goal of her presidency; Donald said that Hillary’s people started the dirty talk, and also, ISIS is doing far worse things. Seems like that’s setting the mood for the evening.
Also, if there are any legitimate ‘undecided’ voters out there, some of them are gonna say to themselves “Can I spend four years listening to this sweaty guy sniff and snuffle and switch topics like a sugar-hyped toddler?”
ETA: Former RNC Chair Michael Steele’s tweetstream is a hoot, right now. How many ways can one man say I TOLD YOU THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN WHEN YOU DUMPED ME, DUMFVCKS!
ETAA: When asked about Syria, Donald Trump disagrees with his running mate — he reiterated that twice, because the mods couldn’t believe it either — and then talked about his ‘great admiration’ for Assad, ‘because he’s fighting ISIS.’
Baud
Only one qualified candidate.
PsiFighter37
Donald getting a question on his Muslim ban…going to step on it.
schrodinger's cat
Why is he stalking her?
piratedan
if any of you were playing on your wingnut bingo card, remember, we’re using the coverall game, so don’t lose heart!
PsiFighter37
And he just said Khan would be alive because he opposed Iraq…what an idiot.
Adam L Silverman
@schrodinger’s cat: Cause he’s a creep.
dmsilev
Now being asked whether or not the Muslim ban still stands. His response is incoherent by Sarah Palin’s standards.
Betty Cracker
@schrodinger’s cat: He’s Lazio-ing!
amk
extreme vetting – drink
why didn’t you interrupt her? fucking whiner.
Chyron HR
You guys are all missing the point! It’s about freaking out HRC!
debit
Him pointing at Hillary and calling her “her!” as a pejorative is really going to go over well with women.
Mary G
He said if he had been president, Captain Khan would not be dead. She got really angry for a second.
amk
@schrodinger’s cat: yup, the pseudo macho intimidation.
lamh36
wuzzat
Trump’s losing the base, and this isn’t going to get them back. My “drank the Fox News koolaid years ago and have a signed Sarah Palin pic” grandparents are voting for Johnson. I sincerely doubt they’re the only ones in their social circle who will do so. When the Republican is losing the rural, white octogenarians, they’re losing. Period.
trollhattan
Hilz needs a fungo bat.
No values, no love for the country.
some guy
Creepy Clown is a dumpster fire tonight. Raddatz and Cooper are haaving a hard time keeping him on topic.
schrodinger's cat
@Adam L Silverman: She has nerves of steel. I would be sputtering with rage if I were her.
WaterGirl
@debit: I had the same thought. Remember when McCain pointed to Obama on a town hall stage and referred to Obama as something like “this guy” or “that guy”?
Emerald
Oooooo, she’s baiting him with the Russian attacks!
chopper
every time I see trump start to talk I have to leave the room. I hate him so much.
trollhattan
@debit:
Reminiscent of Walnuts calling Obama “that one.”
piratedan
and Trump should do himself a favor by sitting his ass down
Chyron HR
@WaterGirl:
THAT ONE
dmsilev
Christ, what a baby.
amk
he is lying on iraq war. hit him with it.
Corner Stone
The moderators are once again, just garbage.
Mary G
Now he’s arguing with the mods and interrupting.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Sliding in the “Russian” shiv, and twisting, twisting….
Adam L Silverman
Here’s what Michael Steele thinks is going on:
https://twitter.com/MichaelSteele/status/785290342807379968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Corner Stone
I am going to move on those immigrants heavily.
rikyrah
@WaterGirl:
It was THAT ONE
dmsilev
We’re only halfway through, and clearly the tranquilizers his campaign drugged him with at the beginning have worn off.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: She did.
piratedan
well, I thought we were getting a town hall and a Donald Trump greatest hits stump speech broke out
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: That’s what I was thinking of, but I didn’t get the phrase right. But I flashed to that moment as soon as Donald said that. I imagine we are not alone.
satby
@WaterGirl: He called Obama “that one”.
hovercraft
Wahhh, but she got an extra 25 seconds wahh
debit
God, he’s like a little kid. “She’s so bad!!”
trollhattan
Thirty thousand emails and now she steals 25 seconds! Clinton Rules.
Timurid
Drugs at a record clip? You should know, Donald…
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: He built this with his, “yeah, but Hillary” bullshit.
gene108
@some guy:
They are trying to keep him in-line. They are not letting him go totally off.
MomSense
@WaterGirl:
I think I have an “I’m voting for that one” tee shirt somewhere.
piratedan
out of all of the fucking online questions to pick, they chose that one.
Miss Bianca
@WaterGirl: “That One”. I remember it well.
amk
wikileaks – really martha?
Vhh
@WaterGirl: “that one” eve more offensive almost “boy”.
BillinGlendaleCA
This is the first time that my wife had seen “sniffles”, she said ‘what’s wrong with that guy?’.
Anoniminous
Republican operators and politicians across the width and breadth of this great nation are drinking strychnine, straight-up, no chaser. Trump is a catastrophe.
lamh36
does anyone really believe these questioners are undecided?
Soylent Green
Quelle surprise, Republican framing on all the questions.
CZanne
Projection! I now have GREAT footage for Psych 101 students.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Corner Stone: like a bitch.
@dmsilev: Shoulda gone with a longer acting benzo…
Omnes Omnibus
So I am watching this during breaks in Packer game. Is he really as bad as he seems?
Baud
This is the worst town hall. It’s all moderators, nothing from real people.
PsiFighter37
Now on to Clinton’s speeches…glad that we’re addressing real issues.
Now Clinton is giving an explanation on her selective email release.
Corner Stone
LINCOLN!
WereBear
I am imagining what the Republican pols and operatives are thinking.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Chyron HR:
Happily, Hillary is unfreakoutable.
debit
Lost my ability to edit. He’s swaying again.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
Am I the only one worrying if he’s going to get physical at some point during this?
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Hellfire. Well, when you’ve lost both white octogenarians *and* Michael Steele…
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
I think so but I don’t have a lot of faith in people who are still undecided like the debate audience.
Corner Stone
@Baud: Why would we want actual undecideds to ask anything? They are fucking morons.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: She was ready for it and has parked it deep onto Addison.
MomSense
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA:
No. He’s stressing me out.
Baud
@Corner Stone: As opposed to the moderators.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: Worse.
debit
I repeat, undecided audience my pasty white ass.
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: Hell, I’d have lied about it to get in there.
dmsilev
@Baud: Real ‘undecided’ voters. Think about what that says about those people in this election.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Worse.
psycholinguist
So, about 30% of this country consists of white men, take out the reasonable ones, and you’re at 27%. His performance seems aimed at them, and only them, and that can’t win an election. The only thing that makes sense is he’s gathering his audience for Trump Media Inc.
randy khan
“I know nothing about Russia.” – First totally true statement.
amk
clearly, the audience is packed with trumpistas.
satby
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: I imagine the Secret Service are on high alert now, even if they weren’t before they heard the first sniff.
Betty Cracker
“I know nothing about Russia.” Christ on a crumpet.
Zinsky
Trump thinks this just an insult-a-thon, instead of a debate.
dmsilev
Oh, for fucks sake, another time pimping his fucking hotel?
? Martin
@amk: That was one of the more innocuous questions that got voted on, TBH.
Not a great answer from her, but Trump should have gone straight up ‘All politicians do that, I don’t do that – I tell you what I think’
And now he’s really stepping on his dick by saying we don’t know it’s Russia – he’s unaware that the US government formally accused Russia of hacking.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Trump’s teetering on unhinged.
wenchacha
He’s talking real estate.
Eljai
WTF is he talking about? I lost my decoder ring.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
This split screen with DJT swaying and walking and pacing and mugging is seriously distracting.
ThresherK (GPad)
Glad to hear Hillary bring up the fakery re the Russians and wikileaks. I am not counting on the media to care enough to delineate.
Seanly
I fucking hate Trump. I think his meds did wear off…
Now he’s rambling about his development.
misterpuff
Trump does Russian Word Taco Salad….no business there no loans…Clinton is hitting the mark.
Corner Stone
This fucking guy. Hilarious.
piratedan
man… we’re deep into HDS (Hillary Derangement Syndrome) here, linking her with Soros and Buffett.
wonkie
I can’t tell from the comments how this is goig and I can’t stand to watch. So…”moderators” with same ofl beating the dead horse questions for Hillary? Trump is incoherent? She is calm? That’s about it so far?
Adam L Silverman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
Kay
@MomSense:
How can they ask a question about the speeches when they had no idea of the context? That was a Lincoln story?
Christ almighty. A wikileaks release is now something to bank on with no context and no further investigation?
WereBear
@satby: He might have to be shot down like a rabid dog.
lamh36
Trumps lies so much, the media is forced to nitpick each and every HRC answer, which is a bit unfair…smh
lgerard
Someone bring up strawberries and get this thing over with
BillinGlendaleCA
I’ve missed quite a bit, but gawd Trump’s bad.
jl
Ha! Ex RNC chair Micheal Steele’s take on debate so far, which makes me feel good.
GOP at this moment. #debate
https://twitter.com/MichaelSteele/status/785290342807379968
I remember reading that Michael Steele was kicked out because of money mismanagement and incompetence. I figured at the time, yeah, probably, he is a GOPer hack, prolly true. But now, it don’t add up, ’cause of pretty much everything that has happened since he left office, and Reince. Maybe he was too black to be more competent than the white con people?
Regardless of his politics, I’ll trust Steele’s judgment.
hellslittlestangel
He simply doesn’t understand how not to make an ass of himself.
khead
@dmsilev:
Yeah, this is what I told my wife. The questions are being asked by the common clay.
Baud
WHY IS THIS GUY UNDECIDED???!!!
Bill E Pilgrim
@Omnes Omnibus: Last debate, he made undecideds decide not to vote for him. This debate, he’s making them despise him.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
But then you’d be stuck in a room full of idiot undecideds and Trump.
Larkspur
@amk: I don’t know, sometimes it seems like they’re laughing at him.
NotMax
“She has more money and can afford more ads than me.”
So speaketh Mr. Self-funding Billionaire.
Starfish
@Omnes Omnibus: He’s not terrible. He is talking calmly while being absolutely out of touch with reality. It looks liked he learned from Pence.
piratedan
and now we’re into the narcissist zone… where everything is about the Donald
dmsilev
OMG CLINTON JUST SCRATCHED HER NOSE!
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Yes.
Corner Stone
@ThresherK (GPad):
I AM ALSO COUNTING ON THAT VERY THING!
PsiFighter37
I have a feeling this is not going to win him any votes…the first 20-25 minutes were a train wreck for him.
wonkie
So nothing about his legal troubles, his mismanged companies or founation or connectios with Russians?
Corner Stone
BIGLY!
CZanne
His sheet? Are we taliking about the white one hanging in his closet?
“So much more money than me [for advertising]?” I thought you were a self-funding multi-billionaire?
Because one senator cannot change the tax code you cheez-whiz coated turd.
Baud
@dmsilev: ITCHGHAZHI!
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@randy khan:
Eliminate the last two words in the quote and I’m with you all the way.
debit
So he’s going to stop tax breaks, but she’s going to raise taxes and he’s going to lower them?
gene108
Trump is just going through an appeal to his wing-nut base.
Schlemazel Khan
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA:
WORRIED, HELL! I am hoping he does. The Secret Service would be allover his ass in a NY minute & that would be glorious. I doubt he could really hurt her, he is a limp dick and it would show very clearly a man unfit for office
debbie
JYNA!
randy khan
Our taxes are the highest in the world. Wow. I guess he’s never lived in Europe. (I knew that, of course.)
Mandalay
Trump is constantantly repeating himself, rambling, and going off on tangents. John Dean may have had a point.
Elizabelle
Oh good. Donald Trump is going to turn us into Somalia.
Corporations need more tax breaks. Cry me a river.
Soylent Green
“I know nothing about Russia. I know nothing about the inner workings of Russia.”
Now that’s a qualification for president.
Luthe
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: And this guy wants to be Fearless Leader.
lamh36
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: I want to meet Hilz.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@dmsilev:
That’s the seeekrit code signal!
amk
I am sorry to keep saying that he is lying.
donald always care of donald and people like donald. That’s 3 donalds in one sentence.
piratedan
she’s eating his fucking lunch on taxes
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Terrorist itch scratch.
gene108
@debit:
He’s stopping one tax break, carried interest deduction. He’s going cut a bunch of other taxes.
Corner Stone
@Kay:
There is no verification of the wikileaks emails. They have no idea what the truth actually is. But, “questions have been raised”.
ThresherK (GPad)
Where is the real-time fact checkering online? I’m listening to this (no video) and all my alarms are going off every time he speaks. If I were a smoke alarm someone would remove my batteries.
Soylent Green
Whatever Trump took to take the edge off the coke is wearing off.
David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch
NotMax
@dmsilev
That wasn’t a scratch, that was A SEIZURE!!!
/tomorrow’s right-winger sites
Sm*t Cl*de
It’s a Heaven-sent extinction event.
JGabriel
@piratedan:
Good.
amk
why is she not hitting the gop thugs in the house and senate on the tax issue?
JPL
@Corner Stone: Did he say massly?
Joyce Harmon
It tickles me when he’s raving and she sits there looking so darn serene.
CZanne
… Look, how much would it cost to buy out Nauru or one of the other drowning islands, and ship Trump and any volunteers who want to go where he can be Grand High Poobah? Cash well spent, I’m pretty sure.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
That would be cool.
Bill E Pilgrim
He’s like a cartoon villain. “Avoid taxes? Of course I do” The Trumper cooed, evilly. “
dmsilev
He’s blatantly refusing to answer the question about paying federal income tax.
amk
answer the fucking Q donald on your taxes.
gogol's wife
@CZanne:
God, I’d contribute to that.
delk
How many times with the Bernie Sanders judgement thing?
burnspbesq
Every tax lawyer and CPA in America is on the floor in convulsions.
p.a.
I don’t want this to sound like I don’t support HRC, am not questioning her qualifications, but if it were tRump vs a generic, qualified Dem, given Republican CDS, would tRump be polling at the 27% crazification factor? Or is it really ADDS, Any Democrat Derangement Syndrome, thanks to Fox news, hate radio, etc. and they’ll always have that 40-45% of the electorate until they die off?
Kay
@Corner Stone:
They’re so lazy. “Wikileaks” now does the legwork.
JGabriel
Donald Trump’s claimed net-operating losses in 1995 made up a full 2% of the net-operating losses claimed in the entire country.
amk
now he is go back to isis on the tax Q.
Ruckus
@hellslittlestangel:
He is what he is.
A complete ass.
100% ass.
All ass all the time.
The prime definition of ass according to Webster.
trollhattan
@Baud:
Only undecideds are still transitioning from velcro to lace-up shoes.
CZanne
Okay, I’m fixing myself a drink, and “bad judgement” is my sipper trigger.
Timurid
ISIS cheats on their taxes? Who knew?
amk
Because, I was a senator with a rethug prez. Boom.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: Because no one in the audience understands that and she can’t make them understand it in 2 minutes. 99% of the country has no idea how laws are created.
Old Dan and Little Anne
Cut his fucking mic already. Holy Christ.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Soylent Green:
Might not be an accident on Hilary’s part – shows she’s will take hardball questions from her critics while Donald whines about everything having to be in his comfort zone.
dr. bloor
@ThresherK (GPad): They’re paralyzed. Trump’s gone from Gish Galloping to Gish Kick In the Warp Drive.
gene108
@Luthe:
Who’s going to be Boris and Natasha? Hillary’s Rocket J. Squirrel for sure.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@burnspbesq: Get up! You might convulse too hard and get hurt.
Elizabelle
So a US Senator is a dictator in TrumpLand?
Omnes Omnibus
Packers up 17-6 at the half.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Baud:
RADICAL terrorist itch scratch. Get it right, Baud, FFS.
Anoniminous
@ThresherK (GPad):
Guardian is doing fact checking in real time.
Baud
@p.a.:
You might have a few percentage points differences, but it’s all speculative.
WaterGirl
will there be an intermission in this town hall?
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@p.a.:
Quite likely, yes. Once you’re the Democratic nominee, lies and smears abetted by the press become completely standard. Clinton at least knows how to fight back.
Mandalay
Trump is using Anderson Cooper as a mat to wipe his feet.
Cooper is just about the worst possible choice as a moderator for this kind of debate – weak and spineless.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: That’s code for the Alex Jones and Breitbart crowd. There’s a conspiracy theory that we funded AQI as it became ISIL.
Corner Stone
She just put her balls on the table and said come at me!
NoraLenderbee
He is way more together than I was hoping for.
Lizzy L
I’m not watching and I need another beer.
dr. bloor
@p.a.: John Kerry and his purple hearts have some thoughts they’d like to share with you.
lamh36
@nickconfessore
Appears Trump just admitted he had used his $916m in operating losses to avoid paying federal income taxes. Mystery solved?
Old Dan and Little Anne
Drumph is stalking around like Michael Myers.
Adam L Silverman
@WaterGirl: No.
James E Powell
Okay, halftime in Green Bay. Had to drop in and see how it’s going.
Here it sounds like Trump is the same Trump that lost the first debate, but the twitter is lit up with Trump supporters marveling at his complete destruction of the Evil One.
Helen
@lamh36: This. His walking around and not being able to stay still is making me extremely nervous.
dmsilev
@lamh36: Or he was admitting to using other losses in other years (the depreciation thing) to continue to not pay taxes.
TriassicSands
Trump: Waaaaaaaaaaah; she gets to talk and I don’t; she’s a disaster; why can’t I get a fair shake; everyone’s against me.
Endless whining…
burnspbesq
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
I’m tryin.’
amk
@Adam L Silverman: yup, muslims and mexicans – his only campaign ‘platform’
MobiusKlein
What a massive asswhole
Kay
Every time Trump says “she” I get annoyed.
There’s a Trump ad in Ohio where they use “she” so often- she did this, she did that- that I felt it was deliberate. It’s wild to watch the GOP really double down on sexism like they doubled down on racism with Obama. This is going to be a very small tent.
Poopyman
@Lizzy L: Lord help me, Mrs. P and I are at an inn at the beach and she’s got it on the tube.
I’m drinking wine and raging. Quietly, so far.
Omnes Omnibus
Undecided dude with the bright red sweater needs to rehink the ‘stache.
Emerald
Still hitting Russia. She’s got something planned.
ThresherK (GPad)
@Anoniminous: Thanks. Worth a graze.
piratedan
well, IF this was the “lets rattle Hillary” debate, he’s failing fucking miserably… his stalking her on the stage, the constant contradictions and the framing of the questions, she’s just sailing. She’s prepped, he isn’t.
lamh36
amk
@p.a.: the us of a elected, dumbya. twice. case closed.
Soylent Green
Betcha the media proclaims him the winner.
dmsilev
“We’re old and tired in nuclear”
???
Corner Stone
Why won’t the moderators say anything about the timing about Red Line?
PsiFighter37
The nuclear! Can’t wait until he talks about the cyber
randy khan
Is there any chance Trump knows the first thing about our nuclear program and the Russian nuclear program?
Gin & Tonic
He knows less than zero about nuclear weapons.
Adam L Silverman
@James E Powell: As I wrote here:
https://balloon-juice.com/2016/10/09/open-thread-man-in-the-high-trump-tower/#comment-6046145
Seanly
Did Trump just hint that we need a news arms race with Russia? WTF… SNIIIIFFF…
Immanentize
Hillary’s several mentions of Russia wanting Trump to win sounds like a preview of next week’s news surprises.
Corner Stone
@Soylent Green: They can’t They can’t.
burnspbesq
He just defended Qadaffi.
Bobby Thomson
Someone’s old, tired, and exhausted, but I don’t think it’s “we.”
Poopyman
I’m going to throw this out just once, but it applies to any time Trump opens his piehole:
What the fuck is he talking about?
And he’s sniffing again!
PsiFighter37
Trump is just making shit up at this point…
piratedan
look at Russia, the Russia I know nothing about but let me give you some of the insight on their foreign policy….
Botsplainer
He wants to expand the nuclear arsenal? WTF???
He’s your RWNJ uncle’s chain email gone sentient.
Central Planning
Every time trump sniffs, my 11 and 15 year old do exaggerated sniffs.
TriassicSands
@Mandalay:
Martha stands up to Trump, but he ignores her and Cooper. Trump doesn’t believe anyone else should get to speak, that’s why he whines about how unfair the debates are.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@p.a.:
Consider 2008, the GOP just about destroyed capitalism and 45% voted against Obama because of SOCIALISM!
Immanentize
People cannot follow his rambling references
gogol's wife
@Corner Stone:
Do you mean they objectively can’t, or you’re hoping they can’t?
dmsilev
“Let me repeat the question” Audience laughs.
BillinGlendaleCA
I hope no one did the “sniffles” drinking game. If anyone knows anyone who said they would, please call 911 for them.
JGabriel
I can hear Trump pining and longing for cocaine in every sniff and snort.
amk
he is gish galloping again.
Soprano2
What’s he babbling about Russia and nuclear weapons? I swear my whole reaction to this debate is that he is just babbling about things he’s heard on right-wing TV. He’s repeating all the right-wing talking points as if knows what they mean.
NoraLenderbee
Our friends, Russia and Iran!
PsiFighter37
LOL Trump just threw Pence under the bus. Hahaha
Baud
He and I haven’t spoke.
Mr Stagger Lee
Trump will go Balls to the wall against Putin?
jl
@Gin & Tonic:
” He knows less than zero about nuclear weapons. ”
What are those? Is that ‘The Nuclear’?
Keith P.
Trump thinks $1.6 billion will fill the entire debate room? I don’t think so.
Corner Stone
HE DISAGREES WITH PENCE. HIS FUCKING RUNNING MATE!!!
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@Adam L Silverman:
Yes. They definitely believe in that myth, and Trump is definitely trying it. It will be interesting to see their reaction when nobody cares and it doesn’t leave a dent on her.
MomSense
This is awful. He doesn’t know anything.
wenchacha
“Lemme tell you sumthin…”
NotMax
“Assad is killing ISIS.”
In what alternate reality? Assad is focused on rebels and anti-government militias.
Timurid
Bye, Pence…
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
The sniffing I cannot even
Rene
Why are they letting him go on and one?
debbie
@burnspbesq:
Also Assad and Putin, who he says is killing ISIS. Funny, all I ever hear is is Russians bombing hospitals?
CZanne
Martha reminds me of a mother/pre-school teacher with a tantruming toddler who is barely keeping herself from shoving the kid in a barrel and feeding him through the bunghole. I’m pretty sure everyone who has a child recognizes that tone.
Adam L Silverman
@PsiFighter37: This is all the stuff that Bannon’s folks publish at Breitbart and that Alex Jones pushes at InfoWars. It makes no sense to anyone but the people that already talk about it.
Corner Stone
@BillinGlendaleCA: Dead. I am dead.
psycholinguist
WTF – he rambles for 2 minutes and she lets him get a redo?
MomSense
Sneak attack! I didn’t even have that on my list.
dmsilev
@Baud:
See, I believe that..
Raddatz is calling him an idiot.
wenchacha
“How stupid is our country.” Donald Trump
ThresherK (GPad)
“Let me repeat the question, Mr. Trump, try to not wander away from it this time.”
Baud
The debates have been heavily focused on foreign policy.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Poopyman:
on twitter, the best theory is that he sniffs when he lies. I buy it.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Botsplainer: No, he’s the really drunk guy at the end of the bar.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
I didn’t expect to be impressed with Martha Raddatz. I did expect to be impressed with Anderson Cooper.
Au contraire, as it turns out.
Corner Stone
This is the weirdest thing. Ever.
I am loving Hillary more right now than I may have ever loved her.
NoraLenderbee
Raddatz is doing yeoman’s work.
Seanly
Why is Raddatz just letting him ramble on like a drunk, senile, racist uncle?
Botsplainer
Shut the fuck up, Donnie….
Your cashiered RWNJ generals and admirals were morons.
CZanne
@Keith P.: it’s 10 pallets of cash in $100s. Would fit in my spare bedroom (10×10) with room to spray for silverfish.
amk
boots on the ground. go fuck yourself, martha.
psycholinguist
oh god, Raddick is kicking his ass. Yo anderson, take some fucking notes on this
Baud
No ground forces.
Let’s see Trump’s response.
Adam L Silverman
Holey crap! A debate moderator just said: “tell me what your strategy is?”
chopper
Jesus he’s fighting the moderator again.
Suzanne
Martha Raddatz sounds almost as irritated as I feel.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
“The Packers are cheating! (sniff) They get FIVE downs! (sniff) And they’re letting terrists in the stands so they can kill Giants players! (sniff) Deflategate! Spygate! Black Sox! Splunge! (sniff) (sniff)”
— Giants fanboy Donald Trump
[Not a direct answer, I realize, but I figured you’d get the nub of my gist.]
piratedan
and now Hillary just drives a stake into the hearts of those that think she’s nothing more than a secret war mongering hawk. No boots on the ground for US ground troops if she can help it. Actually draws in the idea of giving the Kurds more help.
lamh36
Chris
@Botsplainer:
Well, no. Unfortunately, my RWNJ uncle’s chain email gone sentient would be my uncle. And he doesn’t go away after November.
Mary G
He’s just free associating now. The question is about Aleppo and he’s going off about Mosul. McArthur and Patton are spinning in their graves!
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
I love the way Hillary just smiles as Donald rants and rambles.
sukabi
Martha Raddiz(sp?) might be the one to throw a chair, at drumpf. She’s getting pissed. Lol
NotMax
@ThresherK
“Do you think, now, that perhaps you could come up with an answer at least remotely related to the question I asked?”
Actual Dick Cavett quote from his gone but not forgotten show.
? Martin
@Seanly:
Because he is rambling on like a drunk, senile, racist uncle. It’s who he is.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Wish I could go over to the game. I’m at a watch party, and it’s killing me.
Mandalay
@Seanly:
This. And doubly so since she knows far more than Trump about the Middle East. She should be pressing him for answers much more forcefully.
As moderators Raddatz and Cooper are mediocre.
Matt McIrvin
@jl: Ha ha, that’s a Russian bomb.
randy khan
@Keith P.:
$10 million in dollar bills would be about 10 feet on a side, according to teh Google. So he might be right if it’s ones.
Omnes Omnibus
@SFAW: Thank god, I wasn’t drinking when I read that.
TriassicSands
Trump is bombing in this debate, but his failure will not be recognized by his supporters — he’s been really insulting to Clinton and that’s what matters most. Any fair judgment on this debate will have Clinton with a sizable lead over Clinton.
Raddatz has tried very hard to get Trump to answer questions, but he can’t answer them because he doesn’t know what he talking about. “What is your strategy?” Trump ignored her. He kept running on about how everything is a disaster (probably Clinton’s fault).
There is zero substance to his answers. It is appalling.
OMG, Trump is whining again about how HRC always runs over her time and he is always cut off. It’s not fair. It’s not fair. I’m a victim.
amk
oh gawd, whining again, sack up, donald.
Soylent Green
We expected this to be about misogyny, and Trump is doing his part through endless bullying.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Just flipped on to see Trump whining about his time
randy khan
Working the refs on time allocation. Not a winner’s strategy.
nastybrutishntall
This is America’s face tonight.
Luthe
@BillinGlendaleCA: Anyone who has “disaster” as their drink trigger word is probably well on the way to alcohol poisoning by now.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Raddatz taking him on, giving Hillary some space. Letting him augur himself in. Mediocre white male beneficiary of white supremacist patriarchy Anderson Cooper is USELESS. Go Martha – it’s up to the women to be the grown ups.
ThresherK (GPad)
Please, Donald, keep interrupting. It looks good on you.
Can they turn his Mic off until he’s spoken to?
Botsplainer
Dumbest question yet.
Corner Stone
WTF was that question?
SFAW
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
I don’t know — I don’t think he sniffing nearly as much as he’s lying.
Baud
WTF with these questions?
amk
we will give economics to people?
psycholinguist
Radditz is tired of your shit Donald
Poopyman
Is fuckin’ Anderson Cooper under the table sucking his thumb, or what? What a useless piece of fluff.
Suzanne
God help me, I don’t know if I can make it through the next month.
Anne Laurie
@jl:
Somebody had to be punished after Romney lost, and the GOP money-handlers didn’t see why it should be a white person!
amk
inner cities, there you again, donahld.
randy khan
@Mandalay:
With Trump, I think it’s hard to be a good moderator – he doesn’t care what they think.
CZanne
You’re going to give economics to people? As in textbooks? Professors? I don’t want one — they’re expensive to feed and they need constant supervision, like a Jack Russell puppy.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Botsplainer: @Baud: what we get from the Common Clay of the New West who are still “undecided” and have been told all their adult lives that means they’re thoughtful and reflective people
Poopyman
@Baud:
They come from the people, the common clay of the New West. You know ….
No One You Know
Doubled down on “what do you have to lose?”
And four times he’s argued with the moderator.
debbie
20,000 WHITE people.
randy khan
The question about supporting everyone is right in her wheel house. It’s kind of a pity it’s not the last question.
dmsilev
@CZanne: I was going to say that professors don’t chew up the furniture, but, well, I’ve heard some stories…
amk
stupid questions, stupider answers.
SenyorDave
Trump’s a joke, but his base will eat this up.
Poopyman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Drink!
NotMax
@TriassicSands
Defective stopwatch.
;)
p.a.
David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch
Keith P.
@Anne Laurie: He at least did a decent job trying to attract the next generation of Republicans into the RNC. From that photo shoot he did, the young’uns really liked the guy. Maybe the Powers-That-Be thought it was unseemly to be “cool”?
Mary G
She addressed the questioner by name after Trump rambled for two and a half minutes. Everyone will have a place in her America.
Corner Stone
“Trump Effect”
Matt McIrvin
@Adam L Silverman:
Schoolhouse Rock, man. They weren’t paying attention to Schoolhouse Rock.
randy khan
And now we get the basket of deplorables question.
trollhattan
@randy khan: I
They go boom.
piratedan
cool, a Deplorables question. and Anderson.. have you fucking read those comments… guess what, some of them actually ARE fucking deplorable.
Mandalay
Clinton is doing fine, but she would do even better if she dropped the smirking and condescending laughter, however strong the temptation must be.
MomSense
@Suzanne:
You’re not alone
gogol's wife
So the whole audience was full of Republicans.
lamh36
NOT ALL BLACK FOLK LIVE IN INNER CITIES!!!!
#Debates
Kay
Jesus the skulking around behind her and staring at her is creepy. Looming. He’s looming.
I genuinely admire her insistence on claiming space on the stage. The staring is so obviously meant to to intimidate.
amk
she is tying the #deplorable with donald, the thug. sorry anderson
CZanne
Fact check: there is exactly 1 US city with above 40% urban poverty: Camden NJ. Passaic, NJ is #2, at 29%. Of the top poverty rate cities, 80 of 101 have poverty levels below 10%. Cities are where our economy is doing best. If you want to talk about poverty, it’s time to talk about rural and suburban, because that’s where it’s most intractable.
NoraLenderbee
Oh please say “RacISM is deplorable.”
Poopyman
You look at Washington DC. SNIFF
piratedan
wow, she has tremendous hate in her heart…. yup, that women who works for kids.
Corner Stone
Murder rate increase. Why won’t the moderators say something?
randy khan
“She has tremendous hate in her heart” – more projection.
Mart
Tic Tac Don. Bitch be a hater.
Lizzy L
@Poopyman: I am. 10 more minutes.
dmsilev
Does Trump know that over half the country approves of Obama?
amk
@gogol’s wife: yup. fucking ‘undecideds’. yet another media lie.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mandalay: Oh FFS.
TriassicSands
@randy khan:
The people who criticize the moderators would do no better with Trump. He has no sense of decency, no manners, and no restraint. Martha Raddatz has tried harder than any moderator I can remember to rein in Trump and he simply ignores her and accuses her of being unfair.
Donald announces that HRC “has tremendous hate in her heart.” Unbelievable.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Oh Anderson, Anderson, Anderson.
dmsilev
3AM Benghazi!
MomSense
My kid just texted me a photo of Paul Ryan in the debate audience. Guess he is undecided,too.
Mary G
Could he be doing any worse?
randy khan
He denies “sex tape.” smh.
beth
I wish Hillary would say “I was talking about the people wearing the Trump the bitch t-shirts”
Poopyman
WHO sent 3 AM tweets??
Mandalay
To give Trump his due, he’s been on stage for over an hour and still hasn’t mentioned “the blacks”.
Corner Stone
Oh my fucking God. This was nutz out balls fucking crazy!
CZanne
If it’s so divided, Donnie, how the fucking HELL do you think you can mend it?
Yes, you did say check out the sex tape.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
“Tremendous hate in her heart.” Just wow.
piratedan
and we pivot from the 0300 twitter storm to Benghazi, awesome.
burnspbesq
The problem is that it’s impossible to keep track of all the lies.
Stooleo
She has tremendous hate in her heart. Talk about projection.
Soprano2
Hey, Donald, most of the audience doesn’t know who Sid Blumenthal is. Most people in America don’t know who he is.
Doug R
@gogol’s wife: Duh. “Independent” = ashamed Republican.
Suzanne
“I’m not un-proud.”
Whaaaaaaat?
JGabriel
The next Benghazi, Donald Trump will be there, tweeting that people check out sex tapes.
Poopyman
@Mary G: Depends on what you mean by “worse”. If he actually flung shit I think that would be an improvement.
Rene
Hillary needs to be a bit stronger in criticizing Trump to get under his skin. He’s being allowed to rant too much on RWNJ conspiracy threats that some people will believe if they haven’t been following carefully.
Run, Lillian!
So, tonight’s 3AM rage tweet storm will be about Martha Raddatz I am guessing.
amk
twitter – next one to release the ad distancing themselves from the thug ?
ThresherK (GPad)
Anderson Cooper really had to pare that Deplorable thing down to the GOP framing, didn’t he?
Hate in her heart, Donald? Can’t take four more years of (60% approval rating Dem prez), Donald?
Corner Stone
She’s baiting him with Bill.
trollhattan
Not a good ģuy, by the way.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
“She has tremendous hate in her heart.”
What the everloving blue-eyed FUCK???
Baud
@Rene: Twitter says she’s got a different strategy.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
He didn’t even have the discipline to answer that last question, for fuck’s sake…
randy khan
“Thank you very much, both of you.” – nicely understated.
Wilson Heath
So much yamsplaining. And sick so cannot drink to tamp it down.
piratedan
SCOTUS from the audience… wowsers…
MomSense
@Corner Stone:
I’m back to stabby again.
Suzanne
@TriassicSands: Agreed. I think Raddatz is doing well and Cooper is fine. They are trying to control someone who may need a tranquilizer dart at this point.
Emma
@Rene: She’s fine. Those who believe in conspiracies won’t change their minds because she denies them.
Ruckus
@Mandalay:
His uninformed ranting and her sitting there calmly and answering questions will do far more for Clinton than anything MR could do to stop him. He’s a train wreck, going full speed off a cliff. You can’t really stop it, all you can do is be glad you aren’t on or in front of the train.
NotMax
“Slowest [economic] growth since 1929.”
Um, may want to pick a different year?
piratedan
Trumpy Dumpy still playing dominance games with the stalking.
JGabriel
Good question on SCOTUS, but damn, this debate is beginning to feel interminable.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
“I’m not proud of it, to be perfectly honest with you.”
Trump thinks he’s fucking Holden Caulfield.
randy khan
@piratedan:
Yeah, what were the odds on that? [no sarcasm at all.]
And Hillary nicely uses it not just to talk about broad characteristics, but to pick up on specific issues.
amk
roe vs wade. she is sticking up for it publicly.
CZanne
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Projection, projection, projection. This is textbook narcissist behavior — they cannot actually identify emotions in others, and don’t really recognize that other people have independent emotions, so their judgements of emotions are always of their own emotions, no matter what the person is actually saying/doing.
debbie
Not surprising:
WASHINGTON (AP) — A sexual-assault victim who is critical of Hillary Clinton and who appeared alongside Donald Trump before Sunday night’s debate was paid $2,500 by a political action committee founded by Trump ally Roger Stone.
amk
scalia is still dead.
Doug R
Jays game tied 6-6 heading into the 9th.
Poopyman
More Scalias. Thank you for that ad material, Donald.
Run, Lillian!
@Kay:
THIS. She has clearly stood up to men like this her whole life.
p.a.
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
Thought Donnie was more of a pu$$y man!
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
Breathe.
gogol's wife
Is this one two hours long?
khead
“Very beautifully reviewed judges”.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
“very beautifully reviewed” judges, so important
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@Rene:
I’m guessing her strategy is to let him rant about conspiracy theories. ‘Incoherent babbling’ is not as good as ‘whining butthurt’ for visceral effect of looking bad in front of an audience, but it’s definitely a loser.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
oh m god, he’s lying about being self-funded
Oh my god, he’s a moron
amk
I am self-funding my campaign. on a Q about SC. and not a peep from the ‘moderators’.
khead
@Poopyman:
Yeah, liked that one.
lamh36
folks talking about HRC not “baiting” Trump. She’s taking the high road trying to give folks reasons to vote FOR HER not just AGAINST Trump
rikyrah
@Kay:
And don’t think that women don’t notice it
CZanne
@debbie: Sold her time cheap. Nice to know her ethics can be bought.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@CZanne:
Yup. It’s all and always projection with him.
Corner Stone
Idiot.
Suzanne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think the very beautifully reviewed judges are on the shelf with the binders full of women.
Kay
People think “undecideds” will ask good questions but undecideds are morons. That’s why town halls are bad.
randy khan
@gogol’s wife:
It just feels that way.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: Here’s the link:
http://wtop.com/elections/2016/10/trump-ally-paid-sexual-assault-victim-critical-of-clinton/
dmsilev
@Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck: He’s got both the babbling and the whining.
Trentrunner
Judging from Twitter, CNN is getting ready to say that Trump did much better this debate.
Hope I’m misreading that.
wenchacha
I wouldn’t buy a floor mop from that guy.
gogol's wife
Oh, my God, this goes to 11:00. I can’t take any more. I’ll check in again at 11:00.
NotMax
“There is a thing called clean coal.”
Yeah, and there is also a thing called the tooth fairy.
Neither is real.
Emerald
How has she controlled herself throughout this? I am in awe.
misterpuff
An Undecided Fossil Energy Worker!
Great Fucking Job, Gallup!
no questions about Global Warming…..Again.
CZanne
@Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck: Why not both? Because I’m sure hearing both whining and ranting.
Oh, dear ghu, Clean Coal? SRSLY?
Brachiator
Can we ban town hall debates if we can’t get smarter questions?
Also, Trump is not entirely screwing the pooch. He is lying, but he is telling lies that some voters want to hear, including, sadly, being anti-Muslim.
He basically told innocent Syrians to fuck off and die so he can focus solely on ISIS, ISIS, ISIS. Simple-minded, but easy to understand, easy to buy into.
amk
@Kay: yup, this must rank as one of the stupidest debates.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
“Coal lasted for a thousand years in this country”?
Suzanne
@Kay: Anyone who was undecided at this point is an idiot. Sorry not sorry.
TriassicSands
Trump sniffs his way through the debate — must be another faulty microphone. Oh, the humanity!
gene108
Trump will kill the EPA…
David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch
p.a.
@lamh36: No need to bait tRump; he bathes in gasoline then plays with matches.
sukabi
Teel..plesae mention he bought steel from china…
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
Umm. We’re producing more natural gas and oil than we ever have in the history of the nation.
NotMax
@gogol’s wife
Nearly over. Didn’t begin right at the top of the hour.
Emma
@Emerald: I think she has a punching bag in her basement gym.
Baud
@Trentrunner: That’s what I’m seeing on Twitter too.
trollhattan
Jesus tapdancing Christ. Donnie’s a moron.
Anne Laurie
@WaterGirl:
Hey, I warned you to take a potty break before this show started!
Mary G
She hasn’t turned a hair and it’s driving him nuts.
Lizzy L
I thought this was 90 minutes? WTF?
TriassicSands
@amk:
It is impossible to have an intelligent debate with Donald Trump in the mix.
gene108
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
Technically coal’s lasted for 300 million years. I guess it can last for a few thousand more.
schrodinger's cat
I hate the Republicans for foisting this unprepared evil person this platform.
amk
@Brachiator: in short, he campaigned for his base. yet again. why is he so insecure about his ‘base’?
gene108
@Lizzy L:
First debate ran a little over time.
Poopyman
@Suzanne:
Quoted for truth, as Hillary goes on pushing back on Trump’s clean coal shit.
Doug R
3 down. We’re going to the bottom of the ninth tied.
gogol's wife
@schrodinger’s cat:
This is way too close for comfort. I want him CRUSHED. God, a tape with him bragging about sexual abuse hasn’t knocked him out. He could be president. This is a disaster.
E
Nope. No climate questions.
Soylent Green
@Brachiator:
If “undecideds” are the people asking them, then there’s no better solution.
Corner Stone
Fuck you, you fucking idiot!
dmsilev
Oh, for fucks sake, you have a national platform and that’s the question you ask?
Botsplainer
Who is fucking that stupid to ask that question?
lamh36
From someone keyboards to Allah, God, Goddess whoever’s ears…Pence is actually the reason so many are still sticking to Trump I’d bet
NotMax
Audience questioners heavily skewed male.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Oh god these simpering simpletons
Poopyman
Jesus Christ. The stupidest question of the stupidest debate.
TriassicSands
Last question is the dumbest of all.
lgerard
should have asked trump to explain what clean coal is
its just a phrase to him
jk
@Suzanne:
Trump needs the kind of tranquilizer that would be used to bring down an elephant.
piratedan
Hillary goes high road on the “good quality about your opponent” question
Adam L Silverman
Last question! Thanks be to someone’s, anyone’s, everyone’s Deity!
dmsilev
Clinton should have said she admires his hair.
And then sat down.
Mary G
Last question is a doozy, say one good thing about the other person. Hillary goes with his kids.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
Thanks. Links are impossible on an iPad mini.
Poopyman
Hillary is a better debater than me, obviously. Nice response.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
“I respect his children” – great answer…
Kay
@amk:
They’re so smug because we’ve been telling them for years they’re the best voters but they’re really not.
Anyone who cares a lot about Hillary’s email management is kind of a moron.
TriassicSands
@NotMax:
It is probably harder to find “undecided” females. They hate Trump if they are at all intelligent and have been paying attention.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Emma:
The nature of conspiracy theory is the believers will refuse to accept the official line even when a conspiracy is confirmed.
LAC
@gogol’s wife: Disaster for who? Trump is a sniffing asshole.
Corner Stone
I wish I could find and punch that stupid motherfucker.
Eljai
I can’t take this anymore. I’m just muting my TV when his mouth is moving.
Soylent Green
Thank you, America’s Burst Appendix (credit to Sam Bee’s writers).
Sarah, Proud and Tall
“I don’t know if it was meant to be a compliment”
Such an ass
gene108
@lgerard:
I thought clean coal was just a phrase…no one has really gotten it to work…
Botsplainer
@Poopyman:
I know. I’d have said “he didn’t shit his pants onstage”.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
he answered that better than I would have expected after his initial whining
starscream
Very skeptical of the Pence rumor, but if it’s true, that’s hilarious. It would completely dominate the spin room.
randy khan
And they shake hands at the end. The world can breathe again.
Mary G
Trump actually has a good answer at last! She’s a fighter and doesn’t quit. Then they shake hands at the end.
lamh36
BTW, They are in St Louis and NOT one question about Ferguson…ya’ll still think the questions were not chosen?
jk
@TriassicSands:
These undecided voters are among the dumbest fuckers in this nation.
Any voter who is undecided at this late date belongs in a basket of deplorables.
NotMax
Ooh, a Trump daughter shied away (nearly recoiled) from being kissed by him.
Ruckus
@schrodinger’s cat:
There are many more reasons than that.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
aw, they let Tiffany out for the night
Christ I hate Brian Williams
Kay
I know this sounds whiny but why are they saying she had to knock him out?
She’s winning. The burden is on him.
There is no way they will cut this person even a tiny break. These rules apply to no one else in the history of elections.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
??? I thought they were chosen by Gallup?
randy khan
@starscream:
Pence leaving the ticket would be stunning, if not necessarily surprising.
randy khan
Chelsea just had moment with Ivanka. They appeared to be making nice with each other.
Suzanne
@Poopyman: These questions are stupid because these people fundamentally like when a dude is aggressive but hate when a woman is the same way. That’s why everyone cheered when the last question was asked—ooooh, now she has to say something nice!
Poopyman
@Botsplainer: Assumes facts not in evidence.
Baud
@Kay: Both sides! from Chris Matthews.
Anoniminous
@gene108:
There’s no such thing as clean coal. It’s total bullshit.
NotMax
@lamh36
Who ever said that? Of course they are both pre-screened and chosen, In fact, the moderators explained that procedure at the very beginning.
Ruckus
@Anoniminous:
It’s marketing 101
jk
Dumb fucker Chris Matthews laments cheap shots from both sides. He gives Trump credit for him calling Hillary a fighter.
Soylent Green
At this juncture, are there still voters out there having the following conversation?
“Who’s running again?”
“Donald Trump.”
“The ‘You’re Fired’ guy?”
“Yeah, that’s him.”
“Which side is he on?”
“Republican, against Hillary Clinton.”
“Hillary Cl…oh, I remember. She was first lady.”
“Yeah, and then she got elected to something. Then I heard she got a job as a secretary.”
CZanne
@randy khan: My guess is that Chelsea has a hell of a lot of empathy, and Ivanka has got to be mortified by the last 72 hours.
TriassicSands
@Mary G:
Not only was that the dumbest question of the debate, it was grossly unfair to Clinton. If someone asked me that question about Trump I would have to take a pass. There is nothing I know about Trump that is at all admirable. Clinton, on the other hand, has many admirable traits.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Why on earth aren’t you all watching on CSPAN?
Brachiator
@amk:
That’s his comfort zone. However, he kept quoting Bernie. He actually offered some ideas about health care, moving beyond the standard GOP repeal tactics. He kept up his clumsy appeal to blacks and Latinos. This is more than just playing to his base.
This is the closest he has come to a pivot.
ETA. Trump’s base loves his promise to continue the persecution of the Clintons.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@gogol’s wife: Relax please – to be president a GOP candidate has to bring over 6% of the vote to him. Trump has done nothing but play to his base that will already vote for him and given no one outside it a reason to vote for him. He never was going to win.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@NotMax:
Tiffany? She didn’t come in with Melania and the Evils (Uday, Qusay, and Lucretia) but I caught a glimpse of her at the end.
randy khan
@Brachiator:
He just mouthed GOP talking points about health care, and didn’t even really get them right. If you don’t actually know what he meant by “state lines” you’d have no idea what he was talking about.
NoraLenderbee
“clean coal” is like “free beer.” Everyone would like some, but it doesn’t exist.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@lamh36: What, what,can a VP do that? Voting is started.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
Q: Say something nice about your opponent.
H: Donald’s kids are great?
D: What the hell did you mean by that?
TriassicSands
@jk:
I don’t agree that anyone who claims to be undecided at this point is automatically stupid. They may also be liars. If you can’t be considered for inclusion in the debate unless you say you’re undecided, then why not just lie? On the other hand, anyone who lied, probably supports Trump, and that in and of itself would make the person an idiot. (Note: On the old Stanford-Binet scale a moron is smarter than an idiot — idiot is the lowest in intelligence. An idiot, according to the old thinking, has an IQ of 0-25, while a moron’s IQ is between 51 and 70. I’ll stick with idiot for Trump supporters.)
jk
Kellyanne Conway has come out of hiding from the Sunday shows to talk to dumbass Chris Matthews
amk
@Brachiator: so you bought his gish gallop on healthcare? it was utter bs with zero specifics and all babbling about state lines.
wuzzat
@CZanne: Weren’t Chelsea and Ivanka friends in college? If one of my college friends was forced to deal with having Donald Trump as a father, I’d be sympathetic too. Before this all started, at least Ivanka had the family fortune to look forward to as compensation for her father being a crazy shithead. Now there’s a decent chance that the IRS will end up owning everything before all is said and done. I suspect that she and the other Trumplings are looking into competency hearings right about now.
Brachiator
@amk:
I didn’t buy it, and his ramble about the magic of competition is nonsense.
But this helps him with the average voter who is not a policy wonk. And even a Republican talking point is more effective than the old GOP line that didn’t go further than promising to just repeal Obamacare.
joel hanes
@schrodinger’s cat:
I hate the Republicans for foisting this unprepared evil person this platform.
OTOH, I love the Republican base primary voters for finally ripping off the mask behind which the GOP has hidden its pathologies since Nixon. Trump is the avatar, their spirit animal, the embodiment of their sickness, and he’s making it impossible to not see that. ALEC without the savoir faire, National Review without English majors.
This is an historic catastrophe, and completely deserved.
They traded their integrity for this mess of pottage long ago.
PPCLI
@Brachiator: Huh? All I heard was the standard GOP dodge of “sell insurance across state lines!” because abra cadabra competition! And he couldn’t even convey that clearly. He didn’t even mention the other bullshit dodge “tort reform”.
amk
@Brachiator: nope, even an average voter with an even ‘average’ IQ won’t buy his it’s gonna be beautiful, it’s gonna the bestest word salad.
eta: who gives a shite about ‘trump’s base’ at this point?
Cckids
@David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch: Good. I prefer him to be at the helm of this ship as it sinks.
Ruckus
@NoraLenderbee:
That’s not true. I once had free beer at the Carlsberg brewery. It wasn’t too bad.