Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

In my day, never was longer.

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

They are not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Speaker Mike Johnson is a vile traitor to the House and the Constitution.

Sometimes the world just tells you your cat is here.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Republicans got rid of McCarthy. Democrats chose not to save him.

Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

These days, even the boring Republicans are nuts.

Is trump is trying to break black America over his knee? signs point to ‘yes’.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

If you cannot answer whether trump lost the 2020 election, you are unfit for office.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

The press swings at every pitch, we don’t have to.

They spent the last eight months firing professionals and replacing them with ideologues.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

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I’m Especially Joe Pesci Wit It

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These traitorous cocksuckers:

A business associate of President Trump promised in 2015 to engineer a real estate deal with the aid of the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, that he said would help Mr. Trump win the presidency.

The associate, Felix Sater, wrote a series of emails to Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, in which he boasted about his ties to Mr. Putin. He predicted that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would highlight Mr. Trump’s savvy negotiating skills and be a political boon to his candidacy.

“Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

I know you all talked about this before, but I just got home, and all I want to know is are any of these motherfuckers ever going to be perp walked and sent to fucking jai?

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  1. 1.

    Manyakitty

    I certainly fucking hope so. That long-awaited perp walk needs to be about 50 people long.

  3. 3.

    Mart

    There will be pardons the likes of which the world has never seen before… Believe me. Believe me.

  6. 6.

    Cheryl Rofer

    @Major Major Major Major: Must have been Adam. I haven’t drawn conclusions yet. Sater may be helping the FBI, as he was years ago. But then who is leaking all that juicy information?

    In answer to Cole’s question, I have no idea when or if we will see the perp walk. And btw, North Korea sent a missile over Japan today. Very provocative. Evidently Tillerson’s pat on the head last week and Pence’s look of resolve across the DMZ did not achieve their goals.

  7. 7.

    Gvg

    Why would any American think building something in Russia would HELP win the Presidency?
    Sater sounds stupider than Trump. And what kind of fool boasts of this.

  8. 8.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Gvg: Putin would presumably benefit financially in the deal and so would be inclined to use the power of the Russian state to aid Trump. Not that far fetched honestly.

    ETA: Sater never dreamed this email would see the light of day

  11. 11.

    The Moar You Know

    Also voting no. We just don’t hold the rich and powerful accountable for their crimes in this country.

  13. 13.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I know you all talked about this before, but I just got home, and all I want to know is are any of these motherfuckers ever going to be perp walked and sent to fucking jai?

    I gather there is no specific statute that would outlaw collusion, unless they (we, the People, represented by Meuller) can demonstrate that they actively sought “something of value” from a foreign power? Junior obviously did this, though it might be hard to get past a jury– by which I mean it would be easy to bamboozle jurors, not that the case isn’t clear. Trump is, to my eyes, quite obviously guilty of obstruction of justice, but that only matters if enough Republicans want it to. Tax evasion? criminal fraud? money laundering? conspiracy?

    FWIW, I don’t for a moment believe Fredo, Jared and the other goon met with that Russian lawyer without the Beast knowing about it, but he famously doesn’t email, so that might be hard to prove

  14. 14.

    Kirk

    Until out of office, whether by losing an election or impeachment or (goo help us) ending his second term and no longer eligible, Trump will not be perp walked.

    And depending on the mechanism and shenanigans at the time there’s no guarantee at impeachment (Ford, Nixon).

  15. 15.

    Baud

    The associate, Felix Sater, wrote a series of emails to Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen,

    If only those emails were on Hillary’s servers….

  17. 17.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Kirk:
    I don’t like to do doom and gloom but: you’re also assuming the GOP Congress wouldn’t try to pass an amendment to repeal the 22nd amendment so Trump can run for a third term. I don’t think that would pass though.

  18. 18.

    Another Scott

    Reuters: DPRK fires missile over Japan:

    South Korea’s military said the missile was launched from the Sunan region near the North Korean capital just before 6 a.m. (2100 GMT Monday) and flew 2,700 km (1,680 miles), reaching an altitude of about 550 km (340 miles).

    Japanese public broadcaster NHK reported the missile broke into three pieces and fell into waters off Hokkaido.

    The Japanese military did not attempt to shoot down the missile, which passed over Japanese territory around 6:07 a.m. local time (2107 GMT).

    In Washington, the Pentagon confirmed the missile flew over Japan but did not pose a threat to North America and said it was gathering further information.

    ( Insert attempted snark here. )

    (sigh)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  19. 19.

    Nelle

    If they did, Obama could run again. Not that he would if he has an ounce of sanity.

    I was talking to a friend who was state budget director before Brownback came and wrecked the place. I asked why he wouldn’t run for governor next (against Kobach). Then I laughed and said, “It would be cleaning up after an elephant parade, wouldn’t it?”

  22. 22.

    schrodingers_cat

    So fucking tired of this negativity all the damn time. Every thread is a variation of let’s do some navel gazing about how WASF.

    ETA: I wonder whether Rs did the same when Obama won the Presidency and Dems had both the House and Senate at the beginning of Obama’s first. Hey guys WASF let’s just give up and count the ways WASF.

  24. 24.

    jl

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Come on, guys, you can be perp walked and sent to jail AND then released and not charged be preemptively pardoned for whatever it is, something something, fill in the blank, that you need to be pardoned for. Stop being so pessimistic.

  25. 25.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @Cheryl Rofer: The story a week or so back that in which Sater stated he expects to be “big news” in the next 30 days, plus another saying he told someone that he and Trump were definitely gonna spend time in prison was interesting. Combine that with his history of cooperation with the FBI and things might get kinda spicy pretty soon…

  26. 26.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Kirk:

    Until out of office, whether by losing an election or impeachment or (goo help us) ending his second term and no longer eligible, Trump will not be perp walked.

    If Trump manages to get a second term, I predict the entire concept of “no longer eligible” will be part of the Constitutional rubble he creates. The only thing we would have going for us is his age and health.

  27. 27.

    burnspbesq

    I can make an argument for Mueller to snatch Sater on a material-witness warrant and hold him until he’s done getting information out of him. Dude has quite a bullseye on his back.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    @schrodingers_cat: People are just practicing for when the Dems control everything again and raise the tax rate to 50% and not 51 1/2%, thus proving they are in the pocket of Wall Street and need to be taught a lesson.

  30. 30.

    jharp

    “These traitorous cocksuckers:”

    Nothing wrong with being a cocksucker.

    Not my thing but in my life I’ve been very fond of many cocksuckers.

    Thus I don’t use the term in a derogatory manner any more.

  33. 33.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Dave:
    I said it was unlikely to pass. If the GOP thought they could get away with it they would. I don’t think they can.

  35. 35.

    MJS

    @schrodingers_cat: Seconded. If this blog had been around in Nixon’s time, everyone would be saying, in January. 1973, “Forget it. It’s over. Nixon will declare martial law and rule forever.” It took over two years, from break-in to resignation. It’s been how many months since Mueller was appointed?

  37. 37.

    Dave

    @Major Major Major Major: Though I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump’s the type to last forever. Not in a healthy lively 92 year old way but in the dementia zero quality of live but just won’t die manner. Either way Goku is a disaster/violence fetishist and refuses to own it; it’s grating now.

  38. 38.

    Lapassionara

    @schrodingers_cat: Then, let’s take my perspective, which is that of a person whose earliest memory was of the end of WWII, and the holocaust. We are living in an historic era, in which the fate of the nation hangs in the balance. Every day we survive to fight again is a win. Take courage, think of what you can do to make a difference, and do it.

  39. 39.

    Major Major Major Major

    @MJS:

    If this blog had been around in Nixon’s time, everyone would be saying, in January. 1973, “Forget it. It’s over. Nixon will declare martial law and rule forever.”

    Well I don’t know about everyone. Some of us would probably be wondering how the blog works.

  42. 42.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Dave: Oh for fuck’s sake. Here, once again:

    I said it was unlikely to pass. If the GOP thought they could get away with it they would. I don’t think they can.

    My point was, some in the GOP, the far right, Trump, and his demented base would love to repeal the 22nd amendment so Trump could Make America Great Again forever. I don’t think it will actually happen. I wasn’t 100% serious when I said it.

  45. 45.

    Aleta

    Their ilk operates by tying the source of their problem up in court (or worse) until hell’s climate changes. So they’ll try to make this stretch way past exhaustion and indifference.

  47. 47.

    Dave

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Fine. The reason you receive this reaction though is that most things you post are either we are screwed and here’s an incredibly unlikely scenario of how or lurid descriptions of violence that come off as longing. And hey I’m not really about thought crime and I’m mostly a lurker but the unspoken desire for violence that is in many of your posts is a red flag for me. There are usually two groups that view violence that way. Those that haven’t experienced it and so romanticize it to a degree or the smaller group that has and loves it…. And yes this is overly simple thats why I included the slightly weasely usually.

  52. 52.

    Peale

    @schrodingers_cat: by this time in Obama’s administration, republicans had convinced themselves that nothing was their fault and that they had nothing to apologize for. We had won in Iraq and everything after that was Obama giving away our victory to his radical Muslim friends during his apology tour. The financial crisis was the fault of banks being forced to lend to black people by Barney Frank and Carter ending redlining and had nothing to do with GOP regulators or white republicans. Hence the tea party started as a protest by Rick Santorelli when rumors started that Obama was looking for ways to bail out homewners, which was just another giveaway to black people. They spent their time coming up with ways to discredit Democrats, unlike Democrats who are still forcing themselves to find ways to attack each other daily.

  53. 53.

    Steve in the ATL

    @schrodingers_cat: when the court system fails, sometimes street justice steps in to correct it–a guilty party getting shot and killed after acquittal. “Brass” refers to the brass casing of a bullet.

  54. 54.

    jl

    @Baud:

    ” Or too high to care. ”
    I think that is a promising approach for the future Baud administration after the shit hits the fan.

  56. 56.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Dave: Well I can tell you right now I don’t romanticize violence and I’ve never been in a fight in my life. As for the unlikely scenarios of how we’re screwed I guess I may not have the best of political instincts or predictive abilities. I don’t think most of my posts are about violence or doom and gloom. Usually it’s just me expressing contempt for Trumpworld, snarking, or other less weighty stuff.

    I guess my longing for justice in a worst case scenario can be mistaken for a desire for violence for its own sake.

  57. 57.

    jl

    Also an ad on this here almost top 10,000 blog led me to some site that had the most disliked food of each of all 50, of these, our great, United States.

    Said that tofu was the most disliked food in West By God Virginny.

    I for one would like Cole to address that issue.

  59. 59.

    Dave

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: To be fair I probably am engaging in some confirmation bias and I suspect that when I’ve have seen you doing that it’s been in threads where Tengphule is active. They tend to do that and I think that increases the likelihood that you do it. It’s also entirely possible that their posting is so filled with violence and doom that they color my impression of threads that they’ve participated in and it doesn’t change your posts a all but just my perception of them.

  60. 60.

    rikyrah

    Mueller Looks at Trump Role In Hiding Purpose of Don Jr. Meeting
    August 28, 2017 at 6:48 pm EDT

    Federal investigators working for special counsel Robert Mueller are keenly focused on President Trump’s role in crafting a response to a published article about a meeting between Russians and his son Donald Jr., three sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

    The sources told NBC News that prosecutors want to know what Trump knew about the meeting and whether he sought to conceal its purpose.

    At the time, the White House confirmed that Trump had ‘weighed in’ as the response to the New York Times report was drafted aboard Air Force One on July 8 as the president returned to the U.S. from Germany. the Washington Post reported that Trump had ‘dictated’ the response.

    nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-team-asking-if-trump-tried-hide-purpose-trump-tower-n796746

  61. 61.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Dave:
    I have to admit in the past I was more prone to talking like that during the healthcare crap last month. I viscerally hated that Trump and Congressional R’s were trying to blowup healthcare for practically everyone. I considered it then and I still do, to amount to attempted mass murder. In a weird way, wishing harm on them made me feel better when I felt powerless. That some kind of justice would prevail.

  62. 62.

    rikyrah

    YvonneWingettSanchez‏Verified account @yvonnewingett

    NEW Arpaio’s team will put out statement asking media to stop saying he is racist; he’s been distressed by mischaracterization of reports
    2:07 PM – 28 Aug 2017

    yeah…this….

    Sherrilyn Ifill ✔ @Sifill_LDF

    What is this thing w/enthusiastically engaging in racial discrimination, but getting your feelings hurt when you’re called a racist?

  63. 63.

    rikyrah

    uh huh
    uh huh

    Qasim Rashid, Esq.

    ✔
    @MuslimIQ

    3 different Houston mosques & 100+ members of @MuslimYouthUSA are out & serving Houstonians while Joel Osteen’s $50M megachurch sits closed.

  64. 64.

    Gravenstone

    I’ve moved well past wanting them imprisoned. Dancing from the gallows pole – every whoreson of them. Treason demands nothing less.

  65. 65.

    rikyrah

    Kyle Griffin‏Verified account @kylegriffin1

    GOP Rep. Ron DeSantis is pushing an amendment to stop funding Mueller’s probe 6 months after the amendment passes.

  67. 67.

    Gin & Tonic

    @rikyrah: Maybe if enough people say it, “Joe Arpaio, racist” can be a trending term, like George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina.

  69. 69.

    jl

    @rikyrah:

    ” NEW Arpaio’s team will put out statement asking media to stop saying he is racist; he’s been distressed by mischaracterization of reports ”

    OTOH, nice to know that if Arpaio is not a racist, then he is willing to send out goon squads to round up random groups of people and throw them into concentration camps, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, national origin, political affiliation, or anything else.

    So maybe Arpaio should be called something else. Maybe he won’t mind ‘fascist’ so much.
    Arpaio himself called his holding centers concentration camps, so he shouldn’t be angry about anyone mentioning that.

  70. 70.

    rikyrah

    TheAverageBlackMan™‏ @TheAvgBlackMan

    Does it surprise me Joel Olsteen won’t help displaced flood victims??
    NO…he’s a Trump supporter

  71. 71.

    rikyrah

    uh huh

    The Secretary of Exxon at work

    Tillerson Moves to Cut Special Envoys including Representative for Climate Change
    August 28, 2017 at 4:01 pm EDT

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson “is moving to eliminate or downgrade special envoy positions at the State Department, including the representative for climate change, a step that is sure to ignite vociferous opposition from some members of Congress,” CNN reports.

    In a letter obtained by CNN and written to Senator Bob Corker, the Tennessee Republican who heads the foreign relations committee, Tillerson said he would end or transfer as many as three dozen special envoy positions.

    “I believe that the Department will be able to better execute its mission by integrating certain envoys and special representative offices within the regional and functional bureaus,” Tillerson wrote Corker, “and eliminating those that have accomplished or outlived their original purpose.”

    Tillerson aide: Constitution, not Trump, ‘speaks for the country’
    Special envoys for Syria, Sudan and South Sudan, and the Arctic will be eliminated.

    cnn.com/2017/08/28/politics/tillerson-state-dept-envoys/index.html

  72. 72.

    rikyrah

    What’s most offensive about Dolt45?

    It’s his stupidity. That rubs me the wrong way.

    The stupidity offends me more, because we know ANYONE non-White who was this stupid would be clowned off the global stage.
    The curve for unqualified White Men is REAL

  73. 73.

    rikyrah

    David Catanese‏Verified account @davecatanese

    Trump on why he pardoned Arpaio Friday night during #Harvey “I assumed the ratings would be far higher than they were normally.”
    1:42 PM – 28 Aug 2017

  75. 75.

    Kay

    @rikyrah:

    NEW Arpaio’s team will put out statement asking media to stop saying he is racist; he’s been distressed by mischaracterization of reports

    Guffaw. The humble public servant who just wants to retire with dignity has a “team”. To do what? He doesn’t even have a job. How many people are on this team and how does he pay them? With the online solicitations he’s making?

    His fans deserve to get robbed.

  76. 76.

    rikyrah

    Facial Merkin‏ @facialmerkin

    Asked Joel Osteen why he won’t open his megachurch to Harvey victims he blocked me. Church reaps $77M tax free annually #HoustonStrong

  79. 79.

    Emperor of ice cream

    @Peale: So much this. We don’t do opposition nearly as effectively despite the fact that all we have to do is tell the truth. But if a tree falls in the forest and there is no media to report it…

  80. 80.

    Kay

    Arpaio thought his reputation would IMPROVE when Trump pardoned him and the whole country found out about his absolutely appalling career. He thought it would get BETTER, like a Trump pardon makes his offenses disappear.

    You still did all those things, moron, and now everyone in the country knows about them. The only thing that’s changed is you aren’t going to do time- you can still be loathed and despised and your name will always mean “racist”.

    That’s what I love most about these people. They say they’re “in your face” assholes who enjoy being horrible but it isn’t true. They whine CONSTANTLY that they have horrible reputations and people say mean things about them.

    They want to be absolute assholes and ALSO be loved. It’s not enough that Arpaio is a sadist who actually killed people who were in his custody- we’re supposed to love him for it.

  81. 81.

    sukabi

    @Baud: now Baud, if they were on Hillary’s servers we wouldn’t know about them…if they were on the DNCs servers Assange would have released them if they only implicated Hillary.

  82. 82.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Emperor of ice cream: Having to tell the truth is a handicap. It’s why we attack each other–we can’t just pretend everyone is always on the same side, and we’re worried about everyone being honest. Lies usually beat truth in a head-to-head fight, because they can be far more appealing and easy to understand. Lies always tell you who the bad guy is.

    The only advantage truth gives us is that we’re less often bitten by reality. But that’s an advantage that only matters after you win. We can’t win until lie-based government causes massive catastrophe, with huge collateral costs.

  84. 84.

    mskitty

    Prob Trump expected Arpaio’s pardon to slide under the Harvey news – but instead, zillions more people were online looking for hurricane news or to connect with people in harm’s way and the biggest piece of news up – un-missable – was The Pardon. Probably MORE people saw it because it came down of Harvey’s Friday night.

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