EVANGELICALS: Lord, if I'm wrong show me a sign!
*Trump Tower bursts into flames*
EVANGELICALS: …any sign at all!
— Jesse McLaren (@McJesse) January 8, 2018
WATCH: Smoke billows out of Trump Tower as firefighters respond to electrical fire https://t.co/kHlN77LRoc
— Raw Story (@RawStory) January 8, 2018
For once, the NYC Trump Tower tenants may have reason to be grateful to Trump — or, more correctly, Trump’s Secret Service detail. I went through a “routine” rooftop equipment-related “smoke event” some twenty years ago, when I was working in Boston’s Hancock Tower. Being rushed down sixty flights in the underlit emergency stairwell, while security guards ran up & down yelling at us and each other, is not one of my favorite life memories. Sounds like the SecServ guys alerted firefighters before the building had to be evacuated.
Meanwhile, smart review from Michael Hiltzik, at the LA Times — “I knew everything in Wolff’s ‘Fire and Fury’ even before it was published. Here’s how”:
… [T]he proper way to think about “Fire and Fury” is not as a book, but as an event. The vast majority of people discussing it over the next few weeks — assuming the furor lasts that long — will not have read it. When the Sunday cable talk shows went into full cry over it, they focused largely on the West Wing’s reaction to it…
But having done the reading homework myself, I can tell you that the first 30% of “Fire and Fury” is an engaging read, full of little frissons of revelation. It’s not badly written, though portions show the effects of hasty editing to meet a deadline.
After the first third, however, it becomes boring, repetitious and, ultimately, depressing. There just isn’t much for Wolff to say about the White House after he’s said it once, and the discouraging thought that his cast of characters are in place because of a quirk of the American presidential electoral system that surprised them as much as it shocked outsiders soon outweighs any pleasure one might get from watching them bite each others’ heads off…
Wolff identifies the principal camps during his time as a fly on the wall as those of Bannon; first daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner; and former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, who was replaced by John F. Kelly at the end of July. This started to be widely known even before inauguration day.
But Wolff may actually have made a signal contribution to Trumpology here by making clear how much each gang leaked to undermine the others. Despite the obligatory paragraphs in all those inside-the-West-Wing scoops in the big papers about how many sources they were based on (how many people work in the White House, anyway?), it appears from Wolff’s book that those stories really all emanate from the power jockeying among those three groups; sometimes it’s one camp leaking against the other two, sometimes two camps in temporary alliance against the third.
This just tells you that the correct rule of thumb to apply when reading any of these yarns is the Latin term “Cui bono?” (“Who gains?”)…
That being said, Cui bono from the agenda for the evening?
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
it snowed in the sahara today
The Thin Black Duke
Burn Baby Burn!
(the classics never get old)
Mnemosyne
Despite what some teevee shows seem to think, it’s not actually entertaining to watch people screw up the exact same way over and over again, so I can see why Fire and Fury would become tedious pretty quickly.
Mnemosyne
Also, since I haven’t gotten to use this one yet:
I did Nazi that coming. ?
Villago Delenda Est
Palace intrigue of the type that one normally sees at Versailles.
Oh, wait, that ended really well for the Bourbons, didn’t it?
Feebog
I have knee surgery on Wednesday, so I Will be laid up for a spell. I’m posting excerpts of the book to Face Book every day just to piss off my conservative friends.
Baud
@Villago Delenda Est: Well, it took a couple of hundred years. Hopefully, we can do it sooner.
Calouste
Talking about right-wing buffoons and infighting, Theresa May attempted a cabinet reshuffle today and several ministers refused to take their newly assigned rules, one resigning from the cabinet rather than taking a sidewards demotion.
Quinerly
Can’t help but wondering about how Trump feels about his precious Ivanka making fun of his hair routine.
ArchTeryx
Can’t. Stop. Laughing. As someone already posted, burn, baby, burn!
Adam L Silverman
Looks awfully familiar.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Mnemosyne: GO TO YOUR ROOM YOUNG WOMAN
Major Major Major Major
Milo Yiannopoulos will represent himself in Simon & Schuster lawsuit, so that’ll go well
B.B.A.
@Villago Delenda Est: I get more of a Roman Empire vibe myself.
Ruckus
@Mnemosyne:
I was thinking of buying the book but figured I’d either get supremely pissed off or bored and not finish it. It might be worth buying to boost the author’s bank account, just on general principles.
different-church-lady
TRUMP TOWER: “I would now like to do an impersonation of my owner when he heard about the Michael Wolff book…”
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
I’m pretty sure there’s a Constitutional right for right-wingers to be published by any book publisher of their choice. It’s not like there are contracts involved or something. ?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): See, global warming is a Chinese Hoax!
Ruckus
@different-church-lady:
It is an ugly building but even so it’s just an inanimate object.
Oh wait, never mind, carry on.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: Wasn’t there a fire at the Clinton digs last week? The house on the grounds that the Secret Service uses? These weeks are running together.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@The Thin Black Duke: I said that on this morning’s thread.
Baud
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/1/8/16863342/james-damore-google-lawsuit-diversity-memo
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I love how they’re arguing that what we need is affirmative action to promote ideological diversity. It’s bizarro world triple-reverse trolling.
eclare
@Quinerly: Yes, I read that, it was where the Secret Service stays at Chappaqua
Baud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/01/08/trump-appointed-regulators-reject-plan-to-rescue-coal-and-nuclear-plants/
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
To requote “The Simpsons” from that comment thread:
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Fuckem.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: Their only principle is Heads I Win, Tails You Lose.
Another Scott
@Adam L Silverman: Burning some burn bags, maybe?
Dunno.
Cheers,
Scott.
Mnemosyne
@Baud:
Yeah, that’ll go well for him under California employment law.
JR
up is down.
(National Review contributor / NY Post movie critic Kyle Smith admits that stop and frisk was a failure).
Quinerly
More terrible judicial picks, including the attorney who represented Jesse Helms and his campaign: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a4fc2cae4b01e1a4b14e51d
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Another Scott: Someone earlier suggested the president’s pants finally burst into flames.
gene108
Someone should alert Stephen Miller, Andersen Cooper is interviewing Trump supporters.
I do wonder, if the news views Trump voters as some sort of zoo like exhibit, which sophisticated media types and their in-crowd like to look at for their amusement.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I am not sure I asked you this, but how was your trip? Its nice to have you back.
Quinerly
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): That was my favorite comment of the day.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I don’t think Damore is smart enough to have principles.
eclare
@Baud: Wow! Good to hear.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: Yes there was. One of the smaller guard structures that the Secret Service uses at the Clinton home in NY had a small fire.
Omnes Omnibus
@The Thin Black Duke:
Adam L Silverman
@gene108: This is exactly how they view them. More’s the pity.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: OT: how you doing?
Villago Delenda Est
@Baud: White, male conservatives are fortunate that they’re still covered by various laws that protect them from getting their asses kicked routinely.
lamh36
Ugh…I was excited for the X-Files reboot, I’m loving the Will & Grace reboot, but I was only half interested in this Roseanne show reboot.
Welp…if I wasn’t interested before, I’m DEF not interested now… FUQ you Rosanne!
It wasn’t much of a toss up of who I couldn’t stand more, Susan Sarandon or Rosanne Barr…now, I’d have real hard trying to decide on who I’d like to DIAF most…ugh
VOR
@Ruckus: I’m about 40% through the Wolff book. It confirms a lot of stuff I suspected but not many surprises so far beyond the published excerpts. The one thing which stands out is that Trump is much worse than imagined. And everyone knew it long before he took office.
mai naem mobile
@Quinerly: she probably fluttered her eyelashes and told Two Scoops Donnie that that mean old Wolfman had her confused with Tiffany. That Tiffany is a disrespectful child and should be taken off the will immediately,dadddeeee!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@VOR:
Yup, years before.
Major Major Major Major
Wow, the neighborhood dispensary has a line down the street.
Gin & Tonic
@VOR: On Saturday I saw my son, who told me he had a PDF of the book, which his girlfriend’s friends were all sharing. I was smart enough not to ask about provenance, and declined, as I currently have enough reading to do. But it certainly seems to be making the rounds.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: Great. Packing to be gone for 5 weeks to New Mexico. Rushing to finish up the second stage (kitchen) in the Air BnB that I’m putting in the lower level here. St. Louis cold set my contractor friend back a couple of weeks…still pushing to get the cabinets in this week, so my friend (and Ozark Hillbilly’s friend!) can do her mosaic genius on countertops, backsplashes, and accent wall while I’m gone. Electrical and plumbing done.? Thanks for the kind words about Kitty Ivan last week. It was time. He had to be suffering.
lamh36
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: Oh yeah, pot’s legal(for now).
eclare
@lamh36: Yeah, someone I follow on Twitter said she was a POS supporter…I haven’t heard that, but wow.
Gin & Tonic
@lamh36:
Por que no los dos?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Gin & Tonic: It may be from Wikileaks, I’d keep that off any computers you value.
Major Major Major Major
@Gin & Tonic: I think I saw that wikileaks is hosting it. I know I’ve seen my friends who hang in that realm passing it around on FB and Twitter (which I’ve tried reporting, but they have no button for copyright violation)
Quinerly
@mai naem mobile: Third BJ chuckle of the day.
eclare
Wow, so far field goals.
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: this is one of SF’s flagships too (The Apothecarium). I’m gonna stop by tomorrow daytime I think. Our state senator had a little ceremony here when they started selling recreational and basically said Fuck you, Sessions. Big fan of that guy.
chris
@Quinerly: Thomas Farr, a prince among men. /S
Long piece from the SPLC on a man who’s spent his entire life trying to revive Jim Crow, or worse. Disgusting that the Senate would even let him in the building.
Chip Daniels
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Those pics are freaky, like an outtake from The Day After Tomorrow.
Adam L Silverman
@Another Scott: Anything is possible.
Gin & Tonic
@?BillinGlendaleCA: As I said, I declined. And my son’s GF’s friends are non-USians, so relatively unconcerned with US copyright law.
Ruckus
@VOR:
He could not be worse than I imagined. Because I didn’t have to imagine. He has been a disaster of a human for decades and that was well known long before last year. You didn’t have to even be paying a lot of attention.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: Glad to read it. Hope you have a good visit. Have something at El Paragua’s for me.
As for Ivan. I understand completely. I’m the same way with my dogs.
chris
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Wikileaks, or Google, took it down but it’s on the pirate sites now in .epub and .mobi for your convenience.
lamh36
@eclare: I’m not surprised that a real life Roseanne character would be a Trump voter (hello WWC), but the fact thta Rosanne Barr truly is a Trump voter, is enough for me to say FUQ if I watch this BS reboot and it’s seems like an obvious ploy to keep/get White voters..
Quinerly
@chris: Farr is horrible. I’m embarrassed for my birth state. Trump goes out of his way to pick the absolute most horrible candidates for these lifetime appointments. There will be a special place in Hell for McConnell. He could curb some of this. Of course, he won’t.
p.a.
@?BillinGlendaleCA: My stock response to any Trumpist defense about their scumbag leader is four words: Central Park Five muthafucka.
Vor
@Ruckus: yes, I agree. And yet the repitiion of EVERYONE knowing it and not saying the Emporer has no clothes is worse than imagined. Btw, I paid for the Kindle edition.
tobie
@chris: Susan Collins will furrow her brow and talk about her concern and then cast a vote for this pig.
lamh36
@Gin & Tonic: Both is Good!
lamh36
Yesss!!! Someone finally gets it!
eclare
@lamh36: Fuck, that did it for me. And I loved her show in the 90’s. How Sara Gilbert can sign on to this, how anyone can sign on to this, is beyond me.
lamh36
Of course he was talking down to her…fuq Rick and his bullshit you took it the wrong way bullshit comment after Angela Rye served his condescending ass.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Everyone who has ever tried a ratings or box office play to get racist white people has discovered that there are no longer enough of them to make your show or movie a hit. So at least you’ll have the comfort of knowing that the revival will be a disastrous flop.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: The President isn’t picking them. They are be picked by Don McGahn and the non-lawyer who runs the Federalist Society.
Mnemosyne
@Gin & Tonic:
I would be concerned with malware coming from Russian sources, but maybe it’s me.
chris
I just looked up the book on amazon.ca. Kindle is available but the physical book “Usually ships within 1 to 2 months.” Pirates are going to be busy.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
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Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: lamh36/Baud 2020!: Making Cute Niece Pictures Great Again. And Baud…
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: I’ll make at least one visit to Espanola just for El Paragua’s. Didn’t make it there last year. A little inconvenient for me this year…I’m in a casita in Bernalillo for 4 weeks. But I adore their food…and that great tree growing in the bar area?. Changed it up from staying in Santa Fe and taking a totally different southern route out. Got a wonderful email from a commenter from Las Cruces with detailed suggestions.. I’m in Ruidoso, Las Cruces, and TorC a total of 5 nights before getting to Bernalillo. Also, hope to get over to Little Vegas…want to check out the construction on the old Castaneda Hotel. Harvey Hotels and memorabilia have become a bit of a hobby for me.? I try to get over to the original Las Vegas every other trip. Love the architecture for a bit of a change. Your old stomping grounds, right?
Major Major Major Major
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): “hopefully”
eclare
Yay! Georgia Bulldogs!
Adam L Silverman
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): This is Mattis and McMaster placating the President. It has already been reported that whenever the DPRK comes up the President’s response is to state he wants to militarily attack them. What is going to happen here is that they will pull the contingency planning and the sequels that are constantly updated by the military planners, distill it down to a few bullet points and some graphics, including the huge number of casualties and KIAs when Kim counterstrikes Seoul, various parts of Japan, Guam, and possibly Hawaii and Alaska, and use that to explain why the results of the counterstrikes would require all out war. Therefore a limited strike not leading to a war can’t work.
Chet Murthy
@Gin & Tonic: Uh, if you (and he) feel like sharing, care to tell us old codgers the general “generation” in which your son and his GF fall? Just so we can get a sense for what the youngs are up to? Full disclosure: I’m 53. So per (I forget whom), I can no longer run for preznit. Gotta leave to the youngs …..
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: We used to have our place in the mountains (Pendaries) outside of Las Vegas. Make sure you hit the Spic and Span while you’re there. Amazing food. And the pastries are excellent too!
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: Gawd no!!!
This song would be in my mind the whole time, waiting for the Oppo Research to drop…lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94yWGkoA6o
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: they (the North Koreans) are relatively rational actors, but you’re right – any attack on them, and they’ll go all in, and then we’re looking at millions dead.
It’ll be unthinkable until it happens.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Adam L Silverman: Does this mean to say DPRK lacks the capacity to deliver nukes to either seaboard? Still though: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU—
Jeffro
@eclare: do I deliver or what? I’ve been rooting hard for Alabama this whole first half ?
Send funds quickly, GA fans, or I start rooting for your Dawgs!!
Villago Delenda Est
@Major Major Major Major: This in CA? In Track Town USA we’ve got a dispensary every other block (or so it seems) so there are seldom any lines…
Ken
@Adam L Silverman: And what do Mattis and McMaster do when Trump responds, “No! Do what I say or I’ll fire you!”
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: Yep. I kinda mispoke and was generalizing by saying Trump is doing the picking. He’s eating cheeseburgers in bed while McGahn is picking. I guess I should read up on McGahn…who recommended him to Trump? Do we know how Trump got him?
Villago Delenda Est
@Adam L Silverman: Exactly. There is no such fucking thing as a “limited strike” against a nuclear armed power. Which is exactly why NK wanted nukes in the first place. It’s why Iran wants nukes.
Villago Delenda Est
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): The NKs can deliver a strike or two on Honshu. That should be enough of a deterrent for anyone sane.
Of course, we’re dealing with, like, a stable genius here…
Viva BrisVegas
More like “Cui bonobo” (Who flings shit furthest?).
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman:Love Charlie’s Spic and Span. I have a fondness for LV. Have actually spent 4 nights there in the Plaza Hotel (Poco’s first elevator ride!) A highlight a few years ago was parking behind all the pickups side of the road in Montezuma at the Armand Hammer World College and hopping in those hot springs and relaxing with those pickup driving locals…literally side of the road. It was Poco’s first NM trip…he looked on from the car. I’m pretty sure he thought I was crazy. My favorite LV restaurant is Il Fidel, down by the Castaneda and the Amtrak station. A little upscale. Black linen tablecloths.❤
Villago Delenda Est
@Ken: I guess they fall on their swords at that point.
Or the Secret Service does something unprecedented in all of US history.
eclare
@Quinerly: Didn’t Sessions recommend him? Nope, warning, Nina.
chris
@Quinerly: See also: The Federalist Society and Leonard Leo. Very low digit number for the tumbrel ride.
Adam L Silverman
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I don’t know. I know what they claim. And I know what the proliferation folks say. I think that we’re unlikely to really know until they actually try. I think what you’re more likely to see is conventional responses. But they have the capacity to kill and wound a lot of people – 100s of thousands to millions – just through the conventional responses. And some of those responses will include American targets and ROK and Japanese targets we’re required by treaty to respond if hit.
Adam L Silverman
@Ken: I don’t know. I know what I think they’ll do, but I can’t prove it and we won’t know until/unless it happens.
Calouste
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): There are pictures of what people think is a North Korean missile capable submarine. Whether it is nuke capable wasn’t clear.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: I don’t know who recommended him.
eclare
What is it with the Rolling Stones songs? First the POS campaign, and now this game….
Jeffro
And then sometimes I realize that here we are less than a year into this abomination of a presidency and the only thing the Press can talk about is the presidents mental incapacity and the Russia investigations…
… so maybe this isn’t the worst possible timeline after all ?
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
No, the classic Roseanne Connor would not have been a Trump voter because she was smart and had a heart. This is BS. Just a gimmick.
Gin & Tonic
@Chet Murthy: His 31st birthday was just the other day; his GF’s 31st is coming up in March. They (and all their friends) are urbanites, what you might call rootless cosmopolitans. The kind of people who do not own lawnmowers.
eclare
@zhena gogolia: I remember the episode in the season where John Goodman lost his shop where she berated a politician, advocating for union jobs, not scab jobs.
Mnemosyne
@Gin & Tonic:
I don’t own a lawnmower and I’m 48 years old.
My brother doesn’t own one either and he’s 54.
Major Major Major Major
@Villago Delenda Est: Yeah, in San Francisco. The city was a little slow to get the licenses all sorted out, so this is one of their first days selling recreational.
Quinerly
@chris: The Federalist Society has been around awhile. Baby chapters at most law schools…their goal for years has been to pack the judiciary. The liberal counterpart…Constitutional Society was late to the game. Honestly, I don’t think it was even around when I came through law school in the ’80’s. Trump’s legacy will be the courts. That’s why we have to take back the Senate to stop these confirmations. These are lifetime appointments.
randy khan
@lamh36:
Well, two out of three ain’t bad.
While I’m actually hoping that Oprah doesn’t run, I don’t have much question that Barr would be better than the other two.
Gin & Tonic
@Mnemosyne: Buncha commies.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I should be alarmed as hell by the link, and I am, but I can’t get past what you actually put in that post. Is that a mix of random Greek and Cyrillic letters and random other characters? How did you input them? This is distracting me to a degree I find impossible to explain.
Villago Delenda Est
@Quinerly: As far as I am concerned, if you’re a member of the Federalist Society, if you take the oath of office, you’re conducting a purpose of evasion.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: McGahn’s Wiki page is worth a look. Suddenly that piece of this is all clear.
chris
@Quinerly:
Yes, and AFAIK there’s almost no hope of removing a sitting judge short of impeachment and the bar is set very high.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: Okay, good to know.
Ladyraxterinok
@Quinerly: @gene108: Like 1800s British aristocrat visits to gape at the crazies in Bedlam.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: I have never owned a lawnmower. As far as I know.
Quinerly
@chris: Lifetime appointments of 30 something year olds (ok, not all, but many). The good news of today is RBG has hired her clerks through 2020. She’s signaling that she is planning to outlast Trump.?
Quinerly
@Ladyraxterinok: I caught a snippet of a psychiatrist on MSNBC early evening. He said the mentally ill are offended by being compared to Trump.
efgoldman
@zhena gogolia:
Archie Bunker was a racist white resentment Nixon voter; Carroll O’Connor was everything but.
Actors act; it ‘s what they get paid to do.
chris
@Quinerly: Brava RBG!
Omnes Omnibus
@Quinerly: Damn, I’ve still not managed to get the offer.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@(((CassandraLeo))): Language option on the phone; I have Greek, Russian and Ukrainian currently.
Matt McIrvin
@Jeffro: I’ve kept expecting the turn to happen where all public criticism of Trump just… disappears. I thought it might come on Inauguration Day. And there have been worrying signs of mainstream TV news or the NYT normalizing him sometimes (“Trump became President today”, Haberman…), but I haven’t seen that turn.
Omnes Omnibus
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): So why chose to use something that is annoying and uncommunicative?
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
My best friend from high school married the heir to the Fred Harvey chain. Right after their wedding in 1966, they moved to Santa Fe where he was general manager of La Fonda.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: When my Dad was doing his masters at Highlands University in Las Vegas and my grandparents would come to visit, my grandmother would insist they stay in Santa Fe at the La Fonda.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
I have never been there. From everything I’ve heard and read, it must be quite a place.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne: @Adam L Silverman: Must read: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0553383485/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1515470588&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=fred+harvey+books&dpPl=1&dpID=51KlZ1zxihL&ref=plSrch
I’m also learning about Fred Harvey jewelry. Kinda slow go. I have picked up some neat finds from St. Louis and NC pawn shops. Kids and grandkids cleaning out drawers and dumping vacation purchases from the 1940’s-1960’s. Snagged a sandcast silver and turquoise bracelet from Harvey, 1940’s. St. Louis pawn shop didn’t have a clue what they had.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: @SiubhanDuinne: Love La Fonda! Change of ownership in the last 2-3 years. Quite a few upgrades. The guy who brought back La Posada in Winslow bought a lot of the furniture out of La Fonda for his La Castaneda he is doing by the tracks in Little Vegas.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: It is. Last time I was in Santa Fe they were doing refitting work on it.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: About time someone did something proper with the La Castaneda. Have a very enjoyable and safe trip.
J R in WV
@p.a.:
Quoted for truth!!! And Well Said!
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
@Adam L Silverman:
I have friends who live in Santa Fe, and they have repeatedly told me that if I ever come out to visit them, they will treat me to lunch at La Fonda :-)
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne: Great restaurant, beautiful restaurant. Always my first lunch when I arrive in SF. Fabulous sangria.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Then drive the 40 minutes to Espanol and have dinner at El Paragua.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman:Thanks. Interesting on line stuff about La Castaneda. I’ve been following the construction. Same guy out of Winslow also bought The Plaza in LV.
J R in WV
@Adam L Silverman:
Just north of Las Vegas NM on I-25 is where the F-350 got rolled and totaled. The police were very helpful, local EMTs heading to a ski resort were at the truck within 90 seconds. I had some glass cuts on my hands, otherwise just looking at our eyes, which were mostly OK.
I had a mild concussion (again), but there’s no treatment for that. So I got a state policeman to take me and the dogs to a vet, along with our two little knapsacks of daily stuff and meds, rounded up a rental car, got M out of the hospital where they took her for observation.
Everyone was really nice, but we didn’t see the old town at all. Too much else on our minds. The next day our friend in Pueblo CO came down with a rental truck and we gathered up everything from the wrecked truck we could.
@Quinerly: I was planning to be in AZ from later in Jan until end of March, but then we got invited to go to Baja California on a Nat Geographic cruise to see whales and snorkel reefs and with sea lions. So no AZ this winter. Maybe we can do a day at a ruin some time. Or hike a ridge.
Have fun, take care, keep in touch!! ;-)
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
Book sounds very interesting. Thanks for the recommendation!
@Adam L Silverman:
Restaurant sounds very tasty. Thanks for the recommendation!
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
Mmmm, sangria!
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: They did a nice job with the plaza. He refitted that one a while back. The restaurant in The Plaza was pretty good last time I was there too.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: And a little snack along the way at El Parasol in Pojoaque!?
J R in WV
@Mnemosyne: I’m 67 with a house on 100 acres and haven’t had a lawnmower in years. I do have a diesel tractor and a 60 inch bush-hog, tho… not the same thing at all. Mowing the edges of the roads and the bottoms. Not so much brush any more, we’ve let the hilltop and ridges pastures grow up. Not gonna have livestock any more. Traveling instead.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: They had a Cuban chef there for a bit. He had owned a restaurant out on Highway 14 outside of SF, near San Marcos. Just read on line a chef associated with The Range (Bernalillo and Albuquerque) coming over to LV to manage the restaurants in both the Plaza and La Castaneda.
Quinerly
@J R in WV: Thanks! I’ll be making my trek through Charleston, W VA to NC in May. I quit driving it straight through about 10 years ago. My overnight stop 8 times a year for the past 10 years has been Charleston.
Adam L Silverman
@J R in WV: I know exactly where you’re talking about. Glad no one was seriously hurt.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne: The book is great. A part of history that I never got. You would probably really like it given you have that friend/Harvey connection.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: Of course.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman:I’m a foodie (or as I say, “a good eater.”) I’m very lucky that I come from little people with high metabolisms.?
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: Cool. I haven’t been back to Las Vegas since 2006. Mom sold our place while I was deployed in Iraq. She wouldn’t go out there without someone since she and Dad had built it for retirement use and with him dead. And since I had been the one using it, but with the change in career that wasn’t really going to happen as much anymore it made sense to sell it. I was in Santa Fe in 2009 for a conference.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: I hate you…
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: Join the club. It was formed today.?
CarolPW
@Quinerly: You were just expressing something more than one of us have thought.
Omnes Omnibus
@Quinerly: My ex was like a hummingbird. She ate as much as I did, but was 10″ shorter and 75 pounds lighter. Annoying as fuck in retrospect.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: Good stuff happening in LV. The guy from Winslow is sinking millions in the town. He and his wife almost single handedly brought back Winslow. His last name is Affeldt (sp??). Wife is a wonderful artist named Tina Mion. They met on a peace march across Russia in the late 1980’s. Fascinating couple.
Quinerly
@CarolPW: It got out of hand. Usually stuff like that doesn’t bug me and things do get lost with the back and forth. Sometimes a person just hits a limit on hearing the same shit. In related news, I haven’t had the heart to tell Poco his campaign is over. I’m going to wait until he is involved in some exotic high desert sniffing. He won’t be as hurt.? Distraction. Thanks for your kind words. Have a nice week.
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: Good, provided he hires and employs the locals. The town deserves better than to just limp along dying a but every generation.
Quinerly
@Adam L Silverman: Hiring locals is his MO. He wasn’t a native of Winslow (and is rather young, West Coast originally, I think). He was so popular in Winslow, I think they made him mayor at some point. I’m pulling from memory. Poco and I stayed in the FDR Room at his Winslow La Posada on my 56th birthday last year. And, yes, we also stood on the corner.? (with a busload of Japanese Route 66 freaks? )
Adam L Silverman
@Quinerly: Excellent to hear.
And sounds like fun.