A moment of zen (with crap camera work):
Just a blue dragonfly going for a boat ride. pic.twitter.com/NQl8jkCFkL
— Betty Cracker (@bettycrackerfl) September 13, 2019
What are y’all up to this evening?
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A moment of zen (with crap camera work):
Just a blue dragonfly going for a boat ride. pic.twitter.com/NQl8jkCFkL
— Betty Cracker (@bettycrackerfl) September 13, 2019
What are y’all up to this evening?
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JPL
Dragonflies are really pretty and fascinating to watch. Thanks Betty, I really needed that.
Humdog
Nature scenes restore the soul. You are fortunate to be surrounded by wild beauty, Betty.
debbie
Most summers, dragonflies mistake my silver Civic for a small pond. They never seem to figure it out.
bbleh
Hey, end of a long day, going to visit that special friend for a nice relaxing evening, who wants to fly across all that stupid water? I mean, not like you don’t put in a hard day’s work, amirite? And not like there’s a posted fare for insects. So it’s all good.
Jay Noble
Anyone catch this bankrobbery story? https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/FBI-Investigates-Millions-Direct-Deposit-Pay-Vanishes-560210061.html
smintheus
If I had a friend or two in manufacturing, I’d be placing an order for 10s of thousands of blaze orange Ivanka Compasses, designed with a pointer in the form of a teeny tiny little hand that would spin crazily in bright light. And I’d be a little richer by next Friday.
C Stars
What would happen if you were to just skim your toes in the water? Would a gator chomp them? Where do you go to swim?
It’s hot here in CA, around 92. Never used to get this hot right on the coast (hence, no AC). Was planning to bake an apple pie with the kiddos tonight but there’s no way I’m running the oven for an hour. My relatives in Phoenix (outside temp 106F) are probably relaxing in their 62F McMansion right now. Weird times.
The apples are from a friend’s tree and kinda rotten and wormy, and we’ve been storing them for about a week, so I’m not sure if I should pare them now and cook with them tomorrow, when it’s supposed to be cooler. Won’t they turn brown?
smintheus
@debbie: This one seemed to figure out a way to hitch a ride across an actual pond.
opiejeanne
Very Calming
We’re driving south on I-5 to SoCal to meet our grand nephew, Lorenzo. He’s about 6 months old. His parents live in Entebbe, working for the UN Africa mission.
he was born in Italy, where his daddy grew up.
Then we’re spending 4 nights at Newport Beach.
Right now we’re north of Sacramento and I can only assume it’s because of the idiot in the White House that farmers here are burning the rice fields. They stopped doing that in the 90s because it’s habitat for many birds and other creatures. The smell is sickening.
spudgun
I am really, REALLY not a fan of insects in general, but dragonflies are one of the few exceptions. I love dragonflies, and I’ve never seen a blue one before – just beautiful.
Thanks, BC.
SiubhanDuinne
It’s amazing how they can stay attached, even when the boat picks up a bit of speed. You’d think the breeze would blow him right off, but no, he’s plenty comfortable where he is, TYVM.
Reminds me of a day, decades ago now, when a large grasshopper had taken up residence on the windshield of my car in a grubby, soulless underground parking garage in downtown Atlanta. I figured the minute I picked up any speed on the commute home he’d be gone, but in fact he stayed there for the entire 20+ miles. When I got home, I plucked him carefully off the car. He nibbled my finger for a couple of minutes, jumped off, and disappeared in the grass.
Jay
@C Stars:
Lemon juice will keep them from turning brown.
CaseyL
Dragonfly, hitchin’ a ride.
“Go Craaaacker, and leave the driving to us!”
?BillinGlendaleCA
Got my windshield replaced. It had a small nick in it when I bought it that I decided to “fix” that morphed into a series of cracks on the passenger side. A couple of weeks ago as we were headed to The Huntington, the kid noticed more cracks that extended to the driver’s side. Got a good deal on the replacement.
Speaking of the youngin’, per her IG she’s arrived in Bali with her bff(well she wrote out “Bali” in the sand and put her sandles below it and took a pic, could be anywhere).
JPL
@opiejeanne: Nothing like a baby to warm your soul. Enjoy.
Mary G
The sound of the water in that video is very soothing.
Hungry Joe
Some (a few? One or two?) of you may remember my dog-attack story from late last year: An off-leash dog mauled my doggie Alice while we were on a walk. Not too horrible, but a $340 vet bill, which the attacking dog’s owner paid. Two months later it attacked us again; I was on the lookout, but it came from around a corner and hit us from behind. I was badly bitten in one hand — bite went to the bone, barely missed a key nerve — and Alice looked like someone had taken a machete to her. One-handed, I’d been unable to pull the dog off Alice; a young man who happened to be driving by leaped out of his car and saved her life. Vet and medical bills — mostly vet — came to almost $5,000. Alice suffered horribly for about two weeks, but she has recovered completely and is her old goofball self. I was told I might never regain full movement of my left thumb but I, too, am back to 100%, and am once again my old grouchy self.
Anyway, with the help of a personal injury lawyer we settled a couple of weeks ago. Got reimbursed for vet and medical bills, lawyer took his (well-earned) 1/3, and we ended up with a reward (high four figures) for pain and suffering — which, trust me, there was plenty of. Still, I feel a little odd about cashing in, as it were, on the nightmarish experience. I realize there’s no other way for us to be compensated or for the owner to be punished, but still …
For the record: Alice is scoring some VERY high-end treats. And That Dog is still out there. We now avoid that part of the neighborhood, and I carry pepper spray and look over my shoulder a lot.
divF
Also in NorCal in unaccustomed 90+ degree heat. We have a window AC unit in our bedroom for the few weeks each year we get this, just for sleeping purposes.
Just went to the market, got end-of-season dry-farmed tomatoes and corn. I think I can stand the broiler being on long enough to cook a steak. Then fresh fruit (peaches, plums, or strawberries) for dessert.
ETA: @Hungry Joe: – I’m glad it worked out for Alice, and minimal damage for you.
smintheus
This evening I discovered a quick and easy fix to make my Firefox browser open/close much more quickly and improve download speeds by a lot. I always thought a lot of the problem was with the modem or my ISP.
mrmoshpotato
@Jay Noble: Vanished, eh? Slap that headline writer.
Long gone are the “We’re bustin’ outta here, ya see?” days.
smintheus
@Hungry Joe: I remember your story, glad to hear you and Alice recovered so well from the attack. Even better that you forced the owner to pay up; nothing to be ashamed of holding that idiot accountable for all our sakes.
Chris T.
@Hungry Joe: You’ll probably find, as you age, that the bitten hand spot has mysterious extra aches and stuff.
Jackie
@SiubhanDuinne: I had same experience with a grasshopper who attached itself to my car antenna at a rest stop in eastern Wa and hung on for almost 80 miles at 70 mph. Didn’t let go until I parked at my parents.
Cacti
@Hungry Joe:
Get a can of bear spray. It’s stronger.
smintheus
Dragonflies were in the news in the midwest this week. Also, on radar.
https://twitter.com/NWSCLE/status/1171553273322463232
divF
@divF: Also, going to be watching the A’s game starting in a few minutes. They have some hot young talent, are contending for a wild card slot, and just took three games out of four in Houston. Even if they don’t make the postseason this year, I think they might give the Astros a run for their money for the division next year.
MomSense
Helped kid move to a new apartment. Stopping for a pizza break.
Hungry Joe
@smintheus: Well, it was the owner’s insurance company that paid up. We’re hoping they threaten to cancel the policy unless they get rid of the dog, but that’s a long shot — those people are crazy-ass hoarders, house and yard full of junk, IMPEACH OBUMMER and LOCK HER UP stickers on their truck. They’d probably keep the dog and go without insurance.
TheOtherHank
My Friday evening plan is to watch my son perform in the field show with his high school marching band. And as an added bonus there will be a bit of football before and after the performance. It’s so nice of the football team to come to the marching band shows.
smintheus
@Hungry Joe: The vicious dog hasn’t been put down?!
RedDirtGirl
Whelp, my little chest cold wasn’t getting better after 10 days. Turns out it’s bronchitis. Yay me. And I’m having a root canal next week. So things are swell, thanks.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Hungry Joe: We had our girls out for their evening walk about a month ago along some storage units and out popped a pit bull, Madame picked up the yorkiepom and I kept the cocker moving fast. My neighbor called animal control, they came out and took a report. Guy no longer has that storage unit.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@RedDirtGirl: Eh, sounds swell. //
(Hope ya feel better.)
Mary G
OK. Can’t embed on this phone but the cat video on this tweet is grade A:
https://twitter.com/AwwwwCats/status/1172493740361039874?s=19
Hungry Joe
@smintheus: Although that dog has since attacked another dog, I am the only human it has injured — and San Diego County only keeps track of that. Unless it bites another person within a 24-month period, there’s nothing to be done.
RedDirtGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks, Bill!
SiubhanDuinne
@Jackie:
You just have to hope they didn’t leave loving families/dependent children behind.
zhena gogolia
@Mary G:
That’s Maru and Hana! They’re famous!
waysel
Is that an electric trolling motor sound as the video progresses?
mrmoshpotato
@RedDirtGirl: Mmmmm Novocaine. Which tooth?
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Why do you think they were making a break for it?
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: When I was 5 I used to put grasshoppers in the basket of my bicycle and take them for rides. b I felt sorry for them because they had to jump everywhere they went and I was certain they were very tired.
I was also certain that the moon was following me because it was always right above me any time I walked around at night.
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: Five cm? F this!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: You know it’s a full moon tonight.
Anotherlurker
@Cacti: A can of Hornet Spray also works well. A powerful stream of burning hurt for the attacker.
It won’t kill, but it will make the attacker wish they were dead.
WaterGirl
@Hungry Joe: So glad to hear of the full recoveries! Why the hell is that dog allowed to still run free?????
RedDirtGirl
@mrmoshpotato: back left ?. That’s not too painful, but my tongue is shredded from the two hours between seeing the dentist for a temporary solution, and going back to have her grind down the jagged edge of the broken tooth. Didn’t notice it until the Novocain wore off.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Whatever happened to “Patience, grasshopper”?
Hungry Joe
@Anotherlurker: A can that sprays hornets?!!! THAT’S what I need. Where can I get one?
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Alas, I am not walking around; I am sitting in my rocking swivel chair on my porch, enjoying the lovely evening. If the moon is still stalking me, I’m sure it knows exactly where I am, even with the roof of my porch over my head.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
It’s ridiculous how happy this little anecdote makes me.
There’s a full moon tonight (the traditional Harvest Moon, I believe).
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: It’s only a little full moon tonight(the moon is at one of it’s furthest points in it’s orbit around earth).
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes, it’s the Harvest Moon, but tiny. I’m calling it the Trump Moon.
JMG
It’s about 60, clear and cool in Cape Cod with the crickets upping their pace considerably. Just came back from watching the full moon over the ocean. Most restorative.
Gin & Tonic
The dear wife’s body is still on Yurpean time, so she’s asleep; I think I’ll have a glass of wine and read a book.
And my son, who was trying to cheapskate his way to Yurp and back, has concluded “do not fly Norwegian Air, ever.” It’s cheap for a reason.
mrmoshpotato
@Hungry Joe: LOL
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: @?BillinGlendaleCA: Wait, it can’t be a harvest moon AND only a little full moon tonight. So which one of you is lying to me? :-)
P.S. I’m glad you liked my little story.
mrmoshpotato
@Gin & Tonic:
We’re losing altitude! Pedal faster!
Jackie
@SiubhanDuinne: My kids – 8 and 6 yr olds had that concern lol
Betty Cracker
@C Stars: Cows kill more people than gators, so I don’t worry about them much, except to keep my dogs safe. That said, I only swim in the springs, which are so clear you can see that there are no gators (or snakes).
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: Here’s a description of the lunacy.
Hungry Joe
@WaterGirl: See comment #35.
Betty Cracker
@Hungry Joe: Glad you and Alice are mostly recovered. Unbelievable that those jerks are allowed to let a vicious dog roam.
smintheus
@Gin & Tonic: The cheap way is to go off season. We found RT flights on Lufthansa to Rome for less than $300.
Cacti
@Betty Cracker:
Or bull sharks.
TenguPhule
Sure why not. //s
TenguPhule
@RedDirtGirl:
Not as swollen as they’re gonna be.
….I’ll see myself out now.
TenguPhule
@mrmoshpotato:
“The duct tape on the wings is peeling off!”
Sab
@MomSense: Pizza? What kind of mother are you? I hope you made them eat it with silverware. (Actually good advice. I never burn my mouth with pizza My husband does every time he eats it. Difference is knife and fork.)
Gin & Tonic
@smintheus: When you have to be there at a specific time you don’t get that option.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@smintheus: I was checking flights to Bali yesterday and saw one for $404 r/t. Madame says the kid and her friend got a good deal. It’s about 24 hours total time to fly there(I guess they had about a 4 hour layover in Taipei).
Ohio Mom
@WaterGirl: I liked your idea in the other thread of slicing and dicing the debate videos so the viewer would be able to see everything each candidate said in turn. I wish there was a way to see that. Of course I’d skip over a few of them (Yang and Bernie for starters).
Oops, this is a respite thread.
40 lashes with a wet noodle for me.
TenguPhule
@Sab:
Chicago deep dish?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Sab:
That’s the way Trump eats pizza, I’m sure you won’t make that mistake in the future.
Betty
Pretty bug, bit you do know that dragonflies have a nasty sting, right?
TenguPhule
So the original plan was to make federal executions self sufficient by using confiscated drugs being smuggled from China to to kill Death Row prisoners.
Okay Friday the 13th, you can stop now.
TenguPhule
@Betty:
They can bite, no stings.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ohio Mom:
Nah, just an evening open thread. As far as the 40 lashes…we don’t judge here.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Really? I thought he doesn’t bother with utensils for fast food.
Elizabelle
@Hungry Joe: I’m glad that worked out, and that Alice is back to herself. Resilient little pup.
I have no sympathy for the dog owners. I am glad your lawyer made them pay up. Alice could have been killed.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Only on style and technique. //
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: Trump takes Sarah of the Northwoods for pizza.
MomSense
@Sab:
I’m a fold my slice person. Had Eggplant, tomato, basil, and ricotta. Yum! Kid had mashed potato, bacon, scallion, and chive.
WaterGirl
@Ohio Mom: If others like the idea, maybe we could take up a collection and pay ruemara (or someone else with similar skills if she’s too busy) to do that for any of the candidates any of us take seriously. At that point, is that everybody besides Wang? Of course, you couldn’t pay me enough to watch Bernie’s!
Betty
@TenguPhule: Wasn’t sure if a bite or a sting. Just know it hurts.
WaterGirl
@MomSense: I always thought that if you are able to fold your pizza, it is either not thick enough or not crispy enough.
I thought folding pizza was a NY thing.
CaseyL
Autumn is coming to Seattle on big webbed feet. We’ve had two, TWO, thunderstorms in the last week. No hail storms, at least not yet; usually we get a couple at the hinge between summer and fall.
I am seriously considering moving next year, out of the city, which has simply gotten too big, too congested, too busybusy, and simply has lost all of its charm. The original plan was to wait until I retired, then sell and buy something on the peninsula, or on one of the islands. But my house is appreciating so much so fast I’m tempted to make the jump sooner, before the market crashes, even if I only move up to Everett. (Something with some resale value of its own, so I can still do a post-retirement move.) The realtor I bought my place from is still around, so I sent her an email, and we’ll try to chat this weekend.
smintheus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: That is very inexpensive. Does Bali have a major international airport now?
Years ago when I was hired by a university in Pennsylvania, I walked into my first class, say hello to the only student there (a local high schooler), and immediately think: “Hold on, this girl has to be from Bali.” And she was. Not what I had expected, though.
TenguPhule
@Betty:
They have the insect equivalent of razor blades for mandibles. Which is how they dismember and eat their prey while its still alive.
smintheus
@Gin & Tonic: Youth is wasted on the young. Ought to be wasted on the old, it would be much fairer financially.
Another Scott
@Gin & Tonic: (I’ve probably told this story before.) J took a really cheap flight to Ireland on Aeroflot. Lots of drunk Russian business men (they didn’t serve water, only vodka on the flight). “Why does the floor under my feet feel like it’s on fire?!?!” “What was that loud BANG noise??!?” “What do you mean that my seat is the “No Smoking Section??”
Yeah, when possible we spend a little more these days…
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@smintheus:
I would think so being that the kid flew from Taipei, looks like it’s called Ngurah Rai International Airport.
smintheus
@TenguPhule: So kids weren’t lying when they warned you about swimming with “sewing needles” flitting on the surface of the pond?
Matt McIrvin
In today’s Washington Post, Dana Milbank says Democrats should lie about Trump’s racism, and Kathleen Parker says Democrats should act stupider.
Ohio Mom
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Don’t you remember that was either Ann Landers or Dear Abby’s line.
Elizabelle
That’s a beautiful dragonfly, and I had no idea they could hang on despite wind (grasshoppers too).
The dragonfly reminds me of art nouveau. An exquisite insect.
Jeffro
Interesting…Adam Schiff just sent a subpoena that hints that an IC whistleblower’s complaint was illegally withheld.
Corruption EVERYWHERE with these scum
TenguPhule
@smintheus: Normally they don’t bite unless you manage to piss one off. Kids are experts at that.
C Stars
@Betty Cracker: That seems wise all the same (the clear springs).
ETA: I can believe that…cows can be scary! (And I see a lot more cows than gators in north CA)
TenguPhule
@Matt McIrvin: This is bad comedy.
trollhattan
99 degrees a few days after we had our first sub-80 degree day since May. I want off this ride (and I’m not buying the pics either)
But, Friday!
opiejeanne
@Hungry Joe: my niece and her husband are suing a dog owner’s insurance company whose dog attacked their husky and he was badly bitten while trying to rescue his own dog. He has only 25% of normal strength in one hand and he and his dog needed stitches and some surgery.
The owners claim Danny was bitten by his own dog, but there are witnesses.
There’s talk of a six figure settlement but that isn’t enough for the damage, and definitely not enough if Danny never recovers from the nerve damage, but Danny doesn’t want to sue.
Sab
9 oclock and 82 degrees. Thunderstorm warnings. My dad’s blind cat is determined to stay on my bed. Okay with me.
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: I wanted to tell you that cyrillic has officially been tested on the upcoming new website. I have no idea what I actually said, but I did post a comment in cyrillic, which successfully saved.
I also made sure that BillinGlendaleCA can still log in with his paw prints. Which he can.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott:
In situations like that, my -ex used to say that’s like saying you are swimming in the non-peeing part of the pool.
WaterGirl
@Jeffro: Thanks for mentioning Adam Schiff! I used to keep at browser window with his twitter page open so I could see what’s going on every day. I found that was a pretty good way to keep up with what really mattered.
When I got my new laptop last month, I forgot all about that.
Hungry Joe
@WaterGirl: Danny can contact me to talk about the issues if he’s interested. There’s guilt over not protecting your dog, awful nightmares and flashbacks, hesitancy at engaging in litigation, etc. I’m not an expert but I’ve been through it. Click on Hungry Joe for my book’s website and my real name; I’m easy to find from there.
smintheus
@Another Scott: I took a really cheap flight in the ’80s from Rome to NYC on JAT with an overnight in Belgrade. It didn’t catch fire as far as we could tell, but there was an unscheduled stop in a small airport. Seemed like a really precipitous landing, dropping down fast where there was almost no space to maneuver (Sarajevo?). No explanation about where/why/how, but lots of uniformed people screaming orders at us in Serbo-Croatian though they knew we didn’t speak the language. Nearly all passengers were Italian, and it was chaos in the terminal as people couldn’t figure out what to do; no attempt to explain anything or help us. I finally heard a single S-C announcement over the PA system, found a single Yugoslav couple and managed to find a language we both spoke. JAT had announced that we were to pick up our luggage and go to a tiny, unmanned counter around the back of the terminal where we were to board a new plane to Belgrade almost immeditely. That couple and I were the only passengers who knew what to do/where to go!
I found a young Italian woman who seemed less agitated than everyone else, told her the situation, and we fanned out explaining and organizing the passengers (Italians no less!) in lines, getting other passengers to help us to spread the word as quickly as possible, and then brought them all in order to the remote desk in the nick of time so that we weren’t left behind in the middle of who knows where. This Italian women and I became good friends during the entire bizarre journey. She was a student going to WV to study local dialects (because of her interest in Shakespearean English), and a few years later she became a well known TV journalist in Italy. Still has a daily program on RAI.
glory b
Lots if dog talk, so I’ll add this: authorities have recsued approximately 120 dogs from a hoarder outside Pittsburgh. They said there were the bodies of 2 dead ones, and one newborn puppy died shortly after the rescue. A few are emaciated but most seem to be relatively healthy.
We had to put our pup to sleep in July (cancer), a friend of mine said maybe our new one is in this bunch.
The news reporter said they are almost all
identified as Austrian shepard mixes.
Hungry Joe
@glory b: Alice is an Aussie mix! They’re the Best Dogs Ever. (There are a lot of Best Dogs Ever.)
Jay Noble
@mrmoshpotato: When there is relatively so little cash in banks these but those payrolls still have to be met, the robbers adapt
JAFD
@RedDirtGirl: Hope you feel better soon. If you want to call and curse your fate, you have my number.
Anne Laurie
@glory b: In my personal experience, Australian Shepherds (& shepherd-mixes) are the perfect dogs for people who think they’d like a smart, high-energy dog that is just a little less intense than a Border Collie. They still require a lot of exercise, and if you aren’t conscientious about working with them they will find their own entertainment / job, but they’re great with kids & other pets, adaptable, and have a sense of humor. (Which you will need to share… especially when people who don’t know better ask why you ‘cut off that poor dog’s tail!’)
Jay
mrmoshpotato
@TenguPhule: Dragonflies will sew your lips together. (I haven’t thought about that in years!)
Anne Laurie
@Hungry Joe:
Glad you & Alice have been able to get past everything but the nightmares!
Don’t remember your location, but — cruel as this sounds — I hope you looped your local Animal Control in on that paperwork. You’ve got the paperwork establishing that the other dog is legitimately dangerous, and at the very least, a second attack (not, goddess willing, on Alice) means the owners have to turn the dog over to the authorities. And probably not for re-homing, but it’s the very definition of a public menace right now.
Jay
Anne Laurie
@Hungry Joe:
Here in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts, our mortgage company requires us to have home insurance. And if their insurance company has had to pay out at least once already, they very likely have to pay an extra mandatory rider for dog-bite coverage; the company would’ve let them know that they were on a very short leash.
Jay
Jay
@Anne Laurie:
Here, dependent on Munincipalities, “banned breeds” are subject to rules and regulations in public, may require HomeOwners insurance. They don’t work.
What does work is that every reported attack on a pet or human, requires that the dog be surrendered for evaluation. If the dog passes, ( training, agression, etc), that’s one strike. There is no second strike.
Ohio Mom
@Hungry Joe: Ypu were in Cincinnati this summer! We would have had s meet-up for you if we’d known!
You have a very charming website.
WaterGirl
@opiejeanne: Check out the reply to me at #106 – I think Hungry Joe meant to direct that to you.
Gary K
I think it’s a Blue Dasher. Check out page 55 of this field guide.
RedDirtGirl
@JAFD: Thanks, that’s nice of you!
Chris Johnson
Evinrude! That dragonfly’s gonna power that boat across the pond :)
Surely somebody else knows about The Rescuers? An even more heartwarming thought than a pretty bug on a boat. A HERO pretty bug powering a boat, I mean leaf.
Hungry Joe
@WaterGirl: Yup.
Hungry Joe
@Ohio Mom: I’ve had coffee/gabfest with hiphop artist in Cincinnati several times (my wife’s family lives in the area, so we visit frequently). Next time: meetup!
evodevo
@Betty: No they don’t – they CAN give you a good bite, though……or was that a joke? Can’t tell…