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Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

Dear media: perhaps we ought to let Donald Trump speak for himself!

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When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

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Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

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Monday Evening Open Thread: Stephen Miller Is Not Having A Good Day

by Anne Laurie|  October 6, 20256:49 pm| 74 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Trump Crime Cartel

CNN: Does the administration still plan to abide by that court ruling?
STEPHEN MILLER: The administration filed an appeal this morning … … …
CNN: Stephen? Stephen? Can you hear me?
MILLER: … … …

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 6, 2025 at 2:47 PM

Earlier:

CNN: Isn't that hyperbolic to call them terrorists?
STEPHEN MILLER: No. If anything I'm understating the severity of the situation

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 6, 2025 at 2:56 PM

Stephen Miller: "This is the textbook example of domestic terrorism … it must be put down."

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 6, 2025 at 2:54 PM

CNN: You are gonna charge someone with terrorism?
STEPHEN MILLER: Well, I would like to

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 6, 2025 at 2:59 PM

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Stephens on TV a lot today, and some of it is definitely walking back some of his shit.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 6, 2025 at 3:37 PM

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Get the feeling Wiles shoved him out there and told him to clean up his mess.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 6, 2025 at 3:38 PM

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The reporters are getting pushier with him… do they smell blood ichor?

the smugness of Stephen Miller in dealing with reporters is off the charts

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 6, 2025 at 3:24 PM

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Never be the vizier caught publicly abrogating the emperor’s authority, Mr. Miller!

This needs to be repeated.
Stephen Miller is effectively the President of the United States.

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— Michael E. Carter (@deckofcarterhist.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 1:37 PM

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It’s clear that Stephen Miller is the domestic terrorist…

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— Dutchy Patrick (@dutchiepatrick.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:30 AM

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Stephen Miller declares Trump-appointed Judge Immergut an insurrectionist for upholding the constitution — keeping him from mobilizing Oregon’s national guard without them

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— The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 7:13 AM

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DAILY BEAST: “White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller called out after a fire tore through a South Carolina judge’s house… Goodstein had reportedly been receiving death threats for a few weeks…” www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-mill…

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— The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social) October 6, 2025 at 8:28 AM

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Stephen Miller is trying to sell this, which means Stephen miller has someone he needs to sell this to.

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— Molly Jong-Fast (@mollyjongfast.bsky.social) October 6, 2025 at 6:58 AM

Monday Evening Open Thread: Stephen Miller Is Not Having A Good DayPost + Comments (74)

Monday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  October 6, 20253:09 pm| 66 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Coming up for air after working most of the morning – looks like we can use an open thread!

Monday Afternoon Open ThreadPost + Comments (66)

TrumpCo Salutes the Fleet: Helloooo, Sailors!

by Anne Laurie|  October 6, 202511:13 am| 185 Comments

This post is in: Military, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel, Trumpery

Navy vet corrects Melania:

we don’t say hooya that is weird marine corps shit

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:13 PM

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Oh my god

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:01 PM

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So 1) absolutely horrifying but 2) I suppose I need to find a longer version of the clip because at least here it looks like the jovial clapping stops basically dead when he makes his 'Democrats' comment.

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— "Online Rent-a-Sage" Bret Devereaux (@bretdevereaux.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 7:29 PM

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Hmm. We were still fighting in Afghanistan during Trump’s first term. How come we didn’t win “easy” then? Why did Trump sign a one-sided agreement with the Taliban that allowed them to take over?

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— Max Boot (@maxboot.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:55 PM

Also the idea that we lost Vietnam because we weren't brutal enough is uh…

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:49 PM

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no sir please do go on, tell me more about the japanese, i am all ears

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:43 PM

"And this is why, it is my great honor to announce, we're bringing back battleships. Gold, beautiful battleships."

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:25 PM

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Stolen valor here as Trump seems to take credit for … 9/11?

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— Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:54 PM

LMAO.
CIA began aggressively tracking Osama Bin Laden in 1995 and they setup a whole unit called Alec Station in 1996 that focused on him and Al-Qaeda.
They were aware of him since the late 1980s.

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— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 7:37 PM

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Trump, speaking to the Navy: "I was president in 2016, and then they rigged the election on me. And then we caught them, didn't we? We caught them."

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— The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) October 5, 2025 at 5:41 PM

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Idiocracy was unrealistic only because we got dumber quicker than the movie anticipated

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 5, 2025 at 4:34 PM

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Dancing to a Village People song with a bunch of sailors.

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— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 6:44 PM

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“Cousin Bobby — who is never gonna make Eagle Scout, I don’t think — was supposed to be keeping an eye on Ranty Granpa Don, but he got distracted, again… “

every enlisted person in that crowd is just counting the seconds until they can go crush beers and play spades

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:09 PM

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Naval Academy football head cheerleader is actually a good full time job for him. That is something he actually appears to be qualified for.

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— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 7:08 AM

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I'm afraid that this Navy celebration has roughly the following energy:
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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 4:15 PM

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People Do Not Like What’s Happening

by WaterGirl|  October 6, 202510:00 am| 103 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

We must be clear-eyed about the awfulness that is happening around us, and to us.

But remember:   The doom and hopelessness worldview is not by definition the most accurate.

1, 2, 3.

Not sure how regular people separate the economy and inflation?

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This is good news for the good guys.

Though, predictably, immigration has the least approval because it is not affecting all of us directly.

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This is important.  People voted for T. for some terrible reasons.

But even for those people, it appears that even T. has taken it too far, and it’s going to get worse.

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In this recent analysis I show that “threats to democracy” have, in recent weeks, risen to an issue of great concern to voters, far outpacing their concern about their health care for example. Democrats simply must, as we go deeper into this debate with Trump, make their escalating authoritarianism part of our narrative and agenda. Rising costs and health care are a good start. But after everything that has happened in recent days – the Comey indictment, the speech to the Generals, the regime’s expansion into more and more cities, their assault on Congress’s Article 1 powers, their shutting down of our government – we simply must be contesting their escalating assault on the Constitutional order and all of us far more aggressively, and make it part of our rallying cry, particularly as we build towards the next No Kings Day on October 18th.

  • Anyone who talks with their friends or neighbors.
  • Anyone who talks with their family.
  • Anyone who writes anything on the internet.

We are all contributing to the narrative.

 

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Every Single One of Us Should Call

by WaterGirl|  October 6, 20259:16 am| 18 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Political Action, Politics

Zoom With Four Directions Set for Thursday at 7 pm ET 1

I am on my way out the door, so I am going to cheat and just paste in Jeffro’s comment:

Republicans, Democrats, Independents…you KNOW this is vile and wrong to abuse our nation’s military like this:

trump to our nation’s generals and admirals, Oct 3: “…the cities that are run by the radical left Democrats…we’re going to straighten them out one by one. And this is going to be a major part for some of the people in this room. That’s a war too. It’s a war from within”.

trump to our nation’s naval cadets, Oct 5: “we have to take care of this little gnat that’s on our shoulder called the Democrats”.

And every one of us knows full well where this is going, too – unless YOU do something about it, today.

#CallCongress (202) 224-3121

Tell your Congressman (R or D or I) that this is completely unacceptable from a commander-in-chief.

No more partisan speeches to our nation’s soldiers and sailors.

No more abusing their service by putting them in the middle of politics.

NO MORE

No matter who represents you, you should call.  We should also call our senators, red or blue.

OUR VOICES NEED TO BE HEARD.

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Monday Morning Open Thread: TrumpCo Take Yr Healthcare

by Anne Laurie|  October 6, 20256:31 am| 140 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, World's Best Healthcare (If You Can Afford It)

Sen. Booker: "The president himself has said it's the president's responsibility to bring the parties together and get a budget passed…And the president hasn't done that."

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— The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) October 5, 2025 at 4:10 PM

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Sen. Ruben Gallego: "We know that Senate Republicans want to make a deal. They understand that 24 million of Americans are going to have their premiums doubled starting November 1…Four million Americans are going to lose their healthcare altogether."

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— The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) October 5, 2025 at 1:21 PM

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Doocy: "So the Democratic position is that illegal immigrants should not have any access to taxpayer-funded health insurance?"
Sen. Mark Kelly: "Federal law is that undocumented individuals do not have access to medicare, medicaid, food stamps, or the ACA. That's the law."

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— The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) October 5, 2025 at 3:40 PM

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Very hard not to conclude that the Dem messaging strategy of focusing on healthcare has been highly successful at shaping public impressions of the shutdown fight so far despite being hated on here to the point that major accounts were actively adopting GOP framing to attack it

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— Nute (@nutedawn.bsky.social) October 4, 2025 at 9:29 AM

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Oh my god they are going to absolutely annihilate rural america

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 2:04 PM

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… The Social Security Administration evaluates disability claims by considering age, work experience and education to determine if a person can adjust to other types of work. Older applicants, typically over 50, have a better chance of qualifying because age is treated as a limitation in adapting to many jobs.

But now officials are considering eliminating age as a factor entirely or raising the threshold to age 60, according to three people familiar with the plans who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share private discussions…

Jack Smalligan, a senior policy fellow at the Urban Institute and a former Office of Management and Budget official through five administrations, wrote in a recent paper that if the proposed rule reduced eligibility for the disability program by 10 percent, 750,000 fewer people would receive benefits for all or part of the next decade. In addition, 80,000 fewer widows and children would receive benefits because of the loss in eligibility of a spouse or parent. That would lead to $82 billion less paid out in benefits over 10 years, Smalligan estimated.

Smalligan said research has shown that a majority of older Americans who apply for disability benefits don’t get another job. If the rule didn’t consider age as a factor, more older disabled workers would probably start taking early retirement benefits, significantly reducing their monthly benefit amount.

Older workers who claim retirement benefits at age 62 rather than receive Social Security’s disability insurance would receive 30 percent less in benefits for the rest of their lives.

“The criteria already is really tight enough that we’re actually restricting some people we probably should allow,” Smalligan said in an interview…

People familiar with the proposed changes said they are a priority of Russell Vought, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, who sought during Trump’s first term to update the disability rolls through executive action. At the start of Trump’s second term, the White House budget office urged Leland Dudek, the acting commissioner at the time, to pursue rule changes shortly after he took office.

Conservatives have long argued that since Americans are living longer and fewer have jobs that require manual labor, many physically disabled workers could adapt to desk work, broadening their work options and resulting in fewer people being granted disability benefits. Social Security officials prepared to issue a similar rule at the end of the first Trump administration but ran out of time…

Sen. Ron Wyden (Oregon), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, argued that the rule change is just the first step in broader Republican plans to cut Social Security.

“This is Phase One of the Republican campaign to force Americans to work into old age to access their earned Social Security benefits, and represents the largest cut to disability insurance in American history,” Wyden said in a statement to The Post. “Americans with disabilities have worked and paid into Social Security just like everybody else, and they do not deserve the indignity of more bureaucratic water torture to get what they paid for.”…

No ACA plans because premiums are too high, no disability, no food stamps. Oh also we closed all the hospitals.
RIP rurals.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 2:05 PM

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Guess where Comer, a wealthy man, gets his healthcare? From the government.

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— davidrlurie (@davidrlurie.bsky.social) October 3, 2025 at 10:19 PM

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GOP Death Cult Open Thread: Mike Johnson, Chief Liar

by Anne Laurie|  October 5, 202510:50 pm| 58 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, World's Best Healthcare (If You Can Afford It)

Welker: They say the house is not in session because you don't want to swear in the newly elected democratic congresswoman who would be a critical vote to releasing the Epstein files.
Johnson: It's totally absurd. This has nothing to do with that. It's another red herring.

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— Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 2:24 PM

If the God Johnson claims to worship exists, Pastor Mike is *not* going to enjoy his afterlife.

Fact Check: Mike Johnson's Biggest Lies About Health Care and Undocumented Immigrants
flip.it/IMO_oe

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— Lee Heffner (@leeheffer.bsky.social) October 5, 2025 at 3:59 PM

Per Rolling Stone, “The Republican speaker continues to push the false narrative that Democrats are responsible for shutting down the government because they want to fund health care for undocumented people”:

House Speaker Mike Johnson continued to blame Democrats for the government shutdown, using misleading Republican talking points that insist that Democratic leadership is pushing to fund health care for undocumented immigrants.

Johnson said Sunday on CBS’s Face the Nation that Democrats “want to spend $1.5 trillion, and they want to return hard-working taxpayer dollars to fund health care for illegal aliens. It is in their bill. Go to speaker.gov and see it for yourself. Page 57, Section 2141. They’re using this for political games, and it is shameful, and real people are getting hurt.”

“I have looked at that text,” host Margaret Brennan replied. “It doesn’t explicitly say what you are indicating.”…

We went to the Speaker’s site, which links to the Democratic proposal. The specific section Johnson mentioned — section 2141 on page 57 — repeals the changes to Medicaid made by Trump and the Republicans’ One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA). Brennan’s pushback got Johnson to admit that he’s not just talking about “illegal aliens” but also non-citizens, as in people here legally. It’s an important distinction.

It’s important to note that undocumented immigrants broadly do not qualify for Medicaid, Affordable Care Act subsidies, or other federally-funded health care coverage…

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Further, under the OBBBA, many lawfully present immigrants who are eligible for Medicaid — such as asylum seekers, refugees, and survivors of human trafficking — will be rendered ineligible for the program in 2026 thanks to a section of the law titled “Alien Medicaid eligibility.” If that provision stays in place, then next year, approximately 1.4 million immigrants lawfully in the U.S. will lose health coverage because Republicans severely restricted access to lawful permanent residents, Cuban and Haitian immigrants, and citizens of the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Palau. Democrats are pressing to reverse that.

Johnson also claimed on NBC’s Meet the Press: “What the Democrats are demanding is that illegal aliens that care for them in an emergency room should be reimbursed at a higher rate.”

Welker: Are you suggesting that ER doctors check people's immigration status before they render emergency care?

Johnson No. Again, it's another red herring. What the Democrats are demanding is that illegal aliens that care for them in an emergency room should be reimbursed at a… pic.twitter.com/TxX4Zeb7ga

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 5, 2025

Hospitals may be reimbursed for emergency room care given to undocumented immigrants due to a Reagan-era law (the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act) that requires emergency rooms provide screening exams and stabilization care to everyone who comes through their doors seeking care, regardless of immigration status. Under the OBBBA, those reimbursements will decrease. Hospitals would still be obligated to deliver care to everyone, but they will not receive the same amount as they would have before OBBBA, also known as H.R. 1.

“H.R. 1 reduces the federal matching funds for states for some of this emergency care,” explained Leonardo Cuello, research professor at Georgetown University’s McCourt School of Public Policy’s Center for Children and Families. “This provision does not actually change coverage for immigrants, and indeed the CBO scored it as having no impact on coverage, because hospitals must still provide the health care, and states must still pay them for the health care, it’s just that the federal government will pay a smaller share of the cost. In other words, it’s just a cut to federal funding for states to reimburse providers furnishing emergency services (which is still required).” …

Johnson on NBC accused Democrats of wanting to “to claw back $50 billion that we put in for rural hospitals to prop them up,” but that funding only offsets approximately one-third of the federal Medicaid funding that rural hospitals lost due to the OBBBA. Fully restoring Medicaid funding to rural hospitals would do more for them than the GOP’s five-year temporary rural health fund.

Democrats are also insisting on extending federal subsidies for people who purchase coverage through the ACA marketplace. If Republicans get their way, and those subsidies are lost, then ACA premiums could more than double. An estimated 10 million Americans, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, could lose their health insurance between the GOP’s Medicaid cuts and the loss of subsidies…

 

TL; DR — if you want something easier to share on social media:

FACT FOCUS: Democrats did not shut down the government to give health care to illegal immigrants.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) October 4, 2025 at 5:00 PM

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