Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

Battle won, war still ongoing.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

In my day, never was longer.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Republicans in disarray!

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

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DC March of the Juggalos – No, Srsly

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The Hill is… game:

Fans of the hip-hop group Insane Clown Posse descended on Washington, D.C., on Saturday for a “Juggalo March” to protest the FBI classifying them as a gang.

The fans, nicknamed Juggalos, are holding a march and concert on the National Mall to protest a 2011 FBI report that classified fans of the group as a “loosely-organized hybrid gang.”

The march’s website includes personal tales of fans being fired from their jobs, stopped and detained by police and losing custody battles for being Juggalos, wearing band merchandise or having the band’s trademark “hatchet man” tattoo, a silhouette of a man wielding an axe…

Daniel Dale, ace reporter for the Toronto Star, seems to be having the time of his life…



(NSFW, naturally)

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  4. 4.

    Lapassionara

    I am so out of touch. I don’t think I have ever heard one of this group’s songs. Looks like they outnumber the Trump marchers, which is good.

  6. 6.

    efgoldman

    It’s too bad the Juggalos chose today. It makes it much easier for the Broderist both siders to avoid mocking the “massive”, pathetic Henna Hairball supporters rally.

  11. 11.

    MomSense

    @Mel:

    That is such a great shelter. They have a German shepherd/great pyrennees puppy, Maria, that I have fallen in love with.

  12. 12.

    Doug R

    Do you know what Dolly Parton looks like today? I’m sure Jennifer Grey looks different too. Apparently this is more important than any discussion we could have.

    Now I wasn’t sure about anything involving white people in black clothes (for the greater good, anyone?) their whoop whoop at the removal of Confederate participation statues makes me think they’ll be alright.

  13. 13.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    I can see why people join the Juggalos – they just have a magnetic appeal.

  14. 14.

    Major Major Major Major

    Well, you know what, good for them.

    Today I finally sat down and made a proper drawing of the blueprints for the main character’s house in my comic. I was sick of having to rotate all those imaginary objects in my head while picking camera angles. dunno why I didn’t do it sooner. I guess I didn’t know what all I needed in the place until I’d been going for a bit.

  15. 15.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Doug R:

    Do you know what Dolly Parton looks like today? I’m sure Jennifer Grey looks different too.

    Looks, schmooks. Do you have any idea what Melania’s IQ is? Your jaw will drop!

  18. 18.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Until recently, the Portland (OR) Police had a “gang database” that conveniently excluded white supremacist gang members, because, well, not blah or Latino, natch.

  23. 23.

    Mnemosyne

    Back from my writing retreat, which was amazing and SO worth it in terms of both time and money. I’m currently watching my car get dried after it got washed — I managed to park under a particularly sappy tree at Lake Arrowhead and my car was kind of a disaster.

  31. 31.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Has anyone clicked on that particular tease? I can’t imagine Melania’s IQ being much north of 100. She doesn’t seem dense but doesn’t appear intellectually curious either.

  32. 32.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Raven:

    it’s almost 90 up here!

    Wow! Hope you’re having fun in spite of the mid-September heat!

    I leave for northern Michigan in a couple of days.

  35. 35.

    Raven

    Wagstaff: And let that be a lesson to every one of you! This school was here before you came, and it’ll be here before you go. (Knocking a human skull off the desk.) And you too, you numbskull! (Baravelli and Pinky race back in, this time molesting the same girl before taking their seats. Wagstaff pulls down a screen showing an anatomical view of a man). Let us follow a corpuscle on its journey. (Puts on his cap, grabs his briefcase, and starts to leave. Stops suddenly.) Oh, my mistake, I thought I was a corpuscle. As you know, there is constant warfare between the red and white corpuscles. Now then, baboons, what is a corpuscle?

    Baravelli: That’s easy! First isa captain, then isa lieutenant, then isa corpuscle.

    Wagstaff: That’s fine. Why don’t you bore a hole in yourself and let the sap run out? (Gesturing to screen.) We now find ourselves among the Alps. The Alps are a very simple people, living on a diet of rice and old shoes. Beyond the Alps lies more Alps. And The Lord Alps those that Alps themselves. We then come to the bloodstream. The blood rushes from the head, down to the feet…gets a look at those feet, and rushes back to the head again. This is known as auction pinochle. (Dashes to take a bite of apple. While his back is turned, Pinky pulls down a screen in front of the anatomical view. This screen shows a horse.) Now in studying your basic metabolism, we first listen to your heart speed. And if your hearts beat anything but diamonds and clubs, it’s because your partner is cheating…or your wife. Now, ah, now take this point for instance. (Points to horse’s rear end.) That reminds me. I haven’t seen my son all day. Well, the human body takes many strange forms. (Goes back to the first screen and points to it.) Now, here is a most unusual organ. The organ will play a solo immediately after the feature picture. (Goes back to the apple and Pinky hangs a scantily-clad pinup over the screen.) Scientists make these deductions by examining a rat, or you landlord who won’t cut the rent, and what do they find? Asparagus. (Goes back to screen, pointing to pinup.) Now, on closer examination…Hmm, this needs closer examination. In fact, it needs a nightgown. Baravelli! Who’s responsible for this? Is this your picture?

  37. 37.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @rikyrah: I have no idea who these people are ?

    I am vaguely aware that they are related to the Insane Clown Posse, who I gather are some sort of musical group, sort of a latter day Kiss, or is it KISS?

  39. 39.

    Raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: The school tour exceeded any expectations I had. You would love the music facility. I was pretty shot after the two hours so I’ve been napping and watching football until the reunion. Since I know I won’t sleep I have a 7am flight, I’ll leave here at 4:30am.

  45. 45.

    HeleninEire

    @Doug R: Dolly Parton’s father could not read. She started a nonprofit that delivered books to underprivileged children. This year her nonprofit hit 92 million books. NINETY TWO MILLION.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    Good news if true. (WSJ)

    NEW YORK—Trump administration officials said Saturday the U.S. wouldn’t pull out of the Paris Agreement, offering to re-engage in the international deal to fight climate change, according to the European Union’s top energy official.

    The shift from President Donald Trump’s decision in June to withdraw to renegotiate the landmark accord or craft a new deal came during a meeting of more than 30 ministers led by Canada, China and the European Union in Montreal.

  49. 49.

    HeleninEire

    @Baud: And I don’t care even for a minute about the plastic surgery. If I were rich, I’d do it. Living in this world as a fat or not conventionally pretty woman is hard. Like harder than say Malania’s life. Until Donald got stupid.

  53. 53.

    HeleninEire

    @Baud: Yeah and her music and voice and song writing skills are very good. And I say that as a NOT country music fan.

  59. 59.

    Wapiti

    @Duane: I think the ICP is considered a gang because cops… they like things to be in categories. Group or people, with common tattoos – must be a gang.

    I used to run with a group called the Hash House Harriers. They called themselves “a drinking group with a running problem”. Their runs were basically a game of hares and hounds, where the fast runners (the hares) would get a head start and leave a trail, typically a sawdust/flour mixture, for the other runners (hounds, or harriers) to follow. The trail always ended someplace where they could have some beers. After 9-11 somebody spotted a pile of white powder from the trail marks and called 911. Cops freaked out, despite explanations; probably because the explanation did not fit their categories.

  61. 61.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @HeleninEire:

    Dolly Parton’s father could not read. She started a nonprofit that delivered books to underprivileged children. This year her nonprofit hit 92 million books. NINETY TWO MILLION.

    That is amazing and awesome. What a gift.

    @Baud:

    I’ve always liked her.

    I used to have a very snobbish attitude against country music and country singers. It’s still not my favorite genre, but it was Dolly Parton whose songs made me realize that there were some great tunes and lyrics. From her to Johnny Cash and lots of others…. Still, as I say, not a genre I’m entirely comfortable with, but I recognize the appeal. And I completely admire Dolly for her literacy activism.

    Yeah, I may be 75 years old, but I’m willing to open my mind to cultural influences I previously scorned.

  64. 64.

    Barbara

    @Baud: Normally I would like to say that it’s good news, but I fear it might be something more like dementia, or maybe until the next phone call with Bannon.

  65. 65.

    schrodingers_cat

    AIB’s parody of a popular Hindi movie song about how women are treated in the Hindi film industry is awesome. Actually, even though the particulars differ, the double standards for women are alive and well in most walks of life, everywhere in the world as the elections in 2016 and even reaction to HRC’s book has shown. The refrain is, coz I have a [email protected] re
    The on screen diva is played by Kangana Ranaut.’
    ETA: Click the CC icon for an English translation.

  67. 67.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    Yes, good news if true, but for fuck’s sake, how is the rest of the world supposed to react to and deal with a United States that changes its stance on global issues every five minutes, or every three months?

    Ella asks the question.

  68. 68.

    HeleninEire

    @SiubhanDuinne: @Baud: LOL. Both of you gorgeous people. Back in Dublin. Home from Galway. When I went to NYC in Feb I told everyone I’d be back in Oct. I’m not feeling it. This is home now.

  72. 72.

    Wapiti

    @JCJ: That song is pretty tame – almost uplifting. Except that they speak like normal people. Well, people who are sailors.

  74. 74.

    germy

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    The White House pushed back on Saturday against reports in the Wall Street Journal and Agence France Presse (AFP) that President Donald Trump has decided not to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris Climate Accord, the Hill said.

    “There has been no change in the United States’ position on the Paris agreement. As the President has made abundantly clear, the United States is withdrawing unless we can re-enter on terms that are more favorable to our country,” said an afternoon statement from White House Deputy Press Secretary Lindsay Walters.

    The administration was responding to an announcement by the European Union’s chief climate officer Miguel Arias Canete, who said at a summit in Canada that he’d received word from a Trump administration official that Trump is softening his stance on withdrawing the U.S. from the accord into it can be re-negotiated.

  76. 76.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @HeleninEire:

    There is a little-known, but really wonderful, opera called Opéra d’Aran, by the French pop singer/composer Gilbert Bécaud, which has a lovely, haunting, traditional-sounding song sung by an old, I think blind, harpist at a pivotal moment in the plot. It has a repeating chorus “At the ball of Galway/In the Bay of Galway.”

    I’ll try to track it down on YouTube and post a link. This opera should be much better known. Should be part of the standard repertoire, in fact. It is amazing.

  77. 77.

    SFAW

    So I hear thew REAL rally — not that gang-member thing — had something like 150,000 attendees (plus-or-minus three orders of magnitude). I bet Lying Littledick was pleased as all get-out that HIS rally was yuuuuuger than the Juggalo Fest. And it DEFINITELY had more people show up than That Black Guy from Kenya’s Mother of All Rallies, right?

    One wonders if there’s yet another Littledick tweetstorm on the horizon.

  85. 85.

    Lurking Canadian

    @Baud: If I remember my schoolboy philosophy classes correctly, the illustrative example used to support Kant’s categorical imperative was “If everybody felt free to lie, it would eventually become impossible to lie, because nobody would believe anybody, ever.”

    Trump seems to be the existence proof that Kant was on to something.

  87. 87.

    Roger Moore

    @Mnemosyne:
    I was not impressed by Portland the last time I visited. We went through a neighborhood in Northeast Portland where the city had allowed the streets to fall apart to the point they were effectively unpaved. If you crossed a major street into the next neighborhood, they went back to being fine. I can’t say for sure, but it definitely give the impression that the government doesn’t think the residents of the area deserve the same level of city services everyone else gets.

  90. 90.

    SFAW

    @Baud:

    Where did you hear that? I heard it was small.

    A) But Lying Littledick himself said that he is yuuuuuge! The biggest! John C. Holmes would be NOTHING compared to … oh, you meant the rally?

    in that case

    B) Re-read my first line, especially the “plus-or-minus” part

    [And, in case it’s not a term you’re familiar with: an “order of magnitude” means a factor of ten. So 15,000 is an order of magnitude smaller than 150,000. Sincere apologies if you already know all this.]

  93. 93.

    Anne Laurie

    @Wapiti: Nah, ICP fans got targeted because the bluesuits consider them “trash”, and by cop standards “white trash” is barely a circle on the target beyond “uppity person of color”. In some ways, the Juggalos are even MOAR threatening to the cops, because a lot of the worst offenders have close relatives who are “white trash” — welfare-dependent, substance-abusing, dangerous-to-decency “trailer lifers” that constantly remind angry white LEOs that they’re one or two bad decisions away from the same awful fate.

    Besides, calling ICP groupies White Gangsters means they’re totally *not* racist, even if they consider a Black reporter with a camera more dangerous than a mob of rage-addled “Oaf Keepers” with guns. Remember: It’s not the cops’ job to create disorder — it’s their job to preserve disorder!

  94. 94.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @HeleninEire:

    I first heard, and fell in love with, Opéra d’Aran in 1966. I adore the entire thing, but the Harper’s Song haunts me beyond reason.

  98. 98.

    rikyrah

    Here is the Maddow segment from last night.
    When she gets snarky, it can be funny.
    She was like…and here’s ANOTHER lie of the Vice-President.

    I know that Pence and Mother have House of Cards fantasies…
    but, he’s up to his eyeballs in lies that have Bobby Three Sticks’ interest.

    https://youtu.be/2J91YLjKvLI

  99. 99.

    debbie

    I don’t know if anyone here is familiar with Brandie Carlisle’s music, but she just released an album benefitting War Child UK of other artists singing her songs from her first album. Dolly Parton does a killer job on The Story, my favorite song in like a zillion years.

  100. 100.

    Luthe

    @debbie: Because they have a federal lawsuit going that was filed shortly after the FBI decision and they want the lawsuit to move forward.

  101. 101.

    ET

    Speaking of Trump clowns, what about Trump as a clown? I have been meaning to post about this here but I guess I was waiting for the weird confluence that led to this post.

    My cousin painted this and I saw it in person. It was terrifying! You are warned if you click on THIS.

    Told you so.

  102. 102.

    debbie

    @Luthe:

    After all this time, I guess I would too, but they should have done this while Obama was still in office. This administration won’t do squat, even if these guys are white.

  105. 105.

    SFAW

    @Baud:

    Gotcha. I should have recognized the snark.

    Well, since you’re working on your 2020 campaign 24/7, I expect you have other things to think about.

  108. 108.

    dr. luba

    I was a punk in my youth, but fell in love with Dolly Parton’s music back when your choices were vinyl, cassettes or 8 tracks. Patsy Cline got me interested in country music (my gateway drug), but the real deal, not the bad pop music that passes for it nowadays. Still love it……and jazz, and classical, and Afropop, and all sorts of other genres.

  110. 110.

    Amir Khalid

    @HeleninEire:
    Country Music Hall of Fame, class of 1999; Songwriters’ Hall of Fame, class of 2001. Just two of fifteen Halls of Fame that have inducted her, according to her Wikipedia bio. Dolly Parton is a legend of American music.

  111. 111.

    frosty

    @Baud: +/- three orders of magnitude from 150,000 = anywhere from 150 to 150 million. It’s a math trick ’cause generally +/- is within the same OM.

  114. 114.

    Marguerite Hill

    @HeleninEire: I have several of her foundation’s books, purchased at a local ministry’s consignment shop.

    One quote I’ve always liked about Dollie Parton (hope she actually said it), when questioned about the stereotype dumb blonde, she said, “I’m not dumb, and I’m not a blonde.”

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