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[Facepalm] Open Thread… “The Aristocrats!”

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Somewhere, the ghost of Richard Nixon snarls, “Hey, dipshit, y’ever consider a big steaming mug of Shut the F*ck Up?”

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  1. 1.

    Major Major Major Major

    The sort of witch hunt in which the alleged witch releases emails showing that he was actively seeking spells for turning people into newts.

    “She turned me into a newt! …well I got better.”
    “See? No scandal!”

  2. 2.

    Villago Delenda Est

    “Innocent” as in “Yeah, so what I’ve got this bloody dagger drenched in the victim’s blood in my hand. What’s it to ya, copper?”

  3. 3.

    debbie

    I can’t imagine what Trump thinks was positive about the G20. For the first time in forever, the U.S. is totally isolated from practically the rest of the world.

  4. 4.

    Yarrow

    Are there any protests organized in France? Has anyone heard anything? They’re pretty good at protests.

  6. 6.

    MomSense

    What are we up to about a dozen high crimes and misdemeanors at this point?

    When will our elected representatives stop betraying their sworn oaths to defend our constitution?

    Traitorous bastards all of them.

  8. 8.

    Karen

    I have no idea why dolt45 would go to France, he doesn’t like protests; and from what I have read protests are being planned. But then I don’t understand why Marcon even invited him, my thought was that he was setting dolt up for something.

  10. 10.

    Roger Moore

    @MomSense:

    When will our elected representatives stop betraying their sworn oaths to defend our constitution?

    When Trump loses enough popularity with the Republican base they aren’t afraid of the consequences of turning on him.

  12. 12.

    lollipopguild

    The next step is to admit to it all while saying that it’s no big deal and Clinton and the Dems have done/will do things that are even worse.

  13. 13.

    Patricia Kayden

    Trump crying about witch hunts is hilarious. This is the idiot who claimed to have sent investigators to Hawaii to hunt for President Obama’s birth certificate. This is the man who asked Russia to dig up Secretary Clinton’s emails. This is the douche who invited twitter followers to watch a nonexistent porn tape of a beauty pageant contestant who condemned him for racism and misogyny.

    But he’s the biggest victim of witch hunts. Yeah, right.

  14. 14.

    Karen

    somewhere today, I saw a chart on what dolt has done with his time since G20; there are hours and hours of nothing the only thing he did spend time on was golf. A few phone calls and not much else in way of “work”

  15. 15.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Karen: I suppose Macron has no choice but to meet with the American President at some point in time so he might as well get it over with now. Looking forward to the protests and I hope Trump is made aware that they’re against him.

  16. 16.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @debbie:

    For the first time in forever, the U.S. is totally isolated from practically the rest of the world.

    In tRump world, that’s a positive.

  17. 17.

    Patricia Kayden

    @lollipopguild: It almost feels as if that’s what they’re already doing. Among their supporters, that would be a perfectly rational argument.

  19. 19.

    BCHS Class of 1980

    @Mike in DC: A serious question: so everything we’ve heard in the past few days is not related to that hypothetical blockbuster?

  20. 20.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Richard M. Nixon‏ @dick_nixon

    I can’t get over it. It is like writing, “Here is how we will rob the bank, part of our bank robbery spree, which you should keep quiet.”

    8 replies 67 retweets 192 likes

  21. 21.

    Albert Z.

    Echoes of Nixon? Witch Hunt? Turning people in to Newts? Newt Gingrich? It’s all making sense now. Now we just need a shrubbery.

  23. 23.

    TenguPhule

    @MomSense:

    What are we up to about a dozen high crimes and misdemeanors at this point?

    Well we can only execute them all for treason once.

    So why not shoot for the moon, corruptly speaking?

  24. 24.

    dr. bloor

    @debbie:

    I can’t imagine what Trump thinks was positive about the G20. For the first time in forever, the U.S. is totally isolated from practically the rest of the world.

    If you can’t master the art of “Groupthink” without the inconvenient “think” part, you’re never getting a gig with this administration.

  25. 25.

    TenguPhule

    @Roger Moore:

    When Trump loses enough popularity with the Republican base they aren’t afraid of the consequences of turning on him.

    First of Never, then.

  26. 26.

    low-tech cyclist

    “the positive coverage they expected to receive from the President’s trip abroad” – these guys apparently expected brownie points for being able to get on an airplane. (Paraphrasing Owen Ellickson)

  28. 28.

    TenguPhule

    @BCHS Class of 1980:

    so everything we’ve heard in the past few days is not related to that hypothetical blockbuster?

    Apparently not. So expectations have been raised.

    Who did Donald Trump rape and kill in Moscow?

  29. 29.

    sm*t cl*de

    He was open, transparent and innocent.

    Anyone can give just a single account of events. True transparency is giving five different accounts of events, so you can pick the one you want.

  30. 30.

    dmsilev

    Which would be worse, a witch turning someone into a newt, or turning someone into a Newt? I submit that the latter would be far worse, especially since available evidence suggests that you don’t get better.

  31. 31.

    TenguPhule

    @lollipopguild:

    The next step is to admit to it all while saying that it’s no big deal and Clinton and the Dems have done/will do things that are even worse.

    You haven’t seen the Rightwing Alt-media response today yet then. They’ve already jumped on that lifeboat with lead sneakers.

  32. 32.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Why can’t a guy do a shady meeting, lie about it, get caught, lie again, get caught again & lie again without folks going hysterical?

    I know, right? Life is so sucky sometimes.

  33. 33.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    By Shane Harris (wall street journal link)
    July 12, 2017 4:12 p.m. ET

    WASHINGTON—U.S. intelligence agencies starting in the spring of 2015 detected conversations in which Russian government officials discussed associates of Donald Trump, several months before he declared his candidacy for president, according to current and former US officials.

    They colluded right from the very beginning.

  34. 34.

    lollipopguild

    @TenguPhule: I have to limit how much I read about dolt45 for mental health reasons. I check in here to get the latest updates.

  35. 35.

    efgoldman

    @dr. bloor:

    I can’t imagine what Trump thinks….

    You need to stop right there. His name and any iterations of the verb “to think” don’t even belong in the same zip code.

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    “Why is everybody always picking on me?”
    – Charlie Brown [insert name here] Trump

  43. 43.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Albert Z.: Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. (“A path! A path!”) Then, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest… with… a herring!

  45. 45.

    TS

    Unbelievable what ALL and any Republicans in congress will say to report Trump. One on Chris’s show just said “I will listen to anyone about my campaign” When called on it – says he is being asked “hypotheticals” and it is all conjecture. Pffffffffft – they would sell grandma – and their children – for a tax break and political power.

    This is what they peddle night and day to the people they supposedly represent.

  47. 47.

    Mike in DC

    @BCHS Class of 1980: while the NYT and WSJ story dropped within a few days of each other, the WaPo has been quiet on the Trump/Russia front, in terms of major news, for over a week now.
    I assume theyre working on a collusion story as well, but likely have different sources. So it might be a different incident or even a story that puts Trump directly in the loop. The latter would certainly be a game changer.
    Or they could have nothing. But i doubt it!

  48. 48.

    mainmata

    @Karen: Since Macron won the previous arm wrestling…er handshake contest, he wants to play again. We were told he doesn’t even like to travel but he’s back to Europe. Hopefully, there will be protests but we already know that he pays little attention to such things. He thinks the G-20 was a success for him when, in fact, it was another disaster. I think Trump’s basically in escape mode at this point. (Sad!) He must sense that his Presidency is rapidly going down the drain pretty much due to his arrogance and monstrous vengeance-against-all-things-Obama destructive agenda and wants to just get out of town.

  54. 54.

    Adam L Silverman

    @lollipopguild: They already did that. Apparently a Ukrainian American DNC staffer got wind that Manafort was in the running to take over the Trump campaign. So on her own accord she arranged a meeting with someone at the Ukrainian embassy in DC to compare notes on Manafort then sent a backbrief via email to several other staffers at the DNC. Sarah Huckabee Sanders trotted this out at today’s not televised press conference to explain that the Democrats, the DNC, and the Clinton campaign actually colluded with a foreign power during last year’s campaign.

  55. 55.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Karen: There was reporting this afternoon that he complained after the Middle East and NATO trip last month that he didn’t have any downtown when he got back. Apparently he was very upset. So staffers cleared several days for him to recover from last week’s trip.

  56. 56.

    gene108

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    tRump world, that’s a positiv

    Especially with his voters, who don’t get that we are not the boss of the rest of the world.

    And if we want to not be isolated and ignored and have our standing diminished we need to cooperate with other countries.

    These voters do not support ratifying treaties. Even those that are just clarifying existing international law, which we already ratified, like recent updates to the Law of the Sea treaty.

  57. 57.

    efgoldman

    @Adam L Silverman:

    to explain that the Democrats, the DNC, and the Clinton campaign actually colluded with a foreign power during last year’s campaign.

    Pro.
    Jec.
    Shun.

    One of the things they’re best at.
    Lying bastards.

    Fuckem

  59. 59.

    efgoldman

    @gene108:

    These voters do not support ratifying treaties.

    Most of those voters don’t know what treaties are, unless it means we put the boot on somebody’s neck.

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Adam, would appreciate any insight or comment you might have regarding this.

    From a purely layman’s perspective, seems a logical evolution in terms of both military preparedness and potential deployment options (though I would expect inter-service jousting to result in delaying or lessening the massive announced cut).

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: I read something a few weeks ago that the actual readiness of the PLA was around 1 million troops that could be fought at any time. I don’t spend a lot of time focusing on the PLA, my interests in the PRC in terms of regional and geo strategic issues is in other areas, so I’m not sure how accurate the article I saw was. Regardless, I’m sure this makes sense for them in terms of how they see their operating environment.

  64. 64.

    Mike in NC

    How ironic that Trump wanted to go watch a Bastille Day parade, when the whole point of the French Revolution was to dispose of rotten entitled plutocrats like the Trump clan.

  65. 65.

    efgoldman

    @NotMax:

    you ought to be able to detect a tremor in the Force this week.

    Local nooz is full of it.
    Also, not that I care, but they said Kris Krispie cancelled, but Snotty Walker will be here.

  66. 66.

    efgoldman

    @Mike in NC:

    Trump wanted to go watch a Bastille Day parade,

    He can order one up; get the four service bands marching around in circles so it looks like the whole Pentagon. He can have cotton candy.

  75. 75.

    TenguPhule

    Facepalm, the Trump edition

    On Wednesday, the elder Trump doubled down on his past doubts about that conclusion — even going so far as to suggest that it was Hillary Clinton that Putin wanted.

    In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network’s Pat Robertson, Trump expounded at length on this theory. Here’s the full quote:

    It’s something that you don’t like talking about, but again we are the most powerful country in the world, and we are getting more and more powerful because I’m a big military person. As an example, if Hillary had won, our military would be decimated. Our energy would be much more expensive. That’s what Putin doesn’t like about me. And that’s why I say, Why would he want me? Because from Day One I wanted a strong military; he doesn’t want to see that. And from Day One I want fracking and everything else to get energy prices low and to create tremendous energy. We’re going to be self-supporting — we just about are now. We’re going to be exporting energy. He doesn’t want that. He would like Hillary where she wants to have windmills. He would much rather have that because energy prices would go up and Russia, as you know, relies very much on energy. So there are many things that I do that are the exact opposite of what he would want. So what I keep hearing about that he would have rather had Trump, I think probably not because when I want a strong military — you know she wouldn’t have spent the money on military, when I want a strong military, when I want tremendous energy, we’re opening up coal, we’re opening up natural gas, we’re opening up fracking — all the things that he would hate, but nobody ever mentions that.

    I think I threw up in my mouth a little.

  77. 77.

    TenguPhule

    Hey Adam, Qatar dropped off the news map.

    What the hell is going on since everything started going to hell there?

  80. 80.

    Laura

    So does he sleep during the day? 3:39 am tweets? I’m guessing he does his watching of “the shows” all night long and then twits out his missives followed by the routine’s of a White House morning, seemingly unconcerned about the Daily Presidental Briefing, meetings of great import, KFC luncheon, calls to pals, pushing the diet coke button, signing vague executive orders, raging at any/everyone, having his hair reassembled, checking the financial status of the various properties and the debt service, consultation with legal and dinner with Melania and Barron (presumes facts not in evidence on that last one).
    So when does he sleep, or does he sleep?

  82. 82.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @TenguPhule:

    He would like Hillary where she wants to have windmills. He would much rather have that because energy prices would go up and Russia, as you know, relies very much on energy.

    There is so much wrong with this, it makes no economic sense. If we use wind power and reduce our demand for fossil fuels, then we reduce demand for them. That would make prices go down, not up. Did Trump ever take an Economics survey class, much less a principles class?

  83. 83.

    Adam L Silverman

    @TenguPhule: Secretary Tillerson is trying to broker a resolution. From the reporting I saw yesterday he’s in the process of trying to get the Saudis and their allies to back off and cool down to create space to negotiate a proper settlement that everyone can live with.

  87. 87.

    TenguPhule

    @Laura:

    So when does he sleep, or does he sleep?

    He sleeps between the long hours he spends goofing off and the short minutes he devotes to ruining the government.

  90. 90.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman:

    From the reporting I saw yesterday he’s in the process of trying to get the Saudis and their allies to back off and cool down to create space to negotiate a proper settlement that everyone can live with.

    So open warfare by Labor day then?

  91. 91.

    TenguPhule

    @lollipopguild:

    . I also have acid reflux which has gotten worse since November 2016.

    You too? Nothing like the taste of stomach acid after waking up from a nightmare. To another nightmare.

  97. 97.

    Adam L Silverman

    @TenguPhule: Doubtful. The Saudi military has serious issues. Which is why it has been unable to take out the Houthi tribesmen in Yemen and why, before the current crown prince, the preferred Saudi course of action was to work behind the scenes and through proxies.

  99. 99.

    Jeffro

    Rachel Maddow is discussing the Wall Street Journal story from today where not only were the Russians talking about getting the Trump campaign going back in 2015(!) but European intelligence agencies were warning there US counterparts about Russian money flowing into Republican campaign coffers.

    Wow. I don’t care how long it takes I hope they get every bit of this out into the open, as an object lesson to both the Russians and two republican traitors.

    So number one I have to give some props to Adam (and others) who have been saying “follow the money” all along. Exposing who got paid and who supplied the funds could have significant multiple benefits down the road when it comes time for some truth and reconciliation and then some serious campaign-finance reform. That’s right, Citizens United, I am COMING FOR YOU.

    The second thought, which I mentioned to my wife just a little bit ago is: The way that this almost mind blowing turn of events has been gradually exposed for public consumption and built to this level in this short amount of time … it would not shock me if in 10 or 20 or 30 years we found that some deputy director somewhere helped direct traffic and monitor the pace of these leaks so that by the time indictments begin to drop, the public will have turn mostly against this gang of crazy criminals. Or at the very least they will be able to wrap their heads around possibly the biggest scandal in American political history

  101. 101.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The Saudi military has serious issues.

    As I recall, having military forces of doubtful effectiveness has not been a historical restraint against attacking other countries in the region.

  105. 105.

    Ladyraxterinok

    @Yarrow: Invited to commemorate Bastille Day. Think about what happened during the French Revolution!!

    Hope T is not supposed to give a speech/make some remarks. Unbelievable potential for stupid, disasterous statements.

    Think of the words to the French national anthem: a bllody battle called for/remembered.

  107. 107.

    Mike in NC

    Maybe Trump told Pence that he was born in a log cabin and taught himself to read by candlelight. Such humble origins!

  112. 112.

    Shana

    @Mike in DC: Can I just say here, that while I have my issues with a fair amount of the coverage from both NYT and WaPo during the campaign, subscriptions pay for the journalists who are doing this work we’re all enjoying so much right now.

    No, I don’t work for either, or know anyone other than one book reviewer at WaPo.

  114. 114.

    sm*t cl*de

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The Saudi military has serious issues.

    I was under the impression that it exists primarily to provide glamorous and low-risk jobs for otherwise-unemployable scions of royalty, while spending money in a way that allows most palm-greasing along the way. So they excel at bombing civilians from a safe altitude, and crushing democracy protests in Bahrein.

  115. 115.

    sm*t cl*de

    @TenguPhule:

    the long hours he spends goofing off and the short minutes he devotes to ruining the government.

    ‘Such time as he can spare from the adornment of his person he devotes to the neglect of his duties’.

  116. 116.

    Jeffro

    @Adam L Silverman:
    El
    Oh
    El

    ‘Penetration’ or just plain ol’ carpet bombing, it’s already been a good week. People might not have realized it, but we crossed several major milestones just in the past 72 hours:
    – no more denying collusion happened; it’s just a matter of how much, when it started, and most importantly, who ok’d it (wait – even MORE importantly – who has lied to cover up that it happened)
    – investigations looking hard at Russian financing, at the illegal hacking of the DNC and how Trump/Russia worked together to exploit that info at a precinct level (HUGELY important for the next stage of this crisis)
    – Trump Jr. and Kushner and Bannon clearly at each others’ throats; Flynn HAS to be talking at this point (Page too)
    – Even the Bannon strategy of ‘smear the reporters, babble at the mainstream media, outright lie to Trump supporters’ is out there and being openly discussed

    Here’s to you, unknown deputy director in the IC: you’ve done a great job prepping the battlefield. Give ’em another week to see who wants to talk, and then let’s see some indictments…a LOT of ’em.

  117. 117.

    Laura

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: @TenguPhule:
    Thanks to the two of you’s! I know Martha Stewart is another ‘celeb’ noted for the short sleeping hours but she works (and works out) like a rented mule.
    This tool, his behavior just reminds me of folks that had a serious coke habit, none of whom had delusions of grandeur about presidentin’

  118. 118.

    jc

    “The Aristocrats!”

    Thank you for that. The exact thought occurred to me this morning. The traitorous first family, and the gang of goons surrounding them, such a shit-show.

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