Local fishwrap (which is Lord Loves Me Some Ducks! central) is of course devoting massive column inches to the LSU/UofO game, especially all those green and yellow clad fans who have traveled to the Big D to see the game live in the stadium of the most pretentious NFL franchise, ever.
2.
The Dangerman
I’ve lost count; has Oregon or LSU had the most players arrested recently?
Between that and Musberger, I guess I’m watching BSU and UG.
@efgoldman: I was out doing errands and already hearing traffic reports and parking lot space updates for the Colorado-UH game at 1:15pm. The game starts at 4:15 local.
The problem with a 16 team league, as geographically disperse as one that reaches half way across the friggin’ continent, is that it, frankly, dilutes the brand. Of course, I remember when it was the Pac-8, and you had to have ocean front views from your state to be in it. How often will even the Pac-12 teams play each other? There are some things that can’t be changed…Oregon will always have Oregon State, Washington State, and Washington on its schedule. Taking out the CA and AZ schools for these in the Rockies and even farther east schools is, well, just not very organic.
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Corner Stone
That little #7 for GA is a freakin Tight End??
32.
khead
Y’all better stop blaspheming Uncle Brent.
YOU ARE LOOKING LIVE!
33.
RareSanity
Hooray…college football trash talking thread!
As a guy that played in the (slightly) more sane ACC I love these! Even though I went to Georgia Tech, I was always a UGA football fan. They had Herschel Walker, how could you not be a fan of that guy?
ETA: I grew up in Atlanta, that’s why I was a Georgia fan. Wanted to play at UGA but they don’t have engineering. :-(
So I’ll be the SEC homer…
That being said, Georgia’s helmets are fugly. I like the new uniforms, but those helmets are hideous.
34.
flukebucket
Ga has no offensive line. I can’t remember the last time they did.
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arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity: what is that deal right above the numbers, next to the collar of the jersey?
The problem with a 16 team league, as geographically disperse as one that reaches half way across the friggin’ continent, is that it, frankly, dilutes the brand.
The proposed Pac-16 would span 3 time zones.
Makes sense to me.
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Corner Stone
God in heaven. Herschel Walker.
FTW.
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Dee Loralei
@Villago Delenda Est: Oh I agree. And it’s going to make traveling for the teams and their fans even more difficult. But my guess is it’ll be 4 super-conferences and then 1-A’s. But I’d seriously much rather be in the PAC 100 than in the SEC, I hate the SEC.
And Bebe at the Big12 last year should have secured 2 teams to make up for Neb and Co leaving. But he didn’t. And now we’re stuck with those fuckin ingrates at A&M deciding that they can leave the Big12. Well I hope the SEC turns them down. And then they can be some ugly princess no one wants and they can go play for the Mountain West or someone. I’m blaming this all on fucking Rick Perry.
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arguingwithsignposts
@Corner Stone: Best trade Jimmy Johnson ever made.
41.
JPL
Boise State has orange dutch girl shoes and GA’s uniforms look like they should have marched in the dragon.com parade this morning.
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arguingwithsignposts
@Dee Loralei: The ultimate lesson from all this conference shifting is that major college conferences shouldn’t put numbers in their names. Math fail!
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The Dangerman
I don’t see how a Pac 16 works for basketball, where home and home games are necessary.
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Corner Stone
@efgoldman: I don’t know about “better” at the NCAA level. Bo was awesome but HW didn’t shirk it.
what is that deal right above the numbers, next to the collar of the jersey?
I think it’s called “flair”…LOL
I tend to like the “funky” uniforms, just don’t screw up the helmet. I like what Oregon does, sure some of the uniforms are pretty bad. But, as a player, putting on a different, NIKE made uniform each week, is cool as hell!
See, that’s what happens when an old man relies on memory. I’m remembering Bo as a pro, I’m sure.
Same thing happens to me with Troy Aikman. He was a much better pro than a college player…how many people remember that he actually played at Oklahoma before transferring to UCLA?
Hey here’s an idea: let’s just add the words “job creation” to every bill, that’s the magic fairy dust we need!
In the House, for instance, Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) had previously failed to win passage of a bill to help the soda-ash mining industry in her state. This year, she introduced the same idea with a new name: “Soda Ash Royalty Extension, Job Creation, and Export Enhancement Act of 2011.”
Pretty much every year, around this time, I briefly feel sorry for San Jose State.
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JR
Marshall grad here, but WVU fan from the cradle. Mom, Dad, wife, brother, some cousins, all Mountaineers. When I was a little boy we would leave for Morgantown at 6 am… it was before four lane modern roads.
Watched WVU lose a lot of games to PSU, but still couldn’t believe it when they joined the Big 10 (+ 0ne).
Tomorrow WVU and Marshall play, and I’ll have to listen on the radio, like back in the late 50s, before cable was invented.
I remember plowing through snow to get to a game with my Dad cursing like a sailor – he was a refined gentleman, ‘cept for driving and during a WVU game.
Big East rulz! That is all.
JR
Edited to ask: When did they start interrupting football games on account of weather? Cause that’s seriously wrong. The whole point of football is to play no matter how bad the weather is!!!
Lightning? Everybody dies of something. To be struck by a bolt of lightning during a holy game of football is to be instantly sainted by the FSM, or something like that. Maybe Braised?
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Corner Stone
@Cacti: Maybe. But I enjoyed watching him play both.
Just crazy shit.
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Corner Stone
Boise St’s paying the Dr.’s boyyyy!!
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Dee Loralei
@RareSanity: I do, I was at OU at that time. I was also there when JC Watts was QB and when Marcus Dupree was there.Spencer Tillman and The Boz was there too.
To be struck by a bolt of lightning during a holy game of football is to be instantly sainted by the FSM, or something like that
How many virgins can I score for that demise?
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Corner Stone
@RareSanity: Are you out of your mind? Is this sarcasm?
Have you never seen the football team fielded by the Air Force?
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tesslibrarian
Yes, the Georgia helmets are hideous. But they are for this game only.
Damn I wish the Dawgs would pull it together on offense. Our D is looking way better than in the past, but the offense is struggling.
As much of a service to all of college football beating Boise State would be, I’d rather the Dawgs beat SC next week. It’s division, and way more important in the long run.
75.
arguingwithsignposts
@Corner Stone: special place in my heart for the Tyler Rose. But the joke doesn’t work quite as well. :)
76.
Cacti
One week into the season and Notre Dame is already overrated.
Air Force’s option offense is pretty impressive, but, as far as the decisions that needed to be made during the process of the triple option, Holieway was an absolute virtuoso.
He was amazing. There is not one QB that Air Force could roll out that could hold his jock.
Yay! Notre Dame – most overrated program EVAH – loses.
Kathryn Jean Lopez and a bunch of pedophile priests are weeping.
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Dee Loralei
@Corner Stone: I remember Barry Switzer changed the entire offense to fit Aikman better, but Aikman got an injury and was out a few games, so Barry had to change it back for the back-up and then when Troy was healthy enough to play again, it was too late in the season to alter it again or something.
My memory may be off on some of it, but at the time I remember thinking that what Switzer did was pretty logical and seemed to be legit and it wasn’t Barry just being his usual lying asswipe self.
Big rumor on campus was Aikman was gay, gay. And that was from my gay friends, so it wasn’t just gossip from the straights to try to make Troy look bad for whatever reason.
All I really remember was Aikman was a whiny-butt.
And my Sooners have scored again, and given up a TD as well.
As much of a service to all of college football beating Boise State would be, I’d rather the Dawgs beat SC next week. It’s division, and way more important in the long run.
If UGA loses to Boise, Mark Richt is going to be in deep doggie doo doo…
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sven
@tesslibrarian: Ahh, SEC exceptionalism…. but don’t worry, beating Boise State will be a cakewalk. I hear the Georgia players will be hailed as liberators.
84.
arguingwithsignposts
@Dee Loralei: The big rumor in DFW was that Aikman was gay too. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But it was out there.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: With Samuel out and Crowell left to try to block it’s pretty fucking bleak.
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JPL
@RareSanity: you think..nah..
he’s a good christian man and they say their prayers before hand.
I’m not here to fluff Air Force, it was efgoldman that started the whole thing. I didn’t say they were good, but all of the movement and misdirection they use is pretty impressive. You know, in a fun to watch way, not in a national championship way.
Although there is a bit of humor in watching a bunch a short legged white guys run around like chickens with their heads cut off…
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Mr Stagger Lee
If the Big 12 dies, what is to be done with one of the nations best basketball programs, Kansas? Frankly is the Pac-12 becomes the super Pac-16, how about dropping Washington State, and bringing in UNLV, or Boise St, as well as the two Oklahoma schools(I don’t think Boone Pickens money will leave his OSU Cowboys in some 2nd rate conference)
and include Kansas for B-Ball exposure.
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tesslibrarian
@RareSanity: No, he will only be in trouble if he loses to SC.
And sven, it isn’t SEC exceptionalism to want a team to play more than a couple real games per season before starting a national whining campaign about their right to play for the national title. I’m pretty sure Pac10, ACC, Big 12 would all like ESPN to have another storyline than how the other conferences and the BCS are big meanies to the Broncos.
it isn’t SEC exceptionalism to want a team to play more than a couple real games per season before starting a national whining campaign about their right to play for the national title.
It is SEC exceptionalism to refuse to schedule a team so they can play those games every season. Glad to see Ga. be the exception to the rule.
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Mr Stagger Lee
@sven: If they lose, Richts’rails are being prepared for him to be ran out of Georgia.
97.
Foxhunter
Since no one has mentioned it yet, the UGA uniforms are required wear per their contract with Nike. So, the corporate sell out continues across NCAA land…
I’m knee deep in UGA fan land, and believe me, NONE of the hard core crowd like one item on the ‘Combat’ uni.
You can order your replica here, direct from Nike. Uh, no thanks.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: No shit, it’s all the fucking morons on 680 and “the ref” in Athens could talk about.
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arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity: Everyone knows Jeebus roots for Florida.
I heard similar in LA (insert obligatory “not that there’s anything wrong with that”) even though he was reportedly dating a variety of actresses (insert Tom Cruise reference here).
@Origuy: I don’t know why they still bother either. When I was a kid, they could get a significant number of people to show up at Stanford stadium for that game, but not any more.
Having grown up in Palo Alto, I still watch Stanford football, as my alma mater, Santa Clara, dropped football back in the 1990s.
He’s going to be in trouble then. The way they are looking tonight, there is nothing that tells me that they are a better team than SC.
Buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride this year…
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Foxhunter
@arguingwithsignposts: Florida Gators made a name for themselves using the patsy scheduling theory. Their former assistant AD, Greg McGarity, came up with this plan and he is now AD at UGA.
Hopefully this will not become part of UGA’s scheduling theory. I don’t need to see three Lousiana Tech’s on my schedule every year (with all due respect to La Tech).
@arguingwithsignposts: Oh honey, LOL, I didn’t mean to imply there was anything wrong with it. I guess I meant that while folks were more open about it in the 80’s, it still wasn’t really as accepted as it is now. And you never ever heard that about any sports guys, especially big time players in the pros our at the big football schools either.
I look forward to the day that big ol’ brusin’ footballers can be as gay as they want to be off the field.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Glad I made a good buck on the tickets for this game because I may not break even on the Florida tix. We’ll see if we really can wear these dudes down.
108.
Foxhunter
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): 680. You mean you actually listen to them? LOL. I’m sure Buck Belue just loooooved him some combat uniforms.
Ah…the blessings of St. Timothy of Tebow continue to be bestowed.
Too bad they didn’t follow him to Denver…
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: Actually compared to those other idiots I kind of like him. Mazzoni is hilarious in the morning.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
lemme concentrate on this cluster-fuck
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Dee Loralei
@khead: Yea but my point in the Aikman thing was that they changed to offense for him, he got hurt, they changed it back for Holieway and when Aikman came back he demanded they change it back for him and Switzer said, Dude, we got Holieway running this crazy well, we can’t change it again during the season for you, we’ll talk next season. And Aikman said, I don’t wanna play option, I’m gonna take my ball and go to LA.
See, that’s what I was trying to say about Switzer being mostly reasonable in this one instance, and not his usual asshole self.
@arguingwithsignposts: It’s primarily a money issue. Most SEC teams want 7 home games, which precludes scheduling a home-home series with other teams, because good teams won’t come play you unless you agree to put butts in their stadium seats as well. The cross-country travel isn’t popular with the schools, either, on either end, but we’ll see if that changes once/if A&M joins.
ESPN set up this game; 8 teams had to rearrange schedules for this matchup to happen. We do have a home-home set up for Clemson 2013-14, then Ohio State in 2020-21. But all bigger teams want some patsies mixed into their schedules now.
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JPL
GA at least has a tough schedule which says a lot. IMO…
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arguingwithsignposts
@Foxhunter: the players need to have their heads examined if they liked that uni. no offense, Raven, but that is some grade-A uggly.
Nothing can make up for having to listen to Perry Laurentino. Nothing.
I really liked when it was Rude and Jamie Dukes, Rude is cool…
119.
Lockewasright
42 – 0. Sure it was against a tune up opponent, but lots of teams are playing tune ups today. How many shut outs so far?
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arguingwithsignposts
@tesslibrarian: Tess, ESPN didn’t set up the game. Chik-fil-A did, and they paid out serious money to buy out the games from the other teams. millions, in fact.
ETA: I’m talking about the Boise State/Georgia game, not the OU/School of the Infirmed game.
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tesslibrarian
@RareSanity: Yeah, but our saving grace for that is who knows which Garcia will show up. Heck, I’m not sure even Garcia knows.
@Foxhunter: It’s happening already. We just signed an agreement to pay some Louisiana school (@Lafayette, maybe?) $2M to come get beat in a couple of years. As long as he keeps our bye week before Florida, though, I’ll try not to be too bitchy about those miserable, hot 1pm kickoffs.
@Corner Stone: yeah, yeah. Went to hs in SC, most of my friends are USC fans.
Crowell needs to get his hair in his helmet…/old coot
Athletes at major programs haven’t been “student-athletes” in a long time. It’s one of the main reasons ND sucks now. Former coach Charlie Weiss, and current coach Chip Kelly, have been begging to have admissions requirements for football players lowered.
123.
JPL
So GA thought it would be fun to give the defense a night off. I’m laughing.
124.
tesslibrarian
Going back to the game. Boise State scores when I’m looking at the computer, and a childhood listening to Larry Munson has me convinced that I’m somehow jinxing things by not giving my full attention.
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arguingwithsignposts
something tells me those Georgia players underestimated their opposition this week.
Yeah, but our saving grace for that is who knows which Garcia will show up. Heck, I’m not sure even Garcia knows.
We know which Marcus Lattimore is showing up though.
The same one that showed up last year, but this time, a year better.
129.
JPL
@arguingwithsignposts: I hope you are right in your assessment because if you aren’t it is going to be a lon season.
130.
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: Something tells me Georgia sucks!
And they’ll be 0-2 after The Cocks!
131.
The Dangerman
All you talking about Richt’s seat being hot reminded me that BSU’s coach would look mighty good on the UCLA sidelines (Neuheisel’s seat is hot to the color of the UGA uniforms).
I think the Democrats dropped the ball on the Perry chain email recitation that DougJ wrote about. This was time to double down on Perry; it could have sunk his campaign, and I genuinely believe that is the right thing for the country.
That man was Byron Williams, the 45-year-old loner who was arrested on his way to shoot up the Tides Center, the ACLU office, and murder who knows how many innocent people.
In the wake of Anders Breivik, this would be an excellent opportunity for major Democratic figures to sink Perry now. Since the conspiracy theory is so manifestly false, so outlandishly constructed, and can be directly linked to an act of political violence, Perry could be marginalized, here, now, among the gutless centrists of the media.
@Dee Loralei: hopefully you have switched from OU-TU to a real game by now. (I can say that, having degrees from both schools!)
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arguingwithsignposts
55 yard fg attempt? WTF?
137.
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: You’re god damned right they do.
And the mother frackin U of H Cougs just wiped the floor with them.
Frack the haterz!
138.
Dee Loralei
The way the BCS scores it actually makes more sense to play easier teams for your out of conference games. I think a huge win counts more than a loss or close win to a ranked opponent. At least a few years ago it did. And they seem to change it every year. But remember most of these games are scheduled years in advance.
When Stoops first came to OU, we played at least 2 tough opponents in our out games. A couple of years it was Alabama in home/home games. And I honestly think that serves you better later in the season in your tough conference games. And in your bowl games.
And don’t get me wrong, I hate the BCS . I think it should be pure playoffs, within the bowl system. Every other sport and every other football league can do playoffs, but for some reason, none of these University Presidents can figure out how to do it.
Too much money involved now. BCS athletes, that are high achieving students, are a rare breed.
Look at the big deal that was made about the Florida State player that was a Rhodes scholar. It IS a big deal, but it was almost like a verified sighting of a Unicorn.
They play in the Rose Bowl and they sell tickets; still, not sure I’d call it a football team, per se.
I think it’s the curse of Cade McNown (who was a raging asshole) and Handicap ParkingGate (have you ever tried to park on the UCLA campus)? Ever since, the team has sucked.
141.
Corner Stone
Ohhhh, Cocks!
142.
arguingwithsignposts
@Dee Loralei: These days, you almost have to go undefeated to win it all.
@RareSanity: which is why “Open Thread” is in the title of the post, I guess.
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arguingwithsignposts
@Comrade Kevin: There seems to be some confusion about the use of the term “open thread” around here. Seems to me an “open thread” doesn’t have a topic. AL does this a lot too – calls an open thread, then gives a topic.
none of these University Presidents can figure out how to do it
It isn’t the University Presidents making the playoff decision. It’s the conference heads and BCS chiefs keeping the conversation from ever moving beyond talk show fodder.
I think it was mostly timing for Richt in the beginning. Remember, his earlier years saw Spurrier and Saban go to the NFL and Phil Fulmer losing his touch. Once Urban Meyer got to Florida, Spurrier got to SC and Saban got to Bama, it’s been all downhill.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Since timing is everything it’s hard to argue.
@Throwin Stones: This seems to be a popular mixture, I’ve seen it on several sites.
175.
JPL
@Throwin Stones: My info is decades old, but our dogs would come upon a critter and we used tomato juice and then a bath… It was awful.. But my info is decades old.
176.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Well, I don’t think Boise was ranked #5 because they were playing us, they are a really good football team. Georgia is not.
177.
arguingwithsignposts
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): At this point in the season, nobody is ranked based on shit. That goes for Boise or Oklahoma or whoever.
I don’t think Georgia is near the “elite” program most of its fans think it is
THIS. I’m a UGA grad and you are spot on with this statement. Love my team, but some of the fanbase is a bit delusional about our place in the FBS food chain.
179.
jl
This if off topic, but thought I would post this interesting news: S and P rating subprime bonds higher than US treasuries. Just a one of those bizarre oddball human interest stories people might want to follow up on.
Experts Question Ratings After S&P Gives Subprime Bonds Higher Rating Than U.S. Debt
Brian Beutler, September 2, 2011, 5:18PM
Actually there are connections between this brutal corrupt asininity and football, so not totally off topic, but probably a thread full of football fans is not the place to explore that topic
Important Note: the horrible vista the lies before an SF Bay Area resident wrt football has absolutely nothing to do with me being down no F***ball. Nothing at all.
Cripes the Raiders have already stunk up the place enough for a whole season, and they haven’t even played the first regular season game.
I gotta a go. I saw a leaflet stapled to a telephone pole on my way to the market. Something about some minor league club, Goldrushers or something, looking for a quarterback. Might was well check it out.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: Yea it was fun and with Panic playing next door it was a trippy scene. My father-in-law truly loved his Hokies and it was his last trip down here.
At this point in the season, nobody is ranked based on shit
Unlsess you are Notre Dame.
/chuckle/
183.
JPL
@Throwin Stones: We one time opened whole tomatoes and squished them to create the sauce. It sorta works but I have to admit that a few days helps also, too.
184.
JPL
@RareSanity: why.. have you been watching the GA defense?
185.
Dennis SGMM
How long until bail bondsmen begin to be listed on team rosters?
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I dunno, we have no running game and you know how Bobo get’s hammered for his play calling. Throw in 7 penalties (so far) and I don’t know. This defense doesn’t look one bit better than they did last year even with the jumbo at nose and a year of experience in the 4-3.
Is kind of humorous, though. ND ranked #16 and loses today. By Monday they will be ranked #11 and Beano Cook will be calling for them to with the MNC (Mythical National Championship).
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@JPL: And with 15 second delay with HD there is no way to listen to the radio broadcast.
Notre Dame is the most consistently overrated team in the history of college football.
It’s as if the ND AD sends out a copy of Rudy to all the pollsters in July of every year. They have done nothing since….well, shit, I can’t even remember.
I don’t really understand it. It’s quite obvious that while they definitely are a top 20 program, they are clearly not on the same level as Florida, LSU and Alabama on a year-to-year basis.
They are the type of program that every once in a while, if all the stars align, are good enough to compete for a national championship. “Elite” programs have rare years when they aren’t in the mix for a title.
@RareSanity: Okay, we should remember that Alabama spent a number of years in sanction purgatory looking for the second coming of the Bear. They haven’t always been “elite.”
196.
Anonymous At Work
Wasn’t gonna comment but to hear the announcers in teh OSU-LSU game EMBRACE AND CHEER ON Tressell is reprehensible. “Good for him.”?!!!?!??!
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: My first Georgia game was the 60 yarder by Butler to beat Clemson. I don’t know when you were here but I’ve always thought winning that National Championship is what’s responsible for that delusion.
The two years I played (well, I was on the team LOL) at GT, we played the Ray Geoff teams. They may not have been great, but those were some mean, nasty SOBs. These guys are are soft as tissue paper.
Remove the dark years of Mike Shula, and Alabama has always been relavent in college football.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Was that the team where your qb beat Georgia in Atlanta and got a DUI in Athens that night?
204.
Foxhunter
@RareSanity: I will say, in defense of Ma UGA, that the ‘elite’ status is as dynamic as its’ ever been.
It wasn’t long ago that Alabama was fumbling around in the dark looking for the next Paul Bryant. EVERYONE in LSU land HATES Les Miles; let’s see how they fare this year without Jordan Jefferson. Florida suffered post-Spurrier and who knows what their furture may hold.
I guess my point in all of this, parity, along with national recruited has (pardon the pun) really leveled the playing field. UGA caught lightniing in a bottle during Richt’s early years, but like Bobby Cox and the Atlanta Braves, they never could get over the hump and win when it counted. Maybe his time is up, but I don’t know what we could or would expect to get in another head coach. Do I like his gospel ways? Not really, but at the same time, I don’t care to sacrifice good character for a dick like Nick Saban.
It’s a tough situation for me, since I’m not ready to have him fired, or quit. I just want some of our more rabid fan base to be a bit more realistic when it comes to expectations.
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arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity: and dennis franchione. Don’t forget coach fran! :)
206.
JPL
Boise State looks good.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: I agree with you about Richt and it’s looking like Donnan was even worse than imagined but I think we could expect more than 6-7 and that doesn’t really tell the story of how bad the last three years have been.
Did you see Pollock on Gameday? He was really good.
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Corner Stone
Boise St whupping the lowly soon to be 0-2 dawgs.
Mmmm, tasty.
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Foxhunter
href=”#comment-2757596″>RareSanity: Dubose, Franchione, Shula, Bill Curry…..Alabama had plenty of down years before Saban showed up.
@RareSanity: I worked at Tech for a couple of years in the late 90’s. Used to go to Stooges where the bartender named “stick” was an old Jacket QB, quite a character.
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Foxhunter
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): I agree about 6-7, but go read the dawgvent. Those idiots *demand* a 10 win season every year. Not even close to being realistic. It is annoying.
Pollack – amazes me how much better suited he is for TV than he ever was for radio. Usually the other way around.
I played on the ’93 & ’94 teams, I don’t think Donnie Davis or Tommy Luginbill were roughin’ it up in Athens. Hell they weren’t roughin’ it up anywhere, we stunk. LOL
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: Oh yea, you don’t have to convince me about the idiots. I just love the game. With the Illini and Va Tech winning today it’s the first opening day in a while that more than one of my teams has won.
Yeah, it was a dark coupla days for Alabama under Mike Price.
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Foxhunter
@RareSanity: My father was/is GT season ticket holder, so as a kid I went to all the games until i left for college in 89.
Absolutely loved the heart of John Dewberry, and Shawn Jones was awesome. Too bad Ken Swilling never panned out to be a great one…he was a machine when healthy.
@RareSanity: If you were on the 93 team, you may remember that during the UGA game, someone hired out one of those promotional airplanes to tow a banner that read ‘Fire Ray Goof’.
Good times in Athens. Then we hired the Ponzi-scheme’r’.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I had a bunch of buddies who played at Illinois in the 70’s. Even the guys on the scout team were really fine athletes.
221.
Throwin Stones
Thanks everyone.
First batch of the peroxide, baking soda, and soap seemed to work pretty well.
Updates forthcoming…
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wrb
@JPL:
I’m waiting for the team that wears the clunky leather black and white saddle shoes all the girls wore in my kindergarden class. Until then I have no use for football.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: I was standing in for a prof in a class when Goff was still an assistant. He brought Worley in and, thinking I was the professor, he gave me this big song and dance about how Tim had learned his lesson as and was going to bear down in the class. By the time he got out the door Worley was snoring in the back row!
Yeah, Dewberry was before my time. I had to suffer under the insufferable Bill Lewis as a coach. O’Leary took over for him mid-season of my sophomore year, but after that year, I figured I probably wasn’t going to the NFL, so I decided to concentrate on the books.
Turns out, I hated being a student at GT, the workload put a serious cramp in my social life. I ended up transferring to a smaller school in NC to finish up my degree.
Dec. 1, 1984: A day suitable for John Dewberry’s scrapbook in a life filled with them, particularly from the past two years.
It dawned at breakfast in Athens when someone tossed a newspaper column onto Dewberry’s plate, stirring his competitive juices to a froth. It wound down with an arrest for drunk driving by what he maintains was an avenging, Dawg-loving cop.
In between, he squired his football team, Georgia Tech, to a seismic 35-18 victory against his former team, Georgia. The game defined Dewberry as a quarterback and reserved his place in the pantheon of Yellow Jackets sports.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I know his son Greg, Nice guy, high school assistant and an organic farmer.
This is true. There were guys on the scout team with me that were better than the starters. However, big college football is like the NFL. Scholarship athletes, much like 1st round draft picks, get preferential treatment. They would have to absolutely suck out loud for a scout team guy to get a chance.
@wrb: They seem to like neon for shoes but it might not be long for the saddle shoe look. The football clothing designers are not ready for that TV show What Not to Wear.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Boise State was classy as shit.
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arguingwithsignposts
All in all, I thought Boise State was pretty impressive. Poised, Classy. They held their own against an SEC team. Good on them.
Now you Dawgs gotta handle them Cocks next week or the season’s over.
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Foxhunter
@RareSanity: I went to Tech in 89-90. Like you, it was too much school for my social yuk-yukking. Transferred to UGA to finish.
Still root for those little guys at the North Avenue Trade School…but they just don’t have the recruiting base any longer.
Night games at Bobby Dodd are something to behold….the view of the city is spectacular.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Are all scout team players non-scholarship? I thought one of my pals had a ride and he never played a down in a game.
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Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: We always go over for the Thursday Night VaTech_Ga Tech games. It’s on my birthday this year.
I will always have a soft spot for the Jackets. I was just a football fanatic when I was a kid and it’s not like the Falcons gave much to root for, so it was UGA. I still root for GT when they play UGA though.
There is nothing to hate about GT football, it’s just a rootable program. Thursday night games in downtown Atlanta? Unbelieveable! I still remember the game we played FSU with Charlie Ward and Warrick Dunn on a Thursday night, it was awesome.
ETA: I need to go to sleep; it was a long 9 hours on my feet at the library today. As staff reduced, they didn’t think anyone needed to be replaced because we’re under construction, but our numbers were actually up last month.
@tesslibrarian: That article doesn’t have a lot to say about ESPN’s influence. Money talks, bullshit walks. Was TV involved? Sure. But the *key* to scheduling that game was the fact that Chic-Fil-A was willing to grease the skids with huge money.
South Florida beat Notre Dame. While ND isn’t the top-tier team it once was, this is still a remarkable feat for USF.
Rule of thumb, never play South Florida in overtime or 2-hour rain delays.
Meanwhile, Georgia is now fighting with Oregon over the “Worst Uniform Colors In Teh History of Mankind” Award. I swear to FSM, that red-on-red uni with grey-sided helmets hurt the eyes like never before…
And I’m late to this argument. What’s going on about “librarians”?
if you still hate a school, like colorado say, because of something between them and a school you no longer root for, i do believe college football then becomes a metaphor for life.
watching someone else’s first attempt to use chopsticks as an adult
Adjusted. In that context, it’s hilarious.
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Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: Have you seen people using rubber bands with them? Full disclosure: I am competent, not great, with chopsticks for an Anglo.
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Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: I have seen people do the great cheat with them. It really doesn’t help all that much, in fact since it restricts the motion of the wide tips it’s actually counterproductive. But hey if it makes them feel better I say go for it.
I’m competent. I can get through a whole meal and pick up a single grain of rice and such. I’m still working on the cooking with them though.
OT: I broke down and did Book of Faces. Can you nudge me in the proper direction to locate thee?
EDIT: We can discuss upstairs also.
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Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: Look at your fake wifey’s friends. I am by the cannon wearing sunglasses.
ETA: The French cafe/boulangerie nearby has fan-fucking-tastic tartes. The best are the aux fruits and aux citron. Plus, the staff tends to be pretty girls who speak French. How can I go wrong by going there often?
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Amir Khalid
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’ve seen “trainer” chopsticks with a metal spring between the pair to hold them in the right position.
Using a rubber band would mean crossing the chopsticks, and trapping the morsel of food as though between scissor blades. I’m told that this is unrefined; one should grasp the food with the tips of the chopsticks.
I’m Malay. My people traditionally don’t use cutlery to eat with; we use only the right hand. Not the left hand; like my fellow southpaw Paul Simon said, “That’s the hand you use … well, never mind.”
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Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: Sent. You’ll be the fifth person on this blog to know my full name.
The French cafe/boulangerie nearby has fan-fucking-tastic tartes
WANT!! Do they ship by chance?
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arguingwithsignposts
@Yutsano: @Omnes Omnibus: goddamn you all to hell with your chopsticks with their straight wooden shapes!
I used to dream of using chopsticks properly. {sobs}
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Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: I learned to use them as a child. I just don’t do it enough to be better than competent. I was first taught to use them by an Indonesian friend of my Dad. For some reason, I thought that Malay used chopsticks. Obviously, I was wrong. One lives and learns. As far as the eating with the right hand only, I was the sponsoring officer of a Saudi officer when I was in the US Army Field Artillery course. Right handed eating with his family was de rigeur. BTW Arabian roasted chicken is unbelievably good.
Georgia and Oregon are both sporting Nike’s appalling fashion atrocities this year. This is the common link between the two. Nike.
Ducks can hold out for Roses, but National Championship is pretty much out of the question barring a lot of wild and crazy stuff happening. Didn’t look good against LSU…turnovers will just ruin your day every single time.
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Amir Khalid
@Omnes Omnibus:
In Southeast Asia, we get exposed to a fair bit of Chinese culture and cuisine, so it’s quite common for non-Chinese people here to be familiar with using chopsticks.
In Muslim culture the attitude toward the left hand is very much as Paul Simon describes it (is it a Jewish thing too?). Muslim southpaws probably remember being scolded at the dinner table as a kid for instinctively using the left hand. I eat rightie myself only when at formal Malay dinners where no cutlery is provided.
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Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: Now that I think of it, I don’t know that I have had Malay food. I need to remedy that.
Seems to me an “open thread” doesn’t have a topic. AL does this a lot too – calls an open thread, then gives a topic.
I do that so people will feel free to go off-topic. Of course, most BJ commentors will do that regardless, but if it says “Open Thread” right in the title then the hall monitors have that much less to bitch about.
You’re all (to my knowledge) voluntary participants, so I can suggest a topic to start the conversation, right?
Discouraging the use of the left hand isn’t unique to muslim cultures in Asia. My wife is Korean and I didn’t know for almost 10 years that she’s a lefty. She was “encouraged” to only use her right hand(she only uses her left hand to use scissors). Her daughter(US born and raised) managed to avoid the “encouragement”, she writes with her left hand.
Malay food is yummy, I learned to cook some myself.
Somehow I have managed to eat a lot of Thai, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Lao, and Philippine food, but not, as far as I can recall, Malay. Odd, that.
ETA:
You might want to contact a Civil Libertarian about that, or according to toko_loco any Libertarian will do.
I know that, in her mind, civil libertarians are libertarians, but I am sure it works the other way such that all libertarians are civil libertarians. But who knows?
@Omnes Omnibus:
If you’ve had Indonesian food, that arguably you have had Malay food. Malays and Indonesians are of the same ethnic stock, we speak more or less the same language, and we have pretty much the same culture with what are essentially local variations.
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Steve
@RareSanity: RareSanity, I went to law school with Bill Lewis’s son (at UGA). Let’s just say the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree.
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Villago Delenda Est
Local fishwrap (which is Lord Loves Me Some Ducks! central) is of course devoting massive column inches to the LSU/UofO game, especially all those green and yellow clad fans who have traveled to the Big D to see the game live in the stadium of the most pretentious NFL franchise, ever.
The Dangerman
I’ve lost count; has Oregon or LSU had the most players arrested recently?
Between that and Musberger, I guess I’m watching BSU and UG.
Edit: I thought ND was supposed to be good?
Linkmeister
As a born-in-the-West Amurrican I’m rooting for Boise State and Oregon.
Besides, ESPN has made me loathe the SEC.
lamh32
umm ok, I just might be the only person from Cajun country who could care less about an LSU athletic fight, but I’m a loyal hometown girl, so…
GEAUX LSU!
Dee Loralei
Boomer Sooner!
AHEM, Mr Cole, there is another game.
Villago Delenda Est
@The Dangerman:
Oregon is working on getting those arrest numbers up.
The QB says, sure, I was in the rented BMW that was clocked at 118mph on I5, but I was asleep…
Dee Loralei
Y’all let me know when Boise State and Oregon kick some butt, cause I will so switch channels to watch that!
John Cole
My god Georgia’s uniforms are awful. Who looked at that and approved the design. Disgusting. Looks like an arena league team.
Villago Delenda Est
@John Cole:
OH no! The UofO fashion disease…it’s spreading!
Linkmeister
@efgoldman: I was out doing errands and already hearing traffic reports and parking lot space updates for the Colorado-UH game at 1:15pm. The game starts at 4:15 local.
The Dangerman
@John Cole:
Apparently, they ran out of red paint for the sides of the helmet.
Dee Loralei
Boomer Sooner! 3-0
arguingwithsignposts
espn3 streaming ftw!
Dee Loralei
@efgoldman: Tulsa. Yea, I know I applaud those teams ding that. Someone scheduled us a bye next week, now that’s a true WTF?
Roger Moore
@John Cole:
The airbrushing on Boise State’s sleeves isn’t going to win any fashion contests, either.
MikeJ
Isn’t one of our regulars here a veteran of the smurf turf?
Corner Stone
Where did they find so many kids from the Georgia family to field a team?
The Dangerman
7-0 Dogs; on the upside, if BSU goes down, no NC talk from them this year.
Does Georgia have a sponsorship deal with a cough syrup?
arguingwithsignposts
what is this, teh ugly fashion bowl? wtf? bad helmets, pads, shoes, pants, etc.
Corner Stone
Case closed. I am buying a pair of the Boise St shoes.
Ben Cisco (mobile)
Didn’t think Oregon’s unis could get any uglier. Sadly, I was wrong.
Dee Loralei
Touchdown!!
Villago Delenda Est
OK, the Pac-whatever is dialing up the stupid…or ESPN is…:
Pac-16 being discussed, according to a “source”, sez ESPN.COM
The Dangerman
@Corner Stone:
I finally see their “names”; another fashion faux pas. Ghastly.
On the flip side, these uni’s might work well for this winter’s Nutcracker Suite production.
Villago Delenda Est
Man, that high-test Duck offense is having problems in the red zone, it seems…OR 6 LSU 3.
Dee Loralei
Touchdown!!!
Dee Loralei
@Villago Delenda Est: They’re gonna make OU an offer in the next week or so.
Dee Loralei
ok un-touchdown.
ETA: Touchdown! For realz!
And they missed the PAT sheesh.
Corner Stone
WTF? Anyone heard of something called a “tackle for loss” ?
Villago Delenda Est
@Dee Loralei:
The problem with a 16 team league, as geographically disperse as one that reaches half way across the friggin’ continent, is that it, frankly, dilutes the brand. Of course, I remember when it was the Pac-8, and you had to have ocean front views from your state to be in it. How often will even the Pac-12 teams play each other? There are some things that can’t be changed…Oregon will always have Oregon State, Washington State, and Washington on its schedule. Taking out the CA and AZ schools for these in the Rockies and even farther east schools is, well, just not very organic.
Corner Stone
That little #7 for GA is a freakin Tight End??
khead
Y’all better stop blaspheming Uncle Brent.
YOU ARE LOOKING LIVE!
RareSanity
Hooray…college football trash talking thread!
As a guy that played in the (slightly) more sane ACC I love these! Even though I went to Georgia Tech, I was always a UGA football fan. They had Herschel Walker, how could you not be a fan of that guy?
ETA: I grew up in Atlanta, that’s why I was a Georgia fan. Wanted to play at UGA but they don’t have engineering. :-(
So I’ll be the SEC homer…
That being said, Georgia’s helmets are fugly. I like the new uniforms, but those helmets are hideous.
flukebucket
Ga has no offensive line. I can’t remember the last time they did.
arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity: what is that deal right above the numbers, next to the collar of the jersey?
Villago Delenda Est
@efgoldman:
Yeah, and there’s that utterly obscene $3 billion (yes, billion with a b) deal the Pac-12 signed with ESPN and Fox.
It’s all about the money, as usual. All other values are lost in the scramble for the lucre.
Cacti
@Villago Delenda Est:
The proposed Pac-16 would span 3 time zones.
Makes sense to me.
Corner Stone
God in heaven. Herschel Walker.
FTW.
Dee Loralei
@Villago Delenda Est: Oh I agree. And it’s going to make traveling for the teams and their fans even more difficult. But my guess is it’ll be 4 super-conferences and then 1-A’s. But I’d seriously much rather be in the PAC 100 than in the SEC, I hate the SEC.
And Bebe at the Big12 last year should have secured 2 teams to make up for Neb and Co leaving. But he didn’t. And now we’re stuck with those fuckin ingrates at A&M deciding that they can leave the Big12. Well I hope the SEC turns them down. And then they can be some ugly princess no one wants and they can go play for the Mountain West or someone. I’m blaming this all on fucking Rick Perry.
arguingwithsignposts
@Corner Stone: Best trade Jimmy Johnson ever made.
JPL
Boise State has orange dutch girl shoes and GA’s uniforms look like they should have marched in the dragon.com parade this morning.
arguingwithsignposts
@Dee Loralei: The ultimate lesson from all this conference shifting is that major college conferences shouldn’t put numbers in their names. Math fail!
The Dangerman
I don’t see how a Pac 16 works for basketball, where home and home games are necessary.
Corner Stone
@efgoldman: I don’t know about “better” at the NCAA level. Bo was awesome but HW didn’t shirk it.
RareSanity
@arguingwithsignposts:
I think it’s called “flair”…LOL
I tend to like the “funky” uniforms, just don’t screw up the helmet. I like what Oregon does, sure some of the uniforms are pretty bad. But, as a player, putting on a different, NIKE made uniform each week, is cool as hell!
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: Oh yeah, no doubt. Genius trade.
Villago Delenda Est
@arguingwithsignposts:
One of the grumpy old men from the UofO math department is probably having conniptions right now.
Yutsano
The Boise State alumnus is I, said the fly. Yes I have indeed stood on the Smurf Turf. Connected with fellow Broncs on Book of Faces as well.
Flipping between the two games with my dad. So far bad tackling by BSU and spotty offense on Oregon’s side.
Villago Delenda Est
@RareSanity:
How many pieces of “flair” was it? 10? 12? And if you met the minimum, and didn’t go beyond, that was a sign of being a slacker?
khead
Oklahoma is gonna cover the 25 before halftime. I will guess 47-7 final.
Corner Stone
What a floater by Kellen Moore
RareSanity
@efgoldman:
Blasphemy!
Bo Jackson was really good (I think word “great” is overused) in college but, he was actually more dominate in the pros than he was at Auburn.
Herschel Walker was a much more dominate back in college than Bo. He almost single handedly won the national championship back in 1980.
arguingwithsignposts
@Villago Delenda Est: We are all Georgia now, apparently.
RareSanity
@Villago Delenda Est:
Thank goodness Office Space references are so universal…
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman:
You know who else was a dominant back in college?
That’s right. OJ!
RareSanity
@efgoldman:
Same thing happens to me with Troy Aikman. He was a much better pro than a college player…how many people remember that he actually played at Oklahoma before transferring to UCLA?
RareSanity
@arguingwithsignposts:
LMAO!
Dee Loralei
Hahha, FYWP. I just announced OU’s most recent touchdown. By typing in: Touchdown!!
And wp said my comment was deleted because I’d already typed that!
I’m gonna have to figure out more and better different ways to do that, or me and WP will come to blows before this season is out!
Southern Beale
Hey here’s an idea: let’s just add the words “job creation” to every bill, that’s the magic fairy dust we need!
Cacti
@efgoldman:
Bo actually never realized his full potential as NFL player, because he was playing only about 10 games a season so he could play baseball too.
Should have picked one and stuck with it.
khead
@efgoldman:
The BYU-Ole Miss game you mentioned in the other thread was pretty ugly too.
Corner Stone
@RareSanity: No one understood why he went to OK, at the time.
And I mean no one.
Comrade Kevin
Pretty much every year, around this time, I briefly feel sorry for San Jose State.
JR
Marshall grad here, but WVU fan from the cradle. Mom, Dad, wife, brother, some cousins, all Mountaineers. When I was a little boy we would leave for Morgantown at 6 am… it was before four lane modern roads.
Watched WVU lose a lot of games to PSU, but still couldn’t believe it when they joined the Big 10 (+ 0ne).
Tomorrow WVU and Marshall play, and I’ll have to listen on the radio, like back in the late 50s, before cable was invented.
I remember plowing through snow to get to a game with my Dad cursing like a sailor – he was a refined gentleman, ‘cept for driving and during a WVU game.
Big East rulz! That is all.
JR
Edited to ask: When did they start interrupting football games on account of weather? Cause that’s seriously wrong. The whole point of football is to play no matter how bad the weather is!!!
Lightning? Everybody dies of something. To be struck by a bolt of lightning during a holy game of football is to be instantly sainted by the FSM, or something like that. Maybe Braised?
Corner Stone
@Cacti: Maybe. But I enjoyed watching him play both.
Just crazy shit.
Corner Stone
Boise St’s paying the Dr.’s boyyyy!!
Dee Loralei
@RareSanity: I do, I was at OU at that time. I was also there when JC Watts was QB and when Marcus Dupree was there.Spencer Tillman and The Boz was there too.
God, I love college football.
Looks like OU just recovered a fumble. Woohoo!
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: For shame! For shame!
Earl Campbell at UT for the win!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@efgoldman: woof
Corner Stone
@Dee Loralei:
By any chance did you ever bring lunch out to where they were watching oil derricks go up and down for their no-show jobs?
RareSanity
@Dee Loralei:
Jamelle Holieway is the best option quarterback to EVER play college football…
Corner Stone
@JR:
How many virgins can I score for that demise?
Corner Stone
@RareSanity: Are you out of your mind? Is this sarcasm?
Have you never seen the football team fielded by the Air Force?
tesslibrarian
Yes, the Georgia helmets are hideous. But they are for this game only.
Damn I wish the Dawgs would pull it together on offense. Our D is looking way better than in the past, but the offense is struggling.
As much of a service to all of college football beating Boise State would be, I’d rather the Dawgs beat SC next week. It’s division, and way more important in the long run.
arguingwithsignposts
@Corner Stone: special place in my heart for the Tyler Rose. But the joke doesn’t work quite as well. :)
Cacti
One week into the season and Notre Dame is already overrated.
RareSanity
@Corner Stone:
No sir, I am not…
Air Force’s option offense is pretty impressive, but, as far as the decisions that needed to be made during the process of the triple option, Holieway was an absolute virtuoso.
He was amazing. There is not one QB that Air Force could roll out that could hold his jock.
Hawes
Yay! Notre Dame – most overrated program EVAH – loses.
Kathryn Jean Lopez and a bunch of pedophile priests are weeping.
Dee Loralei
@Corner Stone: I remember Barry Switzer changed the entire offense to fit Aikman better, but Aikman got an injury and was out a few games, so Barry had to change it back for the back-up and then when Troy was healthy enough to play again, it was too late in the season to alter it again or something.
My memory may be off on some of it, but at the time I remember thinking that what Switzer did was pretty logical and seemed to be legit and it wasn’t Barry just being his usual lying asswipe self.
Big rumor on campus was Aikman was gay, gay. And that was from my gay friends, so it wasn’t just gossip from the straights to try to make Troy look bad for whatever reason.
All I really remember was Aikman was a whiny-butt.
And my Sooners have scored again, and given up a TD as well.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@tesslibrarian: We are just not very good.
arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity:
Air Force?!? Air Force?!?
RareSanity
@tesslibrarian:
If UGA loses to Boise, Mark Richt is going to be in deep doggie doo doo…
sven
@tesslibrarian: Ahh, SEC exceptionalism…. but don’t worry, beating Boise State will be a cakewalk. I hear the Georgia players will be hailed as liberators.
arguingwithsignposts
@Dee Loralei: The big rumor in DFW was that Aikman was gay too. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But it was out there.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: With Samuel out and Crowell left to try to block it’s pretty fucking bleak.
JPL
@RareSanity: you think..nah..
he’s a good christian man and they say their prayers before hand.
khead
@Dee Loralei:
Holieway replaced Aikman and then kept the job.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@JPL: That shit has worn thin with the “faithful”.
Origuy
@Comrade Kevin: I don’t know why they even bother. It’s a commuter school and the locals, like me, don’t care. Does anyone go to the games?
Dee Loralei
@RareSanity: Oh yea, I remember him too. Poor guy also plagued with injuries.
I loved the wishbone and the option etc.
OU’s driving again.
RareSanity
@efgoldman:
Well, now your changing the argument…
@arguingwithsignposts:
I’m not here to fluff Air Force, it was efgoldman that started the whole thing. I didn’t say they were good, but all of the movement and misdirection they use is pretty impressive. You know, in a fun to watch way, not in a national championship way.
Although there is a bit of humor in watching a bunch a short legged white guys run around like chickens with their heads cut off…
Mr Stagger Lee
If the Big 12 dies, what is to be done with one of the nations best basketball programs, Kansas? Frankly is the Pac-12 becomes the super Pac-16, how about dropping Washington State, and bringing in UNLV, or Boise St, as well as the two Oklahoma schools(I don’t think Boone Pickens money will leave his OSU Cowboys in some 2nd rate conference)
and include Kansas for B-Ball exposure.
tesslibrarian
@RareSanity: No, he will only be in trouble if he loses to SC.
And sven, it isn’t SEC exceptionalism to want a team to play more than a couple real games per season before starting a national whining campaign about their right to play for the national title. I’m pretty sure Pac10, ACC, Big 12 would all like ESPN to have another storyline than how the other conferences and the BCS are big meanies to the Broncos.
RareSanity
@JPL:
If you are a head coach at The University of Georgia and you don’t win, not even Jebus can save you.
arguingwithsignposts
@tesslibrarian:
It is SEC exceptionalism to refuse to schedule a team so they can play those games every season. Glad to see Ga. be the exception to the rule.
Mr Stagger Lee
@sven: If they lose, Richts’rails are being prepared for him to be ran out of Georgia.
Foxhunter
Since no one has mentioned it yet, the UGA uniforms are required wear per their contract with Nike. So, the corporate sell out continues across NCAA land…
I’m knee deep in UGA fan land, and believe me, NONE of the hard core crowd like one item on the ‘Combat’ uni.
You can order your replica here, direct from Nike. Uh, no thanks.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: No shit, it’s all the fucking morons on 680 and “the ref” in Athens could talk about.
arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity: Everyone knows Jeebus roots for Florida.
Wait, what?
The Dangerman
@arguingwithsignposts:
I heard similar in LA (insert obligatory “not that there’s anything wrong with that”) even though he was reportedly dating a variety of actresses (insert Tom Cruise reference here).
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
The UGA REM commercial! UGH-A
Comrade Kevin
@Origuy: I don’t know why they still bother either. When I was a kid, they could get a significant number of people to show up at Stanford stadium for that game, but not any more.
Having grown up in Palo Alto, I still watch Stanford football, as my alma mater, Santa Clara, dropped football back in the 1990s.
RareSanity
@tesslibrarian:
He’s going to be in trouble then. The way they are looking tonight, there is nothing that tells me that they are a better team than SC.
Buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride this year…
Foxhunter
@arguingwithsignposts: Florida Gators made a name for themselves using the patsy scheduling theory. Their former assistant AD, Greg McGarity, came up with this plan and he is now AD at UGA.
Hopefully this will not become part of UGA’s scheduling theory. I don’t need to see three Lousiana Tech’s on my schedule every year (with all due respect to La Tech).
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: The players also wanted them.
Dee Loralei
@arguingwithsignposts: Oh honey, LOL, I didn’t mean to imply there was anything wrong with it. I guess I meant that while folks were more open about it in the 80’s, it still wasn’t really as accepted as it is now. And you never ever heard that about any sports guys, especially big time players in the pros our at the big football schools either.
I look forward to the day that big ol’ brusin’ footballers can be as gay as they want to be off the field.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Glad I made a good buck on the tickets for this game because I may not break even on the Florida tix. We’ll see if we really can wear these dudes down.
Foxhunter
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): 680. You mean you actually listen to them? LOL. I’m sure Buck Belue just loooooved him some combat uniforms.
He still thinks he at the helm, 31 years later.
RareSanity
@arguingwithsignposts:
Ah…the blessings of St. Timothy of Tebow continue to be bestowed.
Too bad they didn’t follow him to Denver…
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: Actually compared to those other idiots I kind of like him. Mazzoni is hilarious in the morning.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
lemme concentrate on this cluster-fuck
Dee Loralei
@khead: Yea but my point in the Aikman thing was that they changed to offense for him, he got hurt, they changed it back for Holieway and when Aikman came back he demanded they change it back for him and Switzer said, Dude, we got Holieway running this crazy well, we can’t change it again during the season for you, we’ll talk next season. And Aikman said, I don’t wanna play option, I’m gonna take my ball and go to LA.
See, that’s what I was trying to say about Switzer being mostly reasonable in this one instance, and not his usual asshole self.
Corner Stone
@tesslibrarian: Go Cocks!
Foxhunter
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): They also wanted the ‘black out’ against AU. We all know how that turned out.
tesslibrarian
@arguingwithsignposts: It’s primarily a money issue. Most SEC teams want 7 home games, which precludes scheduling a home-home series with other teams, because good teams won’t come play you unless you agree to put butts in their stadium seats as well. The cross-country travel isn’t popular with the schools, either, on either end, but we’ll see if that changes once/if A&M joins.
ESPN set up this game; 8 teams had to rearrange schedules for this matchup to happen. We do have a home-home set up for Clemson 2013-14, then Ohio State in 2020-21. But all bigger teams want some patsies mixed into their schedules now.
JPL
GA at least has a tough schedule which says a lot. IMO…
arguingwithsignposts
@Foxhunter: the players need to have their heads examined if they liked that uni. no offense, Raven, but that is some grade-A uggly.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Nothing can make up for having to listen to Perry Laurentino. Nothing.
I really liked when it was Rude and Jamie Dukes, Rude is cool…
Lockewasright
42 – 0. Sure it was against a tune up opponent, but lots of teams are playing tune ups today. How many shut outs so far?
arguingwithsignposts
@tesslibrarian: Tess, ESPN didn’t set up the game. Chik-fil-A did, and they paid out serious money to buy out the games from the other teams. millions, in fact.
ETA: I’m talking about the Boise State/Georgia game, not the OU/School of the Infirmed game.
tesslibrarian
@RareSanity: Yeah, but our saving grace for that is who knows which Garcia will show up. Heck, I’m not sure even Garcia knows.
@Foxhunter: It’s happening already. We just signed an agreement to pay some Louisiana school (@Lafayette, maybe?) $2M to come get beat in a couple of years. As long as he keeps our bye week before Florida, though, I’ll try not to be too bitchy about those miserable, hot 1pm kickoffs.
@Corner Stone: yeah, yeah. Went to hs in SC, most of my friends are USC fans.
Crowell needs to get his hair in his helmet…/old coot
RareSanity
@efgoldman:
I agree on Musberger.
Athletes at major programs haven’t been “student-athletes” in a long time. It’s one of the main reasons ND sucks now. Former coach Charlie Weiss, and current coach Chip Kelly, have been begging to have admissions requirements for football players lowered.
JPL
So GA thought it would be fun to give the defense a night off. I’m laughing.
tesslibrarian
Going back to the game. Boise State scores when I’m looking at the computer, and a childhood listening to Larry Munson has me convinced that I’m somehow jinxing things by not giving my full attention.
arguingwithsignposts
something tells me those Georgia players underestimated their opposition this week.
Corner Stone
@tesslibrarian: Just admit it. You love The Cocks!
Foxhunter
@tesslibrarian: By all means, keep the bye week. It’s done us sooooo much good prior to the UF game for the last 18 years.
/not old coot, tired of losing to Florida. lol.
RareSanity
@tesslibrarian:
We know which Marcus Lattimore is showing up though.
The same one that showed up last year, but this time, a year better.
JPL
@arguingwithsignposts: I hope you are right in your assessment because if you aren’t it is going to be a lon season.
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: Something tells me Georgia sucks!
And they’ll be 0-2 after The Cocks!
The Dangerman
All you talking about Richt’s seat being hot reminded me that BSU’s coach would look mighty good on the UCLA sidelines (Neuheisel’s seat is hot to the color of the UGA uniforms).
arguingwithsignposts
@The Dangerman: UCLA has a football team?
AA+ Bonds
I think the Democrats dropped the ball on the Perry chain email recitation that DougJ wrote about. This was time to double down on Perry; it could have sunk his campaign, and I genuinely believe that is the right thing for the country.
The conspiracy theory that Perry cited was famously cited by another man disgruntled with Obama about a year ago.
That man was Byron Williams, the 45-year-old loner who was arrested on his way to shoot up the Tides Center, the ACLU office, and murder who knows how many innocent people.
In the wake of Anders Breivik, this would be an excellent opportunity for major Democratic figures to sink Perry now. Since the conspiracy theory is so manifestly false, so outlandishly constructed, and can be directly linked to an act of political violence, Perry could be marginalized, here, now, among the gutless centrists of the media.
arguingwithsignposts
@AA+ Bonds: tl;dr – wrong thread.
joe73112
@Dee Loralei: hopefully you have switched from OU-TU to a real game by now. (I can say that, having degrees from both schools!)
arguingwithsignposts
55 yard fg attempt? WTF?
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts: You’re god damned right they do.
And the mother frackin U of H Cougs just wiped the floor with them.
Frack the haterz!
Dee Loralei
The way the BCS scores it actually makes more sense to play easier teams for your out of conference games. I think a huge win counts more than a loss or close win to a ranked opponent. At least a few years ago it did. And they seem to change it every year. But remember most of these games are scheduled years in advance.
When Stoops first came to OU, we played at least 2 tough opponents in our out games. A couple of years it was Alabama in home/home games. And I honestly think that serves you better later in the season in your tough conference games. And in your bowl games.
And don’t get me wrong, I hate the BCS . I think it should be pure playoffs, within the bowl system. Every other sport and every other football league can do playoffs, but for some reason, none of these University Presidents can figure out how to do it.
And Boomer Sooner, another TD!
RareSanity
@efgoldman:
Too much money involved now. BCS athletes, that are high achieving students, are a rare breed.
Look at the big deal that was made about the Florida State player that was a Rhodes scholar. It IS a big deal, but it was almost like a verified sighting of a Unicorn.
The Dangerman
@arguingwithsignposts:
They play in the Rose Bowl and they sell tickets; still, not sure I’d call it a football team, per se.
I think it’s the curse of Cade McNown (who was a raging asshole) and Handicap ParkingGate (have you ever tried to park on the UCLA campus)? Ever since, the team has sucked.
Corner Stone
Ohhhh, Cocks!
arguingwithsignposts
@Dee Loralei: These days, you almost have to go undefeated to win it all.
RareSanity
@AA+ Bonds:
WTF? This is a college football thread, there will be plenty of other threads more suited for hippie punching.
So…get with the pigskin or GTFO!
Corner Stone
Ok, picking up some lo mein to go. Don’t fuck my Cocks or Boise St please.
RareSanity
@Corner Stone:
Sir, you have not lived until you have witnessed beautiful co-eds, wearing tiny “gym” shorts with “COCKS” written across the ass…
Comrade Kevin
@RareSanity: which is why “Open Thread” is in the title of the post, I guess.
arguingwithsignposts
@Comrade Kevin: There seems to be some confusion about the use of the term “open thread” around here. Seems to me an “open thread” doesn’t have a topic. AL does this a lot too – calls an open thread, then gives a topic.
Foxhunter
@Dee Loralei:
It isn’t the University Presidents making the playoff decision. It’s the conference heads and BCS chiefs keeping the conversation from ever moving beyond talk show fodder.
And….UGA still cannot wrap tackle.
RareSanity
@Comrade Kevin:
There is a modifier in front of the “open thread” in the title, check it out….go ahead, I’ll wait…
Comrade Kevin
@RareSanity: Yes, and, so?
The Dangerman
Thanks Georgia; we can all look forward to BSU getting their asses handed to them in mid-January.
Look for coal in your stockings this year.
RareSanity
@Comrade Kevin:
Definitely didn’t expect that response.
Foxhunter
@The Dangerman: The Dangerman FTW.
Good call, but all hope is not lost just yet.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@efgoldman: Richt is a good guy, he had it and now he’s lost it. I don’t care for his evangelical bullshit but I wish him well.
arguingwithsignposts
@The Dangerman: All it means to me is that there is that much more of a chance for BCS chaos. I’m rooting for 16 undefeated teams, personally.
RareSanity
Whelp, after this season, Coach Richt is going to have a lot more free time for his missionary work.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: If McGarity has a set it might be earlier.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
I bet the guy who paid $200 each for my upper deck tickets is having a great time.
eta I’m trying to remember how far ahead Va Tech was over the dawgs in the Chicken bowl Stafford’s freshman year?
Comrade Kevin
@arguingwithsignposts: I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Boise State lose to either Nevada or Fresno State.
jl
“Boise State v. Georgia/ LSU v. Oregon Open Thread”
It’s too early for you American football fanatics to be doubling up on the games.
So, is this a tag team football sporting match, like pro wrestling, or what? Who are the bad guys?
When are the Gritty Little Bruins playing? Though, not sure they are good enough to show on TV.
The Dangerman
@arguingwithsignposts:
But it only matters if you start the year ranked high (which BSU does this year)…
…hold on, Georgia for the TD. I had Auburn finished this morning, too, so…
arguingwithsignposts
@Comrade Kevin: meh, i wouldn’t be surprised either. like i said, i’m rooting for BCS chaos.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I think it was mostly timing for Richt in the beginning. Remember, his earlier years saw Spurrier and Saban go to the NFL and Phil Fulmer losing his touch. Once Urban Meyer got to Florida, Spurrier got to SC and Saban got to Bama, it’s been all downhill.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Since timing is everything it’s hard to argue.
Foxhunter
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
UGA was down 21-3 at half. Scored 28 second half points to win 31-24.
Throwin Stones
Open thread?
Anyone have the best remedy for a skunk-sprayed pooch?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: I was there with my Hokie family, I knew it was steep. They actually did a little thing in the Athens paper about our “family feud”.
The Dangerman
Ouch; just turned over to see the Ducks on the rotisserie. Way to represent the Pac
1012!Kobie
Crying shame to see Notre Dame take a colossal dump in their opener.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Throwin Stones: Catsup
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
True.
Although I don’t think Georgia is near the “elite” program most of its fans think it is, it is definitely better than this.
Foxhunter
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Cool stuff.
That was a great game atmosphere for the Dome…it was as loud as any SEC champ game I’ve atteneded there.
RareSanity
@Throwin Stones:
Tomato sauce…lots of it.
Comrade Kevin
@Throwin Stones: This seems to be a popular mixture, I’ve seen it on several sites.
JPL
@Throwin Stones: My info is decades old, but our dogs would come upon a critter and we used tomato juice and then a bath… It was awful.. But my info is decades old.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Well, I don’t think Boise was ranked #5 because they were playing us, they are a really good football team. Georgia is not.
arguingwithsignposts
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): At this point in the season, nobody is ranked based on shit. That goes for Boise or Oklahoma or whoever.
Foxhunter
@RareSanity:
THIS. I’m a UGA grad and you are spot on with this statement. Love my team, but some of the fanbase is a bit delusional about our place in the FBS food chain.
jl
This if off topic, but thought I would post this interesting news: S and P rating subprime bonds higher than US treasuries. Just a one of those bizarre oddball human interest stories people might want to follow up on.
Experts Question Ratings After S&P Gives Subprime Bonds Higher Rating Than U.S. Debt
Brian Beutler, September 2, 2011, 5:18PM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/investors-knock-sp-for-giving-subprime-bonds-higher-rating-than-us-debt-4.php?ref=fpa
Actually there are connections between this brutal corrupt asininity and football, so not totally off topic, but probably a thread full of football fans is not the place to explore that topic
Important Note: the horrible vista the lies before an SF Bay Area resident wrt football has absolutely nothing to do with me being down no F***ball. Nothing at all.
Cripes the Raiders have already stunk up the place enough for a whole season, and they haven’t even played the first regular season game.
I gotta a go. I saw a leaflet stapled to a telephone pole on my way to the market. Something about some minor league club, Goldrushers or something, looking for a quarterback. Might was well check it out.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: Yea it was fun and with Panic playing next door it was a trippy scene. My father-in-law truly loved his Hokies and it was his last trip down here.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I mean Georgia is better than they are playing. This game should, at the very least, be much more competitive.
Foxhunter
@arguingwithsignposts:
Unlsess you are Notre Dame.
/chuckle/
JPL
@Throwin Stones: We one time opened whole tomatoes and squished them to create the sauce. It sorta works but I have to admit that a few days helps also, too.
JPL
@RareSanity: why.. have you been watching the GA defense?
Dennis SGMM
How long until bail bondsmen begin to be listed on team rosters?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I dunno, we have no running game and you know how Bobo get’s hammered for his play calling. Throw in 7 penalties (so far) and I don’t know. This defense doesn’t look one bit better than they did last year even with the jumbo at nose and a year of experience in the 4-3.
eta and what I really don’t see is heart
arguingwithsignposts
@Foxhunter: okay, you got me there.
Comrade Kevin
@Foxhunter: Notre Dame is the most consistently overrated team in the history of college football.
JPL
Who can’t love announcers..the ga team has a ton of work to do... yeah you think….
Foxhunter
@arguingwithsignposts: Broken clock and all that.
Is kind of humorous, though. ND ranked #16 and loses today. By Monday they will be ranked #11 and Beano Cook will be calling for them to with the MNC (Mythical National Championship).
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@JPL: And with 15 second delay with HD there is no way to listen to the radio broadcast.
Foxhunter
@Comrade Kevin:
It’s as if the ND AD sends out a copy of Rudy to all the pollsters in July of every year. They have done nothing since….well, shit, I can’t even remember.
RareSanity
@Foxhunter:
I don’t really understand it. It’s quite obvious that while they definitely are a top 20 program, they are clearly not on the same level as Florida, LSU and Alabama on a year-to-year basis.
They are the type of program that every once in a while, if all the stars align, are good enough to compete for a national championship. “Elite” programs have rare years when they aren’t in the mix for a title.
JPL
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): nice score.. The problem hasn’t been the offense though.
arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity: Okay, we should remember that Alabama spent a number of years in sanction purgatory looking for the second coming of the Bear. They haven’t always been “elite.”
Anonymous At Work
Wasn’t gonna comment but to hear the announcers in teh OSU-LSU game EMBRACE AND CHEER ON Tressell is reprehensible. “Good for him.”?!!!?!??!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: My first Georgia game was the 60 yarder by Butler to beat Clemson. I don’t know when you were here but I’ve always thought winning that National Championship is what’s responsible for that delusion.
arguingwithsignposts
@Anonymous At Work: that sweater vest has power!
RareSanity
@JPL:
I’m saying that The University of Georgia should be fielding better teams than they have been recently.
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
This is the problem. A football team is a reflection of their coach.
The two years I played (well, I was on the team LOL) at GT, we played the Ray Geoff teams. They may not have been great, but those were some mean, nasty SOBs. These guys are are soft as tissue paper.
Yutsano
Good news: Broncs are whomping.
Bad news: the Ducks are on the menu.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: One Play Away Ray!
RareSanity
@arguingwithsignposts:
Remove the dark years of Mike Shula, and Alabama has always been relavent in college football.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Was that the team where your qb beat Georgia in Atlanta and got a DUI in Athens that night?
Foxhunter
@RareSanity: I will say, in defense of Ma UGA, that the ‘elite’ status is as dynamic as its’ ever been.
It wasn’t long ago that Alabama was fumbling around in the dark looking for the next Paul Bryant. EVERYONE in LSU land HATES Les Miles; let’s see how they fare this year without Jordan Jefferson. Florida suffered post-Spurrier and who knows what their furture may hold.
I guess my point in all of this, parity, along with national recruited has (pardon the pun) really leveled the playing field. UGA caught lightniing in a bottle during Richt’s early years, but like Bobby Cox and the Atlanta Braves, they never could get over the hump and win when it counted. Maybe his time is up, but I don’t know what we could or would expect to get in another head coach. Do I like his gospel ways? Not really, but at the same time, I don’t care to sacrifice good character for a dick like Nick Saban.
It’s a tough situation for me, since I’m not ready to have him fired, or quit. I just want some of our more rabid fan base to be a bit more realistic when it comes to expectations.
arguingwithsignposts
@RareSanity: and dennis franchione. Don’t forget coach fran! :)
JPL
Boise State looks good.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: I agree with you about Richt and it’s looking like Donnan was even worse than imagined but I think we could expect more than 6-7 and that doesn’t really tell the story of how bad the last three years have been.
Did you see Pollock on Gameday? He was really good.
Corner Stone
Boise St whupping the lowly soon to be 0-2 dawgs.
Mmmm, tasty.
Foxhunter
href=”#comment-2757596″>RareSanity: Dubose, Franchione, Shula, Bill Curry…..Alabama had plenty of down years before Saban showed up.
JPL
Mark Richt’s expressions are priceless btw.
Foxhunter
@arguingwithsignposts: And Mike Price!!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I worked at Tech for a couple of years in the late 90’s. Used to go to Stooges where the bartender named “stick” was an old Jacket QB, quite a character.
Foxhunter
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): I agree about 6-7, but go read the dawgvent. Those idiots *demand* a 10 win season every year. Not even close to being realistic. It is annoying.
Pollack – amazes me how much better suited he is for TV than he ever was for radio. Usually the other way around.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I played on the ’93 & ’94 teams, I don’t think Donnie Davis or Tommy Luginbill were roughin’ it up in Athens. Hell they weren’t roughin’ it up anywhere, we stunk. LOL
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: Oh yea, you don’t have to convince me about the idiots. I just love the game. With the Illini and Va Tech winning today it’s the first opening day in a while that more than one of my teams has won.
RareSanity
@arguingwithsignposts:
Crap! How could I forget him?
@Foxhunter:
Yeah, it was a dark coupla days for Alabama under Mike Price.
Foxhunter
@RareSanity: My father was/is GT season ticket holder, so as a kid I went to all the games until i left for college in 89.
Absolutely loved the heart of John Dewberry, and Shawn Jones was awesome. Too bad Ken Swilling never panned out to be a great one…he was a machine when healthy.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: It was Dewberry.
Foxhunter
@RareSanity: If you were on the 93 team, you may remember that during the UGA game, someone hired out one of those promotional airplanes to tow a banner that read ‘Fire Ray Goof’.
Good times in Athens. Then we hired the Ponzi-scheme’r’.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I had a bunch of buddies who played at Illinois in the 70’s. Even the guys on the scout team were really fine athletes.
Throwin Stones
Thanks everyone.
First batch of the peroxide, baking soda, and soap seemed to work pretty well.
Updates forthcoming…
wrb
@JPL:
I’m waiting for the team that wears the clunky leather black and white saddle shoes all the girls wore in my kindergarden class. Until then I have no use for football.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: I was standing in for a prof in a class when Goff was still an assistant. He brought Worley in and, thinking I was the professor, he gave me this big song and dance about how Tim had learned his lesson as and was going to bear down in the class. By the time he got out the door Worley was snoring in the back row!
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Yeah, Dewberry was before my time. I had to suffer under the insufferable Bill Lewis as a coach. O’Leary took over for him mid-season of my sophomore year, but after that year, I figured I probably wasn’t going to the NFL, so I decided to concentrate on the books.
Turns out, I hated being a student at GT, the workload put a serious cramp in my social life. I ended up transferring to a smaller school in NC to finish up my degree.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter:
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: I know his son Greg, Nice guy, high school assistant and an organic farmer.
RareSanity
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
This is true. There were guys on the scout team with me that were better than the starters. However, big college football is like the NFL. Scholarship athletes, much like 1st round draft picks, get preferential treatment. They would have to absolutely suck out loud for a scout team guy to get a chance.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Oh yea.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
I know,let’s get Murray hurt!
JPL
@wrb: They seem to like neon for shoes but it might not be long for the saddle shoe look. The football clothing designers are not ready for that TV show What Not to Wear.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Boise State was classy as shit.
arguingwithsignposts
All in all, I thought Boise State was pretty impressive. Poised, Classy. They held their own against an SEC team. Good on them.
Now you Dawgs gotta handle them Cocks next week or the season’s over.
Foxhunter
@RareSanity: I went to Tech in 89-90. Like you, it was too much school for my social yuk-yukking. Transferred to UGA to finish.
Still root for those little guys at the North Avenue Trade School…but they just don’t have the recruiting base any longer.
Night games at Bobby Dodd are something to behold….the view of the city is spectacular.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@RareSanity: Are all scout team players non-scholarship? I thought one of my pals had a ride and he never played a down in a game.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Foxhunter: We always go over for the Thursday Night VaTech_Ga Tech games. It’s on my birthday this year.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Take it easy ya’ll.
RareSanity
@Foxhunter:
I will always have a soft spot for the Jackets. I was just a football fanatic when I was a kid and it’s not like the Falcons gave much to root for, so it was UGA. I still root for GT when they play UGA though.
There is nothing to hate about GT football, it’s just a rootable program. Thursday night games in downtown Atlanta? Unbelieveable! I still remember the game we played FSU with Charlie Ward and Warrick Dunn on a Thursday night, it was awesome.
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
The scout team is usually walk-ons. There are scholarship players that are not good enough to get on the field, but they’re not on the scout team.
Most of the scout team doesn’t even travel for road games.
tesslibrarian
@arguingwithsignposts: ESPN was key to making scheduling this game.
ETA: I need to go to sleep; it was a long 9 hours on my feet at the library today. As staff reduced, they didn’t think anyone needed to be replaced because we’re under construction, but our numbers were actually up last month.
Corner Stone
@arguingwithsignposts:
Go Cocks!
Corner Stone
Is there anything better than eating using chop sticks?
Corner Stone
@tesslibrarian: Librarians.
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: You’ve led a very sheltered life.
arguingwithsignposts
@tesslibrarian: That article doesn’t have a lot to say about ESPN’s influence. Money talks, bullshit walks. Was TV involved? Sure. But the *key* to scheduling that game was the fact that Chic-Fil-A was willing to grease the skids with huge money.
And grace to you and your library.
PaulW
South Florida beat Notre Dame. While ND isn’t the top-tier team it once was, this is still a remarkable feat for USF.
Rule of thumb, never play South Florida in overtime or 2-hour rain delays.
Meanwhile, Georgia is now fighting with Oregon over the “Worst Uniform Colors In Teh History of Mankind” Award. I swear to FSM, that red-on-red uni with grey-sided helmets hurt the eyes like never before…
And I’m late to this argument. What’s going on about “librarians”?
PaulW
@Foxhunter:
FIRE RON ZOOK! Oh, wait. We did.
His replacement led UF to TWO national titles, one more than Ole Ball Coach, so I think the Gators did well post-Spurrier. ;-)
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
if you still hate a school, like colorado say, because of something between them and a school you no longer root for, i do believe college football then becomes a metaphor for life.
SiubhanDuinne
@PaulW:
USF is my alma mater. I’m always surprised at how well they do. When I was there I’m pretty sure we didn’t even HAVE a football team!
ETA: I mean that quite literally.
Omnes Omnibus
My alma mater lost to St. Scholastica, 34-21, today. Oh, no one cares about D-III? I see.
arguingwithsignposts
@Omnes Omnibus: The fighting monks of St. Scholastica?!? man, those guys know how to roll. ;)
Omnes Omnibus
@arguingwithsignposts: This bunch is apparently called the Fighting Saints.
Amir Khalid
@Corner Stone:
Yes: watching someone else’s first attempt to use chopsticks.
(Yes, I know that’s mean.)
Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: It isn’t mean; it is funny.
Yutsano
@Amir Khalid:
Adjusted. In that context, it’s hilarious.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: Have you seen people using rubber bands with them? Full disclosure: I am competent, not great, with chopsticks for an Anglo.
Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: I have seen people do the great cheat with them. It really doesn’t help all that much, in fact since it restricts the motion of the wide tips it’s actually counterproductive. But hey if it makes them feel better I say go for it.
I’m competent. I can get through a whole meal and pick up a single grain of rice and such. I’m still working on the cooking with them though.
OT: I broke down and did Book of Faces. Can you nudge me in the proper direction to locate thee?
EDIT: We can discuss upstairs also.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: Look at your fake wifey’s friends. I am by the cannon wearing sunglasses.
ETA: The French cafe/boulangerie nearby has fan-fucking-tastic tartes. The best are the aux fruits and aux citron. Plus, the staff tends to be pretty girls who speak French. How can I go wrong by going there often?
Amir Khalid
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’ve seen “trainer” chopsticks with a metal spring between the pair to hold them in the right position.
Using a rubber band would mean crossing the chopsticks, and trapping the morsel of food as though between scissor blades. I’m told that this is unrefined; one should grasp the food with the tips of the chopsticks.
I’m Malay. My people traditionally don’t use cutlery to eat with; we use only the right hand. Not the left hand; like my fellow southpaw Paul Simon said, “That’s the hand you use … well, never mind.”
Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: Sent. You’ll be the fifth person on this blog to know my full name.
WANT!! Do they ship by chance?
arguingwithsignposts
@Yutsano: @Omnes Omnibus: goddamn you all to hell with your chopsticks with their straight wooden shapes!
I used to dream of using chopsticks properly. {sobs}
Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: I learned to use them as a child. I just don’t do it enough to be better than competent. I was first taught to use them by an Indonesian friend of my Dad. For some reason, I thought that Malay used chopsticks. Obviously, I was wrong. One lives and learns. As far as the eating with the right hand only, I was the sponsoring officer of a Saudi officer when I was in the US Army Field Artillery course. Right handed eating with his family was de rigeur. BTW Arabian roasted chicken is unbelievably good.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yutsano: I can check, but not until Tuesday.
Villago Delenda Est
Georgia and Oregon are both sporting Nike’s appalling fashion atrocities this year. This is the common link between the two. Nike.
Ducks can hold out for Roses, but National Championship is pretty much out of the question barring a lot of wild and crazy stuff happening. Didn’t look good against LSU…turnovers will just ruin your day every single time.
Amir Khalid
@Omnes Omnibus:
In Southeast Asia, we get exposed to a fair bit of Chinese culture and cuisine, so it’s quite common for non-Chinese people here to be familiar with using chopsticks.
In Muslim culture the attitude toward the left hand is very much as Paul Simon describes it (is it a Jewish thing too?). Muslim southpaws probably remember being scolded at the dinner table as a kid for instinctively using the left hand. I eat rightie myself only when at formal Malay dinners where no cutlery is provided.
Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: Now that I think of it, I don’t know that I have had Malay food. I need to remedy that.
Anne Laurie
@arguingwithsignposts:
I do that so people will feel free to go off-topic. Of course, most BJ commentors will do that regardless, but if it says “Open Thread” right in the title then the hall monitors have that much less to bitch about.
You’re all (to my knowledge) voluntary participants, so I can suggest a topic to start the conversation, right?
Omnes Omnibus
@Anne Laurie:
My parole officer forces me to be here. I believe it is cruel and (certainly) unusual punishment.
Anne Laurie
@Omnes Omnibus:
And yet some people say you are a paid troll :)
#notintendedtobeafactualstatement
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@Amir Khalid:
Discouraging the use of the left hand isn’t unique to muslim cultures in Asia. My wife is Korean and I didn’t know for almost 10 years that she’s a lefty. She was “encouraged” to only use her right hand(she only uses her left hand to use scissors). Her daughter(US born and raised) managed to avoid the “encouragement”, she writes with her left hand.
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Malay food is yummy, I learned to cook some myself.
Also:
You might want to contact a Civil Libertarian about that, or according to toko_loco any Libertarian will do.
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla):
Somehow I have managed to eat a lot of Thai, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Lao, and Philippine food, but not, as far as I can recall, Malay. Odd, that.
ETA:
I know that, in her mind, civil libertarians are libertarians, but I am sure it works the other way such that all libertarians are civil libertarians. But who knows?
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus:
That should read “I am not sure it works…”
Amir Khalid
@Omnes Omnibus:
If you’ve had Indonesian food, that arguably you have had Malay food. Malays and Indonesians are of the same ethnic stock, we speak more or less the same language, and we have pretty much the same culture with what are essentially local variations.
Steve
@RareSanity: RareSanity, I went to law school with Bill Lewis’s son (at UGA). Let’s just say the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree.