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A Cry for Help? (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  February 16, 20167:52 pm| 97 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Assholes

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    I’m a little sad that “Jeb” on the gun doesn’t have an exclamation point at the end of it.

  2. 2.

    lol

    February 16, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    “Please fire”

  3. 3.

    Shell

    February 16, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    Seriously, did he actually tweet this?

  4. 4.

    Cacti

    February 16, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    I suggest Van Halen’s “Jump” as Jeb’s 2016 campaign song.

    Might as well jump, Jeb.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    Betty, are you unable to embed tweets like Anne Laurie does? Just curious.

  6. 6.

    khead

    February 16, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    Not as cute as the dog pic Cole posted earlier because – damn – that should win some kind of internets, but have some good kitteh news.

  7. 7.

    Keith P.

    February 16, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    Waiting for Trump to tweet larger gun, with caption “Schlong.”

  8. 8.

    gogol's wife

    February 16, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    What a despicable scumbag.

    That’s what America means to HIM.

  9. 9.

    Seebach

    February 16, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    @Shell: Yes, he did

  10. 10.

    ? Martin

    February 16, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    Italian gun with the safety off. There’s your patriotic, responsible gun owner.

  11. 11.

    gogol's wife

    February 16, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    @khead:

    Just as cute, in my book! (cat person)

  12. 12.

    Mike J

    February 16, 2016 at 8:01 pm

    @Baud:

    Betty, are you unable to embed tweets like Anne Laurie does? Just curious.

    I much prefer the pic of the tweet. I can see it as it appeared without allowing twitter to execute javascript on balloon-juice, and it loads much faster.

  13. 13.

    Mike J

    February 16, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    @? Martin: Belgian, but made in the US.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    February 16, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    @Baud: I’m unable if on an iThang, able on PC products. I’m on an iThang now. But even on PC, I’ll usually render an image so the load time isn’t affected if displaying multiple tweets. As a user, I hate the load time.

  15. 15.

    trollhattan

    February 16, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    @Baud:
    Isn’t “Jeb Bush” redundant in that it’s John Ellis Bush Bush? Sounds vaguely Kenyan, “Bush Bush.”

    Am not sure this is gonna get ‘er done, Jabbers.

  16. 16.

    Luther M. Siler

    February 16, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    I think this might be the single most fucked-up thing I’ve seen so far this election cycle, and that’s including Trump re-tweeting white supremacists half a dozen times. I just cannot WHAT THE FUCK IS HE THINKING.

    Insane. They’re all insane.

  17. 17.

    sharl

    February 16, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    @Baud:

    I’m a little sad that “Jeb” on the gun doesn’t have an exclamation point at the end of it.

    ~
    Adorable red panda and master photoshopper darth™ has got ya covered

    ETA: had to fix the darn link!

  18. 18.

    Hungry Joe

    February 16, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    “You want that gun, don’t you, Zed? — I mean, Jeb. Go ahead, pick it up. C’mon … attaboy! I WANT you to pick it up.”

    “Step aside, Butch.”

  19. 19.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Thanks for the explanation. Agree about load time issues.

  20. 20.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 16, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    ¡Heb! is trying to pander to the ammosexuals. It’s not working.

  21. 21.

    jl

    February 16, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    Did Jeb cook any bacon with it?
    Maybe that will be the next tweet.

    Anyway, the themes and imagery of the GOP primary grow increasingly disturbing every day.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Isn’t “Jeb Bush” redundant

    Yes. Yes he is.

  23. 23.

    Timurid

    February 16, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    What’s even creepier is the wallpaper photo with the (Citadel?) cadet with a black eye…

  24. 24.

    gene108

    February 16, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    I doubt John Ellis knows how to use it.

    George, Jr. could pull off the country rancher, probably knows his way around a gun, motif.

    John Ellis just seems like the rich entitled douche he was born to be.

  25. 25.

    Mike J

    February 16, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    Imagine if Kanye had tweeted the same picture, but with his name on the gun. Now go read Cole’s post about the Black Panthers.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    @Mike J: Maybe it should be Kanye’s next album cover.

    If they still have album covers.

  27. 27.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    February 16, 2016 at 8:08 pm

    @? Martin:
    Sig is headquartered in Germany and owned by a Swiss company but you are on the right track.

    I only bring it up in case you mention it someplace else – hat e to see you get hit with the “clip / magazine” bullshit

  28. 28.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:08 pm

    @Shell: @Seebach: @? Martin: Governor Bush was visiting the FN factory in South Carolina today and they presented him with the gun in the picture he tweeted out. The Internet being what it is, hilarity ensued!

    Its a FN (Fabrique Nationale [Herstal]). Its definitely a FNX because it has the external hammer, but because of the angle in the pic I can’t get a clear read of the top or side of the barrel, but I think its a FNX 40.
    https://www.fnamerica.com/products/handguns/fnx-series/

    Fabrique Nationale (FN) is the American branch of Fabrique Nationale Herstal from Belgium, which is largely responsible for bringing John Moses Browning’s semi-automatic (self loading) pistols to life.
    http://www.fnherstal.com/primary-menu/about-us.html

  29. 29.

    redshirt

    February 16, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    So many funny responses on twitter. That guy from the British office tweeted a pic of an umbrella with the word “Britain”.

    But yeah, funny, but also disturbing. America!

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel

    February 16, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Like an ATM machine. Or Boutros Boutros-Ghali. May he RIP in peace.

  31. 31.

    Mike J

    February 16, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): It’s a Fabrique Nationale (FN), but made in South Carolina.

  32. 32.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): Its not a SIG Sauer. And if it was, all the SIG firearms in the US, because of importation controls, are manufactured in New Hampshire. It is a Fabrique Nationale/FN, which is the American subsidiary of Fabrique Nationale Herstal (FNH). FNH is Belgium’s premier firearms manufacturer. FN USA took the production contract for M4 Carbines and M16 Rifles from Colt (one of the reasons Colt went into bankruptcy) and is the primary supplier of those arms to the US military. This firearm is specifically an FNX and I think its an FNX 40, but its hard to tell because of the position in the gun in the picture – even expanding the picture I can’t get a clear read on the top or side of the barrel or the side of the slide. Governor Bush was visiting FN’s South Carolina factory and they clearly presented him with a FNX with a personalized slide.

  33. 33.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    February 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: and all others that followed!
    OH, I thought it was a SIG Sauer, thanks

  34. 34.

    WereBear

    February 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    Holy Son of Gawd on a pogo stick.

    Like all Bushie things, both stupid and deeply deeply disturbing.

  35. 35.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    America Belgium.

  36. 36.

    slag

    February 16, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    I’m wondering if, in light of recent events, gun and suicide allusions are a bit too much of a bummer.

  37. 37.

    Sad_Dem

    February 16, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    Did they put his name on the top of the slide because he holds his gun like a Central Casting street punk?

  38. 38.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    @jl: Senator Cruz didn’t actually cook any bacon with his AR 15. As a semi-auto he can’t get the barrel hot enough even with extended magazines to adequately cook bacon. It was a stupid, and potentially gastronomically dangerous, stunt.

  39. 39.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): The stylized FN on the grip gives it away. Also, SIG’s grips are more rounded, especially on their two polymer pistols: the P250 (Double Action Only hammer fired) and the P320 (striker fired). The frames on both the P250 and the P320 are both imprinted with SIG SAUER about 2/3 of the way up the grip.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    @Sad_Dem: No. Because the FNX has both front and rear serrations on the slide, as well as other branding and caliber information from FN, the only place with enough room to engrave the slide with a full name is on top.

  41. 41.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    Everybody run!
    John Ellis Bush, Jr.’s got a gun!

  42. 42.

    The Lodger

    February 16, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Obama should advise him not to do that.

  43. 43.

    khead

    February 16, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    @Baud:

    All the other kids with the pumped up kicks?

  44. 44.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    @The Lodger: I don’t think it would do any good. It was a tribal signaling sort of thing. Not just to demonstrate fealty to the 2nd Amendment, but to demonstrate to the heavily Islamophobic sub, sub-culture among gun owners.

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    @khead: I love that song!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ&spfreload=10

  46. 46.

    jl

    February 16, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: That is horrible news. What are the GOPers going to do for all-American recipes? Maybe could heat up donuts with them or something? Probably could get a good baker’s dozen on a barrel.

    Edit: shoot a hot dog out of a gun and into a hot dog bun? Like the Supreme Apocalypse, this will end up a Constitutional Crisis sooner or later.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    @khead:
    @Adam L Silverman:

    The video for that song has fewer guns in it than Jeb’s tweet.

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    @jl: He warmed it up, but there is no way he got it crispy!

  49. 49.

    jl

    February 16, 2016 at 8:37 pm

    @The Lodger: Obama has faith in the common sense of the American people. I learned that listening to his presser today.

  50. 50.

    jl

    February 16, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Canadian bacon is already cooked, right? Cruz would be fine heating up Canadian bacon! I guess that is unpatriotic, socialist and would end up as evidence in Trump’s lawsuit, though.

  51. 51.

    SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel

    February 16, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    @Baud:

    “This is my rifle,
    And this is my gun.
    This is for shootin’
    And this is for fun.”

  52. 52.

    Joel

    February 16, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    America… we’re going to do you like we did Iraq!

  53. 53.

    Pogonip

    February 16, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: If we can have importation controls on well-made products why not on Chinese crap? Write your Congressthing today!

    (Never had, or even fired, a Sig myself, but current and former owners I know are unanimously pleased.)

  54. 54.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:40 pm

    @jl: His faith is either is going to be rewarded or he is going to be very let down. I hope for the former, but expect the latter. And, unfortunately, hope is not a strategy.

  55. 55.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    @jl: Not sure, I rarely use back bacon. I haven’t made eggs benedict in ages.

  56. 56.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Obama’s heading to a better country once his term ends. What does he really care?

  57. 57.

    Pogonip

    February 16, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    I am contemplating a tube of Max Factor Pan-Stik, considering whether to have POGONIP engraved on it.

    (Before anyone asks, I’ve been hoarding tubes for years, it’s not back on the market in the U.S. i keep writing P & G, though.)

  58. 58.

    redshirt

    February 16, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    @Baud: Hawaii?

  59. 59.

    ? Martin

    February 16, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Looked like a Baretta to me, but I now see the differences.

    Safety is still off.

  60. 60.

    Baud

    February 16, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    @redshirt: I’m sure it won’t be that exotic.

  61. 61.

    raven

    February 16, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    @Baud:

    Another Country
    Electric Flag

    If I could lose
    All my troubles
    By running away
    No, no I wouldn’t stay
    No I wouldn’t

  62. 62.

    Sad_Dem

    February 16, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Well, that just goes to show that those newfangled guns are inferior to the venerable 1911, which has room on the side of the slide for the Second Amendment!

  63. 63.

    lumpkin

    February 16, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    Ummm – Jeb: Russian roulette is best played with a 6 shot revolver.

  64. 64.

    Heliopause

    February 16, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    It just occurred to me, if The Rapture occurs between now and election day Bernie Sanders will be the only candidate left.

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    @Pogonip: The import controls are kind of funky. I just know they exist, I’m not a specialist on them. In this case I think its actually a German rule, rather than an American one, but I may be wrong. I know that Springfield Armory has no problem importing the four Springfield branded XD lines from Croatia, that KRISS can get the Sphinx line imported from Switzerland, that GLOCK is still able to bring Austrian produced GLOCKs in, etc.

    As for SIG SAUER, they make an excellent product. Of course the market is so crowded now that unless one is going for one of the real budget firearms, the products are all competitive. You’ll see lots of people arguing over which is or is not better, but at the end of the day a lot of it is personal preference. For instance, I’m not a big fan of the Beretta M9 the Army uses and issued me for my deployment in Iraq, but that’s because the grip is very large and square and didn’t fit my hands well. The commercial line does make a compact,but that wasn’t an option with the Army issued one. Nothing wrong with the firearm itself, for what it was designed to do, just not very customizable. So I wasn’t too pleased with it as it wasn’t comfortable for me.

    This is why the Army is doing a new handgun trial and modularity of the system is a requirement. And why SIG came out with the P320 – its their striker fired modular handgun. So the serialized piece – the actual gun – is a removable fire control unit. It can be placed into 12 different grip modules (frames): Full, Carry, Compact, and Subcompact multiplied by Large, Medium, and Small. And the fire control unit is convertible from 9mm to .40 to .357 SIG with a conversion kit. The .45, for the time being, only fits the .45 grip modules. So this would allow a large amount of modular convertability. Have a Soldier with a really big pair of mitts? Issue them a large grip module. One of the “fun size” colonels I know that have hands smaller than mine? Give them a small grip module. Their other potential market is in Europe. Several countries limit the total number of firearms one can purchase and own/possess. With the P320 all you have to do is buy one firearm with the serialized fire control unit and then buy however many conversion kits you want.

    Other companies are working on similar systems. Beretta has two different modular polymer pistols: the Nano and the Pico. And the new Ruger American Pistol has a similar, removable fire control unit, but there’s no indication they’re planning on going as modular as SIG.

  66. 66.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    @? Martin: Beretta 92s, in this case the comparable one would be the 92FS (the civilian version of the M9), have an open slide. Also, the thumb safety goes the other way. And the Beretta logo on the grips is three arrows pointing up towards the slide in a circle.
    http://www.beretta.com/en-us/92-fs/

    As for the safety being off: yes it is.

  67. 67.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    @Sad_Dem: There are a small number of 1911s that come with both front and rear slide serrations.

  68. 68.

    Mandalay

    February 16, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    It took the Feds a really long time to get pissed, but they are now officially done with playing nice with Cliven Bundy:

    Cliven Bundy was described as a “lawless and violent man” and was ordered held without bail by US District Judge Janice Stewart for his role in a standoff with the federal government in 2014.

    The judge said Bundy, 69, is a flight risk and a danger to the community in the bail hearing Tuesday afternoon in downtown Portland.

  69. 69.

    lumpkin

    February 16, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @lumpkin:

    And the proper number of cartridges to load is between 0 and 6, depending on your risk tolerance.

  70. 70.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    @Mandalay: I’m pretty sure they were pissed very quickly, but they decided they’d pick their spots. Its important to remember that at the Bundy Ranch standoff law enforcement, from all levels, was outnumbered four to one. And Bundy’s supporters, as we all remember from the pictures of the guys on the overpass, had the high ground.

  71. 71.

    ET

    February 16, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    The comments are great. I also saw a comeback tweet with a photo of America Ferrera with the word America.

  72. 72.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    February 16, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    @Baud: Don’t forget Poland.

  73. 73.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    February 16, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    It looks to me like Bush isn’t threatening to kill himself, but rather that he’s threatening to kill America unless it makes him president.

  74. 74.

    The Golux

    February 16, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @Sad_Dem:

    Did they put his name on the top of the slide…

    “When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
    Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
    Till I get to the bottom and I see you again
    Yeah yeah yeah”

    The Fabs – ahead of their time.

  75. 75.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 16, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    @Baud: America Belgium.
    It is Tuesday

  76. 76.

    Pogonip

    February 16, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: You’ve sold me! I’d love a small grip module. I find most automatics uncomfortably squarish (is that a word?), just like you.

    Er, SEMI-automatics (just in case there’s a clip/magazine pedant lurking).

  77. 77.

    maya

    February 16, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    he’s threatening to kill America unless it makes him president.

    No, his next tweet will be a photo of the kitten he will shoot if he isn’t elected.

  78. 78.

    Eric U.

    February 16, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    If I were Jeb!, I would get someone who knows what they are doing to make sure that gun doesn’t have a round in the chamber. Especially since they handed it to him with the safety off, maybe they were trying to pull a fast one

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    February 16, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    Telling that the engraving is most readable when the weapon is aimed to shoot something on THE LEFT.

  80. 80.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 16, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I carried a 1911. I liked it.

  81. 81.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    @Pogonip: Try the P320. Unless you prefer DAO, then try their P250. I’ve shot the P250: it is, perhaps, the smoothest DAO trigger I’ve ever seen outside of a performance center tuned S&W revolver.

    The grip modules run about $40 as aftermarkets and come in black, flat dark earth, and olive drab/green.

  82. 82.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Almost every modern semi-auto, other than the GLOCK has the same grip angle as the 1911.

  83. 83.

    Sad_Dem

    February 16, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, well, you could cut a flat into the serrations and engrave that, now couldn’t you? Sheesh, gun threads…

  84. 84.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 16, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    @Sad_Dem: Oy vey.

  85. 85.

    JCT

    February 17, 2016 at 12:00 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m looking forward to the new P320 competition model coming out later this year. Have a P226 SAO that has finally displaceds my BHP as my favorite 9mm.

    Love that Jeb’s firearm has the safety off. Looks like the NRAs mantra that everyone (including untrained idiots ) should own a gun is moving right along .

  86. 86.

    Ruckus

    February 17, 2016 at 12:15 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I also carried a 1911. Me likie not so much. But that was mostly from how loose it was. I’d bet it was an original model. Or possibly one late enough that it had seen use in WWII.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 17, 2016 at 12:21 am

    @Ruckus: That was often the problems with the M9s, though the 1911s for the military were intended to be lose. In the case of the M9s you never knew who had it before you and how they did or did not take care of it.

  88. 88.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 17, 2016 at 12:22 am

    @JCT: I think its a great platform.

    As for Governor Bush: it is what it is.

  89. 89.

    The Republic, Blah Blah Blah...

    February 17, 2016 at 12:24 am

    We know you’re losing Jeb but suicide isn’t the answer…

    Now now… let’s not be so fast to rush to judgement on this one…

    Give Jeb time to think it through on his own…

  90. 90.

    Ruckus

    February 17, 2016 at 12:36 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    This was 45 yrs ago and the navy was not in line for the latest personal weapons at the time, except for the brown water navy. We had BARs, Thompson 45 subs, 1911 and I believe M1 Garand, although not positive about that. Never saw an M16 in 4 yrs. We did have (2) 5in single barrel which would fire 30 rounds a min auto fire, torpedoes, which were never fired, ASROC which was and guided missiles, also launched. We were good at obliterating towed targets with those. So hard to say that we didn’t have modern weapons, just not hand held ones.

  91. 91.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 17, 2016 at 12:39 am

    @Ruckus: Tracking. The M9s weren’t intended to be loose, but a lot of them had been poorly handled and maintained by whoever had them previously.

    The 1911s for the military were supposed to be loose. The really high end with very tight tolerance 1911s take a lot of break in and can be finicky in adverse conditions.

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    February 17, 2016 at 12:49 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    It was also OK that they were loose because no one actually aimed one and the issue rounds were so weak….
    I have fired a late model civilian, tight 1911 with proper loads and that is an entirely different weapon.
    But that’s all in the distant past for me.

  93. 93.

    Applejinx

    February 17, 2016 at 4:52 am

    Well, my Twitter feed had a naked Burt Reynolds on a bearskin rug with ‘America’ captioned on it ;)

  94. 94.

    sukabi

    February 17, 2016 at 4:56 am

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): it will be a LOT harder for him to kill America if he’s not elected.

  95. 95.

    Stardus614

    February 17, 2016 at 10:47 am

    Jeb!’s dick pic.

  96. 96.

    Lawrence

    February 17, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    Suicide is painless.

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