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You are here: Home / Politics / Someone keeps putting politics in the politics that political reporters report on

Someone keeps putting politics in the politics that political reporters report on

by Tom (TBogg) Boggioni|  July 30, 20143:08 pm| 152 Comments

This post is in: Politics, Assholes, Our Failed Media Experiment

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While not as earthshaking as some late breaking news exclusives, some political reporters have had their worldview shaken to its molten core by political gamesmanship being played by political parties.  When the hell did that shit start?

With some Republicans  coyly floating the idea of impeachment of the Obammer in much the same way they drop hints to their wives  about wanting to try anal, it seems only natural that political parties would not let the opportunity pass to open the hot and cold spigots of rage and fill their coffers with some sweet sweet cash.

This has given some hard-bitten, hard-drinking, hard-thinking political journalists a case of the pearl-clutching vapors.

NBC’s Chuck Toddler, fer’instance:

“I think the White House ought to be embarrassed for how they’re trying to play this. Boehner — the idea he’s saying, ‘We’re not talking impeachment, the lawsuit?’ Please. That’s about placating the impeachment caucus in his own party. This is an embarrassing moment for everyone in Washington. The leaders of both parties, they’re driving away people from the polls, driving people away from politics. This is cynical. It’s ugly. It’s disgusting.”

This kind of bullshit is keeping the Toddster from his daytime gig of not calling bullshit ‘bullshit,’ which is  both his job and not his job depending upon whether he has airtime he needs to fill or not.

Meanwhile, over at The National Journal, which is Atlantic Media’s embarrassing step-child that they hide in a locked garage when company comes over, Irritable Barack Syndrome sufferer  Ron Fournier is equally queefed about how the impeachment chitter-chatter is skullfucking his beautiful mind:

Now, several prominent conservatives, including 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, are calling for President Obama’s impeachment. The third-ranking official in the GOP House, Steve Scalise, refused Sunday to rule it out.

Fearing backlash, House Speaker John Boehner is trying to satiate conservatives with a lawsuit challenging Obama’s legal authority to amend Obamacare. The suit tracks GOP talking points that label Obama a lawless tyrant. The USA Today editorial board called the suit “a political sideshow.” Republicans are using it to motivate voters and donors.

This is exactly the kind of politics that Obama ran against in 2008, and that he promised to change. You might expect the White House to brush off such negligible impeachment talk, and focus on governing, right? Wrong.

[…]

Pfeiffer has denied Obama the moral high ground on impeachment. Yes, Democrats will say that Republicans started it. But why lower your party to the GOP’s level? Why lower the presidency? Why sound like a kindergartner whining to his teacher, “He started it!”

Yes, the White House — which is above the partisan fray in much the same way the Catholic Supremes are in matters of the care and feeding of lady vaginas, — has lowered itself into the gutter of punching back and cashing in and this is not what Ron Fournier signed up for after hotsoup.com’s barely noticeable implosion. Fournier’s job is to point out that Obama leads too much or doesn’t lead at all, over and over again until Obama  leaves office and then Fournier will wonder if America will allow a woman to lead them.

That’s his schtick and he’s sticking to it….

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  1. 1.

    Yatsuno

    July 30, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    This is an embarrassing moment for everyone in Washington. The leaders of both parties, they’re driving away people from the polls, driving people away from politics

    Ladies and germs, BOF SIDES CHUCKLES TODDLER!!!

  2. 2.

    mtiffany

    July 30, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Irritable Barack Syndrome sufferer Ron Fournier is equally queefed about how the impeachment chitter-chatter is skullfucking his beautiful mind

    So in love with you right now, TBogg.

  3. 3.

    c u n d gulag

    July 30, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    Obama’s now trolling the Republicans.

    And he’s been ‘rope-a-doping’ them, since the start.

    And the Republicans look like Elmer Fudd, trying to catch that “Wasskawy Wabbit,” Bawack Obama!

  4. 4.

    catclub

    July 30, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    @mtiffany: Too bad that syndrome is not caused by rusty chainsaws.

  5. 5.

    SatanicPanic

    July 30, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    “This is cynical. It’s ugly. It’s disgusting.”

    GOOD! We welcome your hatred

  6. 6.

    dmsilev

    July 30, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    You know, I saw ‘Tom’ in the byline, saw the long post, figured I knew who was writing it, and then was very very confused for a little while…

  7. 7.

    Mandalay

    July 30, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Yes, Democrats will say that Republicans started it. But why lower your party to the GOP’s level?

    Both sides do it!!!

    …they drop hints to their wives about wanting to try anal…

    Do it both sides!!!

  8. 8.

    RareSanity

    July 30, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    With some Republicans coyly floating the idea of impeachment of the Obammer in much the same way they drop hints to their wives about wanting to try anal

    Ho-lee shit that is an awesome line…

  9. 9.

    catclub

    July 30, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    The suit tracks GOP talking points that label Obama a lawless tyrant. The USA Today editorial board called the suit “a political sideshow.” Republicans are using it to motivate voters and donors.

    Now the DCCC is using impeachment to raise money, and turnabout is definitely NOT fair play to the GOP.

  10. 10.

    Arclite

    July 30, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    With some Republicans coyly floating the idea of impeachment of the Obammer in much the same way they drop hints to their wives about wanting to try anal

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    So perfect. Spot on.

  11. 11.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    July 30, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    You might expect the White House to brush off such negligible impeachment talk, and focus on governing, right?

    Ron Fournier hates the Republicans so much that the House Majority Whip is now a nobody.

  12. 12.

    JPL

    July 30, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    NBC.com has this article about the President’s speech today

    “They have announced that they are going to sue me for taking executive actions to help people,” he said during an event in Kansas City. “They’re mad because I’m doing my job.”………………………………………………….
    Calling the vote a waste of valuable taxpayer dollars, Obama said Republicans are also taking time away from important legislation they should be addressing………………………………………………………………………………
    “Stop being mad all the time,” he said of Republicans, chuckling. “Stop just hatin’ all the time. Let’s get some work done.”

    Someone needs to get chuckie a fainting couch.
    Also, Boehner might need a fifth of his favorite beverage after hearing about the President’s latest statement.

  13. 13.

    BGinCHI

    July 30, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    I laughed out loud, in an “I’d really rather be punching Ron Fournier in the neck over and over until he cried uncle but I would keep going because I still have energy left” way, at the logic of the transition from paragraphs 2 and 3 in the Fournier quote.

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    I’m reminded of terrible drivers I see on the road. I always say to my toddler, “How the hell does that person not get killed?”

    I’m wondering the same thing about Fournier. I’m starting to think we have not too much violence in this country, just that it’s in the wrong places.

  14. 14.

    dmsilev

    July 30, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Fortunately, of course, nobody gives a damn about what Rob Fournier thinks.

  15. 15.

    catclub

    July 30, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): You might also expect politics to end at the waters edge, and for US politicians to defer to the President on foreign policy, right Ron?

  16. 16.

    SatanicPanic

    July 30, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    @JPL: Wow, he’s just full-on trolling them now

  17. 17.

    The Dangerman

    July 30, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    @Mandalay:

    Both sides do it!!! … Do it both sides!!!

    I’ll shouldn’t read this blog a mouthful* of soda (or I need to have more towels handy).

    * Hmmm, probably shouldn’t be talking about “mouthfulls” here.

  18. 18.

    BubbaDave

    July 30, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    @Mandalay:
    I’m pretty sure they want their wives to be pitching, with a strap-on, while they imagine a shirtless Putin…

  19. 19.

    BGinCHI

    July 30, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    @dmsilev: I agree, Todd Fournier is irrelevant. Worse than Daniel Broder.

  20. 20.

    Roger Moore

    July 30, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    @BubbaDave:

    I’m pretty sure they want their wives to be pitching, with a strap-on, while they imagine a shirtless Putin…

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  21. 21.

    catclub

    July 30, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    @BubbaDave: and I’m pretty sure I don’t want to have any idea of what they want. Abyss, look, look back.

  22. 22.

    Trollhattan

    July 30, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    @Mandalay:
    Well played [golf clap]

  23. 23.

    Hal

    July 30, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    Chris Hayes was discussing impeachment talk the other day with former NAACP President Ben Jealous, who seriously looked like he just woke up after an all night bender, and my future ex-husband Josh Barro. Hayes was basically saying it was a cynical ploy by Dems to use impeachment talk as a possible GOTV effort for the midterms. I completely agree in that sure, Obama is trying to use this to his advantage and understands the potential huge backlash if he were impeached, but Republicans have been saying this shit for years, and that was another point Hayes brought up; that even if it is a cynical political ploy by Obama and Dems, Republicans are the ones who opened the gate in the first place, and who continue to throw the possibility of impeachment around to placate some of their more rapid supporters.

    Todd will never get off the both sides do it train. I brought up in another thread that he was bitching last week about Obama not holding lunches with Republicans to try and work out some differences, and placing blame equally, despite Hayes pointing out that Republicans talk impeachment, vote to overturn the ACA nonstop, shut down the government etc. Nope. Lunches could work. Hey, why not at least try it? The man has no clue or ideas.

  24. 24.

    Tone In DC

    July 30, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    I’m pretty sure they want their wives to be pitching, with a strap-on, while they imagine a shirtless Putin…

    Now, see…. that is WAY too much information.

  25. 25.

    Violet

    July 30, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Anything that gives Chuck Todd the vapors has to be good.

  26. 26.

    Trollhattan

    July 30, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    The leaders of both parties, they’re driving away people from the polls, driving people away from politics. This is cynical. It’s ugly. It’s disgusting.”

    Is he saying that politicians are reducing our supply of pol[l] dancers?

    WTF are the Dems supposed to do, if not point, laugh and raise money at this “gift” that keeps giving us insanity instead of, you know, public service? Remain vewwy, vewwy quiet?

  27. 27.

    Violet

    July 30, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    The leaders of both parties, they’re driving away people from the polls, driving people away from politics.

    Is this even true? Has Chuck Todd looked at voting trends over the last, oh, thirty years and compared participation? Have any polls of why people have or have not been voting been shown to back up this statement?

    I’m going to guess no is the answer to those things. And I’m also going to say that the disaster that passes for our media drives more people away from politics than anything else.

  28. 28.

    Yatsuno

    July 30, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    WTF are the Dems supposed to do, if not point, laugh and raise money at this “gift” that keeps giving us insanity instead of, you know, public service? Remain vewwy, vewwy quiet?

    They’re just supposed to shut up and take it like the weak hippie Communist homosecksuals they are. Remember The Narrative. Nothing can ever violate the tenets of The Narrative.

  29. 29.

    srv

    July 30, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    So can the brogressives let their freak fly now and have impeachment protests, or will the Obots get mad at them?

  30. 30.

    Southern Beale

    July 30, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    ITS molten core. ITS. Not IT’S. ITS.

    GAH.

    { leaves room, sobs }

  31. 31.

    Yatsuno

    July 30, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    @srv: Speaking of dudebros…. I wonder when Glenn’s 14 paragraph screed blaming Obummer will come out about this.

  32. 32.

    Davis X. Machina

    July 30, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):

    Ron Fournier hates the Republicans so much that the House Majority Whip is now a nobody.

    Please, that’s “Former McCain White House Press Secretary Ron Fournier” to you, buster.

  33. 33.

    libarbarian

    July 30, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    the care and feeding of lady vaginas

    Mmmmmmm……….

  34. 34.

    piratedan

    July 30, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    @Yatsuno: you can be sure that the lede will be buried around paragraph 7, line 2.

  35. 35.

    dmsilev

    July 30, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    @piratedan: …Update XLVII

  36. 36.

    bemused

    July 30, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    It’s all so hilarious. Republicans are panicking that Dems are jumping all over the impeachment talk that has been going on for years and msm is very pissy about it. Wingnut media has been on the impeachment bandwagon and I just wonder what teapartiers make of Boehner acting outraged, Rove saying Dems should be ashamed and other Republicans trying to back away from the I word.

  37. 37.

    Yatsuno

    July 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    @dmsilev: @piratedan: So…short screed from him then?

  38. 38.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    and focus on governing, right?

    If only Obama would focus on “cutting entitlements”, as everyone who’s anyone (Ron Fournier) knows (and approves of) is the only Serious Policy, We Could Get Something Done!

  39. 39.

    Hal

    July 30, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Don’t forget his imploring Karl Rove to keep up the fight. But I’m sure he is not biased in anyway.

    Karl Rove exhanged e-mails about Pat Tillman with Associated Press reporter Ron Fournier, under the subject line “H-E-R-O.” In response to Mr. Fournier’s e-mail, Mr. Rove asked, “How does our country continue to produce men and women like this,” to which Mr. Fournier replied, “The Lord creates men and women like this all over the world. But only the great and free countries allow them to flourish. Keep up the fight.”

  40. 40.

    Davis X. Machina

    July 30, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    @srv: Silence is complicity — surely there has been no shortage of offenses, such as the Libyan military actions — violating the War Powers Act — or the internet and phone surveillance, or the drones, etc.

    You cold have simultaneous, parallel protests, held jointly with the Paulistas — do like the Orthodox pray, in two separate sections.with a mechitza

  41. 41.

    piratedan

    July 30, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: yeah, first entitlements to go, subsidies for big ag, big oil, big coal and big pharma…. oh wait…. those are the subsidies that the GOP loves, my bad

  42. 42.

    Bill Arnold

    July 30, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    @bemused:

    Rove saying Dems should be ashamed

    Rove, distilled.

  43. 43.

    Valdivia

    July 30, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    I need a cigarette after this. Amen!!!

  44. 44.

    Mike in NC

    July 30, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Howard Fineman popped up on MSNBC yesterday, wringing his hands about the Mexican border “crisis”, and the Crimean separatists “crisis”, and the Gaza invasion “crisis”, and how all of these crises were the worst thing since they found missiles in Cuba. He demanded immediate bold action by Obama to solve all of these crises, and no more of this silly deliberation and consultation shit.

    He was the perfect Beltway stenographer, repeating GOP talking points. Dickhead.

  45. 45.

    Keith G

    July 30, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    One of the things to consider about Todd (and so many others of the modern media) is that they are such small and inconsequential beings. Those of us of a certain age would stop and be sure to listen when someone like Robert Pierpoint, Charles Collingwood, or Bob Abernethy were on camera with something to say. Todd’s commentary and reporting is utterly disposable.

    It seems to me that Reagan and his team were acutely aware of the changing nature and role of political reporting some thirty years ago and worked to bypass and otherwise minimize the role the media played in being gatekeepers and interpreters of the administration’s policies and messaging.

  46. 46.

    bemused

    July 30, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    @Bill Arnold:

    Heh.

    I read letters to a local paper with a rightwing editor almost every week that say Obama is a dictator and should be impeached or something similar. Republicans running away from the impeachment word isn’t going to make them one bit happy.

  47. 47.

    Anoniminous

    July 30, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    If they are screaming we must be winning.

    Gawd but I’d love to see the GOP’s internal polling.

  48. 48.

    BGinCHI

    July 30, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    @Valdivia: Pretty good sale at wine library today, Val. Check it out.

  49. 49.

    Amir Khalid

    July 30, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    With the impeachment thing, it looks like the Republican party is trying to put the bullet back in the chamber after hitting themselves in the foot.

  50. 50.

    Trollhattan

    July 30, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    @bemused: They should IMPEACH and also, too, weak president should DEMAND Mexico give us back Our Marine.

    Fast and Curious.

  51. 51.

    bemused

    July 30, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    Ha, ha, just heard Mark Halperin say BSDI.

  52. 52.

    Violet

    July 30, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    @Mike in NC:Howard Fineman? Is he still a thing?

  53. 53.

    dmsilev

    July 30, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Somebody apparently set every Democratic campaign committee’s auto-emailer to “Boehner lawsuit” and left it turned on. I’ve stopped counting how many I’ve gotten in the last couple of hours.

  54. 54.

    bago

    July 30, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    If your argument boils down to “They’re launching a 540 mctwist right over our heads!”, you may want to reconsider your skill level.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McTwist

  55. 55.

    Anoniminous

    July 30, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Is this:

    Among registered voters, 42% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents currently say they are more enthusiastic than usual about voting, while 50% are less enthusiastic, resulting in an eight-point enthusiasm deficit.

    an early indication of GOP trouble? They gerrymandered to the max so a 1% die-off and a loss of 2% from not voting could flip some House seats.

    Speculation, of course, but fun to contemplate.

  56. 56.

    Karen in GA

    July 30, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    I just can’t. I remember Ron Fournier when he was trashing the AP with his bullshit; I’ve steered clear of him ever since.

    Actually, there are very few American news media people I don’t steer clear of, come to think of it, so never mind.

  57. 57.

    Yatsuno

    July 30, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    @Anoniminous: If the Democrats don’t cover that deficit, it doesn’t matter. The constant ginning of the impeachment spectre is having an opposite effect from the various observations I’ve seen on the Interwebs. But unless there’s actual GOTV, it doesn’t make one iota of difference. The Republicans will whine, but they will vote.

  58. 58.

    bemused

    July 30, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    I don’t know which is cracking me up more today, R’s faux outrage at impeachment talk or msm villagers reporting on it.

    @Hal:

    Chuck Todd advising Obama to just do lunches is hysterically funny but reinforces my absolute disgust with that bunch.

  59. 59.

    bago

    July 30, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    @Southern Beale: I got a poster for ya.
    http://www.angryflower.com/aposter.html

  60. 60.

    gvg

    July 30, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Does he think Democratic voters have forgotten the GOP ALREADY has done one silly impeachment? I watched the Clinton derangement stupidity and I have not forgotten. The Democrats would be less than wise IMO if they weren’t making contingency plans when actual elected GOP congressmen talk about considering impeachment without any care for an actual named crime with evidence. Even if there is a crime, I want it clear that IMO impeachment of a President is supposed to be for high crimes and not cheating on a spouse or using executive authority to smooth the way a little for an actual duly passed by Congress and signed by the president law.
    I can’t help wondering what we will be able to do when this actual weapon against a serious problem type President has been misused to the point of silliness…and we get a President we actually need to remove. Cry wolf too often GOP and nobody notices.
    Silly pundit may think this talk is just games, but it wasn’t the last time and Congress is even sillier now.

    The best way to prevent it is not lunches with the GOP it’s getting out the vote and getting rid of the traitorous nuts in Congress

  61. 61.

    Yatsuno

    July 30, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    @bemused: But see! He’s not even TRYING! Even when he did try this, he still wasn’t actually TRYING! I mean gosh, he made those sincere Republicans look bad especially poor Grandpa Walnuts! Why can’t he just do the honourable thing & resign along with Biden so The Weeping Cheeto can restore true balance to the universe?

  62. 62.

    Anoniminous

    July 30, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    We’ve actually got the raw numbers to re-take the House. GOTV is critical to turn that potential into votes.

  63. 63.

    BGinCHI

    July 30, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    @Violet: A thing. Of nothing.

  64. 64.

    J R in WV

    July 30, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    I wonder at the mental capacity of political “leaders” who can’t remember the last Democratic President they impeached! You remember, the one who ended his second term rated one of the most popular presidents ever, in all history. So their RWNutJobs want to Impeach President Obama (already very popular for a guy running a country with one quarter of its government with tetanus level immobility) so as to boost his popularity even higher, just before the 2014 elections.

    In real live, House Spealer Boner wants to wait until just after the 2014 elections to impeach President Obama, hoping that they will have a better margin in the House, and perhaps even a small majority in the Senate. Of course a small majority in the Senate won’t help with convicting the popular President, and it will expand the lockjaw paralysis of the Legislative branch of government so as to lock up one third of the government, rather than the quarter now immobilized.

    These guys are going to hurt themselves!

    I get 3 or 4 emails EVERY DAY telling me that the Rs are seconds away from Impeachment of a sitting President, for the crime of doing his job. All the emails are joyous about pissing off Speaker Boner, and ask for money for the – wait for it! – The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee!!!

    For which I gave $50, and enjoyed doing so. Yo

  65. 65.

    StringOnAStick

    July 30, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    Good to see you Mr. Tbogg; got any doggie pics you can send to Annie Laurie for our entertainment? We’ll be good, promise!

  66. 66.

    nellcote

    July 30, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    @Hal:

    Lunches could work. Hey, why not at least try it?

    tried it. Goopers declined invitations. be nice if media jerks could acknowledge.

  67. 67.

    SatanicPanic

    July 30, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    @bago: Democrats are Tony Hawk and Republicans are posers

  68. 68.

    bago

    July 30, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    @Tone In DC: Good for the Goose…

  69. 69.

    Yatsuno

    July 30, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    @Anoniminous: The nice part is I have seen various GOTV operations pushing for voters to get their butts out there & make their voices heard. Right now all I’ve been hearing from Republicans is what they’re against and most Democratic candidates keep saying what they’re for. That makes a difference in the psychology of voting. People usually want to vote FOR something not AGAINST everything. I’m just hoping this sustains as the polling data goes through the summer. After Labour Day it should start to come together, especially if The Village starts panicking.

  70. 70.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    Chuckles the Toddler really makes me want to reach for my Uzi.

    What an utterly vile sack of shit he is. ZOMG, that mean Obama is playing politics, and attacking the pure as the driven snow around a Chinese coal fueled power plant Rethugs.

  71. 71.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    @Yatsuno: This is pretty much why Toddler and the rest of the Villagers need to be addressed to the head with Louisville Sluggers.

  72. 72.

    gogol's wife

    July 30, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Same here! It was fun to think Tom L. had had a personality transplant.

  73. 73.

    scav

    July 30, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    If there is any group whose public respectability, credibility, numbers and shareprice is dropping as fast if not faster than politicians, it’s media jornalism and pundits.

    eta. and they still are currently overvalued, esp the pundits.

  74. 74.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Yes, the bullet that hit their foot is the one they’re trying to get back into the chamber. Too bad it deformed really bad when it hit their foot.

  75. 75.

    bemused

    July 30, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    Oh, you’re killing me. That’s exactly how they talk about EVERYTHING to do with Obama. Damned if he does or doesn’t.

    Just read about a Louisiana legislator that people are calling Palin of the South. She made a climate change is a hoax video and she actually said Dems say up is down and a few other “opposite” examples. In your face projection but it doesn’t bother the people who vote for these lunatics whether they get that or not. It’s all about hate.

  76. 76.

    David Koch

    July 30, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Shorter Chuck Toad:

    It’s not my job to correct the GOP when they play politics about Obamacare, but it is my job to correct the DNC when they play politics.

  77. 77.

    bago

    July 30, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    @SatanicPanic: There’s a larger commentary I could commet about, regarding personal reponsibility and personal @SatanicPanic: Dunno. Stringing along absurdly long combos seems to be, problematic.

  78. 78.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    @bemused: The problem of course is that Obama has invited such lower-order life forms as Boner and Yertle to lunches, to movies, to cocktail weenie parties, etc, etc. ad nausem, and they’ve turned him down, because who wants to be seen anywhere near that ni*CLANG*, anyways, because it will upset their vile scumdwelling base.

    Of course, Chuckles never bothers to report on that. It’s still the ni*CLANG*’s fault that none of the lower-order life forms will return his invitations.

  79. 79.

    Belafon

    July 30, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    OT: Someone is claiming to be able to pull carbon from the air economically, turning it into plastic. The process is obviously a secret, but I’m leaving it for the curious, and the chemists.

  80. 80.

    Anoniminous

    July 30, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    @Yatsuno:

    Good. This is the year the GOP gerrymandering starts going wonky on ’em. Anything roughly approximating Dem presidential turnout should flip some seats.

    (and … back to work.)

  81. 81.

    Patrick

    July 30, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    This is an embarrassing moment for everyone in Washington. The leaders of both parties,

    Chuck Todd is the posterboy for what’s wrong with the media. Blaming both sides??? Really?!!!

    Hell, one of the GOP House leaders REFUSED to rule out impeachment. Yet Mr Todd, is blaming Obama. I am speechless…

  82. 82.

    bemused

    July 30, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    @David Koch:
    @Villago Delenda Est:

    It’s not as if they were holding Dems to a higher standard than the R’s. They just don’t want to have to report accurately what scum dogs R’s are.

  83. 83.

    J R in WV

    July 30, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    Just to remind everyone, Rob Fournier was actually the Washington DC bureau chief for The AP during the election year, where he was allowed to spend all his time working to defeat the Democratic candidate. Thus proving that the national news media is not necessarily able to make and break Presidents.

    I was in stunned disbelief about The AP allowing such blatent political gamesmanship on the part of one of their most important political reportage positions. It was so totally unprofessional, so unethical, so much like an organization being run by a Gannett executive who knew nothing about the news wire business, and little about journalistic ethics, much less making money from the core business strengths of The AP, which has been frittered away over the past decade.

    So Sad!

  84. 84.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Isn’t there someone, somewhere in the greater DC area who can arrange to have a 16 ton weight accidentally fall on Ron Fournier and turn him into something more attractive like a thick pink paste on a sidewalk that is roped off by the EPA as a toxic danger to dogs, cats, and other small animals?

  85. 85.

    David Koch

    July 30, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    The BIGGEST scandal no one is talking about is how in the world can my Red Sox trade way Lester!?!

  86. 86.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    @Belafon: I smell cold fusion and miraculous metallurgy that makes trains run on time.

  87. 87.

    Belafon

    July 30, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: That was my first thought as well.

  88. 88.

    Shakezula

    July 30, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Ron can go Fourniercate himself.

    As for Upchuck’s pout – I’m sure he had scads of evidence that it is this horrible gamesmanship by Both Sides (R) that is driving people away from the polls. (It certainly isn’t disenfranchisement laws!)

  89. 89.

    geg6

    July 30, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    @c u n d gulag:

    I can’t say how much I love my president trolling these assholes. It just warms the cockles of my little heart. And the fact that it is making Fournier’s and Chuckles’ heads explode is just a cherry on top of the deliciousness.

  90. 90.

    MomSense

    July 30, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Oh my goodness. Just read that Lois Lerner’s emails reveal that she called right wingers assholes and crazies. This is going to be fun.

  91. 91.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    @dmsilev: Yeah, I”m being mail bombed by Obama, Biden, Tom Udall, CREDO, Michelle, Jeff Merkley, etc. ZOMG they’re going to vote to sue! I’m looking forward to a judge taking a glance at this and ordering sanctions for wasting his time.

  92. 92.

    JPL

    July 30, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    @MomSense: Well if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be so.

  93. 93.

    BGinCHI

    July 30, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    @MomSense: She should ask them to prove the contrary.

  94. 94.

    Chyron HR

    July 30, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    @MomSense:

    “Is this true?!”

    “Yes, your honor, these people ARE crazy assholes.”

  95. 95.

    jimmiraybob

    July 30, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Dayum. By the time I got to the line,

    “When the hell did that shit start?”

    without first checking the byline, my ears perked and my tail started wagging and i was pretty sure who the perpetrator was……was pretty sure of who was the perpetrator….. whom was the perpetrator ….. something something blorx ……(I, of course, blame this mess on Queen Northwoods of Scottsdale). Most groovy to see you here. In a mid western kinda way.

  96. 96.

    JPL

    July 30, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    @geg6: I don’t know if you saw his comment earlier today, but the President is going to drive Boehner to drink more than he already does. “Stop just hatin’ all the time. Let’s get some work done.” BTW, this new feistier president seemed to appear about the same time Doug stopped posting on the front page. Doug was the best troll that Balloon Juice had. Just sayin!

  97. 97.

    J.D. Rhoades

    July 30, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    @JPL:

    Question: When are the people calling Obama a lawless tyrant, denying his American citizenship, and demanding his resignation or impeachment going to be described as “harshly partisan” by our so-called liberal media, the way they always call Obama that when he criticizes them for it?

  98. 98.

    J.D. Rhoades

    July 30, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    @MomSense:

    The crazy assholes are kind of sorry they asked for them now, huh?

  99. 99.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 30, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    @Chyron HR:

    “…and they have no dicks.”

  100. 100.

    crosspalms

    July 30, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    “The Weeping Cheeto” made my day. I think he just wants to prove he can bring something to the floor for a vote. Besides Obamacare repeals, that is.

  101. 101.

    Bill Arnold

    July 30, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    and gold from seawater

  102. 102.

    Tone In DC

    July 30, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Isn’t there someone, somewhere in the greater DC area who can arrange to have a 16 ton weight accidentally fall on Ron Fournier and turn him into something more attractive like a thick pink paste on a sidewalk that is roped off by the EPA as a toxic danger to dogs, cats, and other small animals?

    Hey! This small southern town has its aesthetic charms (like the Monument without that damn scaffolding). But you wanna ruin my town with Fournier paste?

    Let someone drop a 16 ton weight on him while he’s attending an ammosexual function near the Home Depot where that dude shot himself in the ass.

  103. 103.

    David Fud

    July 30, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Nah, chemistry is chemistry. They are almost certainly using supercritical carbon dioxide to make plastic, and it isn’t much of a secret.

  104. 104.

    Bill Arnold

    July 30, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    @JPL:

    Doug was the best troll that Balloon Juice had. Just sayin!

    Heck, I remember thinking at the time that there was a small (3 percent?) chance that that was his new gig.

  105. 105.

    HR Progressive

    July 30, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Chuck Todd can go fuck something rusted for bitching about pretty much anything related to news, media, or the state of political affairs.

    He’s had just as much a hand in causing / enabling the problems that exist right now, so for him to get the vapors over a climate that he’s helped create and foment?

    Go fuck yourself, and take your Snake Oil Centrism with you.

  106. 106.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    July 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    @dmsilev: Glad I haven’t checked my email lately. I keep “unsubscribing” and this shit keeps coming back. Fuck the DCCC and the DSCC. I gave away some good money to specific candidates for 2014 a couple of weeks ago, might give to a couple more if the mood hits. There are voter registration efforts going on in the Southeast this summer, quite worthy of support/volunteer hours as well.

  107. 107.

    srv

    July 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Burp thread. Impeach.

  108. 108.

    scav

    July 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Speaking of which, when is John Yoo going to pipe up about all this unprecedented and unwanted tuuuuuuurrrrrrible authoritarian presidenting that must be reined in?

  109. 109.

    catclub

    July 30, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: That or photosynthesis, which also happens to pull Carbon out of the air and make various organic chemicals.

  110. 110.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    July 30, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    @Anoniminous: From your lips to the Invisible Pink Unicorn’s ears.

    IPU knows I’ve had enough of bad news this summer.

  111. 111.

    catclub

    July 30, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    @David Fud: is supercritical chemistry economical? Just wondering. Photosynthesis is my bet.

  112. 112.

    srv

    July 30, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    @scav: Obama didn’t agree with my idea to render Messrs. Yoo & Addington under his Unitary Executive authority to Gitmo and then proceed to litigate their detention through the courts using their own findings.

    That would have been a few years, at least, of some real fun, and this mature Republic would have some scope of Article II Powers a couple centuries after its founding.

  113. 113.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    July 30, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    @geg6: I love “stop hatin'”. Tell us how you really feel, POTUS!

    L o v i n g i t .

  114. 114.

    D58826

    July 30, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    And along with the other crazies, here is a piece from the Minutemen and their plan to guard the border:

    It turns out the Minuteman Project’s wartime cosplay event is called “Operation Normandy.” From the official Operation Normandy website:
    If you are familiar with the Normandy invasion of France in 1944, then you have an idea how large and logistically complicated this event will be. However, there is one difference. We are not going to the border to invade anyone. We are going there to stop an invasion.

    I’m not sure if any one has told them that it was the German army that tried to stop the invasion on June 6 1944. So these guys are going to play the role of the Nazis? Would be to funny if it wasn’t so pitiful.

  115. 115.

    Cervantes

    July 30, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Nice to have you here, TBogg.

    Just one thing: the Earth’s inner core is pretty much solid.

  116. 116.

    gbear

    July 30, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    @nellcote:

    Lunches could work. Hey, why not at least try it?

    tried it. Goopers declined invitations. be nice if media jerks could acknowledge.

    Maybe he should just order a couple hundred happy meals and have them delivered to the next GOP meeting. The media jerks would have a field day with that.

  117. 117.

    scav

    July 30, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    @gbear: Happy meal lunches? Michelle would be all over him: we’re supposed to be feeding good food to children!

  118. 118.

    srv

    July 30, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    @D58826: So for the movie – Tom Hanks, Matt Damon, Robert Wagner and Sean Connery are still around. But who will play John Wayne, Eddie Albert, Henry Fonda, Robert Mitchum, and Richard Burton? And can they speak Spanish?

    On the other side, I’m sure Christopher Waltz could play a good Minuteman.

  119. 119.

    MomSense

    July 30, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    @J.D. Rhoades:

    But, but but it proves that she hated conservatives and that is why she persecuted them by making them fill out forms or something.

    The person she was emailing with called them “rabid”. The wingnut hysteria over this is going to be fantastic.

  120. 120.

    gbear

    July 30, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    @Belafon: I closed out of the article as soon as I got to the part where the ‘developer’ could see both sides of the climate change issue, and then an audio auto play ad came on.

  121. 121.

    MomSense

    July 30, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    @HR Progressive:

    Here’s the thing about Chuck Todd. He would prefer to blame the Democrats and especially the President but the Republicans’ behavior is soooo egregious that he has no choice but to find fault with both sides. He just can’t bring himself to admit how truly horrific the Republican party has become.

  122. 122.

    Mandalay

    July 30, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    @Another Holocene Human (now with new computer):

    Fuck the DCCC and the DSCC.

    What you said:

    The DSCC is actively backing serial liar, plagiarist and massive shitstain Sen. John Walsh:

    “I think that stacked up against his record in Iraq, his record in the National Guard, and his service to Montana, I think voters will understand that full picture,” said Sen. Michael F. Bennet (Colo.), chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

    Unbelievable. The DSCC can’t even distinguish between right and wrong. Fuck ’em.

  123. 123.

    gbear

    July 30, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    @scav: … but they’re happy! the president wants happy.

  124. 124.

    scav

    July 30, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    @gbear: Smiley faces on carrot cake cupcakes maybe?

  125. 125.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 30, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    OT, but this is hilarious. McConnelling McConnell: Grimes’ new video relies entirely on opponent’s B-roll

  126. 126.

    danielx

    July 30, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Hayes was basically saying it was a cynical ploy by Dems to use impeachment talk as a possible GOTV effort for the midterms.

    About. Fucking. Time.

    Oh, I forgot, only Republicans are supposed to do shit like that. My bad.

  127. 127.

    Corner Stone

    July 30, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    @Hal:

    Chris Hayes was discussing impeachment talk the other day with former NAACP President Ben Jealous, who seriously looked like he just woke up after an all night bender,

    I read this earlier and didn’t have time but I wanted to come back and say, “Yes!”. Ben Jealous seriously looked like he had just come on set after an 18 hour non-stop bender playing craps or c@rds at Atlantia Citia, NJ.
    He was all kinds of rough and just smoothly hanging on.
    I love that guy.

  128. 128.

    Corner Stone

    July 30, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name): You know what’s not hilarious?
    This, you bastard.

  129. 129.

    JustRuss

    July 30, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    I’m stealing this from commenter Rick Massimo at Driftglass, because it just nails the very essence of the Todd That Is Chuck:

    I don’t think you can get more arglebargley than saying the White House should be embarrassed to say that there’s a move to impeach and in the VERY NEXT SENTENCE casually toss off the fact that there is an “impeachment caucus.”

  130. 130.

    cckids

    July 30, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    @Another Holocene Human (now with new computer):

    I love “stop hatin’”. Tell us how you really feel, POTUS!

    I’m sure my feeling isn’t unique, but I’ve always thought they should have played this at Obama’s 2nd Inaugural.

    I’d settle for it booming out of the helicopter as he leaves in 2017, when Joe or Hillary are taking office.

  131. 131.

    Mnemosyne

    July 30, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    @cckids:

    I still love all of my fellow Chicagoans at the 2008 inauguration who sang “Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye” as Bush flew away. I should see if YouTube still has the footage.

    (I know it was Chicagoans because that’s what they sing if there’s a home run at a White Sox game.)

  132. 132.

    David Fud

    July 30, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    @catclub: I doubt it, as photosynthesis makes ATP, not polymers. However, one never knows what might be possible. High temperature high pressure chemistry isn’t that unusual, especially when compared to mimicking biological processes like photosynthesis. It is already reasonably common to grab atmospheric nitrogen to make ammonia fertilizer, for instance.

  133. 133.

    Russ

    July 30, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    The O has them roped and the branding iron is hot. The branding will occur soon. Let’s vote for what the branding iron says.

  134. 134.

    Cervantes

    July 30, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Speaking of media criticism, TBogg, what is your take on Bob Somerby?

    If you have written it out before, one or more links will do. No need to re-write it here.

    Thanks.

  135. 135.

    chopper

    July 30, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    With some Republicans coyly floating the idea of impeachment of the Obammer in much the same way they drop hints to their wives about wanting to try anal

    I think that’s the best line ever written.

  136. 136.

    cckids

    July 30, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    @Mnemosyne: How did I miss that??? Awesome.

  137. 137.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    July 30, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    @Mandalay: The “full picture” is that they are wasting pensioners’ money on a race that’s already lost because Walsh is in the ‘club’, meanwhile, they sit on their hands or engage in counterproductive crap during primary season in contestable races.

  138. 138.

    Mnemosyne

    July 30, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    @cckids:

    Yep, the clip’s still on YouTube. I remember it because it made it onto at least one network broadcast and the newscasters had no clue what to say.

    ETA: Slight correction — it was audible in the background of at least one broadcast. Not the same clip.

  139. 139.

    Mnemosyne

    July 30, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    @cckids:

    This clip might be slightly more audible.

  140. 140.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    July 30, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    @Russ: The Village right now sounds like concern trolls on an atheist or feminist or liberal Christian site where somebody finally shuts up a vicious troll by pledging $5 to PP every time the troll posts, scaring the troll off, and the concern troll jumps in whining that the board regulars are “stifling debate” or engage in “groupthink”.

    Apparently fundraising based on the GOP’s rhetoric is hitting too close to home … pierced the Village bubble for a moment, I guess.

  141. 141.

    Another Holocene Human (now with new computer)

    July 30, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    @Mnemosyne: That was a great day. A bunch of us were standing around the TV at work, not moving or speaking, watching to see that Bush and Cheney actually fucking left. I think as Cheney powerchaired away we started flinging Darth Vader comments and so on.

  142. 142.

    HR Progressive

    July 30, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    @MomSense: Yes, it’s the beltway-centric trick of “Well, I want to blame those dirty hippies, but the conservatives are so full of shit, I’ll just say they’re both terrible, and serious people will nod in approval”.

    Nobody should be allowed to get away with it anymore.

  143. 143.

    SuzieC

    July 30, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    @Violet:

    So, does Chuckles The Toad think that if Pres. Obama had lunch with Boner and his guys, and implored them,please don’t impeach me,bros! That all would be well and DC would enter a Broderian paradise?

  144. 144.

    Patricia Kayden

    July 30, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    TBogg,

    I shouldn’t have read your post. My blood pressure has shot way up. I can’t with these idiots!

    This is the very reason why I watch MSNBC in small doses lately. My head will explode if I have to watch Chuck spouting such nonsense with a straight face.

  145. 145.

    Jeffro

    July 30, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Is it just me, or have American flag lapel pins kinda quietly dropped off of American pols’ must-have list? I was looking at the other post w/ Rand Paul lying about not being a racist (while Corey Booker looked on) and noticed, neither seems to have the Standard Uniform on.

  146. 146.

    r€nato

    July 30, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    “I think the White House ought to be embarrassed for how they’re trying to play this.

    I know I’m late to this but jeebus on a cracker, what fucking stupidity. Chuck Todd is clutching at his pearls because the White House is taking full advantage of the foolishness and extremism of the Republican party?

    I was going to say “politics ain’t beanbag” but this doesn’t even fall under the definition of “hardball”. When the defense doesn’t bother to cover deep, of course the quarterback throws long.

  147. 147.

    coin operated

    July 30, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    @scav: I was just saying that on another blog. Go ahead, teabaggers…let’s see how far that rabbit hole goes!!!

  148. 148.

    Sandia Blanca

    July 30, 2014 at 11:26 pm

    So does this first Tbogg posting confirm that Cole is safely ensconced in his program?

  149. 149.

    WaterGirl

    July 30, 2014 at 11:34 pm

    @Sandia Blanca: I think so.

  150. 150.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    July 30, 2014 at 11:44 pm

    @Mandalay: Meh.

    The DCCC and DSCC have triple-match thingies several times every month – it makes sense to give them something then. Giving directly to good candidates is also important, but having the national organizations have a decent amount of funding is important too.

    (I’m not excusing Walsh’s plagiarism.)

    Sure, all the fundraising e-mails can be a little annoying, but it’s easy enough to delete them if one doesn’t want to read them. They can also be funny – “Gee, what hysterical thing will they come up with next?!?” ;-)

    Isn’t it more annoying when the guys and gals on our side can’t get their message out?

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  151. 151.

    Sandia Blanca

    July 31, 2014 at 12:15 am

    @WaterGirl: All signs seem to be positive. Hope it’s going well for him.

  152. 152.

    WaterGirl

    July 31, 2014 at 12:56 am

    @Sandia Blanca: Agree on both counts. I was so glad to see the post from TBogg today!

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