Lots of great NCAA action on tap for today. I’ll be following the contests involving SEC teams closely. Many of the games could rightly be termed tune-ups, but there are some genuine upset threats on the schedule. For example, Alabama better not be looking past Wisconsin. I wouldn’t assume Notre Dame will beat Texas. And there would be much rejoicing as well as copious wailing and gnashing of teeth if the Hokies take down the Buckeyes on Monday.
Any predictions?
schrodinger's cat
How is Patsy Marie today? Is she a conehead or coneless?
divF
Stanford fans are not going to like that map.
ETA:
“And there would be much rejoicing … if the Hokies take down the Buckeyes on Monday.”
Anyone taking down the Buckeyes is disproportionately a cause for rejoicing among the other Big 10 schools.
TriassicSands
Ah, the poor Buckeyes, they can’t get any respect. They beat — convincingly — three great teams last year to win the title, but for some reason people still want to hate the team from one of the most boring states in the country. I think the hatred was warranted when Woody Hayes was coach, but that was decades ago.
It will be interesting to see who starts at QB.
divF
@TriassicSands:
True, but the alumni of the other schools from that era have long memories.
Mike J
@TriassicSands: Whoever is playing them should have sings about beating the Denalis.
divF
@Mike J: Or the Buckwheats.
Gator90
I predict I will be buzzed by the second quarter of tonight’s Miami-Bethune Cookman clash.
eldorado
awww…i can spot my golden hurricanes on there, the poor little dears
AnotherBruce
@TriassicSands: That’s what separates Big Ten fans from other fans. We don’t do the SEC chant, we hate the other teams, but especially the Buckeyes.
Botsplainer
@TriassicSands:
Team hatred takes decades to dissipate, and as soon as you think it abated, they earn new enmity.
Botsplainer
And look for Satan on Earth (aka Bobby Petrino) to eke out a mild upset over War Tired of Hearing It Eagles.
dp
I predict my LSU Tigers will ultimately prevail over mighty McNeese State. Things start getting real next week when they go to #Clangaville.
Betty, how do your Gators look?
Big ole hound
@divF: Any time Urban Meyer gets hammered I rejoice . Same for Harbaugh. Go Hokies and make my weekend.
srv
Football is for wussies:
Gex
OT OT: Read in the Chicago paper that Rowan county licenses are going out sans signature and the judge said that couples are taking a chance on them.
I know Omnes thought that wouldn’t be important.
I do know I expect the kind of people who have challenged the voter registration of every voter with a Hispanic name in some counties will gleefully challenge these marriages. I wouldn’t risk all the financial and legal arrangements that marriage provides based on a hope that the judges in KY will find the licenses valid without the signature.
Big ole hound
@srv: Our military’s future leaders already cheating. What a surprise. Thow then all out of West Point. Why should the taxpayers be on the hook for such crap. America’s finast? BULLSHIT
Betty Cracker
@schrodinger’s cat: Coneless and lounging!
@dp: Rebuilding year with a new coach and an unsettled QB picture. My expectations are low, but I think they’ll win today.
Steeplejack
@Betty Cracker:
Thanks for clearing up the murk a bit, Betty. I was just looking at the on-screen channel guide and pondering some of the oddball games coming up today, e.g., Norfolk State-Rutgers, Wofford-Clemson, Holy Cross-Monmouth, Wagner-Rice, Lincoln-Cheyney (?!). That last game, if someone quizzed me, I wouldn’t have been able to answer whether they are really colleges at all, much less where they are. Ditto Wagner, for that matter.
Okay, in honor of Raven I just put on the Georgia game, but if it descends into a bloodbath too soon I’ll have to switch away. I don’t like these tune-up games very much. “But Slippery Rock gets a huge paycheck!” Yeah, whatever.
greennotGreen
Is that in the return to the 1950s or football?
Cervantes
You did say it is an open thread, right?
You ask:
Yes. The author of the above will be accused of “whitesplaining.”
(Read the whole thing. It’s good.)
srv
@Big ole hound: Actually, it’s encouraged. They’re supposed to wear helmets, but some think that’s for weaklings.
Really brave men go into combat with PTSD, not come out of it with PTSD.
At least the cadets aren’t kidding themselves, like all the college football fans are. I, for one, look forward to all those hard hits today.
redshirt
There’s no fan base for college football in New England. No one cares about BC. It’s weird given the rabid passion that follows professional sports.
DCrefugee
Go Dawgs!
Go whoever is playing North Carolina!
Villago Delenda Est
@srv: Knobs will be knobs.
Ben
@DCrefugee:
South Carolina, who won on Thursday
Hal
Now this is sports talk
https://youtu.be/cRNPAsAoIM8
Tommy
@dp: Yes. Next weekend.
Gene108
@Steeplejack:
Wagner’s in NJ.
Felixmoronia
@Botsplainer: Coach “Jeebus Guy” Tressel re-ignited the hatred a few years ago.
Go Hawkeyes.
benw
@Gex:
I don’t look forward to the couples accepting these licenses having to be the ones to fight off the inevitable lawsuits challenging their validity. They are accepting personal risk to fight for civil rights for all Americans who want their state separated from the church.
ThresherK
Fascinating map, even if I can’t read all of it. Where’s it from? And are there any teams missing, like South Dakota State’s Jackrabbits?
Mr Stagger Lee
@Botsplainer: I though Nick Saban was Satan, well at least in Louisiana. Speaking of Saban I wonder if the SEC may be in a little of a terrified mode considering the loss the Tide had in the playoffs. I think the Tide will be on a rampage and would love to visit Urban Meyer and the Bucks again.
Of course GO BUCKS!
Linnaeus
@Botsplainer:
I’ve always despised the Buckeyes.
A Ghost To Most
Don’t care for the Horse Chestnuts, no sir I don’t.
Steve from Antioch
Yes, I have a prediction.
College players will continue to get concussions and the lucky few that make it to the pros will continue to get concussions, too. Black athletes – about 45% of NCAA football players, I believe – will continue to bear a disproportionate share of this abuse.
Colleges will continue to charade of “educating” people who would not be on campus were it not for their athletic abilities.
Colleges will continue to cover up the rape culture that is fueled by a system where athletic stars are coddled like fine Wagyu beef – at least as long as they keep producing wins.
Adults who should know better will continue to waste time cheering for this monstrosity because it gives some semblance of meaning to their lives.
Thats my prediction.
A Ghost To Most
And Tebow is once again rejected by the NFL.
AnotherBruce
@Felixmoronia: Hawkeyes lookin’ good. I know its Illinois State, but Drew Ott is looking like a legit terrormonster defensive end.
Eric U.
someone asked me why I hate Michigan more than Ohio State. Well, for one thing I feel sorry for them since they are in Ohio. But the first year I was at Penn State, the game was lopsided, 63 to 14 PSU or something like that. And, whatever his faults, Paterno was not one to run up the score. So that makes me feel better about them.
Elizabelle
Tom Brokaw on C-Span 2, from the National Book Festival in DC. Live.
Having developed cancer (currently in remission), he is telling folks how hard our healthcare system can be for those without his resources. (“If I was a 55 year old mechanic who suddenly discovered I had cancer, I don’t know what I would do.” He mentioned how one is out of luck before one has hit 65.)
He says care is available, but the cost ….
benw
@A Ghost To Most:
No matter how many times he gets rejected by the NFL, he’ll always have that glorious season with the Broncos.
Elizabelle
Brokaw’s apparently written quite an indictment of the American healthcare system, and options for the uninsured. He says he’s done 3 documentaries too.
I hope that hits the mainstream news. They’re wasting his talents talking about Very Serious People consensus stuff. He needs to be out talking about healthcare.
So tired of these Tea Party and Glibertarian invincible types, screaming about Obamacare because they lack either illness, imagination, or empathy.
shell
Again for non-football folks. On TCM this afternoon
1:45- I Walked With A Zombie
3:15- Royal Wedding
Elizabelle
@shell: Gonna switch to “Zombie.”
Own it on DVD, but always up for a viewing. Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is on late tomorrow night. TCM.
gian
@A Ghost To Most:
He might make a decent tight end in the NFL. But his (much celebrated)humility won’t allow him to switch from the thankless job of quarterback to something else.
Elizabelle
Brokaw on investigative journalism: He’s involved with the Livingston Project; deals with i-journalists aged 35 and under.
“More being done than you realize. [They’re] doing it online and digital arenas.”
Mentions Pro Publica.
Great: “the work is being done out there. You just have to go and find it.”
[Not like we have publicly owned airwaves, or 24/7 cable channels with a lot of airtime to fill.]
Same deal as cancer. Once you have it, the consumer has to go find the information and evaluate it.
Same thing if you want actual investigative journalism.
Mack
I picked Notre Dame and Alabama to win in my pool, but I’d like to see upsets in both games. My mighty Dores looked shitty against Western Ky, and lost. The only team I grew up hating was USC, because I was a Bruin fan. But now I just hate Alabama.
O/T, Ben Carson getting hyped all over the place, BTW, and he scares me because evangelicals. They largely sat out the last two elections, but were a force for W. Can any of y’all make me feel better about this?
Ultraviolet Thunder
@A Ghost To Most:
In MI we refer to The Hairless Nuts and everyone knows who we mean.
Cervantes
@Elizabelle:
I will not miss Tom Brokaw.
Assuming I outlive him — not a given.
Germy Shoemangler
@Elizabelle: And online searches for info about politics (and cancer) yield up so much noise. The snake oil fraud peddlers.
Cervantes
@Elizabelle:
Don’t quote me but I think his daughter is still a physician.
Elizabelle
@Cervantes: He redeemed himself a little for me with this appearance.
Cannot abide his Morning Joe VSP seances.
Anyway, got “I Walked with a Zombie” on now, and it’s miles better.
Talking about bitter putrescence. No beauty here, only death and decay.
But it looks so damn good in B&W.
Felixmoronia
@AnotherBruce: Have to keep an eye on the Paulsen brothers: 6’5′ 290lb freshman twin back-ups on the O-line.
Germy Shoemangler
Bob Hope and Zombies
Germy Shoemangler
Bob Hope skewers republicans
Elizabelle
Love how some of these 40s movies touch on the injustice and the aftermath of slavery.
They just looked at St. Sebastian as the figurehead of a slave ship. Host tells nurse that the island people came from slavery; they still cry at births and celebrate at death.
Mike in NC
The good die young, so expect Tom Brokaw and Dick Cheney and their ilk to survive well into their 90s.
Germy Shoemangler
@Mike in NC: Look at Henry Kissinger. He’s outliving all his critics.
shell
@Mike in NC: Cheney’s definitely got a document signed in blood hidden away somewhere.
FlipYrWhig
@Mack: I highly doubt that evangelicals sat out the past two presidential elections. I’ve heard that before too but it doesn’t ring true. Evangelicals are the Republicans’ most loyal foot soldiers. IOW anyone who digs Ben Carson is already a dyed in the wool wingnut and regular voter.
raven
Whew, I really feel like shit but went anyway. It was ugly at the half and I could see the weather coming and now they shut it down because of lightning. The Illini, who got lighteninged out last night struck early and it’s 14-0 already/
A Ghost To Most
@Ultraviolet Thunder:
Ha, I had never heard that term, but I will surely not dispute it.
burnspbesq
@Gene108:
That will be BIG news to the residents of Staten Island.
Linnaeus
Northwestern just might pull off the upset vs. Stanford.
burnspbesq
@Steve from Antioch:
And my prediction is that you will continue to be a bitter little man whose opinions matter to almost no one here.
A Ghost To Most
@gian:
True and true. Ceiling Cat loves me more.
Tommy
This is going to sound dumb but I will say it. I cut cable a year plus. I forget I am paying for the sports and SEC package on Sling. Had it for months but forgot I was paying for it. The world is a little better now.
Anoniminous
@Mack:
Carson is full of it.
SoupCatcher
@Linnaeus: Well that was a tough game to watch, as a Stanford fan.
Gimlet
What a game. Just when you thought Trump was babbling because of a concussion.
According to a new poll released Friday by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.
In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.
A Ghost To Most
@raven:
So who are/were you rooting for?
Cervantes
@burnspbesq:
I notice you refrained from commenting on the factual assertions, limiting yourself to personal matters and subjective perceptions thereof.
Elizabelle
@Cervantes: Don’t you dare be leaving this planet any time soon. Be healthy.
Brokaw’s on his own. He mentioned there are six (?) doctors in the family, but I was not listening carefully.
Amir Khalid
i see Salon’s movie critic is calling panic stations at the Hillary campaign. I saw Jamelle Bouie do the same thing at Slate, also for no discernible reason. Hillary is not going to get perp-walked out of the presidential race over the emails, which issue has the pundits far more worked up than the public. She remains comfortably ahead of Bernie in the polling despite Bernie’s rise of late, and Joe does not look keen on entering the race given what his family’s already been through this year.
I wonder if there are some liberals whose reaction to Hillary is, “Oh God, not her.”
Amir Khalid
@Gimlet:
Yay for the discerning survey respondents of America.
gogol's wife
@Amir Khalid:
I was reading the front section of the NYTimes late last night, skimming through the horrible news with averted eyes (3-year-old child face down on a beach, desperate refugees crowding onto trains to nowhere, climate devastation, etc.), and I saw something with “Clinton e-mail” in the headline, and I thought, really? Really?
tsquared2001
@TriassicSands: Oh. How. I. Hate. Ohiostate
Elizabelle
Who is Patsy Marie rooting for?
raven
@A Ghost To Most: Dawgs, Illini, Hokies.
Gimlet
@Amir Khalid: That 44% percent looks firm for any opposition but Hillary.
catclub
@Amir Khalid:
I think that was the headline writer. He actually wrote that there is not much there, there, and that she did something that might have been not well thought out. I do not remember much more.
catclub
@Gimlet: How many Latinos in that survey. I think the hate he engendered is under reported. It will turn out to be a big deal.
Mike J
@catclub: Not to mention the fact that nationwide polls mean nothing. You have to win electoral votes. Which states does he flip?
catclub
@Cervantes: Kareem!
Gimlet
@catclub:
No idea.
I’m going to take it at face value without breaking it down, like a “Mitt Romney in a landslide” poll until after a few primaries.
Amir Khalid
@catclub:
My sense is that some pundits are trying to light a fire under what little smoke there is.
catclub
@Amir Khalid:
The ones who forget, or never knew, that between her and Bill, she is the more liberal.
Betty Cracker
@raven: We’re having similar weather. Good day to pile up on the sofa with the dogs and switch back and forth between games!
raven
There’s another one, they just called the GA-LA Monroe game off with 9 minutes to go.
Botsplainer
Hiked 6 miles with the dog this morning, brought him to WorldFest for mauling by women and children, and now am sitting and watching football in my office (conveniently across the street) while the dog destresses before ambling back. He’s out cold.
I wanted to see the Greek dancers but don’t have the heart to wake him.
Wife coming back Monday for 3 weeks before leaving for a month.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@Elizabelle:
I don’t want to spoil anything if you haven’t seen it before (or haven’t seen it in a while), but the rot in that family goes ALL the way down. And it’s explicitly traced back to the fact that the family brought slaves to the island and got rich off their misery. That’s why she had to be a Canadian nurse traveling to a British island in the Carribbean. It never would have gotten through the Hays Office if it had been set in the U.S.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@Botsplainer:
I haven’t been keeping up on your news from home, so I’ll just gently remind you that the Sunk Cost Fallacy is, well, a fallacy. Take good care, as my shrink says.
Betty Cracker
@Elizabelle: This is a Gators household, but she probably pulls for the Dawgs behind my back.
raven
@Betty Cracker: Picks for ex Dawgs for both teams in this shit bowl.
Botsplainer
@Mnemosyne (tablet):
Thanks for that reminder. There has been a reordering of the status quo as far as I’m concerned – there are things that I can accept and even embrace moving forward, given travel and time realities.
Likewise, there are things I can never again passively surrender to, despite my patience.
Betty Cracker
@raven: Saw that! Auburn is looking kinda shaky. More so if this play stands!
Betty Cracker
Now, not so much!
raven
@Betty Cracker: They suck. If they think they are going to win the Natty with no running back they are deep into the kine.
Betty Cracker
@raven: Catching any of the Nebraska-BYU game?
burnspbesq
@Cervantes:
I notice you have nothing useful to say.
Cervantes
@burnspbesq:
Maybe stop before you prove my point beyond all doubt, viz.:
Betty Cracker
Usually have to watch two Bucs games to see this many pissed off people in red shirts!
Cervantes
@catclub:
Yes, the one and only Lew Alcindor, noble servant of the Almighty.
raven
@efgoldman: It was the lightning. It stopped the game once for about an hour. When it cam again there didn’t seem to be any point to keep playing.
raven
@Betty Cracker: I got the PIP going but I have to watch the Illini, this is stunning as bad as Kent is.
Bill Murray
@ThresherK: really, and on the day the jacks beat Kansas for their first win against a Division 1 team
Bill Murray
@Cervantes: burns is the dictionary definition of having nothing useful to say.
Uncle Cosmo
Well this is just bizarre: Maryland 50, Richmond 21–William Likely returned eight punts for 233 yards and a touchdown, breaking the Big Ten conference record for punt return yards in a game set in 1939 by Nile Kinnick, who won the Heisman Trophy that year with Iowa.
Now tell me–you know it’s coming, so wait for it–
how Likely was that?? :p
Mack
Thanks for the info regarding the evangelical vote. One thing I take comfort in is there doesn’t seem to be the exodus of young preachers heading for DC hoping to cash in…I saw a lot of this during the Bush years. Maybe they learned….
Gator90
Extended weather delay at Dolphins stadium. But as long as the game is suspended in the second quartet, they won’t stop selling beer,
Cervantes
@Bill Murray:
In this thread, up to this point, certainly.
I have to quit now. Here’s hoping you have a great evening!
Betty Cracker
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