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Late Night Navel-gazing

by John Cole|  December 18, 20101:40 am| 89 Comments

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If wingnuts are mad at Mexico for operating drones and want to do something about it, does this mean that they hate the Mexico for their freedom?

American exceptionalism is so confusing some days.

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  1. 1.

    kdaug

    December 18, 2010 at 1:47 am

    No, these are Israeli drones bought by Mexico, so it’s all good.

  2. 2.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 1:51 am

    I hate them for their cheap weed. Many angles to fuck with in that statement.

  3. 3.

    Steeplejack

    December 18, 2010 at 1:52 am

    Cole, you are possibly in a weirder place than I am tonight. I have been listening to “They Reminisce over You” over and over. I am whitey-white-mc_white–and old–and I love this song.

    But I also like this, which could be a good theme song for this blog. “Question . . . why is it . . .?”

    Steep +2

  4. 4.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    December 18, 2010 at 1:52 am

    @kdaug:

    Yup. If they were from Russia you can bet that someone would be raising hell right now. Well some repub probably will be raising it but it’ll be at the local level and ignored by the rest of the repub pols and media.

    That way they can get their hate of Joos and Messicans on, raise money and win elections!

    The important things that the GOP loves about America.

  5. 5.

    Comrade Luke

    December 18, 2010 at 1:54 am

    Congress will never bomb Mexico; they’d have no one left to clean their homes.

  6. 6.

    Zam

    December 18, 2010 at 1:55 am

    OT but seriously WTF?

  7. 7.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 1:56 am

    @Steeplejack: How you be, Steepman? How’s retail in the crazy season going?

    Cole, you need to spoon with Lily, methinks.

  8. 8.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    December 18, 2010 at 1:58 am

    @Bnut:

    The price of local weed has been dropping over the last few years. You can score an oz. of killer green for $150 around these parts. I pay a bit less than $100 an oz. for mine but I am a MM card holder so I get to pay cost. The hard economic times are even hitting that industry but at least the markets for it makes corrections to keep sales up, something our Galtian Overlords ought to try every now and then.

    But then these guys are just trying to make a few bucks to get by, unlike the Masters of the Universe.

  9. 9.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 2:00 am

    @Steeplejack: P.S. I had not heard They Reminisce Over You before. Thank you for remedying that tragic lack of awesomeness on my part.

  10. 10.

    Steeplejack

    December 18, 2010 at 2:06 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    That song always hits me really hard. A whole family history in four minutes. It is awesome.

  11. 11.

    Mike Kay (Democrat of the Century)

    December 18, 2010 at 2:07 am

    one the most hideous neo-cons EVER (amity shales) opposes the tax deal.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2010/12/17/last-call-beefheart.aspx

    that clinches it.

    ——————————–

    primarying Obama experiences crib-death.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/default.aspx

    bloggers gonna have to spend their unwanted tax cut elsewhere.

  12. 12.

    Jager

    December 18, 2010 at 2:14 am

    We make the best damn drones in the world, why would those bastards buy drones from anyone else? They buy all their guns from us, why are they fucking with us when it comes to the drone market. I want Issa on this as soon as the new congress is seated! Ungrateful fucking Mexicans! i knew you couldn’t trust those shifty bastards! Obama was just down there, this is probably his fault. A guy like John Bolton would never put up with this kind of bullshit from Mexicans….

  13. 13.

    Steeplejack

    December 18, 2010 at 2:15 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Doin’ okay tonight. Another hectic Christmas shift, but it didn’t really get to me. I’ll just be glad when it’s over.

    And I don’t think the economy is back yet. The stores are busy, but, to take ours as an indication, we’re not doing as well as planned. We were supposed to do about $45,000 today and did about $38,000. And we’ve been dragging like that the last week or two.

    How you doin’? Are you getting enough cold weather and snow?

  14. 14.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 2:17 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: Jesus H Christ. That’s some good prices, wherever your parts are. I pay ALOT more for really, really good stuff here in the NYC. I do have a delivery service, so that is a factor. Talking the same price for a quarter. And yes concern trolls, I have no qualms about talking about this on the internet. Uncle Sam already took my good health, why do I care if I get monitored?

  15. 15.

    Angry Black Lady

    December 18, 2010 at 2:21 am

    oh good. i was just about to post an open thread because someone ::looks around:: insists on touting the benefits of freezing one’s ass off on my gomer pyle thread.

    i’m considering turning the heat on. there’s wet stuff outside. and i’m cold. so cold. i don’t think i like LA’s attitude right now.

  16. 16.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 2:24 am

    @Angry Black Lady: I saw your pics. No need to turn the heat on.

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    December 18, 2010 at 2:26 am

    If they’re going this crazy over one little drone crash, imagine what they’d be like if a local wedding party were blown up with a Hellfire missile. But somehow they lack the capacity for self-reflection necessary to recognize the irony of their complaints.

  18. 18.

    jeffreyw

    December 18, 2010 at 2:27 am

    I like pie.

  19. 19.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 2:28 am

    @Jager: You. You made me laugh hard. I appreciate it.

    @Steeplejack: I’m glad it wasn’t too bad. Sucky about the economy, though. Sigh. I went out tonight. 11 degrees. Was nice. Still have our snow piles, so I haz a happy.

    @Angry Black Lady: Girl, don’t make me have to think about getting off my flat ass and cutting you. ‘Coz I will (think about it, I mean). I have my heat set for 60 degrees at night. And, I sleep nekkid. So there!

  20. 20.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 2:33 am

    @Bnut: I am not above playing matchmaker here. It would definitely be worth it just for the priceless family reactions. Though I am in a situation where the worst thing I could bring home is a Marine, so there is that.

  21. 21.

    jeffreyw

    December 18, 2010 at 2:34 am

    Night all…sleepy old fart dodders off to bed.

  22. 22.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 2:35 am

    @jeffreyw: I like your pie the best of all the pie I see here at BJ. Night! Sleep well.

    @Yutsano: Ditto this. I approve. Let’s hook ’em up!

    @Angry Black Lady: P.S. I did not mention cold at all in your thread! I was told to keep it to myself, which I would gladly do.

  23. 23.

    Jager

    December 18, 2010 at 2:38 am

    @Roger Moore:

    Yes sir, if a big old Baptist wedding party was blasted in some shit ass border town, there would be hell to pay.

    Of course if it hit the reception hall it would only kill the women, children and the fucking hillbilly band, cause the men would all be out sneaking drinks in the parking lot. If they hit the lot the men would be dead along with a few kids getting laid in pickups, Monte Carlos and Firebirds. I’ve been told that how it works at a Texas Baptist wedding.

  24. 24.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 2:39 am

    @Yutsano: All the racist relatives are dead. She would be welcomed with open arms, as long as she has an open stomach.

  25. 25.

    Roger Moore

    December 18, 2010 at 2:42 am

    @Jager:
    But it might be a good thing if we flattened a few wingnuts’ houses. After all, it would force them to go to the government for help, which would teach them the importance and value of a strong government.

  26. 26.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 2:45 am

    @Bnut: The wedding would be worth it for the food alone. Knishes and challah for days. And I do make a mean rugelach if I do say so myself. Plus the two of you breaking the glass together would make quite a sight.

  27. 27.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 2:48 am

    @Yutsano: You have never lived until you’ve had my father’s raspberry rugelach. That’s usually what I lead with on the first date. 26 and single, who could guess? lol

  28. 28.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    December 18, 2010 at 2:48 am

    @Bnut:

    Yeah those are good prices! Two years ago the same guy was unloading it at $300 an oz. and straight-up for a qp ($1,200). Now you can get a qp (street) around here for $450, $1,600 for an lb.

    Believe it or not, it’s the medical marijuana reform here in Oregon that did it. Now that people who qualify can get, grow or have someone grow it the sales of illegal pot have dropped and the dealers have all had to adjust.

    Egads! I just realized that soshulized weed is destroying the free market! Someone tell the libertarians and conservatives!

  29. 29.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 2:49 am

    @Roger Moore: Except, they would decide it’s OK for them because they are special flowers who deserve it. Not like those damn welfare queens and such. Sigh.

    @Yutsano: I’ll wear black and cry into a hankie and wail about how my baby is all grown up! I’ll bring the wontons and the dumplings. Oh, hell yeah. It’s going to be the event of the century. And, I will bring my famous Kung Pao Chicken. It’s the one dish I make well.

    @Bnut: Oooh, younger man! This is getting more and more intriguing.

  30. 30.

    Joey Maloney

    December 18, 2010 at 2:51 am

    No, it means they have the emotional maturity, intelligence, and general grasp of reality of a roomful of brain-injured toddlers on a meth-mescaline cocktail.

    S(illy)A2SQ.

  31. 31.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 2:53 am

    @Bnut: I am indeed sensing a plan of attack here. Methinks some frequent flyer miles may come into play. One small hang-up: are you allergic to dogs?

    BTW have a great rabbi friend who would officiate in a heartbeat. And possibly be my date as well.

    @asiangrrlMN: Morticia gown. Nothing more nothing less. And black lace hankie. If anyone gives you grief, say it’s traditional for weddings in Taiwan. The fact that this is true for Japan does not change your answer.

  32. 32.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 2:58 am

    @Yutsano: I was a vet tech in college, and have the sweetest dog ever (my cat is an asshole). Also, my 15 year old cousin will be the rabbi at my wedding. That’s her goal. She’s cool as shit.

  33. 33.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 3:04 am

    @Bnut: Female rabbis are da shiznit bar none. Every one I have ever met was amazing. Lemme know how your cousin does and if she would like a mentor/friend from a gay bodybuilder rabbi from Atlanta. I told you he was cool.

  34. 34.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 3:06 am

    @Yutsano: Snort laugh laugh! That’s a great answer. And, yes. Morticia gown it is.

    @Bnut: Your cousin rocks. That would be so cool. Ooooh, this is so exciting! It would be like Ann Althouse marrying one of her commenters, but without the ick factor!

  35. 35.

    Angry Black Lady

    December 18, 2010 at 3:07 am

    @asiangrrlMN: insanity, i say! i would die. it’s 70 degrees and i’m wearing three layers. i can’t handle the cold no mo’.

  36. 36.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 3:09 am

    @Yutsano: I have zero place in my life for religion, but if I did, reform Judaism is where it would be. That girl loves her bacon more than I do.

  37. 37.

    Angry Black Lady

    December 18, 2010 at 3:15 am

    @Bnut: i don’t trust people who don’t like bacon.

  38. 38.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 3:16 am

    @Bnut: I’ve done kept my kashrut kitchen, and I totally respect those that can.

    :: stares at Emily Hauser ::

    But Judaism is as much a culture as a religion. We had to be. We wouldn’t have made it this long more or less intact without that unique cultural tie. Plus according to Frank Herbert we make it as far as 10,191 CE.

  39. 39.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 3:16 am

    @Angry Black Lady: So, OK. We’ll have your wedding in the summer. I’ll be wearing this.

    @Angry Black Lady: And we were getting along so famously! (I only like bacon crumbled on things).

  40. 40.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2010 at 3:22 am

    I haz a sad — the rain kept us away from the Holy Petting Zoo tonight. It’s kind of been our holiday tradition.

    Oh, well. At least I got some good progress on my gift knitting.

  41. 41.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 3:23 am

    @Angry Black Lady: To quote that great food critic and faboo gay gentleman Ted Allen, “Bacon is nature’s most perfect food.” And yes one of these days I will work up the nerve to make my own. Though I may have to borrow my dad’s smoker.

  42. 42.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 3:23 am

    @Yutsano: I find myself defending Jewish culture and practices, even when I don’t agree with it. I’m only half-Jewish, yet I identify with that half more than the WASP Kansas other side. I suppose it’s just being with whatever people are more accepting. If I married a black woman, my mother’s mother would have shit a brick. My dads side (the Jewish one) could give 2 fucks.

  43. 43.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 3:25 am

    @Mnemosyne: Oh man that looks like fun. Too bad you couldn’t go. You’re in CA, right? Damn rain! Doesn’t it know it’s supposed to stay out of your state? Except for SF. Yay for the silver lining, though.

    @Yutsano: I love Ted Allen. He’s just soooo…yeah.

  44. 44.

    Uriel

    December 18, 2010 at 3:25 am

    @Angry Black Lady:

    and i’m cold. so cold.

    Physically, or spiritually? Or both?

    It’s an important distinction in America circa December 2010. And not one you can necessarily leave to context alone.

  45. 45.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2010 at 3:27 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    It is, because they usually bring in some cool animals, like llamas and burros, in addition to the usual goats and sheep. Last time, they had little potbellied pigs running around in the pen.

    Sadly, only kids or people with kids get to actually go inside the pen, but it’s still fun to watch and to pet the ones who come close enough to the fence.

  46. 46.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 3:28 am

    @asiangrrlMN: The crack I used to make was Kyan was the one I would fuck, but Ted I would marry. He is happily off the market however. Sigh. I always have Peyton though.

    @Bnut: I’m the exact same split: Dad is Jewish, Mom is Catholic (guess how fun THEIR wedding was! NO ONE from either side attended!) and I always gravitate more to the Jewish side. I’ve also discovered this amazing richness and diversity even within Judaism. Plus I love the whole we rule the world thing.

  47. 47.

    Angry Black Lady

    December 18, 2010 at 3:29 am

    @Bnut: my mom is jewish and she married a black man in the 60s. my grandparents (the jew side) were a little “really? wtf?!” at first, but quickly adapted. then my mom was all “oh yeah, we’re adopting a black baby.” by then nothing could really phase my grandparents.

    ETA: my dad grew up catholic. went to catholic school. it didn’t take.

  48. 48.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 3:33 am

    @Mnemosyne: That would be awesome just to see–even if I couldn’t pet them. But, but, but, that’s singlism/childfreeism/! I can’t really blame them, though. I suppose it’s just easier that way.

    And, y’all are making me sad because I am not part Jewish or part Catholic. Mom was Christian and Dad was nominally Buddhist when they met. He converted, so to speak. Since they met and married in Tennessee, no one from either side of the family was there.

  49. 49.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2010 at 3:33 am

    @Angry Black Lady:

    ETA: my dad grew up catholic. went to catholic school. it didn’t take.

    Out of sheer nosiness, was your dad originally from Chicago? That seems to be where Catholicism made the most inroads. (Though I guess New Orleans probably has a lot of black Catholics, too.)

  50. 50.

    freelancer

    December 18, 2010 at 3:34 am

    @Yutsano:

    What the holy hell is going on here?!

  51. 51.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 3:34 am

    @Angry Black Lady: You realize you are not helping your own cause here. Apparently we are betrothed. A whip-smart lawyer and a jaded former Marine. Sounds like a match made in divorce, lol.

  52. 52.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 3:35 am

    @Mnemosyne: I had it in my head there was a large black Catholic community in Baltimore as well. But that marriage sounds made in NYC to me, and they have just about everything there.

    @Bnut: And gawjuss. And loves dogs. And is more or less politically compatible. Sprout my little seeds, sprout!

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2010 at 3:37 am

    @Yutsano:

    That would make sense — Maryland was founded as a colony for English Catholics (hence the name). But Los Angeles is a pretty Catholic city, too, so we may end up circling right back here again.

  54. 54.

    Uriel

    December 18, 2010 at 3:44 am

    @Angry Black Lady: @Yutsano: See, Really, on a fundamental level, don’t get this. I mean don’t get me wrong- I like bacon ok. But that’s it- it’s ok. That’s really it- it’s not like it’s creme brulee, or hollandaise sauce, or crab. It’s just you know, salty pork.

    But, for some reason, everyone I run into, mention bacon even in passing and they turn into this guy here.

    Heck, the bar i play trivia at, (which is a classy place that offers all of the items i mentioned above,) actually has a menu item entitled “cup of bacon.” It consists of, and I quote “six strips of bacon.” It sells for $3. And I totally don’t get it.

    I’m pretty sure it is this fact, and this fact alone, that leads to my continuing sense of existential separation form my fellow man.

  55. 55.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 3:44 am

    @Mnemosyne: It’s one of the funny things about Seattle: there really is no strong religious identity here. They all seem to be more or less evenly distributed. I have seen a few full face veils on the bus before. Some of the brocade work is stunning. I think it’s their way of expressing themselves but still staying true to their faith.

    @Uriel: Nope. Like any other food bacon can be made terribly and can also be overdone. But the way I get folks to start begrudgingly liking bacon again is carbonara. Bacon in an egg and cream sauce with tons of cheese and pepper in pasta. Nom.

  56. 56.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 3:47 am

    @Uriel: Oh, shit. That’s the reason I feel so alienated! I don’t love the bacon!

    @Yutsano: I’ve had good bacon. I like it in things. I just don’t go into orgasmic raptures over eating bacon itself. Alas. It’s a cold, cold world.

  57. 57.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 3:53 am

    @Yutsano
    FF to about 8:40. Figured you were due for another grainy vid of me to guess about.

  58. 58.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 3:53 am

    @Yutsano
    FF to about 8:40. Figured you were due for another grainy vid of me to guess about.

  59. 59.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 3:56 am

    @Bnut: Tease! I still haven’t figured out who you were in the last vid (besides tattooed pec guy). And, of course, no face shots. Harrumph.

    I’m out. Turn off the lights when you’re through.

  60. 60.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 3:58 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Turn off the lights when you’re through.

    I get the feeling between him and ABL this may not be much of a problem.

  61. 61.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 3:58 am

    @asiangrrlMN: You can def see my face at 9:00.

  62. 62.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 4:02 am

    @Bnut: Oh she’s just pouting. She’ll get over it soon enough. Or keep hounding you for a better picture one of the two.

    BTW I can already tell this vid is gonna make me pine for the Dawg. Sigh. His ass better get home for Christmas leave soon.

  63. 63.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 4:05 am

    @Yutsano: @Yutsano: You guys have no idea. Besides my own video stuff, we had an inbed with us several times. I have clips out the ass.

  64. 64.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 4:11 am

    @Bnut:

    I have clips out the ass.

    Must…control…smartass..impulses…must…control…smartass…impulses…

  65. 65.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 4:14 am

    @Yutsano: Walked right into that one.

    Edit: That’s what she (he?) said.

  66. 66.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 4:16 am

    @Bnut: I think the term you’re looking for is low-hanging curveball. But yeah, it was kinda sorta there.

  67. 67.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 4:23 am

    @Yutsano: Stop describing things that got me cut from HS baseball.

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 4:24 am

    @Bnut: “Ahh Jesus. I like him very much. But he no help with curveball.”

    PS: I think we’re the only two left awake.

  69. 69.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 4:29 am

    @Yutsano: He def didn’t help my sorry ass with it. As my coach once told me (and kept me on the team to keep the average GPA up) “Shake a tree, 10 gloves fall out, and 1 bat”. I was a glove.

    P.S: Probably true. But those elitists have sweet jobs. So fuck them, lol.

  70. 70.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 4:32 am

    @Bnut: I was a proud band geek for a reason. Only one of my brothers who had zero interest in sports. It kinda broke my father’s heart because when I could be persuaded to play SS I was a brick wall. Pretty accurate with my throws too.

  71. 71.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 4:36 am

    @Yutsano: No shame in the band geekness. My biggest regret is that I didn’t keep up with the trumpet after HS (music magnet school).

  72. 72.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 4:44 am

    @Bnut: Music took me just about everywhere in high school and college. And you know, not to put too fine a point on it, but playing in a military band is a pretty sweet gig if you can get it.

  73. 73.

    srv

    December 18, 2010 at 4:46 am

    You know you’ve reached the end of the internets when google shows you as the top result of a random search on something you haven’t thought about in 10 years.

  74. 74.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 4:48 am

    @Yutsano: No joke, last day of boot camp, joking around with the DI’s, one mentioned he was originally in the Marine Corps band. I asked if he played the skin flute. Was not a good day for me.

  75. 75.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 4:51 am

    @Bnut: And you lived? :)

    It would explain if you have a rather well-defined chest however. You were probably doing push-ups and pull-ups through graduation.

    @srv: We haz reached Peak Interwebs?

  76. 76.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 4:55 am

    @Yutsano: I had the luck of having 3 former gang members as DI’s. No love for white boys, Jews, or smartasses. And no one leaves bootcamp ripped. You run too much, eat too little and are far too stressed to gain weight. I went in at 200 lbs, came out at 175, and have kept it at a solid 160 since then.

  77. 77.

    Yutsano

    December 18, 2010 at 5:01 am

    @Bnut: Yeah. The Dawg dropped to 230 in OCS then hit the weights like mad and topped out at 275. Pretty impressive for 6’7″.

    And I’m spent. And you should probably find your pillow as well.

  78. 78.

    Bnut

    December 18, 2010 at 5:03 am

    @Yutsano: The Dawg sounds like a GD machine. Congrats on snagging that one. Yeah, pillow time here as well.

  79. 79.

    PeakVT

    December 18, 2010 at 5:29 am

    Late Night Navel-gazing

    Needs more meta to be navel-gazing. It’s really a Deep Thought.

  80. 80.

    Shalimar

    December 18, 2010 at 5:31 am

    @Mike Kay (Democrat of the Century):

    one the most hideous neo-cons EVER (amity shales) opposes the tax deal.

    She opposes it because Republicans had to give 10% to get 90% and that is against her code. Because Amity Shlaes is the kind of woman who would mug a homeless man just to teach him that his life expectations were too high.

  81. 81.

    Moses2317

    December 18, 2010 at 5:39 am

    Today should be the big day for the Senate vote on DADT repeal. Here are the Senators who need to hear from us most to urge them to vote for fairness, equality, and military readiness by repealing DADT. While you are at it, also urge them to vote for the DREAM Act and the START Treaty ratification.

    Olympia Snowe (Maine) – (202) 224-5344

    Susan Collins (Maine) – (202) 224-2523

    Scott Brown (Massachusetts) – (202) 224-4543

    George LeMieux (Florida) – (202) 224-3041

    George Voinovich (Ohio) – (202) 224-3353

    Jim Webb (Virginia) – (202)-224-4024

    Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) – (202) 224-6665

    John Ensign (Nevada) – (202) 224-6244

    Richard Lugar (Indiana) – (202) 224-4814

    Mark Kirk (Illinois) – (202) 224-2854

    Joe Manchin (West Virginia) – 202-224-3954

    Winning Progressive

  82. 82.

    amk

    December 18, 2010 at 5:41 am

    Daymn, mehicans seem adept messing with and in getting a rise from amurikkkans in more than one ways.

  83. 83.

    stuckinred

    December 18, 2010 at 5:52 am

    Wake up!

  84. 84.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    December 18, 2010 at 6:22 am

    @Angry Black Lady: “ETA: my dad grew up catholic. went to catholic school. it didn’t take. “

    Same here. I guess the ‘spirit’ never ‘moved’ me. I always felt like an outsider, like I was only going through the motions so everyone else wouldn’t know. I was even an altar boy for four years (and escaped any errant groping). I finally gave it all up at about 14, after my parents divorced because my devout dad thought seven kids was too much and found another devout catholic to start over with.

    I made the right choice and have never looked back.

  85. 85.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    December 18, 2010 at 6:25 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    (and escaped any errant groping)

    Sometimes it’s good to be the fat ugly kid.

  86. 86.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    December 18, 2010 at 7:44 am

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Why? Is that how you escaped groping? Sorry to hear that you had to save yourself from horny priests like that.

    Hopefully you got help for it.

  87. 87.

    JGabriel

    December 18, 2010 at 8:23 am

    Shalimar:

    She opposes it because Republicans had to give 10% to get 90% …

    Almost literally. 50 billion for the 10% unemployed vs. 100 billion for the top 2 %. Do the math and it means we’re giving an extra 10 dollars to everyone in the top 2% for every 1 dollar we add to unemployment benefits.

    That’s fucking evil.

    .

  88. 88.

    agrippa

    December 18, 2010 at 8:57 am

    tempest in a teapot.

    This event has very little significance.

  89. 89.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 18, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    @Bnut: With tons of gear surrounding it! I demand clear pics. I demand clear vids. If I am going to encourage ABL to be your betrothed, I need to know what I am she is getting into. Ha! You and Yutsy are so damn funny. Sorry I missed the rest of the convo.

    Amity Shales needs to go back to Amityville and STFU.

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