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You are here: Home / Politics / GOP Death Cult / Late Night Open Thread: The GOP Death Cult’s Marketing Problem

Late Night Open Thread: The GOP Death Cult’s Marketing Problem

by Anne Laurie|  May 11, 20211:03 am| 43 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Trumpery, Schadenfreude

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So, a loser, basically. https://t.co/gzwMoz4Dzq

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@TheRealHoarse) May 7, 2021


One can only wish TFG, and his minions, embrace all the anchors as they flail…

A buried lede here: internal GOP polling in battleground districts shows that Trump's unfavorables exceed his favorables – and that he polls more negatively than Biden, Harris, the COVID stimulus bill, & the jobs/infrastructure package. https://t.co/C56ucQgw8F

— Christopher Federico (@ChrisPolPsych) May 8, 2021

However clear it might be you’re going to fail with the old product, you’ll fail even faster if the existing customers depart before the rebrand finds its legs.

— Julian Sanchez (@normative) May 8, 2021

Sorry, I was unclear: I meant this is a familiar reason businesses sometimes fail. They feel they can’t risk alienating current customers, even if they know the current model is losing money.

— Julian Sanchez (@normative) May 8, 2021

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  1. 1.

    rikyrah

    May 11, 2021 at 1:06 am

    They want the Orange Savior. They can have him

  2. 2.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 11, 2021 at 1:08 am

    dining to standing applause

    Great job drowning that piece of burnt-ass steak in ketchup before shoving it into your resting-butthole mouth! Bravo!

  3. 3.

    HumboldtBlue

    May 11, 2021 at 1:11 am

    Sometimes you listen to The Cynics.

    This website still loads like molasses.

  4. 4.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    May 11, 2021 at 1:21 am

    Julian Sanchez via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    This is sort of familiar from the business world. Failing firm has has an outdated, nonviable product/brand that the existing customer base is nevertheless attached to. …

    So … the GOP is joining the ranks of Kodak, Blockbuster, and Tower Records?

  5. 5.

    NotMax

    May 11, 2021 at 1:29 am

    Drawing a blank on who it was asking for a reminder on when arguably the best boxing movie ever, The Set-up, comes around on TCM. This Saturday, the 16th, at noon Eastern time.

    Keep an eye open for the clock in the street shots. The elapsed time it takes for the story to unfold is the same as the running length of the film, one of the first uses of ‘real time’ as a device in movies (pre-dates High Noon by three years).

  6. 6.

    The Pale Scot

    May 11, 2021 at 1:37 am

    Sounds like WKRP S01E02,

    a group of elderly listeners invades the station protesting the removal of their favorite music.

    We Want Racism…..We Want Racism…….We Want Racism

    BOOGERRRRRR!!!

  7. 7.

    HumboldtBlue

    May 11, 2021 at 1:48 am

    As is their wont, The Onion nails it.

    Experts Say Best Depression Treatment Remains Having Coal-Covered Street Urchins Sing About Dancing Troubles Away

  8. 8.

    NotMax

    May 11, 2021 at 1:54 am

    @NotMax

    D’oh. This Saturday, the 15th.

    (looks for wet noodles for flagellation)

  9. 9.

    Mike in NC

    May 11, 2021 at 1:56 am

    Rooting here for serious injuries.

  10. 10.

    HumboldtBlue

    May 11, 2021 at 2:11 am

    Shadow and lights, shade and Rick James.

    OK

  11. 11.

    MattF

    May 11, 2021 at 2:12 am

    Schadenfreude.

  12. 12.

    eclare

    May 11, 2021 at 2:18 am

    @HumboldtBlue:  That is wild!

  13. 13.

    Mary G

    May 11, 2021 at 2:19 am

    LA Times has an article today about Republican schisms in Texas between the old Chamber of Commerce business types and the new breed of crazies.

    Andrews and her friend Lee Jenkins, a hairstylist, said they joined the crowd “storming the Capitol” but insisted most protesters were peaceful and didn’t deserve to be charged. The women said they had considered entering the building too, but decided not to because they feared the tear gas would aggravate Jenkins’ asthma.

    After they returned to Texas, Jenkins’ Twitter account was removed. FBI agents interviewed Andrews at her home several times, she said. Neither woman was charged.

    Photos Andrews had posted online were circulated. Although Jenkins — whose business had just reopened after the pandemic lockdown — lost some liberal clients, she said she gained conservative ones, as did Andrews, who works as a dominatrix. (Bold by me)

    She’s married with three kids and her husband was at the Capitol with them, though without any TFG regalia.

  14. 14.

    Ruckus

    May 11, 2021 at 2:32 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche:

    It’s far worse than Kodak, Blockbuster and Tower Records.

    Those companies actually delivered product that was viable, at least until new came along and replaced it. shitforbrains was never a viable product. He was a disaster of epic proportions. In a list of the 5 worst presidents, he takes all 5 spots. The previous holder of worst, just got salvation and he didn’t deserve that in any way. He got worst ripped from his cold, dead hands, with gusto, bravado, bullshit, racism and a bit of theft. Prior he was the worst by quite a bit, but shitforbrains out did him so badly, in a race for bad, and now he’s not. If anyone could tell him that he lost worst place to shitforbrains, he would be pissed that dipshit, dumb, worthless, fuck of a human being actually made him look good. He did his worst to be the worst and he got snookered. He’s going to have to be dug up and have his trophy for worst ripped out of his cold dead hands. Oh the shame of losing worst. To shitforbrains.

  15. 15.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 11, 2021 at 2:42 am

    @Ruckus: So as far as TFG goes, I’ll mark you down as “Not a Fan”.

  16. 16.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 11, 2021 at 2:44 am

    @Ruckus:

    In a list of the 5 worst presidents, he takes all 5 spots. 

    Hahaha!  Well put!

  17. 17.

    Poe Larity

    May 11, 2021 at 2:47 am

    If only TFG had been prescient enough to clone JFK Jrs.

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 11, 2021 at 2:47 am

    LOL!

    I wonder if the GOP is having a civil war just so they can put up statues of the losers.— Stephen Colbert (@StephenAtHome) May 11, 2021

  19. 19.

    Redshift

    May 11, 2021 at 2:50 am

    The business analogy isn’t just about TFG, the GOP has been stuck this way through multiple election “post mortems.” They recognize they need to expand their appeal, but that risks losing some of their current base to gain some of the people the base has been encouraged to despise.

    The key point is that it could work, but even if it does, there’s no guarantee the people currently in power will still be around to benefit. Taking a hit for the future good is the party isn’t something most politicians are good at, and especially not the IGMFY crowd. So they double and triple down on voter suppression…

  20. 20.

    opiejeanne

    May 11, 2021 at 3:28 am

    @Ruckus: Are you referring to Andrew Jackson?

  21. 21.

    eclare

    May 11, 2021 at 3:59 am

    @opiejeanne:  Congratulations on the greenhouse!

  22. 22.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    May 11, 2021 at 4:05 am

    “Trump largely spends his days watching cable news, calling allies and his small cadre of remaining political advisers, welcoming Republicans to his private club, dining to standing applause, playing golf and fulminating against the 2020 election results”

    Media spent years telling us he was business man, operating a vast empire. Don’t they feel foolish.

  23. 23.

    opiejeanne

    May 11, 2021 at 4:09 am

    @eclare: Thanks. The walls are up, but only one section of the roof so far, because we are short and old.  We hope to be able to get 3 sections up tomorrow, but this would be a lot easier with one more person.

  24. 24.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    May 11, 2021 at 4:30 am

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    I mean, how is that list any different from any day of his idiot reign?

  25. 25.

    Derelict

    May 11, 2021 at 6:04 am

    The problem, of course, is that the GOP feels it doesn’t really need to care whether people vote for Republicans or not. The new legislation Republican state legislatures are enacting will keep non-GOP faithful from voting AT ALL. And even if the Republican candidate loses, the state legislature can simply declare the vote invalid and install the Republican anyway–all perfectly legal now.

  26. 26.

    Gvg

    May 11, 2021 at 6:30 am

    @Redshift: Because they have been selling racism for quite some time, and because they have repeatedly said they should seek a more diverse base (Hispanics they usually mean), the gop would need to prove by actions over some minimum number of years, before most minorities would consider voting for them again. This means that they would first alienate their most racist base voters, and then wait a long while to see any reward. They made it impossible to pull off by waiting this long to change.

    They can’t change their policy. Anyone who tries, will lose faster than anyone who stays with the sinking ship current policy.

    Some individuals may manage in less racist regions. Specific locals may escape this doom calculation.

  27. 27.

    Booger

    May 11, 2021 at 6:33 am

    @The Pale Scot: …What?

  28. 28.

    Robert Sneddon

    May 11, 2021 at 6:35 am

    I am reminded somewhat of the story and eventual fate of Big Fido, the ruler of the dogs of the city of Ankh-Morpork in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld books.
    Big Fido was the undisputed king of the city’s canine population and then he died (and, in the spirit of Ankh-Morpork an entrepreneur found his body, skinned it and turned into leather). The dogs recovered Big Fido’s collar and it became an object of veneration and worship for a couple of years and then they forgot all about him and why they were worshipping this collar thing.​

  29. 29.

    trnc

    May 11, 2021 at 7:03 am

    @HumboldtBlue: ​
      Good one. I like this, too.
    theonion.com/conservatives-panicking-after-every-member-of-republica-1846860454

  30. 30.

    trnc

    May 11, 2021 at 7:10 am

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: ​
     
    Not to mention, it’s all exactly what he did as president.

  31. 31.

    Uncle Cosmo

    May 11, 2021 at 7:17 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: So … the GOP is joining the ranks of Kodak, Blockbuster, and Tower Records?

    Think Buggy Whip International, LLC**. They’ve already got the buggy part down; now the reality-based electorate is primed to whip their flabby arses over and over again with a clue-by-4.

    ** Lying Liars’ Collective

  32. 32.

    Splitting Image

    May 11, 2021 at 7:49 am

    @Mary G:

    Photos Andrews had posted online were circulated. Although Jenkins — whose business had just reopened after the pandemic lockdown — lost some liberal clients, she said she gained conservative ones, as did Andrews, who works as a dominatrix

    I’d have been surprised by that 20 years or so ago. Having met a fair number of people in the kink scene I can say that I’d be more surprised now if the reactionary assholes in it aren’t a majority. Compared to other subcultures, the kink scene skews older, whiter, wealthier, and closeted. It also seems to be very active on Twitter.

  33. 33.

    Patrianakos

    May 11, 2021 at 7:53 am

    @Ruckus: I hate to ruin a good rant, but W is still alive and painting.

  34. 34.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 11, 2021 at 9:26 am

    This is sort of familiar from the business world. Failing firm has has an outdated, nonviable product/brand that the existing customer base is nevertheless attached to. Change requires definitely alienating existing customers and HOPING you attract more new ones.

    Except all the GOP customers are addicts and will buy what ever shit that has the letter R after it the GOP pushes out.

    The better analogy is a business that outsourced everything, including sales and marketing,  now the there pro is changing the executive staff is finding out their only skill is collecting a paycheck.

  35. 35.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 11, 2021 at 9:30 am

    @Ruckus: What, no love for James Buchanan who killed 10% of the adult male population by letting the Civil War happen, Woodrow Wilson who killed 2% ith his non-response to the Spanish Flue and Andrew Jackson who crashed the economy while murdering native Americans wholesale?  Trump is a bit of failure even at failing.

  36. 36.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 11, 2021 at 9:35 am

    @Splitting Image: Key word is “Dominatrix” as someone whose fantasy is be an assertive personality. as opposed to her clients who very likely are and want some time off, so to say. It’s pretty easy to see someone like that would eat up Trump’s fake Alpha male persona.

  37. 37.

    Lawrence

    May 11, 2021 at 9:57 am

    Interesting that this is the same branding problem that is killing evangelical christianity. But kind of obvious when you consider it’s the same set of customers.

  38. 38.

    Ruckus

    May 11, 2021 at 10:01 am

    @opiejeanne:

    Andrew Johnson.

  39. 39.

    Ruckus

    May 11, 2021 at 10:03 am

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    Media spent years telling us he was business man, operating a vast empire. Don’t they feel foolish.

    Likely they don’t feel foolish.

  40. 40.

    Ruckus

    May 11, 2021 at 10:18 am

    I’m not saying the others mentioned weren’t bad, they were. BAD. I’m saying that shitforbrains was the worst of the lot. The others mentioned did horrible things. And most of them had some small, not quite so horrible bit.

    Name one positive thing that shitforbrains was for or did.

    Name one thing he did that wasn’t horrible and wrong.

    He was bad because he was a racist. So were the others. He was bad because he didn’t want the actual job, he was in it solely for himself. His stupidity and hate got more people killed than the others. That may be the time but that’s the time he lives in. How many of the others were in it solely to save his sorry ass because of all the crap he’s done his entire life?

    How fucked up is it that we can even have a discussion about which asshole has been the worst president and everyone had ample proof that everyone of the examples they give is a valid choice for worst president?

  41. 41.

    Miss Bianca

    May 11, 2021 at 10:29 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: That was going to be my question.

  42. 42.

    evodevo

    May 11, 2021 at 11:40 am

    @Lawrence: Yep…their solution to everything is to double-down, ignore reality and Jeezus harder…

  43. 43.

    The Pale Scot

    May 11, 2021 at 11:40 am

    @Booger:

    Excuse me, I misspoke. I meant
    “BOOOOOOGAAHH!!!!”

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