Lose $1 billion and don't pay taxes for 20 yrs and the GOP calls you smart.
Lose your job cuz of that guy and need help, you're a moocher.
— Grumpy Old Man (@Johngcole) October 2, 2016
Trump is a plunder capitalist. Appears big change in his life is going from blowing bankers' money to stealing from people w little wealth
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 2, 2016
By the way, @MarkHalperin pissed on the @nytimes Trump taxes scoop today on @MeetThePress. Old news, didn't prove anything, won't matter.
— Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) October 2, 2016
Fun being in Toledo as this story breaks. I can't find an actual human who buys the "Trump paid no taxes because he's a genius" line.
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) October 2, 2016
Apart from watching the Trumpster dumpster fire, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the weekend?
He lost almost $1 billion in a single year, when he owned three casinos.
But YOU would have "squandered" his tax money. #MoneyBooBoo
— David Waldman (@KagroX) October 2, 2016
Statement from @SenatorReid (D-YOLO) on Trump taxes begins: "As I was saying." pic.twitter.com/U39YjIebSW
— Mike Memoli (@mikememoli) October 2, 2016
dmsilev
I see Harry Reid continues to have no fucks left to give and that Mark Halperin continues to be a shameless GOP-fluffing hack. Always good to have some constants in life.
Also, how would one force a nominee to release their returns? Authorize the IRS to release them, I suppose?
Trentrunner
Next debate:
Trump: “…and our infrastructure, it’s like a third-world country, we don’t build anything great anymore, have you been to LaGuardia?”
Clinton: “Donald reminds me of the story of the man who murders his parents, and then wants mercy from the judge because he’s now an orphan. Donald, you lost nearly a billion dollars in 1995, and, as far as we know, paid $0 in Federal income tax since then. So if you don’t like our country’s infrastucture, why don’t you start putting a few dimes in the basket so we can make it better?”
? Martin
Halperin is probably correct in that it won’t matter – as noted in a previous thread. Trump won’t really lose any support due to this. But it’ll put him further on tilt which will make his ability to close the gap to Clinton all but impossible.
Trentrunner
@? Martin: Helping Clinton win the election is the very definition of “matter.”
sigaba
Hmm how do we make #MoneyBooBoo a thing?
dmsilev
@? Martin: Yeah, if he spends a week lashing out at all and sundry and conducting lineups of the staff in Trump Tower and so forth, that’s a whole 20% of the time remaining until election day. Could be more; as Trentrunner notes above, this is a perfect baseball bat for Hillary to club him with next Sunday.
Or the audience-questioners, for that matter. Could you imagine how Trump would react if a member of hoi polloi dares to question his finances in front of an audience of several tens of million people?
Baud
Trump will use nuclear weapons on somebody if he is president.
NotMax
The anti-Maxwell House.
Rotten to the last drop.
? Martin
@Trentrunner: But it won’t matter in the sense that none of his supporters are likely to drop support due to this. If it does help win the election it won’t be because of the taxes, but because of the secondary effect that Trump is going completely fucking bananapants – which actually started with Machado and I’m guessing is going to continue with some new hit against him about every 5 days so he can never actually escape a news cycle. In that sense, you could have hit him with almost anything that would have had that effect.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Shouldn’t that be @SenatorReid (D-NMFTG)?
Baud
@? Martin:
I wish we would stop repeating this line. Nothing will affect his supporters. That should be taken as a given.
? Martin
@Baud: I’d guess Mark Cuban.
JMG
I am not sure it won’t cost Trump some support, or at least leaners. People dislike the idea they are being played for suckers, and this is pretty much rubbing their noses in it.
Trentrunner
Next debate:
Trump: “I’ve built a beautiful business, I’ve created lots of jobs, I love this country.”
Clinton: “Donald, everybody in this room, me included, has paid more in taxes over the last 20 years than you have. We have helped to pay soldiers, firefighters, teachers, and nurses, to build bridges and tunnels and highways and everything a country needs to run.
So you’re not a “genius” for not paying taxes. That doesn’t make you “smart.”
That makes you a freeloader on all the rest of us who TRULY love our country.”
Karmus
This has probably already been discussed ad nauseum elsewhere, but it’s entirely possible Trump has dug himself a hole so deep that becoming President may be (this fucking word) literally the only way he can see to save himself. To come this far and then blow it would, especially if he is the narcissist he seems to be and feeling a giant pinch, most probably drive him around the bend. Well, further around the bend. Actually, maybe only Donald can tell us the lay of the land from that far around the bend.
Roger Moore
@Baud:
If we were really lucky, they’d be in another country.
BR
Everyone remember to sign up to VOLUNTEER — just find an event and RSVP. Quick. Easy. One month to go.
Chip Daniels
@Baud:
The goal isn’t his supporters.
Its the persuadables who have a harder and harder time saying “I don’t like Trump either, but…”
Baud
@Roger Moore: I don’t know. If we elect him, we deserve it more than other countries do.
NotMax
@Trentrunner
Putting aside that LaGuardia is situated in a terrible, horrible, not very good location for a bustling modern day airport, it is currently in the midst of major construction and reconfiguration projects.
Baud
@Chip Daniels: Right. I agree. Saying it won’t affect his supporters is just being negative.
ETA:. In other words, because it’s a given, there’s no point in saying it.
Iowa Old Lady
@NotMax: Since Trump flies on his own private jet, he probably doesn’t have the faintest idea what LaGuardia looks like. If he had to live like a normal person for a week, he’d collapse in a puddle of tears.
Hal
When Trump supporters find out he hasn’t paid taxes in 18+ years
hovercraft
Ron Insana of CNBC had this response to Gulliani and others calling Trump a genius. ” It takes a certain type of genius to lose a billion dollars, you have to be really good at losing money. DJT Enterprises at its high was trading at $ 35 and ended at 17 cents. ”
I think we can all do without this type of genius anywhere near our treasury.
sigaba
@Chip Daniels: The people, who, in August, may have told a pollster that they’re voting for Trump, are not all crazy nutcases. Some of them are perfectly capable of swinging to Gary Johnson, or even Clinton, or just staying home (though this is a very bad outcome long term).
Also even the people that might still vote for him, can be shamed into not evangelizing to their friends, not volunteering, not giving money. We can let Trumpers be Trumpers but we can also make them unwelcome in polite company. Stories like this do that.
Ivan X
@NotMax: And not a minute too soon. What a shithole. EWR is my new home base.
hovercraft
Help, my words are being disappeared.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Iowa Old Lady: Pretty much; if his jet flies into LaGuardia, he just gets off and gets on his helicopter.
NotMax
@Iowa Old Lady
Would be willing to bet that someone, sometime, was late for or missed a meeting with him and blamed it on congestion at LaGuardia.
Dunno where his plane is hangared, but would rule out LGA.
redshirt
He’s got a point though: Newark airport sucks.
Wyliecoat
@? Martin: it will matter because Democrats who may have stayed home because of tepid feelings for Hillary will show up at the poils because they are scared [email protected]#tless
Iowa Old Lady
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I like to picture him trapped in a middle seat in coach with a kid behind him kicking the back of his seat.
James E Powell
Other than watching the Drumpster Fire, I’m watching the last day of the regular season in baseball. Traditionalists hate it, but I love the modern playoff system because games matter till the last day. Very much looking forward to the playoffs even though my beloved hometown Cleveland Indians are suffering from a plague of injuries to the starting pitchers.
LAO
I need help! So I picked up my new puppy, who I think is about 6 months old. She is crate trained and housebroken, except for the part where she won’t pee on concrete. A problem when you live in NYC. So, she has now twice peed on my rug, immediately after returning from walks. Anyone have any ideas?
RaflW
What’s on the agenda as we wrap up the weekend?
It is finally fall enough to be making the first pot of chicken stock/chicken noodle soup of the season! Won’t eat it ’till tomorrow, as we have leftover lamb meatball harissa for dinner tonight.
hovercraft
@dmsilev:
If a member of the audience asks any hard questions, the debate is rigged. No one at his rallies ever asks tough questions, so if they do they are ringers. Now if only he would call them out in front of the world, he could expose the plot for all to see. Go for it Donald, we’ll stand by you, do it.
scav
@LAO: Find a little rug / cloth to carry along and put down for a bit? gradually make it thinner concrete colored to habituate if need be?
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@? Martin:
He may not lose the support of the pinheads smooching his fat white patootie, but maybe it’ll tip a few tens of thousands of somehow-still undecideds towards HRC.
cmorenc
I have a single “Clinton for President” yard sign in my yard. My neighbor across the street is an angry crazy-uncle type white-guy who has THREE Trump-Pence yard signs in his yard, one in each corner of his lot, one in the middle. I’ve decided that I am going to paste a ‘3’ in the upper-right corner on each side of my Clinton yard sign, in order to make it a Clinton-cubed yard sign. Hopefully, neighbors who got even as far as Algebra-2 in high school will get the nerdy math joke. (This is a decidedly upper-middle-class neighborhood, so chances are pretty good quite a few folks driving or walking by will get it).
RaflW
@LAO: So not even a tree with a tiny square of dirt nearby?
Was she paper trained as part of the process? Maybe have a newspaper pee-spot just inside the apt door for her to use till you somehow (??) train her to pee on concrete.
RaflW
@dmsilev: Unfortunately, any time I see Hack Halperin’s name, I can see his goofy shit-eating grin when he was on the Trump ‘copter, what was that, late last year or early this year. He’s the epitome of soul-selling Beltway garbage.
PhoenixRising
@LAO: When I accidentally adopted an adult dog with that same pattern–just won’t pee on certain surfaces which happen to be the only surfaces available that we can accept dog pee falling on–my wife and I lost 60 pounds between us walking that damn mutt 6 times a day.
More walks to the street, every single time after she eats/drinks, and praise her like she just rescued a baby from a burning building (with treats) every time she squats on pavement. Unless you got a dog as stupid as the one my daughter picked, that should work in about 10 days.
NotMax
@Ivan X
It is what it is.
If the site was vacant today and someone proposed building a public airport there, they would be hustled off to a padded cell before drawing another breath.
Am so old that remember back when EWR was, in every sense imaginable, a depressing sh*thole, with traffic patterns which might as well have been designed by Magritte on very bad acid.
redshirt
@James E Powell: I love the wild card. So many teams and their fans have a rooting interest late into the season.
I can’t imagine when it used to be two leagues the top two teams went to the World Series. People must have checked out in August.
Old Dan and Little Anne
My wife and I got our Clinton-Kaine yard sign yesterday. The house on the corner has one, too. We are in a rather liberal spot but I know there are a couple of RWNJs in the neighborhood. I peeked outside at it about a dozen times last night.
Josie
@LAO:
There are pee pads that have a scent to get them to pee. I used them for my puppy who had never peed on grass. I would put down the pad on the grass and give him treats when he used it. Then I gradually weaned him from the pad to the grass. Lots of praise and treats for good performance.
SenyorDave
Halperin speaks form the heart, he really is the sort of guy who would vote for Trump. Can’t imagine that he would care about the “little people” anymore than Trump.
RaflW
@Karmus: I think his psycho-emotional state is already fragile because he is at some level already having to confront that he might not win. At the times and places in life when most people learn resilience from skinned knees, small losses, maybe even a few hard knocks, Trump was coddled, yes-manned, and also impacted by what sounds like a mean father who gave conditional love only to ‘winners.’
Losing the presidency may well break him. He also has to face that all the plates he has spun for years and years as a con man will probably start crashing. His life is far more examined, and the vast number of people he has screwed over are more emboldened than in his ‘reality’ TV pitchman years.
The long, long con always comes to an end. When the grifter outlives the con, it’s ugly for them. Add in Trump’s emotional frailty, and it’ll be spectacularly bad. Deserved, I think. But bad.
Suzanne
Win.
Ivan X
@redshirt: not if you live downtown, and fly United — Terminal C is now super nice. The rest is terrible.
Steve in the ATL
@LAO: move to Greenwich?
Van Buren
@Iowa Old Lady: I think they made a movie about that once.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@RaflW:
I have the misfortune to hear him every now and then on MSNBC XM. Even his disembodied voice is smarmy. Makes me want to jump in the shower.
hovercraft
@Karmus:
He probably never thought he’d get this far, he’d be gone before he had to endure any real scrutiny. Some great publicity, more business, win win. Once he started winning he was having the time of his life, adoring crowds, secret service, the possibility of being the most powerful man in the world. And he thought that he could bluster his way through without any real digging, now he’s screwed. When he loses the digging will continue.
Baud
Cole and David Sirota are having a conversation on Twitter. Apparently, Sirota’s version of Clinton Rules in that it’s OK to criticize her more because she’s likely to win.
Bill E Pilgrim
Made the mistake of turning on CNN, since MSNBC devolves into a sensationalist tabloid goo on weekends and I wanted some news on in the background while I cooked. The anchor had two guests to discuss the Trump tax disclosures, a Trump supporter and and Clinton supporter. The anchor’s idea of being fair and balanced was to ask the Trump supporter why this didn’t show that Trump was a failed businessman who avoids taxes, and he said it was actually all Clinton’s fault because “the politicians” wrote the tax code.
Then she turned to the Clinton supporter and said “Isn’t this Clinton’s fault? and spent the rest of the segment with everyone arguing about to what degree it was Clinton’s fault.
This was how the Trump tax story was covered.
Because clearly when Trump loses a billion dollars and avoids paying taxes for 20 years it’s Clinton’s fault, the only question was if it was all her fault or just some.
Ivan X
@James E Powell: I agree, and as long as there’s gonna be a wildcard, I like that there is now a second one so there can be a one-game playoff. Creates significant incentive to win the division outright, and eliminates the “who cares” end of seasons when two teams have clinched in a single division and at that point are just playing for home field advantage. Sadly, my team finished 21.5 games out this year. But there’s always next year! Good luck in the playoffs.
raven
My Colombian friend just posted that they turned down the peace treaty!
ThresherK
@RaflW: Here it’s lasagna with chicken sausage and spinach.
And Spousal ThresherK’s cat was desperate enough to climb into my lap yesterday for warmth when his mommy wasn’t at home.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Can I just say, I hope Raven or Billin or one of the other regular Morning Joe watchers will tune in tomorrow morning and give the rest of us a full report. Because I’m thinking Squint is going to be incoherent with fury at the tax story, and the Meat Puppet is going to be at her scolding disapproving den-mother best.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Baud:
Say what the fuck now?
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Yeah, Yolo is in California, not Nevada.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Perfect. Who’s the audience for that dreck, anyhow?
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@raven:
No shit.
ETA: Wow.
raven
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: who’s Billin?
Major Major Major Major
@raven: Whoa. Just checked, NYTimes says it’s too close to call, as of a half hour ago.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: What the fuck now.
raven
@Major Major Major Major: nope
raven
WAPO
BOGOTA, Colombia— Colombian voters have rejected a peace deal with FARC rebels, a surprise outcome that risks prolonging a 52-year-old armed conflict, and in doing so tossed the peace process into chaos.
By a razor margin of 50.25 to 49.75 percent, voters rejected the peace deal, a Brexit-style backlash that few were expecting.
After nearly six years of negotiations, many handshakes and ceremonial signatures, Colombia’s half-century war is not over. Not even close.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/colombians-vote-on-historic-peace-agreement-with-farc-rebels/2016/10/02/8ef1a2a2-84b4-11e6-b57d-dd49277af02f_story.html
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
The rest of his feed is unhinged as well.
A clarifying election, this is.
RaflW
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Halperin’s terribleness was one of the things that pushed me to stop watching Charlie Rose on PBS. I’m sure Charlie still interviews some interesting guests from film, science, etc. But his political episodes were so bad, with Halperin, Brooks and all the other white male toadies just became insufferable. Soon enough, I just found I rarely turn on my TV at all.
Chris
So apparently, Colombia just rejected the peace accord.
Man. There’s something wrong with this species of ours.
Baud
@raven:
People everyone are choosing insanity. Hope we break the trend
Pogonip
@LAO: Take a piddle pad along on walks. Over time, trim the piddle pad down. Much gushing and a goodie when she goes outside, and go bananas and give extra goodies when she finally does go on concrete.
If you have a place to stash it, take one of her poops along on a walk and put it in the gutter where you want her to go.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@raven:
BillinGlendale,CA
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
He is against us.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Baud:
Good boy!
raven
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: o
Anoniminous
@raven:
Disappointing but not surprising.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Baud:
I only wish.
Pogonip
@LAO: Also, keep her off rugs and upholstery till she gets the idea. Otherwise, whenever she smells the previous pee, she’ll think “Oh, yeah, I went here last time, this must be The Place.”
Baud
@Baud: *everywhere”
debbie
So if the $91 million dollar loss in 1995 resulted in Trump’s not having to pay taxes for 18 years, then he supposedly started paying with the 2013 tax year. Unless there’s some other trick.
NotMax
@Baud
Memo to Sirota: Unlike, I dunno, every other major election contest ever?
scav
@debbie: Why assume that? He’s got a longer record of personal failure than that one magnificent effort — and the value of losses as tax magic is hardly news, but is carefully tended and nourished. (I remember it being discussed as a tactic during the 80s).
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@raven:
Wow, that’s even narrower than the razor-thin vote on Québec separatism in 1995.
Wouldn’t you think there would be an automatic recount mechanism for votes that close?
Chris
@Baud:
Yeah. Between Brexit and this, as much as my intellect keeps telling me that X is not Y and X and Y are not Z, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t contemplating November with increasing gloom.
AnotherBruce
@redshirt: Yes, I thought that the one game play in was stupid when I first heard about it. I was wrong, its genius. The reason for it was to reward teams that win their division. The play in teams have to play their ace pitcher for that game while the division champs rest theirs. And yes it keeps about half of the fan bases interested until the last month of the season. And a third until the last week.
Baud
@NotMax: “Both sides” isn’t just for the media.
raven
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Beats me.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: And that isn’t even what ‘Bush Doctrine’ refers to!
lollipopguild
@Major Major Major Major: YOLO=you only live once. Unlike Bond James Bond who only lives twice.
Suzanne
@Chris: I feel you on that. This whole year has just totally fucking sucked on numerous fronts, and I am trying really hard not to engage in magical thinking like feeling that 2016 is cursed, but it is difficult. I am not feeling good about things.
Major Major Major Major
@lollipopguild: I know, it was a bad joke.
Gvg
@LAO: pee pads where you want her to go right after you get back from the walks. She has probably encountered them before. Praise n treats. Gradually try taking a pee pad with you if the first works n put on concrete on walk. Maybe try first when she signals she really has to go. Also try having her watch another dog do what you want, then put her in same place with the fresh smell. Maybe praise the sample dog?
I am trying to train my dog to go on a dog poddy in the house because I work too long. It has a drawer to catch the pee with cat pee crystals, artificial grass on top and you can buy training sent. He doesn’t have the idea yet comments say only 1/3 of pets learn this trick.
Baud
@Chris: I’m not gloomy, but I have some nerves.
All I can say is that our side has been great. Well beyond my expectations. That’s all you can ask for in the end.
lollipopguild
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: The Common Clay of the New West.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@NotMax:
Nope, apparently not.
Source.
waysel
@Chris: This.
sukabi
Drup, Drip, Drip….was expecting a post on Donnies clap.
waysel
@Baud: Nice.
hovercraft
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
My Mom
Carry on..
Baud
@Suzanne: It’s unnerving because I feel like no information is reliable. We’re walking through the dark on faith alone.
Patricia Kayden
@Karmus: I’ve heard crazy conspiracies that Trump is actually trying to get Secretary Clinton elected and that’s why he keeps messing up so spectacularly. Given his ego, I doubt that this is true. I believe he actually believes he would make the best President ever. But at this point, he must know deep down in his sweaty heart that he’ll never be President and that his behavior during this campaign has probably damaged his business prospects beyond repair. Who wants to do business with a bigot?
NotMax
@lollipopguild
Time to reinstate the original name of Taft, California and crowdfund a resettlement program?
;)
Suzanne
@Baud: Agreed. I just want it to be over already. I will feel better in January, I am sure. But right now….def in sword of Damocles territory.
Peter H Desmond
@debbie: the NY Times said that if he made an average of 50 million a year, the 915 billion net loss carryover could soak up 18 years worth of income. if he made $100 million one year, why, then, he could only avoid tax for 17 years!
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
Live and learn. Thanks for that.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@RaflW:
My set died a few years ago (all I had was an ancient little portable set anyway) and I was already at the point that I watched so little TV that it didn’t make sense to invest in new equipment and a cable or satellite subscription, especially as I was retiring and my income was becoming curtailed, and why spend the money? Occasionally I miss it, but mostly not. If I’m traveling, I’m happy to turn on MSNBC or CNN for a couple of hours, but I always end up convinced I made the right decision. If there’s a major speech or debate or something I want to see, I can stream it on the iPad and if I want to listen to live coverage but not watch, I have XM in the car.
lollipopguild
@Major Major Major Major: Not really, a
lot of people are going to go YOLO California? I was there once, nice town.
lollipopguild
@NotMax: I think Hilz is going to build FEMA camps there.
TS
@RaflW:
I see the same – am very much looking forward to the meltdown when Trump is the biggest looser in November – Will give Rove a run for his money.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@hovercraft:
No offense to your mom, but really? (She won’t be offended if I roll my eyes really hard, will she?)
lollipopguild
@sukabi: Donnie has the clap?
NotMax
@NotMax
Shall therefore amend my original supposition to positing that one time his plane was forced to circle and land later than expected. Or not granted deference and priority on take-off. Or both.
LAO
Thanks everyone! Although I’m afraid Steven in Atlanta may be right.
The problem is, I think, she has never been in an urban environment and is totally overstimulated. She is crated right now and crying (again failed to pee on walk). Will take her out again in about 10 minutes.
A neighbor I ran into, had a similar problem and although we never had a conversation in the 10+ years we’ve lived in the same building, she dropped off some wee wee pads to the Doorman for me.
Steeplejack (phone)
@lollipopguild:
Give your snarkmeter a thump, see if it’s on.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Me.
CaseyL
Very bad news in Colombia: why turn it down? what do the people there think will happen now?
IOW, the same questions that came up after Brexit. Too many people are stone, stick, bone-deep stupid and mean. They’ve hugged their grievances so long the grievances are the only things that define them.
I don’t think Trump will win. As weird as it sounds, the US really is in better shape than most other places in the world. Our economy, hampered as it’s been through GOP intransigence, has still recovered better and more quickly than in Europe (including the UK) and Asia. Our body politic, as awful as it is, is still in better shape than Europe (so far, anyway).
So I’m hopeful — guardedly hopeful, I admit — our election result in November will be better than happened with Brexit and the peace treaty.
If I’m wrong, then the only thing left to say is, Where’s that meteor?
WesternPALurker
@debbie: $910 million. 18 years — 3 years previous, 15 years after. So 2010.
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
My TV died in 2006. I find that I don’t miss it at all. I’ve visited friends who have cable and checked out the hundreds of channels they have and saw nothing worth watching. About a third was shopping channels that tried to hard sell overpriced crap that no one needs, most of the rest was seemingly worse than that. I’m going to buy a TV and pay a monthly fee for that? I don’t think so. And now that our “news” is basically republican political channels and local weather and traffic….
NotMax
@CaseyL
Unfortunately, the Vogon constructor fleet does not have a toll-free number.
;)
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@lollipopguild:
No, but not for want of trying.
Ruckus
@lollipopguild:
That would explain the mental issues. Some of those get pretty nasty if untreated.
lollipopguild
@Steeplejack (phone): Yes it is on.
Steeplejack (phone)
@debbie:
The rules in 1995 allowed him to “defray” the loss over the three previous years and 15 succeeding ones, so that would have ended in 2009 or 2010.
However, if he incurred newer losses . . .
lollipopguild
@Ruckus: You are 100% correct.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@LAO: High value treats for outside peeing and no indoor pee pads – that will only normalize indoor peeing. Clean any accident spots with enzymatic cleaner and keep her crated unless she’s in your sight.
If she squats inside, run her outside. Beware that if you punish or frighten her she may just learn to potty in the house out of your sight. Eyes on her or she’s in her crate. Puppies sleep a lot (when they’re not maniacs) so she should be safely dry in her crate. It goes without saying that her crate should be her safe retreat and not jail…
Puppies are a lot of work, as you know. High value treats and lavish vocal praise are your friends. A happy safe place crate is imperative also too. Housebreaking (like all animal training) is as much about dog’s person training as about the dog.
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
How do you know he doesn’t? Are you sure?
It would be wrong not to speculate. Wouldn’t it?
sukabi
@lollipopguild: I hear it was his personal Viet Nam.
Ruckus
@Steeplejack (phone):
That if is doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting.
NotMax
@Ruckus
Some things just play better on a larger screen.
TV + Roku box + Netflix (which can still obtain for a paltry eight bucks a month). Roku now sells their own branded and competitively-priced TVs, so can kill two birds with one stone.
Iowa Old Lady
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I thought avoided the clap was his version of Viet Nam.
Kathleen
@Baud: Welcome back, Baud! I think David “Glenn! Glenn! Over Here! Pick MEEEE!” Shrillrota is still smarting over the fact Glenn didn’t pick him for the Intercept.
Mai.naem.mobile
I was driving early this morning and ended up behind a car with Clinton,Kirkpatrick and an anti Trump bumpersticker that I couldn’t make out. Nice way to start off the week.
Peter H Desmond
@Ruckus: there may be new, un-burned russian investors?
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Iowa Old Lady:
Yeah, that’s the link in my comment.
Ruckus
@sukabi:
I bet it was worse for the women.
Also a lot of people got injured in Vietnam so it’s quite possible that he got injured constructing his own Vietnam. In his war that would mean VD or a Bobbitt. Neither seem all that pleasant.
satby
@LAO: look for “puppy training pads” which has a scent that encourages peeling and pooping on them. Have it in a place where the pup can get to and pee, praise lavishly (with small treats) when it goes on the pad. Once you have it trained to the pad, take a pad outside and put it in a good place to go, again praising and treating when the job is done.
And get the enzyme stuff to eliminate dog pee odor in the rug.
Edit, or what Josie said.
Ruckus
@Peter H Desmond:
I understand those guys don’t play all that nice if you try to fuck them. And Donnie knows no other way.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Ruckus:
His “doctor” says he is the most amazingly healthy person ever to seek the presidency. Who the hell am I to question a professional like that?
Iowa Old Lady
If you haven’t seen the Family Feud skit from SNL, you should watch it. I laughed out loud.
Kathleen
@RaflW: I have stopped even landing on any “news” shows for 1 minute “just to check” and listening to NPR completely and am much happier. Well, as happy as an Irish Catholic female raised in the 50’s is allowed to be.
Iowa Old Lady
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I should have known!
Ruckus
@NotMax:
I get Netflix on my big screen mac. Did a Roku box for the roommate who also doesn’t have cable.
LAO
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): thanks for the excellent advice. I’m meeting with a dog trainer tomorrow (should be called a person trainer, lol). She’s sleeping peacefully in her crate, when she wakes up, we will go out a try again. Thank goodness, she so cute.
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
You are the queen of understatement. I bow to your greatness.
Mnemosyne
On the bus heading back to California after my campaign trip to Nevada. I somehow ended up sitting with the four Millennial college students, who are nice kids but … kids. Good thing I brought earbuds, says the curmudgeonly old lady.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Mai.naem.mobile:
I’m really kind of stunned by the absence of bumper stickers this year.
But I’m not putting any HRC (or anti-Trump) stickers on my car, because I don’t want it keyed or the windshield smashed in. Not sure what motivates the Trumpsters to refrain. Surely they can’t be afraid of wussy Hillaryites. Surely.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Mnemosyne:
Thank you for doing that, Mnem.
Did you get some good knitting accomplished at least?
Bill E Pilgrim
You know, it occurs to me that this past couple of weeks was Trump trying to reach out to women and African American voters. This was clearly what his advisers told him he needed to do, and from some of the places he visited and things he said, it was clear that he was going to at least give it a go.
This past few weeks. That was him, trying to do that.
So imagine if he were elected and figured he didn’t need to give a shit about that anymore, what he’d be like then.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@LAO: You’re very welcome.Ask the trainer to tell you specifically which of your behaviors will encourage what you want Maggie to do – the trainer will love that. Take the scented pads out with you. I beg you not to use them indoors; dogs, especially pups, will develop a substrate preference and you don’t want it to be pee pads indoors.
Have fun! Tell your trainer you understand that s/he’s a people trainer! That will make you a winner as a client…
Baud
@Kathleen: From what little I’ve seen, The Intercept has been pro-Trump. (I may only be seeing the bad stuff.)
Chyron HR
@Mnemosyne:
What about the two you lost? Did you ever find their bodies?
redshirt
Re: Columbia. Why are you voting on a peace treaty? Let the government sign it or not.
There’s lots of things people shouldn’t be able to vote on.
Jeffro
@BR:
Seconded! Did 3 hours of voter registration today and actually helped quite a few people with other voting-related questions. Lots of nice people, lots of thumbs-ups and smiles and thank you’s. To keep it intriguing, also got to chat with one guy who was under the impression that Bernie was still in the mix (um) and another who knew ALL ABOUT Democratic voter fraud in Ohio in 2012 (we were discussing this in Virginia)…ah well…still totally worth it!
Chyron HR
@Jeffro:
Where in Virginia do you guys work?
Mai.naem.mobile
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: in the Metro Phoenix area I’ve seen way way more Clinton stickers than Trump. I’m not saying it portends anything as far as the election but I saw plenty of Mitt stickers in 2012 and McCain’s in 08.
Jeffro
@Chyron HR: This wasn’t at my workplace, this was me helping to register voters out front of a grocery store in NoVA today.
Mary G
@LAO: Send Anne Laurie pictures to post or put up on Flickr/Dropbox yourself? Cuteness is in short supply these days.
Davis X. Machina
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Had a cantaloupe-sized rock take out the back window on my minivan in 2004 — Kerry and anti-war stickers, I reckon. Cops weren’t too surprised, and not very interested.
No stickers since then.
BR
@Mnemosyne:
Great! I got a confusing email today from the Clinton campaign saying they didn’t have the budget to keep running the buses, but I couldn’t tell if it was a usual “if we don’t get enough donations now we can’t do it” or if it was actually happening.
Do you know?
hovercraft
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
Roll harder, she watches the worst of the worst on TV, the Duggars, the paternity crap, the judges, basically if it’s nonsense she watches it. And just as bad she buys the gossip rags at the checkout, including the National Enquirer. Her saving grace is that in spite of all this, politically she’s on the side of the good guys, and she does watch Anderson Cooper, hates Rachel, so at the end of the day she’s all right. She spent today ranting about how our democracy is unfair, since it lets assholes lie Donald not pay taxes while the rest of us have to.
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
I got four Tiny Hillarys knitted on the way out, but I haven’t had a spare non-car moment to embroider the hair and sunglasses. Trying to embroider in a moving vehicle is just asking for an ER trip.
@Chyron HR:
Eh, not my department. MY van was ready to go! Eventually, they got moving.
I have a feeling that herding volunteers in a place with as many distractions as Las Vegas is like trying to get a group of toddlers out of a ball pit.
Ruckus
@lollipopguild:
You must be wrong.
That never happens.
Mnemosyne
@BR:
No idea, sorry. We were dealing with the Nevada crew for the most part.
Kathleen
@Baud: Ha! Why am I not shocked that they support Trump.
BR
@Baud:
Sirota and Hamsher are who I used to call the two scoops of stupid back in 2008. Good to see at least one scoop didn’t melt.
Suzanne
@Davis X. Machina: I have to confess that if I am feeling under the weather and I see a Republican bumper sticker, I have been known to cough on the door handle.
BR
@Mnemosyne:
Thanks. I’ll ask around.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@BR: I guess we’ll find out if G has to pick her up in Barstow.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@BR:
I got the same email, and I kind of shrugged it off because, hey, Mnem is already on that bus, right?
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Mnemosyne:
Awe + Some.
Chyron HR
@Jeffro:
Well, if you were on Columbia Pike, thanks again.
Peale
@redshirt: makes little sense to me. So basically a little more than half the population wants to continue to fight. But it appears to be the half with most to lose (or gain, if you’re in a paramilitary) by having hostilities flare up again.
Chris T.
Dammit, I had a nice Anatole France quote and FYWP seems to have eated it. Well, an opportunity to improve it, perhaps…
Let’s try again. Anatole France:
My variant, which (like France) I use ironically but Giuliani attempted to use in all sincerity:
The tax law, in its majestic equality, permits the rich and poor alike to deduct their corporate jets.
sherparick
@? Martin: I think it will hurt him a bit with some blue collar whites in the rust belt states, and may push his ceiling down to 42%. But 35% of the voting public does not care that Trump does not pay taxes. They think they should not pay taxes, at least if there are any Democrats in power. They want Trump because he is an authoritarian, racist, misogynistic, sociopath who will blow up the U.S. Constitution. Those are the traits they love because they believe Trump will put not just Hilary in jail, but Bill, Barack, Michelle, most Democratic office holders, climate change scientists, Blacks, Hispanics, and liberals in jail as well. After all Rush, Fox, Sean, Laura Ingraham, and Ann Coulter have be calling us traitors and engaging in treason for 30 years since the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine by Reagan. Now about another 5 to 10% are thinking of Trump as their big FU to the establishment as Michael Moore said on Meet the Press today and the tax thing may give them pause to realize Trump in charge of the U.S. Government will essentially be the same as reviving Caligula and making him President of the United States.
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: Gasp!!! It’s not Presidential to curse, Baud. What is happening to you? Too much Trump.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Mai.naem.mobile:
That’s really encouraging, if completely anecdotal. Thanks!
RaflW
I think we have today’s winner!
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Patricia Kayden:
No, no, no! Baud was just following instructions, to the letter. Link back.
(Blame me, I’m the liberal mob enforcer bitch.)
different-church-lady
@SuzanneI’d think that would make the day of a witnessing bystander a bit more interesting.
patroclus
I don’t view the Colombian vote as necessarily a bad result. The deal would have let all FARC members stay out of jail – with no prosecutions despite decades of killings and thousands of victims – if they merely made a statement admitting guilt. Imagine negotiating an agreement with the Bundys that granted a general amnesty or worse, an agreement like that with ISIS or Al Qaeda. It would also have allowed FARC immediate status as a legitimate political party, with the possibility of winning near-term elections and forming a government or leading local or state governments. The opponents want a “better” deal – I think they should be allowed to express that preference if a referendum is called. Now, granted, it seems silly even to have a referendum, but given that the government wanted to make political hay out of it and they quickly scheduled it, citizens are entitled their political views. FARC has now said that they will continue to seek peace (as will the government) so maybe a re-negotiation is possible. Maybe with a South African-style public Truth and reconciliation Commission; maybe with something less than a general amnesty.
BR
I’m voting on questions for the town hall debate here — everyone should do it. Lots of crazy questions with premises like “how will you stop the UN from taking over” and such. We need many many more sane questions and votes otherwise the town hall is going to be nuts.
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I’ve got some initial analysis results, and thanks to this you score very high and very uniquely high for saying “not all cops”.
(I had to look it up because that result just didn’t sound like something somebody would have typed, but there it is!)
BR
@BR:
Oh god, I think I just saw a question about Ameros. Seriously, we need people to vote for questions for the town hall debate.
Mike E
@Iowa Old Lady: I larfed too…Weekend Update was an anti Hillary haranguing, so, balance & both sides!
patroclus
@BR: I think they should ask Trump to explain in detail the significant portions of Article XII of the U.S. Constitution and what he would specifically do to preserve, protect and defend Article XII.
Mike E
@Chyron HR: they were flaking, natch
raven
@redshirt: It’s Colombia
BR
@patroclus:
Well you should post that question and then post the link to it here so we can vote it up.
BR
@BR:
Now I’m seeing questions about sharia law.
redshirt
@raven: Marching powder?
AliceBlue
@BR:
I got that email too, not long after I read a tidbit about the Clinton campaign raising a record $154 million last month. Count me confused as well.
Chyron HR
@Mike E:
“Flaking”? Fuck, I don’t even know what vaping is yet and now there’s FLAKING?
raven
@redshirt:
redshirt
@raven: Oh, got you. My mistake.
lollipopguild
@Chyron HR: When Senator Flake from Arizona attacks Trump it is called Flaking.
raven
@redshirt: I only know it because I wrote it wrong to my Colombian friend and she set me straight.
lollipopguild
@lollipopguild: Also Get Flaked-Go Flake yourself- Its time to make like a coat of paint and Flake Off. All of these can be said to Trump.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
He really is a self-satisfied toad. He makes no effort to be even vaguely fair.
BR
Most creative town hall question I’ve seen:
Joyce H
Re lack of bumper stickers and yard signs, I don’t think that’s an indicator this year. Remember that the Trump campaign has a serious deficit in field offices, and one thing that field offices do is distribute that stuff.
When I drove into Fredericksburg recently, I saw a Trump yard sign on the way.
Just the one. And it was homemade.
redshirt
@raven: I should have known.
In other news, I find myself rooting for Pittsburgh tonight for Fantasy purposes. I don’t like it.
Major Major Major Major
@BR: I don’t know about ‘creative’, but that’s certainly a series of words!
TriassicSands
Can you imagine if Clinton’s stump “speech” was anything like Trump’s.
Clinton: (After 90 seconds of scripted delivery she suddenly heads off on a free-wheeling discussion of Trump’s sex life.) “A lot of people are saying that Donald made weekly visits to the health department back in the 70s and 80s. It seems they had a standing order for STD tests. He may even have simply been getting weekly antibiotic shots, since with all the sex he was having the odds were good that sooner or later — probably sooner — he was going to catch something. I don’t know, but a lot of people are saying that. And it’s not hard to believe. ‘
Some people even think that his lack of impulse control and his rage-tweeting are a sign of tertiary syphilis eating away at his brain. Everyone agrees it’s a possibility. If so, we can’t really blame him for his behavior, but do we want him in the White House? I don’t think so.
And, have you seen the way he ogles and fondles Ivanka? Is that all that’s ever gone on? Has it always stopped there? Or has Donald crossed a line? Some people think so.
Donald doesn’t have any pets, but there are rumors that he tortured puppies when he was a teenager. Now, everyone knows that’s a sure sign of a future serial killer. So, we need to ask Donald, why no pets and what exactly did happen to little Muffy, the neighbors’ Pekinese?
And so on…
raven
@redshirt: I’m still trying to shake the Dawgs loss.
redshirt
@raven: Your Braves knocked the Tigers out of the playoffs. Thank you.
Van Buren
Went to a large-ish wedding this weekend, and lucky me, got to sit next to my Long Island Irish Catholic BIL. Think of Sean Hannity, only cockier and not so open minded. Was informed that only white people pay taxes. Closed my eyes and saw irony dying. As drinks flowed, it became clear that Hillary was a near unanimous choice in the room. Went to sleep content.
PS My niece was an awesome bride.
tybee
Chris
@Suzanne:
Ditto, although in my case, the fact that the year has been spent back in job-hunting mode with no success is surely contributing plenty to the overall gloom about this year.
The thing about our election particularly, though, is that win or lose, Trump has re-mainstreamed a kind of racism that’s more blatant and overt than people have dared to use at the presidential level in decades, and he really hasn’t lost a lot over it – in terms of popular support, the vast majority of Republican voters have stood by him. That means that even if he loses, the GOP will remain defined by his voters and his legacy.
So, yeah. Knock on wood, I’ll be relieved in November and he’ll lose. If not, well, as someone else said, bring on the meteor. But even if so, we’ll be fighting what he’s done for years to come.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: New analysis in! Two of your ‘statistically interesting’ phrases (methodology if you want it) are “and yet here we are” and “i love it” (you share the latter with Miss Bianca).
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: I love it!
geg6
If Facebook has it right, Assange has cancelled his major Hillary announcement scheduled for mid-week due to “security concerns” at the Equadoran embassy.
lollipopguild
@Van Buren: Only white people like the Clintons pay taxes, because it looks like Trumpenstein hasn’t paid taxes in years.
redshirt
@Chris: With each passing year there are more minority voters, and that will continue for ever as far as anyone can tell – until the minority is the majority. So let these crazy racists be crazy racists. As long as our side gets out and votes we can mute them and progress.
Omnes Omnibus
@geg6: Whether he is still securely ensconced there?
Omnes Omnibus
@Chris:
You know, that is exactly what the faux-progressive concern trolls want you to do. Don’t give them the satisfaction.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Your statistically interesting phrases are “what makes you think…” and “my guess is that…”
Felonius Monk
Donald Trump — America’s Most Famous Business
TycoonBuffoonOmnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: What makes you think that I care? My guess is that you were going to tell me anyway.
Baud
@geg6: They realized all the emails they were going to release said they were sent by “Hilary Clinton.” Gotta redo the whole batch.
Villago Delenda Est
@geg6: More like “dumbshit concerns”. The Ecuadorians should toss him out on the street and let whoever is waiting for him have their way with him.
Baud
Lebron James has come out in support of Hillary.
Villago Delenda Est
@Felonius Monk: Or as Thurston Howell III put it, “I’m a tycoon. A typhoon is just a big bag of wind.”
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Ha! The first time I read that I was like jeez, what did I do to earn this hostility?
You also apparently talk to @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) a lot.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: That locks up Ohio.
Villago Delenda Est
@Baud: Game over, man!
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: As if.
different-church-lady
@Baud:
Indeed, but if anyone wasn’t clear on Sirota before now it’s because they just weren’t paying attention.
different-church-lady
@geg6: Well, the translation from the original Russian is probably taking more time than he anticipated.
Jeffro
@Chyron HR: was over Springfield way, but you’re welcome! Give it a try sometime, voter reg really is an easy & fun way to pass a few hours.
@redshirt:
Ugh. They were killing my Chiefs 22-0 not even 20 minutes into the game. Looks like I picked a good night to turn in early! =(
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
@redshirt:
His op/ed.
ETA: It’s all pro-Hillary — nothing about Trump.
Uncle Cosmo
@Suzanne: Speaking of the year sucking, we just heard of another death in the family, one of my older cousins who played football for the Eers in the 50s. With my last uncle passing last spring & my nephew/godson “Skyler” last August, that’s three YTD with 3 months to go. (Four in the last 14 months if you count Mom the previous August.)
Corner Stone
@Omnes Omnibus: That seemed a little weird, IMO.
redshirt
@Baud: I don’t doubt Lebron; I doubt his support of Clinton will make that much difference in Ohio.
different-church-lady
@TriassicSands: You’d have to throw in something about why Broadway shows are so “unsatisfying”.
Baud
@redshirt: Don’t know. All we can do is pile on for the next month.
Villago Delenda Est
@Baud: Nothing but positive. This is good.
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@BR:
The leading questions, thankfully, are mostly sane, maybe just a little Purity-Lefty, which is fine. Hillary can explain her positions about fracking well if given the chance. That same question asks how to increase green energy, which Trump is against. He’ll look like a… actually, why am I assuming he will answer the questions at all? 50/50 he ignores them and goes off on deranged rants about Hillary’s fictitious infidelities.
@geg6:
It’s as if he never had one and was pulling a cliched conservative ‘Just you wait for my devastating comeback!’ tactic after all.
redshirt
@Baud: Great essay though, I especially liked his linking Clinton to Obama.
Baud
@Villago Delenda Est: It’s a refreshing change.
Suzanne
@Uncle Cosmo: Oh God, I’m sorry. We’ve had one death, and the next major surgery (prophylactic hysterectomy, not mine) is on Tuesday. One car wreck, one mental health crisis, one ex-husband not paying child support…..it goes on.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Mai.naem.mobile: I do deliveries around Skagit County Washington(hour or so north of Seattle) , and while I see the occasional Trump signs, I am beginning to see Stop Trump or No Trump Hate signs, I think there is an underground movement or the resistance to the AWM.s(Angry White Males) that does run up there.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: why would you even mention that? And I wasn’t going to drink tonight….
amk
@? Martin: hackperin has never been right. so your claim is kinda dubious.
Another Scott
@Hal: Well, that was different!
Cheers,
Scott.
Chris T.
@PhoenixRising: Also—note, I’m not a dog person, but I did go through some training for a shelter—the trick with city dogs is to go out front of the building, wait for the dog to do his or her business, and then go walk an empty dog. The reason is that to the dog, the walk is the best part, the big reward. This trains the dog to take care of the messy part first.
(It’s easier with poop than pee since the dogs like to use the latter for pee-mail: keeping up with neighborhood events.)
amk
@Baud: Yup. Stop normalizing racist criminals.
dogwood
@Baud:
Saw a picture of W’s daughter, Barbara with Huma A at a Hillary fundraiser. There are non- crazy things going on. Just have to believe and keep working for the next month.
Omnes Omnibus
L’shana Tova to all the Jewish Juicers.
Annie
@redshirt:
I love the wild card right now since it’s the only reason the Giants are in the playoffs.
But I’m also mourning that it was Vin Scully’s last game.
danielx
Annnd…..Trump taxes scoop will be well up there on list of voter concerns. Outguessing Halperin is about as much of a challenge as outguessing Bloody Bill Kristol.
Fun fact for the evening: I now know much a Cushman Colonial maple drop leaf table weighs, which is about two and half tons. Enough to put a hurtin’ on my knee, anyway.
KS in MA
@Trentrunner: From your mouth to Hillary’s ear!
amk
Omnes Omnibus
I am already annoyed by the VW Golf All Track ads.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Because it’s VW and they should be banned from the USA?
Mary G
@Annie:
@Annie: I have been mourning Vin’s departure, too. even wrote him a note via the LA Times. He doesn’t seem mortal.
liberal
@patroclus:
Yawn. I have no fondness for FARC, because whatever reason they had for their rebellion, they seem to be fighting just for the sake of fighting now, but your description leaves out all the people murdered by the paramilitaries.
There was another left-wing movement that gave up fighting and decided to work peacefully. (Forget the name.) It’s utterly amazing how many of them were subsequently killed in the ensuing years, despite having laid down weapons.
So all the self-righteousness about FARC escaping justice? The hypocrisy is stifling.
liberal
@TriassicSands: I really loved her talking about Trump seeming to want to hang around beauty pagents in the first debate, which nailed him for the perv he is.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: No, because it was replayed about 10 times during a single commercial break during the Sunday night football game.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: Why to you hate my car?
guachi
I’ve got a cheater TDI Golf Sportwagen that I will sell back within two years. If the All Track is nice I might look into it.
Not a fan of plastic body cladding but it might offer enough extra to be worthwhile. The Golf Sportwagen is a pretty awesome vehicle that’s not as dull and boring as a typical CUV while offering more cargo room than about 3/4 of the CUVs on the market.
Also, it has a fantastic interior for a non-luxury car.
geg6
@Omnes Omnibus:
You oughta be here in a battleground state. The two ads that I’ve seen 100 too many times are:
1) Pat Ptoomey’s anti-McGinty ad that says Katie MeGinty sold us all out to take a high paying job in an industry that got state and ax breaks after working as Chief of Staff for the governor. The salary? $125k per year. Yeah, I don’t really see that as out of bounds for a salary. Not when Ptooeymey’s worth millions made on Wall Street.
2) I never thought I’d say this because it’s a great and very effective ad, the Clinton “Mirrors” ad. This is simply because it seems to be one of every three ads. And one of the other two is one that highlights Hilz’s lifelong commitment to children and their issues. Trump is barely visible among ad buys, with more Club for Growth or some offshoot running more Trump ads than he is. Both Clinton ads are terrific, but I can’t watch them any more. I almost have the narration memorized, involuntarily.
geg6
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I was wondering the same of mine. I love my Jetta.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@geg6: I have a Jetta as well, though it’s ancient(1986).
ETA: I’ve had two cars, the other was a Bug.
Omnes Omnibus
@geg6: I am in Wisconsin. I just am in a media market that is not in doubt.
PPCLI
@Baud: Also I heard that the ghost of Art Modell came out for Trump.
geg6
@Omnes Omnibus:
Oh, that’s right. You’re in or around Madison, aren’t you? Pittsburgh will go for Hilz in a big way but the surrounding counties, including my own Beaver County, are all wingnut central.
redshirt
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Because it lies to the US Government.
Another Scott
@Baud: Attack of the Missing L Again!
Cheers,
Scott.
danielx
@geg6:
How does that saying go? Pittsburgh and Philadelphia with three hundred miles of Alabama between?
Omnes Omnibus
@liberal:
M19.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: My 1986 Jetta lies to the US Government?
Vhh
@geg6: Ecuador’s Prez is in Putin’s corner, and Assange’s body guards are allegedly FSB (formerly KGB). My guess is that with Trump sinking, Vlad may not want Wikileaks releasing bombs with Moscow fingerprints all over them. Also possible that BHO has made offers that Ecuador or Moscow dare not refuse.
Brachiator
@redshirt:
Possible. But while it is common for sports figures and other celebrities to be seen with candidates they support, it is rare to see a sports figure elaborate his or her reasons for supporting a candidate. Some may ignore this endorsement, others may not care, but some may pay attention.
Chris
@liberal:
Paramilitaries who, if I recall correctly, were responsible for the bulk of the crimes committed in the civil war; and the vast majority of whom also escaped justice after demobilization (although a few of the high-ups were at least extradited to the U.S). Lots of them currently continue on as petty gangsters and drug dealers, which in quite a few cases is what they were before, too. Uribe’s opposition to the FARC peace talks was slammed by a few people as hypocritical because he was quite happy to negotiate with the AUC and let them down easy.
I had my doubts about the peace process, first because of the precedent of left-wing guerrillas laying down their arms only to be murdered, and second because of how loud and strong Uribe’s movement has been in opposing the treaty. Sad that it should be the ballot box of all things that kills it.
(To be fair, though, the hypocrisy is Uribe’s and his peeps, not Patroclus’ – he raises a valid point about the fact that this would, indeed, involve letting a lot of trained killers walk, and as the AUC demobilization showed, that’s not the end of the story. It is, however, a common enough resolution in those kinds of civil wars, and is often viewed as the least bad option).
Chris
@Vhh:
Maybe Vlad the Impaler’s just having second thoughts, and deciding that Trump is such a dangerously unstable person that the risks of having him in charge of America outweigh even the benefits of his plunging NATO into turmoil.
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Still in hospital – Seemed to be responding a bit to the treatment but this morning my platelet count is back down to zero.
They’re moving on up the list to the next treatment option.