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You are here: Home / Economics / Free Markets Solve Everything / Open Thread: Social Notes from the Wingnut Wurlitzer Incubator

Open Thread: Social Notes from the Wingnut Wurlitzer Incubator

by Anne Laurie|  October 19, 20177:41 pm| 93 Comments

This post is in: Free Markets Solve Everything, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Assholes, Clown car

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Welp. J.D Vance has been meeting with Steve Bannon. https://t.co/EmORu94tCU pic.twitter.com/UXSXyWTwdy

— elizabeth batte ?? (@elizabethcatte) October 18, 2017

Former principal at Peter Theil's VC shop bonding w former Goldman guy clearly a case of politics driven by economic insecurity https://t.co/oehlSueGYt

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 18, 2017

Can’t be a good sign when your dream candidate would rather play footsie with Steve “Chaotic Evil, Only Less Competent” Bannon. Marc Short’s a tool (and not a sharp one); any locals want to tell us more about Tom Ricketts? From the Chicago Tribune:

The Heritage Foundation has narrowed its search for a new president down to a shortlist of finalists, a group that includes Todd Ricketts, a co-owner of the Chicago Cubs, and Marc Short, a senior Trump White House official, according to three people familiar with the discussions.

The conservative think tank’s trustees, however, remain torn over their decision. Kay Coles James – a Heritage board member who served as the director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management under former president George W. Bush and is close to Heritage founder Edwin Feulner – has been mentioned by several associates as someone who could serve in a temporary capacity if the board cannot settle on a candidate…

Heritage’s board includes many wealthy right-wing figures, including Steve Forbes, Rebekah Mercer and Thomas Saunders.

The top job at the influential conservative outpost has been open since May, when Jim DeMint, the Republican firebrand and former South Carolina senator, was pushed out, though Fuelner has been serving as the interim president. The search process is still in flux, and it is not clear if the top candidates under consideration have officially been contacted by the Heritage board – or would even accept the position…

Trump selected Ricketts to serve as deputy commerce secretary, but in April he withdrew his nomination from consideration, citing an inability to untangle his financial holdings to the satisfaction of the Office of Government Ethics.

Ricketts’ father helped finance Future45, a super PAC that spent lavishly for Trump in the final weeks of the campaign, giving the group at least $1 million through the end of September, FEC filings show. Joe Ricketts and his wife, Marlene, also contributed nearly $344,000 to support Trump’s campaign and the Republican Party. The Ricketts’ financial support for Trump was a dramatic reversal from the primaries, when Joe and Marlene Ricketts gave more than $5.5 million to Our Principles PAC, a super PAC that ran a slew of hard-hitting ads against Trump.

Short, the director of legislative affairs at the White House, comes with strong conservative credentials, previously leading Freedom Partners, the political operation for billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, and before that working for Vice President Mike Pence when was a rising star on the right during his days in the U.S. House.

It is unclear if Short has expressed interest in the job, and he has not met with the Heritage board. But if selected – and if he were to accept – he would represent yet another high-profile departure from Trump’s administration, which has already faced a steady stream of turnover and shake-ups…

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  1. 1.

    germy

    October 19, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    Vance? Christ, not that asshole again.

    There was a time when he was all over our public radio stations. They couldn’t get enough of him.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    October 19, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    JD Vance was also shit all along.

  3. 3.

    p.a.

    October 19, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    IIRC Heritage was formed because AEI was not considered conservative (read: nuts) enough. AEI agreed with CW at the time that a US SST was a waste of money. Heritage was birthed as a strong supporter of an American SST. Hence Heritage’s motto: ‘Heritage Foundation: Wrong From Day 1’.

  4. 4.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    Obama LIVE on CSPAN now at rally for Ralph Northam

    President Obama on Democrats during midterms: “Y’all get a little sleepy. Y’all get complacent.”
    “we’re at our best, not when we push people down, but when we try to lift them up.” Crowd chants “yes we can!”

  5. 5.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    October 19, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    It’s funny how that’s been a recurring theme this year.

  6. 6.

    Boatboy_srq

    October 19, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    What does it say that I would rather get hit on by Harvey Weinstein than shmooze with any of the hate-filled, wizened prunes at Heritage?

  7. 7.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    I missed this news this afternoon

    @freedlander
    After all that, Sanders bows out of Women’s Convention
    https://twitter.com/freedlander/status/921114001513369601

  8. 8.

    germy

    October 19, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    “Inside Edition” just did a story about fake Renoir paintings at drumpf’s place.

    His biographer said he saw a painting, and drumpf said “It’s an original Renoir!” The writer replied “No it isn’t” and told him the name of the art museum the original was hanging in. “No, this is an original Renoir” drumpf insisted.

    Either he was bamboozled by a crooked art dealer, or he is purposely trying to pass off cheap copies in his home as the real thing. Either way he’s an idiot.

  9. 9.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    October 19, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    @lamh36:
    Mnem will love this. Still planning on boycotting?

  10. 10.

    Baud

    October 19, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    @lamh36: Good. It’s the right thing to do.

  11. 11.

    Corner Stone

    October 19, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @lamh36: Great. The damn fool should have stayed out of it from the beginning. Now we get to have a whole other round of flashpoints with the god damn BernieBros feeling the hurt in the bottom of their shorts.

  12. 12.

    germy

    October 19, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @lamh36: So he’s going to Puerto Rico instead. Presidential!

  13. 13.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Obama saying he’s related to Jefferson Davis…
    “You know he’s spinning in his grave on THAT.”

  14. 14.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    Obama “elections matter…voters matter…you can’t sit this one out…”

  15. 15.

    Davebo

    October 19, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    Frank Rich had Vance nailed all along.

  16. 16.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    Obama : “It’s great that you hashtag and meme, but I need you to VOTE.” #VAGov

  17. 17.

    dr. bloor

    October 19, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @germy: Beat me to it. I hope this “revelation” will persuade Gross and Ashbrook to stop giving him on-air hand jobs.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    October 19, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @lamh36: Like.

  19. 19.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    October 19, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @lamh36:

    Bernie didn’t like being demoted to just a speaker.

    Not surprised.

  20. 20.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    Obama: “With all of our flaws, our fate is in our hands. We decide. Not some king, some despot. It’s in our hands.” America goes forward.

  21. 21.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Feels great hearing…”Signed Sealed Delivered” after a political rally!

  22. 22.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @lamh36: BTW… The high school in MS that changed it’s name to BO High school, used to be named after Jefferson Davis!

  23. 23.

    Corner Stone

    October 19, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    Chris Hayes is very subtly dragging John Kelly in his intro. Will he bag his game? Let’s watch!

  24. 24.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    If you can def check out the rebroadcast of Obama’s rally speech in VA for Northam. It was classic Obama! Dinging Chump left and right, and NEVER mentioning Cheeto’s name!

    Ya already know…Cheeto gon be hot tweeting soon as he gets wind of it!

  25. 25.

    Boatboy_srq

    October 19, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @germy: Nouveau riche != connoisseur.

  26. 26.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    ICYMI: The line to get into the Northam rally to hear Obama speak!

    @VaughnHillyard
    I’ve seen some lines ahead of Trump rallies, but this one right now in Richmond for Obama’s first day back on the trail is (this is part of it)…
    https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/921114486706266113

  27. 27.

    germy

    October 19, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @Boatboy_srq: The Inside Edition segment ended with someone suggesting he should have picked a less famous painting to show off in his house.

  28. 28.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 19, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    @lamh36: that out to get under somebody’s bloated splotchy tan-in-a-bottle skin….

  29. 29.

    Ruckus

    October 19, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    Just have a sad note. A young guy I work with went home for lunch yesterday and then left home to go back to work. He never showed up, which is very much unlike him. All this morning everyone has been trying to find him to find out where he is. His mom had turned in a missing persons report. A few weeks ago he had a very strange bicycle accident and cut his leg very badly. He went to the doc the other day and the doc told him he has to be careful about clots. Yesterday his leg swelled up quite a bit but he didn’t get it checked out as best as I know. Friends found him dead in his truck, parked on the side of the road just after lunch today. There is a lot more to the story but suffice it to say that he was 27, a really good guy and it’s a bit tough at work right now and we closed early. We don’t know any specifics but a clot is the most likely. Damn.

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    October 19, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    @Baud: When I was on jury duty there was a guy that everybody took to and multiple people said “you should be the foreman”. His answer was that he wasn’t sure that would be the right thing to do because the jury was mostly female, and he encouraged us to select someone else.

    Surely by now it’s clear to Bernie that you shouldn’t want to president if you don’t have good sense and the ability to see further than the chair you’re sitting on.

  31. 31.

    Elizabelle

    October 19, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    @Davebo:

    No Sympathy for the Hillbilly
    Democrats need to stop trying to feel everyone’s pain, and hold on to their own anger.

    Gawd, that is brilliant. Thank you, Frank Rich. Will read it.

    @Ruckus: Oh, that’s a terrible story. How sad. My condolences.

    27? Heartbreaking.

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    October 19, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @germy: I nearly choked when read that Puerto Rico was his excuse! I feel certain that he’ll be feeding people and clearing brush and stuff like that. cough cough

  33. 33.

    Baud

    October 19, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    @Ruckus: I’m sorry.

  34. 34.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    Video:

    @BuzzFeedNews
    Obama tells Virginia crowd that he’s a very distant cousin of Confederate leader Jefferson Davis: “I’ll bet he’s spinning in his grave.”
    https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/921167036847403008

  35. 35.

    Ruckus

    October 19, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    It there any room left under there? It’s already stretched pretty thin.

  36. 36.

    WaterGirl

    October 19, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: well, shit. I should have know it was all about Bernie and not him coming to realize he had made a mistake. Asshole.

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    October 19, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    @lamh36: Yesterday afternoon, I showed up at Coliseum for tickets — they seemed to be gone. (Coliseum was distributing tix for the convention center.)

    Assembled a list with phones and emails for the 20+ other people also seeking tickets. Turned it in to the campaign office, and the young man seemed to take it very seriously. He made a long phone call outside, and was going to try to find a few more tickets. I didn’t put my own name on the list; more excited about the others getting in.

    Excited to have Obama in town.

    I hope he goes by Mama J’s. (Excellent soul restaurant. Kehinde Wiley stops in when in town.)

  38. 38.

    Ruckus

    October 19, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    ability to see further than the chair you’re sitting on.

    Difficult to see farther than that chair when your head and ass are in the same location.

  39. 39.

    Boatboy_srq

    October 19, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @germy: ROFLMAO

  40. 40.

    WaterGirl

    October 19, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @lamh36: I’m not seeing this on the schedule for repeat. sigh.

  41. 41.

    Elizabelle

    October 19, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    @Boatboy_srq: (1) you’re not Harvey’s type and (2) Harvey’s got a sense of humor. Maybe you can distract him with movie talk.

    Not to make light of his assaults. I wish some of the women had just whipped out an iPhone and photo’d the goods and occasion, for all to see.

  42. 42.

    WaterGirl

    October 19, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    @Ruckus: What an awful thing to have happen. Cheeto is still running around trying to destroy the world and a good guy 27-year old dies.

  43. 43.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    @caseytolan
    Cenk Uygur is considering a Senate run against Dianne Feinstein, according to an elected official who talked w/ him: http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/19/cenk-uygur-senate-california-young-turks-dianne-feinstein/ …

  44. 44.

    Fair Economist

    October 19, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @germy:

    So he’s going to Puerto Rico instead. Presidential!

    It kind of is, actually. Bernie could do a lot of good drawing attention there. He also has the opportunity to talk about how to handle the thorny Puerto Rico situation.

  45. 45.

    WaterGirl

    October 19, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @Ruckus: Hmm, how do you even sit in a chair when your head is up your ass?

  46. 46.

    Elizabelle

    October 19, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @WaterGirl: Here’s the link.

    C-Span. Obama’s speech tonight in Richmond for Ralph Northam, Justin Fairfax, and Mark Herring.

    Go, Virginia Democrats!

    ETA: Shoot! Looks like C-Span wants to charge for it.

  47. 47.

    Boatboy_srq

    October 19, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    @Elizabelle: If only the scandal had hit one year later, and the otherwise-talentless ingenue would be the prime suspect. “Cast me, or I post your tiny privates on Pinterest!”

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 19, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this guy works for a Canadian paper

    Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ ddale8 1h1 hour ago
    The fact that Kelly attacked someone for accurately conveying the hurt of a Gold Star family is really not making its way into the coverage.
    Nor is the fact that Kelly conclusively confirmed the president was lying when he said Rep. Wilson had fabricated his comments.

    I think this may seep out over the next few days, I’m seeing more people on twitter say “Wait, what?” about his allusion to the Khans

  49. 49.

    Corner Stone

    October 19, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    The Gov of PR has zero political future left. He is going to get torched if they ever hold an another election on the island.

  50. 50.

    Boatboy_srq

    October 19, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @WaterGirl: That’s such an attractive hat.

  51. 51.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 19, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    Yep, Vance was a pretty easy get for them, inevitable really.

  52. 52.

    Corner Stone

    October 19, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    Say what you will but I find Tony Romo quite delightful as a sports TV commentator.

  53. 53.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 19, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yep. We need a way for liberals/progressives to detect posers more easily. Assange. Kelly. Vance. There’s got to be signs indicating that certain folks don’t pass the smell test.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    October 19, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    Video:

    @Mikel_Jollett
    OBAMA: Here’s one thing I know, if you have to win a campaign by DIVIDING people, you won’t be able to GOVERN them. You won’t be able to unite them later, if that’s how you start..
    https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/921163298221019138

  55. 55.

    germy

    October 19, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    @lamh36: Buddy Roemer funds his media empire, maybe he’ll fund his campaign. I’m sure the RWNJs would love to see him run.

  56. 56.

    trollhattan

    October 19, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    Does James Comey have a Twitter account? Experts disagree, but it could be.

    Back in March, Ashley Feinberg published an incredible piece in Gizmodo titled “This Is Almost Certainly James Comey’s Twitter Account.” It all began with an inadvertent hint dropped by the former FBI Director.

    A welcome diversion from…all that other stuff.

  57. 57.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 19, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    @Corner Stone: Apparently Puerto Ricans are leaving the island in droves. I wouldn’t be surprised if its Governor doesn’t want that job for much longer. Not sure how it’s going to pay off all that debt.

  58. 58.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 19, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: I don’t think Vance was a poser, he just hadn’t realized/embraced what he really was yet (which is shit). It’s the same way the Bannonite shitlords turn men’s-rights-curious kids into Nazis.

  59. 59.

    Davebo

    October 19, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Kurt Schlicter admits he’s a racist

    I stood up for George W. Bush in the face of horrendous attacks and never questioned his motives even when he did things I didn’t necessarily agree with.
    He paid me back today by calling me a racist.
    George, you are Fredo to me.
    I don’t want to know you, or what you do.

  60. 60.

    Kathleen

    October 19, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    Stonekettle @Stonekettle

    Now? Do you all get it now?

    John Kelly and Mad Dog Matis ARE NOT GOING TO STOP TRUMP!

    They are accomplices, not victims.

    https://twitter.com/Stonekettle/status/921096464016822272

    ETA: And fuck Vance too.

  61. 61.

    Davebo

    October 19, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Well, given we’re only offering paltry loans instead of federal disaster dollars like TX and FL got there could be an upside.

    Suck as much FEMA support as PR can, then declare independence and file the bankruptcy that’s needed that Congress made impossible.

  62. 62.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 19, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    @Ruckus: Wow, that sucks. My condolences.

  63. 63.

    Kathleen

    October 19, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: To me it’s simple. When the Mainslime Media fall all over them and uncritically repeat the favorable script adopted by PunditVille, with no context or background information be suspicious. Be very suspicious. I’m adding Wilmer and Greenwald to your list.

  64. 64.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 19, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    @lamh36: Cenk? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…cough…wheze…HAHAHAHAHAHA.

  65. 65.

    Mnemosyne

    October 19, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @lamh36:

    I have to admit, that makes me happy. At least he was smart enough to realize he was a distraction.

  66. 66.

    Mnemosyne

    October 19, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:

    I may need to re-re-arrange my schedule again. ?

  67. 67.

    Elizabelle

    October 19, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah.

    Kelly’s appearance is not going to wear well for him. The mask, it dropped.

  68. 68.

    Chyron HR

    October 19, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @lamh36:

    Considering that the Our Revolutionaries claim to be the champions of the white working master race in America’s heartland, it sure is weird how all they do is primary blue state Democrats.

  69. 69.

    Ruckus

    October 19, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @WaterGirl:
    I’m not sure, as far as I know I’ve never seen the inside of my colon without the use of a camera and a doctor. And I’d think I might remember.

  70. 70.

    Mnemosyne

    October 19, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    @Ruckus:

    Ugh. That always sucks. And so young, too.

  71. 71.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 19, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    OT

    Hunter Walker‏Verified account hunterw
    Somebody just mooned the president’s motorcade.

    I wonder if Pence was on the trip, and if Mother keeps smelling salts in her handbag for such occasions

  72. 72.

    boatboy_srq

    October 19, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    @Davebo: Don’t delve too far into the conversation there. It devolves far too quickly into the Benghazi-Pizzagate swamp.

  73. 73.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 19, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    @lamh36: @?BillinGlendaleCA: baaaaaahahahahaha gasp

  74. 74.

    Tilda Swintons Bald Cap

    October 19, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    @Kathleen:

    @davidfrum
    This experiment of inviting career military men to supervise and control a disrespected president may be even riskier than first thought…

  75. 75.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 19, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    From the Frank Rich article:

    After the debacle of 2016, might the time have at last come for Democrats to weaponize their anger instead of swallowing it? Instead of studying how to talk to “real people,” might they start talking like real people? No more reading from wimpy scripts concocted by consultants and focus groups. (Clinton couldn’t even bring herself to name a favorite ice-cream flavor at one campaign stop.) Say in public what you say in private, even at the risk of pissing people off, including those in your own party.

    This makes sense to me.

  76. 76.

    Kathleen

    October 19, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @Ruckus: That is so sad. My condolences.

  77. 77.

    Ruckus

    October 19, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    Thanks everyone.
    I work in a small shop, 9 of us including the boss and this young man. He was well liked and a very fast and good learner. He had lots of friends, he will be missed.

  78. 78.

    Kathleen

    October 19, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    @Tilda Swintons Bald Cap: I think Haig pulled it off to some extent, but as others have said even Watergate coverage had boundaries and consensus that what Nixon was accused of was improper and unlawful. No such luck with the majority of TV “reporters” and pundits today.

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    October 19, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I never watched him. Is that a good gasp or a bad gasp?

  80. 80.

    Ruckus

    October 19, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:
    Ya know, if we have to know the candidates favorite ice cream flavor, I think we are the broken ones. drumpf revealed his worst secrets, which weren’t secret at all and are horrible and he gets elected, she gets shit for not revealing her ice cream preference………… I’m thinking that there is something so fundamentally wrong with this picture that maybe we should just fucking start all over.

  81. 81.

    chris

    October 19, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That’s my man!

    If you’re not following Daniel Dale, @ddale8, you’re missing out. He’s permanently on a tab in my browser. Another Canadian to follow is William Gibson, @GreatDismal, the writer. He posts a lot of stuff beyond the outrage du jour, the stories that get lost in the noise.

  82. 82.

    rikyrah

    October 19, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    JD Vance was also shit all along.

    no doubt

  83. 83.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 19, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: Makes sense to me. There’s no reason to hold back. We need more Maxine Waters who speak passionately and go for the jugular.

  84. 84.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 19, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @Ruckus: So sorry to hear of this young man’s passing. Way too young.

  85. 85.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 19, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    @Ruckus: The Constitution was meant to evolve, despite the protestations of those people. After all this, it will need to evolve some more, I think. Still worth fighting for.

  86. 86.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 19, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: More people should go Maxine more often.

  87. 87.

    kindness

    October 19, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    Every single person mentioned above is an abominable one. And these are the schmucks that are our shadow masters? OMG we are so screwed.

  88. 88.

    Jeffro

    October 19, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: authenticity, how does it work?

  89. 89.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 19, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    @WaterGirl: he’s awful and towards the top of my list in the Russian Agent Or Useful Idiot? pageant.

  90. 90.

    Brachiator

    October 19, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    @Ruckus: Very sorry to hear this. My condolences to family and all those who knew and cared about this person. It brings to mind the loss of a coworker last year. He was also 27 when he died.

  91. 91.

    J R in WV

    October 20, 2017 at 12:40 am

    @Ruckus:

    Not long after I started work at what turned out to be my longest employment up to retirement, I got to work on time, and there were people all around outside, holding each other, crying.

    Turned out a young manager, very popular with everyone, in a somewhat stressful position managing the unit issuing environmental permits had committed suicide the night before, using a hose from his car’s exhaust into the passenger cabin. His boss was always first into work and found him early that morning.

    Worse, when his fellow employees, in a pretty informal office, turned up at the wake, they learned that he had kept a diary, and in it every joke or jest was turned into a deliberate arrow into his heart. I worked with him as IT analyst asking him questions about data needs. We joked and chatted as friends, as did everyone. But the folks who worked for and with him at the wake were turned away.

    The next day there were armed security guards at work, first time ever.

    A few days later his parents came and met with his boss, a really good guy I worked with until he retired, Army Reserve Master Sargent and Director of the Office the victim had worked for. They apologized for the attitude at the wake, and realized that the diary was a symptom of his illness. The guards went away.

    He was such a good guy, bright, cheerful, amusing, but with something wrong somehow. Really sad. Way too young. Maybe the problem was that he was so successful so young? We will never know. This was in the 90s. so a long time ago. Your story brought it back like it was yesterday.

    Your guy is a newer tragedy, he didn’t go to his doctor, didn’t understand the danger, maybe didn’t care? That last would be closer to R’s tragedy back in the ’90s, a little. I’m sorry for your loss. It’s so hard when youngsters pass, it seems so wrong.

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    October 20, 2017 at 12:46 am

    @WaterGirl:
    Anyone who ever said the world is fair is not to be believed about anything because they are full of shit. Life is anything but fair. Lots of days it’s anything but easy. We some times/all the time forget that it wasn’t very long ago that lots of people didn’t make it into adulthood, that life wasn’t just hard it was short and mostly miserable. It is better but still, for many that better is minor.

  93. 93.

    Ruckus

    October 20, 2017 at 12:58 am

    @J R in WV:
    This kid was born with a physical disability. He’s endured numerous operations, and lived with some pain, and a smile on his face. He enjoyed life, worked at enjoying it, maybe worked too hard at it. But that’s not for me to say. He was under a doctors care for the wound, she even came to work one day to change the dressing. He wasn’t careless, he and I talked about health all the time, the doc that told him about clots had done an ultrasound on the area only days before. This was just such a major and weird wound that the risk of problems was pretty high. IOW he took care of himself, he understood risks, better than a lot of people his age. He’s had a tragic life that he lived as well as possible. He was a responsible adult human being. Can’t get a lot better than that.

    Not picking on you at all, just putting this out there. Some people come into your life and don’t make much of an impression one way or another. He wasn’t one of those.

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