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TGIFriday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  September 26, 20256:35 am| 175 Comments

This post is in: Gun Issues, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Democrats are standing up to Trump, and now he's threatening to lay off hundreds of thousands of Americans and burn down the United States government.
It's dangerous, irresponsible madness. Trump is failing, unpopular and losing his sh-t. Dems are right to fight for something better than this.

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— Simon Rosenberg (@simonwdc.bsky.social) September 25, 2025 at 6:44 AM

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The Trump Administration does not do stupid things as part of a genius plan. The Trump Administration does stupid things because it is, in many ways, stupid. Evil and stupid so often go together like peanut butter and jelly, but, you know, evil and stupid.

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— Jane Coaston (@janecoaston.bsky.social) September 23, 2025 at 10:55 AM

It’s worse! The evil genius who is more powerful bc smart & so more dangerous is just a myth. A fiction.
The real danger of evil people is they put their stupidity into action & make the whole objective situation irrational & incoherent & really hard for smart, responsible people to respond to!

— Jonathan Heaps (@jonathanrheaps.bsky.social) September 23, 2025 at 2:12 PM

It’s much worse. Because genius has a strategy, stupidity has a cause.

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— Jane Coaston (@janecoaston.bsky.social) September 23, 2025 at 2:13 PM

Stages on the Trump Retribution Tour:

Ed Martin’s intimidation tactics against FBI agent who responded to Sandy Hook is too much even for Todd Blanche.
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— Barb McQuade (@barbmcquade.bsky.social) September 25, 2025 at 6:48 AM

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REMINDER: James Comey's daughter, Maurene Comey, who was one of the lead attorneys that prosecuted Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, was wrongfully terminated from the DOJ just one week before Todd Blanche cozily met with Maxwell.
Now, her father is being vindictively prosecuted by Trump.

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— Katie Phang (@katiephang.bsky.social) September 25, 2025 at 8:22 PM

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Open Thread: On Learning to Make Good Choices

by Anne Laurie|  September 20, 20253:16 pm| 116 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Gun Issues, Religion

Another excellent 9-minute explainer from Sarah Taber:

Did a thing on the Charlie Kirk shooting. Some thoughts on growing up LDS & how it can prime people for any & all kinds of radicalization. And how quick the right wing was to turn on Mormons.
youtu.be/coJF2wq5BHY

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— Sarah Taber (@sarahtaber.bsky.social) September 17, 2025 at 5:14 PM

watching steve bannon & curtis yarvin try a little beef with the mormons as a treat like oh buddy. oh pal. I'm not sure if I would make that choice if it were me

— Sarah Taber (@sarahtaber.bsky.social) September 17, 2025 at 8:18 AM

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Shot, chaser (I grew up in the Catholic church):

Cardinals have to submit their resignation when they turn 75, but the pope will in some cases decline to accept the resignation & the cardinal stays in his position.
Dolan is 75.
I’m guessing Leo will accept Dolan’s resignation without hesitation.

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— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) September 19, 2025 at 11:51 AM


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Oh, you say Cardinal Dolan is not just a blasphemer. he's also a pedo protector?

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— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) September 19, 2025 at 10:22 AM

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Charlie Kirk Died Doing What He Loved

by Anne Laurie|  September 10, 20259:51 pm| 94 Comments

This post is in: Gun Issues, Republican Politics

Charlie Kirk in 2023: "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.
That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
gizmodo.com/charlie-kirk…

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— Matt Novak (@paleofuture.bsky.social) September 10, 2025 at 7:06 PM

Per the local Deseret News:

… Deseret News reporters Emma Pitts and Eva Terry were covering Kirk’s UVU rally. About 20 minutes after Kirk appeared at noon, he engaged in a Q&A with students.

The reporters then heard a gunshot from behind them, and it appeared Kirk was struck in the the neck during during a Q&A with students…

Pitts called it a “terrible irony” that the question Kirk was responding to at the time of the shooting was about mass shootings in America.

“The first question was if Kirk knew how many mass shooters were transgender,” she said. “He said, ‘Too many.’”

A second question on the issue was asked. Before he could answer, he was shot, Pitts said…

Political violence disproportionately hurts people with less power, not people with more power. Political violence will disproportionately hurt people of color and women and LGBTQ people. It’s not fair, but that’s the way it works. Celebrating political violence means at best indifference to that.

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— Stand With Chicago Hat (@kenwhite.bsky.social) September 10, 2025 at 3:09 PM

Wise words from Ken White:

/2 We can, and should, discuss whether political violence is inevitable, or whether we’re fooling ourselves because we’ve been swimming in it for a long time. You can note that political violence against the Left (like Melissa Hortman) is treated differently than political violence against the right

/3 We can also call out who has encouraged and normalized political violence and made it government policy. We can note the irony of it in many cases. But celebrating it — yelling “hooray” — is like celebrating going to war. People will die and it won’t be fun.

/4 But it’s perfectly reasonable to point out that the people who will wave the bloody shirt over this — the people who support Charlie Kirk — are evil hypocrites who endorse and excuse violence every day. Refraining from celebrating doesn’t mean tolerating bullshit.

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/5 Watch for the response to be, barely disguised, “they’re doing to us what we want to do to them and that’s not fair!”

/6 Also: if a Left-wing activist even remotely as strident as Charlie Kirk had been assassinated, Charlie Kirk would have smirked and applauded, as would have many of the people who are going to be loudest about Charlie Kirk. Don’t buy the hypocrisy.

/7 Also: I’m not saying “violence has no place in America.” Violence is as American as cherry pie and has always been rampant. I’m speaking to whether it’s wise or helpful to good goals to encourage this kind of violence.

(See, for example, the general right-wing response to Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman’s murder.)

When a right-wing man murdered Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota, progressives asked MAGA to tone down the rhetoric to prevent more violence. Within hours of Kirk’s murder, motive still unknown, the right is demanding that the government wage a campaign of violence against their enemies.

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko.bsky.social) September 10, 2025 at 5:13 PM

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As stated earlier by others, it does not matter what you post or do not post here. The right wing has their narrative they’re going to push, because they understand they are at war with democracy and that propaganda *works.*

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— Chris Kluwe (@chriswarcraft.bsky.social) September 10, 2025 at 3:56 PM

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That both of Turning Point USA’s founders are dead from public health crises their organization worked hard to enable is a parable for our time.

— Alex Wild (@alexwild.bsky.social) September 10, 2025 at 6:04 PM

(The cofounder Bill Montgomery died of COVID in 2020)

— Alex Wild (@alexwild.bsky.social) September 10, 2025 at 6:05 PM

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Every accusation a confession…

"When do we get to use the guns? To k*ll these people"
asks Charlie Kirk supporter (2021) Universal warning

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— Chris⚖️Justice (@chrisjustice01.bsky.social) September 10, 2025 at 5:04 PM

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Gun Issues Open Thread: The Maine Survivors Sue… the Army

by Anne Laurie|  September 5, 20255:19 pm| 49 Comments

This post is in: Gun Issues

Survivors of Maine mass shooting and victims’ relatives sue US government alleging negligence

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— MassLive (@masslive.bsky.social) September 3, 2025 at 8:25 AM

Maybe I’m just an optimist, but it feels like there’s a vibe shift occurring when it comes to Our Sacred Second Amendment (As Defined By Paranoid White Supremacists). Per the Associated Press:

LEWISTON, Maine (AP) — Survivors of Maine’s deadliest mass shooting and relatives of victims sued the federal government Wednesday, alleging that the U.S. Army could and should have stopped one of its reservists from carrying out what they call “one of the most preventable mass tragedies in American history.”

Eighteen people were killed in October 2023 when Robert Card opened fire at a bowling alley and a bar and grill. An independent commission appointed by Maine’s governor later concluded that there were numerous opportunities for intervention by both Army officials and civilian law enforcement as Card’s mental health deteriorated. He was found dead by suicide two days after the shootings…

The lawsuit, filed in federal court on behalf of more than 100 survivors and victims’ family members, accuses the U.S. government of negligence, saying its conduct “directly and proximately caused the mass shooting.” It alleges that Army officials and others “failed to act reasonably, broke the promises they made to Card’s family and their community, violated mandatory polices, procedures and disregarded directives and orders.”

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“By March 2023, the United States and its personnel knew Card was paranoid, delusional, violent, and lacked impulse control. The Army knew he had access to firearms. The Army promised to remove his guns but did not fulfill that promise,” the lawsuit states. “Worse, through its acts and omissions, the Army withheld information and actively misled local law enforcement, thereby preventing others from intervening and separating Card from his weapons.”

“For nearly two years now, the families and victims have heard silence from the Army as they have all carried with them their grief and their physical scars,” attorney Travis Brennan said at the news conference. “The families and the victims deserve answers and accountability. They deserve resolution and peace.”…

The attorneys began the process of suing the government a little less than a year ago when they filed notices of claim, saying the Army did not act despite being aware of Card’s mental health decline. Card’s mental health spiral led to his hospitalization and left him paranoid, delusional and expressing homicidal ideations, the claim said. He even produced a “hit list” of those he wanted to attack, attorneys said…

Card’s family members and fellow reservists said he had exhibited delusional and paranoid behavior months before the shootings. He was hospitalized by the Army during training in July 2023 in New York, where his unit was training West Point cadets, but Army Reserve officials have acknowledged that no one made sure Card was taking his medication or complying with his follow-up care at home in Bowdoin, Maine.

The starkest warning came in a September text from a fellow reservist: “I believe he’s going to snap and do a mass shooting.”

“From the start, the Army disregarded its mandatory policies and procedures, and regulations when dealing with Card,” the lawsuit states. “Despite the serious issues Card presented at the company or battalion level, they were not reported up the chain of command to senior military officials with the knowledge, experience, and resources to address them. Instead, low-ranking, part-time personnel mismanaged the risks, resulting in disastrous consequences.”

Army officials conducted their own investigation after the shootings that Lt. Gen. Jody Daniels, then the chief of the Army Reserve, said found “a series of failures by unit leadership.” Three Army Reserve leaders were disciplined for dereliction of duty, according to the report. When the governor’s commission released its final report last August, the Army issued a statement saying it was “committed to reviewing the findings and implementing sound changes to prevent tragedies like this from recurring.”

The Lewiston shootings led to new guns laws in Maine, a state with a long tradition of hunting and gun ownership. The laws prompted legal action on the part of gun rights advocates in the state and remain a contentious topic nearly two years after the shootings…

(Yes, I am working on a post about the Annunciation shootings.)

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Children Murdered in Minneapolis Mass Murder at Catholic Church

by @heymistermix.com|  August 27, 202512:23 pm| 149 Comments

This post is in: Gun Issues

Awful:

Two children, aged eight and 10, killed in shooting with 17 others injured, including 14 children

Two children, ages 8 and 10 were killed, with 17 others being injured, 14 of those being children, said Minneapolis police chief Brian O’Hara.

He said:

“This worship service was marking the first week of school for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic school.

During the mass, a gunman approached on the outside, on the side of the building and began firing a rifle through the church windows, towards the children sitting in the pews at the mass.

He struck children and worshippers that were inside the building. The shooter was armed with a rifle, a shotgun and a pistol. This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and other people worshipping. The sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible …

Two young children, ages 8 and 10 were killed where they sat in the pews, their parents have been notified. 17 other people were injured, 14 of them being children. Two of those children are in critical condition. The coward who fired these shots ultimately took his own life in the rear of the church.”

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Stern Grey Dawn Open Thread: Another Judgement Against Alex Jones

by Anne Laurie|  June 15, 20245:44 am| 28 Comments

This post is in: Gun Issues, Information Warfare, Something Good Open Thread

Like many graduating seniors, members of Newtown High School’s class of 2024 expect bittersweet feelings at their commencement ceremony.

But about 60 of them will also be carrying the emotional burden that comes from having survived the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. pic.twitter.com/nNir2A57bY

— The Associated Press (@AP) June 12, 2024

Alex Jones was ordered to liquidate his personal assets Friday, as a bankruptcy judge was still considering forcing him to sell his far-right website InfoWars to begin paying the roughly $1.5 billion in damages he owes for claiming the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a hoax.

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— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost.com) Jun 14, 2024 at 4:01 PM

Per the Associated Press, “Alex Jones’ personal assets to be sold to pay $1.5B Sandy Hook debt. Company bankruptcy is dismissed”:

… Judge Christopher Lopez approved converting Jones’ proposed personal bankruptcy reorganization to a liquidation. But Lopez threw out the case of his company, Austin, Texas-based Free Speech Systems, after failed attempts by Jones to reach an agreement with Sandy Hook families on his proposals to reorganize and keep operating the company while paying them millions of dollars.

It wasn’t immediately clear what will happen in the coming weeks to Free Speech Systems, Infowars’ parent company, which Jones built into a multimillion-dollar moneymaker over the past 25 years by selling dietary supplements and other products. But both Jones and lawyers for the Sandy Hook families said they expect Infowars to cease operating at some point because of the huge debt.

A trustee appointed Friday in Jones’ personal bankruptcy case to oversee the liquidation now has control over his assets, including Infowars, according to lawyers for Sandy Hook families.

Dismissal of Free Speech Systems’ case means the families can now move immediately to collect on the $1.5 billion in state courts in Texas and Connecticut where they won defamation lawsuits against Jones and the company. It’s possible Infowars will continue operating during the collection efforts, which could include selling off the company’s assets.

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Jones, who smiled as the judge dismissed the company’s case, called in to Infowars after the court hearing and predicted more battles in the state courts. “The bizarre political attempts to hijack the operation have failed,” he said, and added that he would find another way to broadcast his shows if he loses Infowars…

Chris Mattei, a lawyer for the Sandy Hook families, called Infowars “soon-to-be defunct” as his clients move to collect on the debt in state courts. He said the families will also pursue Jones’ future earnings.

“Today is a good day,” Mattei said in a text message after the hearing. “Alex Jones has lost ownership of Infowars, the corrupt business he has used for years to attack the Connecticut families and so many others. … Alex Jones is neither a martyr nor a victim. He is the perpetrator of the worst defamation in American history.”…

Much more at the link. The Newtown families are still a long way from seeing justice, and Jones himself will continue to broadcast lies and conspirarcy theories as long as he has access to so much as a prison library laptop, but at least he’s feeling some tiny portion of the stress he’s inflicted for so many years.

Who is Alex Jones? The conspiracist and dietary supplement salesman built an empire over decades https://t.co/0DAnEskAlO

— The Associated Press (@AP) June 14, 2024

Because this is America…

Demolition of the Parkland classroom building where 17 died in 2018 shooting is set to begin https://t.co/r9TilYHSIN

— The Associated Press (@AP) June 14, 2024

… The victims’ families were invited to hammer off a piece of the building before the demolition began. Lori Alhadeff, whose 14-year-old daughter Alyssa died, was one who did, finding it cathartic.

“Hammering away at the building helped to release some of my pain,” said Alhadeff, who was elected to the Broward County school board after her daughter’s death on a pledge to improve campus safety. She is now its chair.

Officials plan to complete the demolition and cleanup before the school’s 3,300 students return in August from summer vacation — to protect the school’s other buildings, it wasn’t imploded. Most of the school’s current students were in elementary school when the shooting happened.

Since the shooting, the building has loomed over campus, locked behind a screened fence that blocked the bottom floor. It was kept up to serve as evidence at the shooter’s 2022 penalty trial. Jurors toured its bullet-pocked and blood-stained halls, but spared him a death sentence. He is serving a sentence of life without parole.

Over the last year, some victims’ relatives have led Vice President Kamala Harris, members of Congress, FBI Director Christopher Wray, school officials, police officers and other invitees from around the country on tours of the building. They mostly demonstrated how improved safety measures like bullet-resistant glass in door windows, a better alarm system and doors that lock from the inside could have saved lives…

Max Schachter, whose 14-year-old son Alex died, said Friday that he knows the tours he helped organize will save lives as officials take what they learned and use it to harden schools in their jurisdictions.

“You have to prioritize school safety because you can’t teach dead children,” he said…

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Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread: Sow the Wind, Reap the Whirlwind

by Anne Laurie|  February 16, 20244:40 am| 49 Comments

This post is in: Gun Issues, Open Threads, Republican Venality

3 shooters, 2 under 18, police say it was related to an argument. In our old neighborhood we had about 3 years of that nihilistic crap. Guys felt they were being “disrespected” on FB so they’d shoot at each other. They killed a few bystanders & wounded probably a dozen more https://t.co/yXhuTiYUSF

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) February 15, 2024

We need a *broken* hearts button for this site…

— Anne Laurie (@AnneLaurie14895) February 16, 2024

As information comes forward today about underage shooters at Chief’s event yesterday…remember Missouri Republicans passed laws making it LEGAL FOR MINORS TO OPEN CARRY WEAPONS IN PUBLIC.

— Claire McCaskill (@clairecmc) February 15, 2024

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Per CNN, “Kansas City shooting may have stemmed from personal dispute, police say; 2 juveniles detained”:

Two juveniles have been detained in connection with Wednesday’s shooting following the Kansas City Chiefs’ Super Bowl celebration rally, which left one dead and more than 20 wounded, police said.

At least 23 victims have been identified, including a 43-year-old woman who died, police chief Stacey Graves said at a news conference Thursday. The other 22 victims range in age from 8 to 47, Graves said, adding that half are younger than 16.

The shooting appears to have been a “dispute between several people that ended in gunfire,” Graves said, noting there is no indication of a “nexus to terrorism or homegrown violent extremism.”

On Wednesday, Graves said three people had been detained and an unspecified number of guns recovered by police. On Thursday, a Kansas City police spokesperson told CNN one person who was in custody was “determined to not be involved.” Two juvenile teens remained in custody for further investigation, police said.

Several law enforcement officials similarly told CNN the shooting was believed to have been the result of a personal dispute in the area, and not an attack on the celebration itself…

Wednesday’s was at least the 48th mass shooting in the United States so far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which like CNN counts those in which four or more are shot, not including a perpetrator…

Missouri Governor Mike Parson, last seen running from gunfire at the Chief's celebration in Kansas City, signed into law last August a provision that would nullify federal gun laws in the state. pic.twitter.com/oGwL5k3c65

— fritzie urquhart (@fritzie4art) February 14, 2024

No. "The adults" did not fail the children of America.
ONE GROUP of adults, who happen to be Republican politicians, have failed the children of America.
I know that YOU know better.

— soonergrunt ???? A Capybara Appreciation Account (@soonergrunt) February 15, 2024

Which ones, you coward? Say which ones or you're just as complicit in 'failing the children of America' as they are. Mealy mouthed bullshit is why they get away with it. https://t.co/Vz0SVDITgb

— Centrism Fan Acct ?? (@Wilson__Valdez) February 15, 2024

Besides being from Missouri, what do Josh Hawley and Mike Parson have in common?

They both run like hell from the guns and violence they created.

— Jess Piper (@piper4missouri) February 15, 2024

Remember, social media peeps: Sharing is caring!

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— Edward (Slava Ukraini) (@EdwardStephenL) February 15, 2024

If you give us power, we will try to save these kids. It will be hard. And our party will be disorganized and imperfect maddening and not good enough. But we will give a shit about these kids who deserve to be safe. https://t.co/d7ZPimbGU9

— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) February 15, 2024

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