TaMara emailed and asked me to do a PSA post on the immigrant integration event tomorrow night in Denver. Here are the details from one of our lurkers:
I’m a BJ lurker in Denver, and my partner and I are putting on an immigrant integration event sponsored by the city’s Office of Immigrant and Refugee Affairs, designed to support and integrate immigrant populations with receiving community members. Last year, TaMara was kind enough to promote our event Night of Arabic Comedy on Balloon Juice. This year, we’re hosting a Mexican comedy focused event, featuring an immigrant stand-up comic, Miriam Moreno, who will perform in English & Spanish followed by a subtitled Cantinflas film, Gran Hotel. Cantinflas is a beloved Mexican comedian who has been called the Mexican Groucho Marx – and Charlie Chaplin called Cantinflas “the world’s greatest comedian”. It’s a completely free event at the Buntport Theater tomorrow night, Tuesday November 14th, starting at 7:30. Hopefully it’s something that the politically-minded readership at Balloon Juice would find interesting, as our goal is to foster stronger connections with immigrants and the receiving community.
So those of you readers, commenters, and/or lurkers in the greater Denver area, if you’re free tomorrow night, please consider taking in a free show.
Open thread!
lamh36
lamh36
I asked in a previous thread, but not sure if someone answered.
When is CHump back from this Asia trip and when if Hope Hicks scheduled to be interviewed by Bob Mueller?
TenguPhule
@lamh36: He’s due back Wed.
ETA: We got official warning of air shutdown due to their refueling here for tomorrow.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: How long do you all have to hold your breath?
lamh36
Anyone brave enough to watch Fox News and tell how they are reporting the new accuser of Roy Moore and the Wikileaks news from Jr
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
Maybe he’ll order AF One to land in Moscow and pull a Snowden.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman: Three hours, give or take.
lamh36
@TenguPhule: oooh, I’m off Wednesday…wonder if Mueller et al will wait until Thursday to drop the next bombshell…hmmm
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@lamh36:
I can guess.
Roy Moore is a man of God and it’s not statutory rape if they looked old enough
TenguPhule
Here we go again!
There’s so much gas being lit that you can see these fuckers coming from orbit.
lamh36
ETA: Sooooo…no longer a “Washington Post” story then…
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Tucker is doing tax breaks for illegal immigrants. Which is the name of my new ska cover band!
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: Blue is your color.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman: It beats going red.
Roger Moore
@lamh36:
I’m not going to watch, but my money is that they’re avoiding coverage by talking about Trump’s Asia trip. Refusing to cover this shit is way easier than trying to spin it into something innocuous.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
Or orange
lamh36
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I’m gonna take a wild guess and say it’s something like “la la la, we can’t hear you!”. They are surely talking about anything but Roy Moore, pervert.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
To my great shock, Mitch McConnell appears to have said he believes the women.
TenguPhule
It says something that with all the news breaking today, the bleak scientist warning of second notice on global climate change didn’t even get a mention.
TenguPhule
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Not so surprising really, it was his least bad option for himself.
lamh36
Baud
@lamh36: Good. Let’s not let that fall down the memory hole however. They’ll be back in another form.
Baud
@lamh36: Polls in the Virginia race were all over the place. Don’t lose heart.
WaterGirl
@lamh36:
guachi
On the upside, that 10-point lead is down from a 22-point lead in the last poll by that polling firm.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@lamh36:
“No Yankee is gonna tell us what to do! He may be a pedophile, but he’s our pedophile. He’s a (white) man of God and will kill all those degenerates. Praise the lord and pass the ammunition.”
lamh36
@Baud: Well according to the Alabama reporter on the ground. It is STILL likely that Moore wins and the allegations are also likely to INCREASE he numbers…
Soooo basically the majority the Bama elecotorate are a bunch of moral hypocrites…who care more about abortion rights…than the fact that they are gonna be sending a disgusting creeptster to represent ALL of the state of Alabama…smh…to all my people living in ‘Bama…who are disgusted by this entire thing…I’m not even sure what to say…smh.
We’ll see if this latest NON-Washington Post story makes a difference
lgerard
@lamh36:
That’s the final stake in the old bastards desiccated heart
The New Yorker claims that he was actually banned from the mall for harassing young women
lamh36
I refuse to watch ANY @CNN panel that includes a “Trump Supporter” when discussing this Roy Moore story. @AC360 you should be ashamed of yourselves…but why would expect anything decent from ya’ll anyway…smh
WaterGirl
@lgerard: It seems that perhaps as people are seeing blood in the water, people are not as afraid to speak out against him. Perhaps there is no love lost for Roy Moore in some circles?
Baud
@lamh36: We’ll find out soon enough.
lamh36
Lord….
ETA: If the White House issues ANY sort of statement on Roy Moore talking bout they “believe the women” ANY counter question from media shoudl be what make these women more believable than the women who accused candidate Donald Trump…who Kelly & Sara Huckabee called liars!!!
lgerard
@WaterGirl:
i think that is very true. I am sure that there are many Alabama republicans who think he is a lunatic. But Luther Strange was not very popular either after the scam he pulled to get appointed Senator. There wasn’t much choice in the primary really.
Baud
@lamh36: I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone is talking to a pollster.
Adam L Silverman
There really is one of these for everything!
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: He’s single!
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: It’s creepy.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: But was he banned from at least one local shopping mall for stalking teenagers as an adult ? We need to know his qualifications and expertise on the subject.
Jackie
Cruz pulls his endorsement. Bannon won’t be pleased.
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: Ugh…and that’s not even the guy Anderson had on his panel…ugh
lamh36
Seriously read the AL.COM story…locally sourced w/people on the record!!!
smh…
ETA: The AL.com link, ICYMI: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/gadsden_residents_say_moores_b.html
randy khan
@Baud:
Polls in Virginia really weren’t all over the place, as Nate Silver has noted.
But a 12-point swing in a month is a lot, and other polls have showed a much tighter race, some now with Jones ahead.
jl
From news I see, I think right about now is time to start making serious case for Trump impeachment that large section of public will buy.
Too much has come out on Trump-Russian connection (we don’t need proof of collusion with active participation from Trump end, but we do have solicitation and massive (and luckily for us, so far massively incompetent) lying that put US national security at risk).
And politically motivated interference in DOJ antitrust decision in order to intimidate press (I’m betting there will be no half-way respectable ‘novel legal theory’)
And now, apparently DOJ starting bogus investigation of bogus HRC uranium non-scandals with zero evidence of anything illegal
And that is on top off all the existing reasons, including flagrant and enthusiastic violations of emoluments clause.
trollhattan
@lgerard:
Well now don’t that just chafe your chaps! This Moore feller is a real mensch.
jl
@lamh36: the first story I saw on banning from the mall had around half a dozen sources, including local law enforcement who knew about the bans at the time. I think that puts even the first story in the ‘very credible allegation’ category.
And multiple independent sources say he used his public office to intimidate the victims.
I’d like more attention on the outrage of the AL GOP threatening the women who come forward. Any victim who comes forward with charges in good faith, needs to be protected, and any decent human being should stay far away from any hint of threat or defamation. Depraved people from Fox News to local AL GOpers defaming the accusers, and local GOPers making BS, but to the people involved, scary legal threats.
trollhattan
@jl:
Doubt any of this will flip votes to the Democrat but perhaps enough dispirited Moore voters will simply stay home.
lamh36
jl
@trollhattan: We’ll see. I saw some polling that a plurality of AL GOP voters are hanging on flimsy excuse that the charges are a political smear job in order to excuse their continued support. We’ll see how long that bunch holds out, with four or five local ex-cops say the guy was a stalker who got banned from at least one local shopping mall.
Edit: OTOH, if you do in fact think any Democrat is worse than a guy who stalks and assaults teenagers, uses his public office to intimidate people and cover up his crimes, and is a liar, and actually also a bad liar who makes admissions and then clumsily backtracks the very next day, well, OK then. Not much to argue about with them.
Elizabelle
@TenguPhule: In happier news. Bob Goodlatte, Virginia congresscritter (R-lunacy) is retiring in 2018.
Will not miss him, or Bob Marshall (crazy ass Virginia delegate, paleocon defeated by a transgender Democrat).
Elizabelle
@jl: It’s a long month before election day.
And what they say to pollsters, and what they say within their family and church-family circles, might be different. I’d rather be Doug Jones than Roy Moore, any day of the year. Even if Mr. Jones loses, he is still a class act. And a brave one.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: I think they’re hoping Hillary gets removed from the Oval Office before Trump is.
jl
@Elizabelle: I’d bet a lot of people will continue to make absurd excuses for support, but won’t have the energy to get the polling place or make a mark next to his name if they do get out.
JPL
@trollhattan: It’s really hard not to vote, if you always vote. just sayin
trollhattan
@jl:
I believe you just aced the interview to become the next RNC chairman. Congrats! :-P
Has anybody asked Newt what he thinks? This sort of thing is right up his alley.
jl
@trollhattan: Thanks, send me contact info in case I need a recommendation :).
Edit: and underneath the depravity, is the chickenshittery. I think the Dems have had the self respect to cut loose some bad actors and take the hit for one election. The GOPer reactionaries will destroy themselves with general public opinion in order to save a slime like Moore. To the point that it is self destructive. Imagine what will come out afterwards if he is elected? If McConnell has decided to bail on Moore, that is a very strong signal that one of the top cynical masters of the game knows it’s time to cut losses.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: There was no actual link in your post. All you did was capture the reply button. I fixed that part for you.
Also, nothing shows integrity like waiting till everyone else has made their move before making one’s own.
ETA: The above refers to Senator Cruz, not jl. Apparently there’s some confusion.
Elizabelle
Richmond Times Disgrace:
Chesterfield County is adjacent to Richmond, with Petersburg to the south. About 70% white.
lamh36
Proof positive It truly is the End of Days…or simply the broken clock conundrum…
p.a.
Drain the swamp hah! ‘Moore’ like recruit from the sewer. Deep bench of deplorables.
different-church-lady
@lamh36: If only someone had… you know… tried to tell him.
lamh36
@trollhattan: newt the other day on Hannity called it a “lynch mob” against Roy Moore
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: That’s why Trump will only be impeached should Congress flip in 2018. Republicans still have an agenda to push so they need Trump in the White House.
Miss Bianca
wish I lived close enough to run up to Denver on a school night! Hope it goes well!
lamh36
And… a Menendez name drop from the fmr Trum communications dir on CNN…comparing to to the Mrs Young on presser… talking bout made him recall when the “young prostitutes talked about…Menendez….” BLAH BLAH BLAH…
Really…you saw Mrs Young’s presser and u name drop Menendez…smh
jl
@Adam L Silverman:
” Also, nothing shows integrity like waiting till everyone else has made their move before making one’s own. ”
Was that aimed at me? I got some heat a few days ago for insisting on being careful about using the words ‘true’ and ‘allegations’, ‘credible allegations’ and ‘very credible’ allegations, and staying on solid ground wrt to words used and moving to more and more conclusive language as the story developed. I stand by the importance of making that distinction, even if I was clumsy in how I worded that point.
Edit: also, I do think more attn should be paid to disgraceful role of Fox and AL GOP. If the truth could have been adjudicated in court of law at the time, Moore would have spent some well justified time in the clink. But depraved language from Fox and AL GOP is example of intimidation that prevented that from happening.
lamh36
And THIS is why Jeff Sessions ain’t going back to that Senate seat…he gots shit to stir and people of color to prosecute…and political opponents…
Adam L Silverman
@jl: No, that was referring to Cruz. Backbone of wet tissue paper.
mike in dc
@Patricia Kayden:
It’s going to be a hard sell even with a majority in the House, if we don’t have one in the Senate too. If we have both, and have knocked off Paul Ryan, it will be easier to nudge 15+ R senators to do the right thing. Ideally, for a fact pattern supporting impeachment and removal, such a vote should be near-unanimous, for the benefit of the country.
Elizabelle
@lamh36: Smells of desperation to me.
And bananas. Banana Republic move.
Yarrow
@lamh36: Jeff Sessions is going to prison.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Those prosecutors are career DOJ. They will take their time and quietly review everything that was done with each thing they’ve been asked about. Some time, starting in about 90 days or so, with potential delays because of the holidays, they’ll report back that there is no factual basis to further investigate any of this and that the Comey email investigation is before the IG, as Sessions knows, and therefore needs to remain off limits so the IG can proceed unimpeded. It is going to be very, very difficult for Sessions to turn any of this into something that DOJ will actually move forward on. But by doing this, and leaking that he’s doing it, he get’s both the President off his back, as well as the couple of members of the House that were saying today he needed to either do this or resign. Sessions is a racist ideologue. He already knows he’s on thin ice with the FBI and the Intel Community over the Russia interference stuff. This is him just buying time by assigning make work.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: OK. I didn’t know you could bother about whatever the heck Cruz is up to, unless essential. You are a stronger person than I am.
Edit: Cruz does understand his audience and fan base very well. I think they really admire that kind of slimy maneuvering. and I mean that in the worst possible way wrt to Cruz and his fanbase.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Was that Jason No Chin, but baby daddy to two women, one of whom I’m not married to Miller?
lamh36
The Alabama reporter on Maddow said much the same thing…yes…it may make people pause…and maybe folks will see a problem…but while the national GOP may have issued all these statements…the LOCAL/STATE GOP have not…and even as disturbing as the news from WashPo, the New Yorker, and now the local Alabama paper, the RNC is still on the ground helping Roy Moore campaign…and while the paper’s opinion page says Moore is unfit…even with how credible Mrs Young’s presser was…
His money is STILL on Roy Moore winning, and so is the local GOP.
Sure we can hope that Alabama voters have more moral heart than political partisanship, but it’s more likely a fools game…but we shall see I guess
NotMax
@lamh36
Wouldn’t be at all surprised to discover there are yahoos in Alabama who believe it is illegal to vote D.
lgerard
@Adam L Silverman:
I hate that guy. I’m glad he was too damaged even for trump to choose as spokesasshole.
Patricia Kayden
@Elizabelle: The garbage is helpfully taking itself out.
lamh36
ET
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I remember many years ago when all those mega church preachers were getting caught doing all sorts of unChristian like things, people wondered why they never seem to suffer any consequences. Someone said something to the affect that that instead of the Bible being a deterrent it gave them forgiveness. All that church time sort of inoculated them for when they misbehaved. This may apply with the Moore situation.
Mike J
@lamh36: My 240 is still one of my favorite cars I ever owned.
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: not this time…he saved his BS punditry for the Wikileaks segment. He called the presser compelling, but said as many have said that the combination of the WashPo, Washington GOP withdrawing and Gloria Allred…that it would actually increase Moore’s chances of winning
naw this was another guy, a Hispanic guy, I think…he also called the presser compelling, but then decided to name drop Menendez and “young prostitutes”…betting he had been waiting to use that comparison all day.
lamh36
lgerard
@lamh36:
I have a hard time believing this. The people in Alabama may be conservative and jebusy, but they are not all stupid and many of them won’t condone this. The fact that Cowboy Roy is obviously lying is not helping him.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Then they got his title wrong. The campaign spokesman was No Chin and before him Sam Too Many Chins Nunberg.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: I learned to drive in a 264 GL.
Duane
@trollhattan: Oh, Hannity asked the Newt on his radio show today. He thinks the Clinton’s are guilty. Still playing the classics.
lamh36
@lgerard: hm…I don’t have a hard time at all believing it.
I have no faith in white evangelical voters caring enough about the hypocrisy that they would condone something so foul as this Moore business to vote for the Dem over Moore if he never dropped out.
different-church-lady
@lamh36: Gonna be a blast watching wingnuts buy Volvos and then smash them to bits.
Lyrebird
@jl: Yeah, one of the other tidbits on the Ben Jacobs Twitter feed that @lamh36
mentioned has a photo of a story from 15 years ago, saying that Moore was unpopular in Gadsden (sp?) but that people wouldn’t say why.
Corner Stone
@lamh36: I doubt many Hannity viewers own a Volvo. But maybe the ones that do will start smashing them in protest?
Adam L Silverman
@different-church-lady: Too late:
https://youtu.be/eaMgeF29bkU
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: Ah…I’m sure I go the title wrong then, but it def said Fmr Trump something or other..hmmm
Corner Stone
How many teen girls do you have to creep on to “get banned” from an AL mall in the late 70’s / early 80’s ?
I mean, that’s gotta be like you’re following them into bathrooms kinda stuff, right?
Gin & Tonic
@lamh36: Is that Joe “I ain’t payin’ no child support” Walsh?
Lizzy L
@Corner Stone: I expect he was doing just that. The guy’s a predator. If this is what he was doing in his thirties, I would like to know what he was doing in his forties and fifties. Someone knows.
lgerard
Here is another example of that irritating bullshit excuse trope that the trump team uses endlessly from this article today in Politico
Do they spend all day just joking around?
lamh36
@Gin & Tonic: ah…yep…the apocalypse…it is a’comin’
Another Scott
@Omnes Omnibus: My step mom had a 76 Ogle.
As my dad liked to call it. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Elizabelle
Wow. From AL.com: today’s accuser was in the same high school and grade as Moore’s future wife.
And, of course, Roy Moore was mall ratting too, even hitting on Santa’s Helper:
Aside from being predatory, it’s kind of sad and tawdry, like Michael Jackson wanting to recreate his childhood with actual children at Neverland. It’s arrested development.
We haven’t seen any reporting yet, have we, on Moore’s parentage and upbringing. Could he have been molested in his youth?
Whole thing strikes me as Moore being immature and not ready for adulthood. Red flag upon red flags.
lgerard
@lamh36:
i think there will be enough people staying home or writing in someone else to make a difference. I just can’t see many people in that middle 30% on the reasonableness scale going to the polls to pull a lever for Roy Moore, sex pervert.
But I am an optimist .
Calouste
Has anyone serious already pointed out that Wikileaks confessed to shitgibbon Jr. that they committed a crime, and his reaction basically was “I’ll see what I can do with the results of that crime”?
jl
@Elizabelle: ” Moore being immature and not ready for adulthood ”
I think if proper attention is paid to fact that Moore repeatedly used his office to threaten and intimidate witnesses to his harassment and assaults, and that he abused his office to cruise courtroom hallways to pick up vulnerable adolescents and young adults involved in custody cases, it is a lot worse than an immature 30-something looking for a very young adult girl friend. It is started with immaturity, he let it spread into very unethical, predatory behavior, and very credibly, illegal acts.
Edit” OK, sorry. I guess I skipped over your mention of ‘predatory’ So, I am amplifying the additional very serious problems with Moore’s behavior.
Elizabelle
@jl: No prob, they’re very much intertwined. And you can never take out the threats: he was an adult, in a position of (legal) power.
I wonder if Moore’s West Point classmates ever noticed any of this behavior. Not wanting to go visiting at nearby women’s colleges; maybe wanting to check out the high schools. Although the fellow cadets might have been his wingmen.
TS
@TenguPhule: And they would investigate the Clinton Foundation – which actually achieves it goals while ignoring the make believe Trump Charity machine. There is nothing positive about trump and the unqualified morons he appoints to his administration nor the GOP in congress.
They have NO idea how to govern, – all they want to do is oppose democrats.
Omnes Omnibus
@Elizabelle:
Yeah, no. I spent a lot of time being immature and not ready for adulthood. I didn’t perv on teenagers.
Elizabelle
@Omnes Omnibus: True. Not ‘splaining away Moore’s deviance. And I would want to smack him if he tried anything on me or a sister or friend. But then you’d be afraid he could make legal trouble for you.
tweets on Cole’s feed, from others:
From Richard W. Painter:
Alabama GOP has not covered itself in glory. LOL.
Duane
@Another Scott: Yeah, but what kind of car did she drive?
TenguPhule
@Elizabelle: That is good news.
TenguPhule
@Omnes Omnibus: In my defense, I was a teenager at the time. But I only looked and didn’t touch.
Omnes Omnibus
@TenguPhule: I spent a far longer time being immature and not ready for adulthood. I still never perved on teens. An interest in old wine and young women has limits (now, I find that I need to mention the existence of lower bounds)