.
But (allegedly) Putin shall have his revenge. Buzzfeed reports “Russia, Banned From The Winter Olympics, Apparently Is Hacking Olympic Emails”:
Just over a month after Russia was banned from participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics, and 30 days before those games start, hackers associated with the Russian government have released a handful of emails that appear to have been stolen from the International Olympic Committee.
Calling themselves “Fancy Bears” — a trolling reference to the games’ mascots and the cybersecurity firm ThreatConnect saying a related, earlier hack was the work of Russian military intelligence hackers known in the industry as Fancy Bear — the hackers published the emails Wednesday. They used the same website and the same format used to publish documents in 2016 that had been hacked from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) in response to that agency’s finding that hundreds of Russian athletes had taken banned substances…
“These emails and documents point to the fact that the Europeans and the Anglo-Saxons are fighting for power and cash in the sports world,” “Fancy Bears” said in its posting, though it’s unclear how the emails are meant to support that claim. Some of the emails’ contents are encrypted and are therefore illegible…
The “Fancy Bears” website, which was created in the wake of ThreatConnect’s announcement, posted medical information taken from WADA files of famous non-Russian Olympians’ use of sometimes banned substances, including WADA’s approval for tennis star Serena Williams to take anti-inflammatories and gymnast Simone Biles use of ADHD medication. For some Russians, news of American athletes being approved for such medicine was evidence of a scandalous double standard.
Asked in December if previous Russian hacking attempts had convinced the organization to take steps to bolster its cybersecurity, an IOC spokesperson told BuzzFeed News, “The IOC continues to monitor security arrangements in the light of the changing environment and threat assessment,” but declined to elaborate…
MisterForkbeard
Russians hack and release email, and then claim it proves something it doesn’t actually show.
Where have I seen this before? >_<
debbie
I can’t imagine this is going to help Putin gain the worldwide respect and admiration he’s craving. My guess is he’s as dumb as his orange American brother.
Teddys Person
Kurt Eichenwald is showing the receipts.
Chyron HR
This is just a distraction for the IOC losing an election that everybody says they should have won. All Olympiads agree that there was no hacking. FAILING SAD! #MOGA
Waldo
We don’t know it’s Russia. It could be some 400-pound guy sitting on his bed who’s mad because he didn’t make the luge team.
trollhattan
Somebody needs to give Jesse Watters’ face a Richard Spenser makeover.
Mnemosyne
It’s neo-McCarthyism to blame Russia for anything. //
Ryan
No doubt the IOC will spend the entire Olympics golfing at the Winter Blue House.
Schlemazel
FYI the name “Fancy Bear” is a code name a group of Russian hackers call themselves. They are part of the group that release Clinton’s emails and have the dirt on wikileaks that turned embassy boy
Mnemosyne
@trollhattan:
I thought it was a nice touch for Eichenwald to publicly call Watters a coward.
Mr Stagger Lee
Well they got the Copa de Mundo later this year, I guess it may be well that the US did not make it, Lord knows what kind of foolishness may go on. Oh BTW, since dealing with , what seems to be a boycott or did the NHL fell off the face of the earth on ESPN, the Olympic hockey games will be without NHL stars, what are America’s chances?
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I know it’s bigoted to say this, but I hate Russia. I swear, other than some music and some books I’ve never read, has anything worthwhile ever come out of Russia? I wish they’d just go away.
Not that I have any fond feelings for the Olympics. They’re as corrupt and useless as Russia.
SteveinSC
Open Sports Thread or “the aspens will already be turning”
“christian’s shins keep him in his BVD’s instead of in his BVB’s”
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I’m sure a lot of people feel that way about the US. Blaming an entire country of people for the misdeeds of their government isn’t really fair, is it?
Mnemosyne
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
I think it’s fair to hate a country’s government but not its people. I know quite a few Russian immigrants (including my amazing dentist) and there seems to be a pretty typical proportion of nice people vs assholes.
That doesn’t mean that the current Russian government and the people working for it aren’t evil fucks.
Juice Box
@debbie: Julia Ioffe certainly thinks that Putin is dumb, although I’m not sure that “as dumb as Trump” is a standard that any other world leader will ever meet.
Ryan
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): They did their part and then some in WWII. But what have they done lately?
JDM
@Ryan: what have we?
Kathleen
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): They did kick Germany’s a** in WW 2. And endured the Siege of Stalingrad
They are tough people.
Xantar
Am I missing something? Why is it supposed to be scandalous that Simone Bilesc took ADHD medicine?
Major Major Major Major
When will people learn to stop using email?
Gin & Tonic
@Major Major Major Major: When will people learn to use secure e-mail? Zimmerman released PGP over a quarter-century ago.
Major Major Major Major
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Sergey Brin?
Major Major Major Major
@Gin & Tonic: still too annoying/confusing for most laypeople.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Smedley (the dog, not me) was out in the yard eating shit as it turns out. How can I freshen his breath? It reeks.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I gave him a mint, but he wouldn’t eat it. Bastard.
Gin & Tonic
Incidentally, thanks to all who expressed positive thoughts in various forms over the last few days. My wife is home and resting comfortably, and I just used the Instant Pot to make a batch of chicken stock to make her some soup. Sure is better to have her at home.
The road back will take a while, but it appears she’s on the mend. There were some worrying moments (one attributable to a probably-contaminated sample on a bacterial culture) but the last 24 hours showed good progress. Turns out there’s a big difference between “I feel sick” and “I feel really sick.” Also turns out that vomiting bile in the ER attracts attention, of the good kind. I’m not going to complain about her treatment – yeah, we were in the ER all fucking day, but there was a reason.
Anyway, forward.
raven
@Gin & Tonic: Sounds as good as it can be.
Amir Khalid
Messing with the Winter Olympics? Why do they even bother? I don’t see what they gain from a successful exploit.
Amir Khalid
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Do breath mints work for dogs?
raven
@Amir Khalid: The question is do breath mints smell better than cat shit?
JPL
@Gin & Tonic: Make sure that you have some of that chicken soup too! If healing thoughts can help, you certainly have mine. Take care.
Kirk
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
My wife is third generation Russian from her father’s side. You’ll understand, I hope, when I say some things worthwhile come from Russia.
(At the same time, I’ve inlaws who fully justify your question.)
Major Major Major Major
@Gin & Tonic: glad to hear you’re on the road back and that all is relatively good.
geg6
@Teddys Person:
Saw him on AM Joy this morning and he was just furious. Called them out under no uncertain terms.
Frankensteinbeck
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
They’ve made a few truly fantastic computer games.
MisterForkbeard
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): One of my best bosses ever came from Russia. Though to be fair, she says Russians are horrible and that’s why she had to leave.
Elmo
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): You have to get him something to chew to get the remnants out of his teeth and mouth. Try a piece of celery slathered in peanut butter or a carrot also slathered in peanut butter. The peanut butter will help absorb and remove the oils containing the evil smell.
opiejeanne
@Kirk: I am ashamed to admit that I sometimes allow my anger with Russia spill over into my attitude about the people. That’s wrong, I know. My favorite neighbor here is Russian, third or fourth generation. The guy building the house on the other side of her I don’t like because he has lied to several people in the neighborhood about the houses he’s building. This is the third. I sometimes need to remind myself that I don’t like him because he’s a jerk, not because he’s Russian.
germy
Baud
@germy: I don’t know why you keep reposting his tweets. We all know what he is now.
germy
ThresherK
Who is Rob Tomoe, and why are Conservatarians reposting his editorial cartoons from Daily Kos?
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: Text is ideal for communicating. It is easily archivable and searchable. The IOC was doing nothing illegal, or even slightly wrong. They need to be able to keep records of who approved waivers for legit medical treatment. the idea that they should only communicate face to face so there are no records of conversations (which you didn’t do, but others have argued) goes against all participles of good management and transparency
Encryption is fine, but if the receiver can decrypt it, so can a hacker. People keep 2048 bit keys on a ring with the password, “password”. Somebody, somewhere, sometime has to be able to decrypt, which means you can not build a system in which it is impossible for an unauthorized user to gain access. This is why copy protection schemes are doomed to eternal failure.
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: I was joking. The problem is not “email”.
Steeplejack (phone)
Hey, the president is working on the weekend! From this morning:
Baud
@Mike J: My plan for 2020 is to create an email archive showing how kind and generous I am and then get Fancy Bear/WikiLeaks to leak them online.
That reminds me, where is Billin? I need the Photoshop of me saving those puppies.
Gin & Tonic
@germy: I suppose it’s just entirely coincidence that she chose to challenge Ben Cardin within days (hours?) after he released a comprehensive report about Russian election hacking.
Yarrow
@Baud: So impatient! Billin’s working on the one of you rescuing that kid from the burning house. He’ll get to the puppies one after that.
BC in Illinois
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
This has been replied to a lot already – – and it’s not “some music,” it’s a LOT of good music and great musicians – – but I want to mention one great gift from Russia.
Garry Kasparov.
Kasparov is not only a great chess player and a courageous opponent of Putin. He also is worth reading on two other topics: Artificial Intelligence and the overall US reaction to Putin.
On AI, he can speak from experience, having both won and lost to “Deep Blue.” He defines the future, not in terms of artificial intelligence beating human intelligence, but in terms of exploring what human intelligence can do when teamed up with artificial intelligence. [My example: don’t ask whether a computer can beat a chess champion. Ask whether Garry Kasparov with his computer could beat Magnus Carlsen with his computer.]
On US policy toward Putin, Kasparov is an important reality check. He has contempt for Trump, of course. But he also faults the Obama / Hillary Clinton approach to Putin in the earlier years, when the Russian opposition to Putin would have appreciated more pushback against Putin, as he consolidated power. To put it in our contemporary terms, his complaint is that the West, including Obama and HRC, “normalized” Putin, rather than resisting and fighting back.
We can talk about this “in retrospect” for us; he was living through those days and being deeply disappointed in the US, the EU, and most of their leaders. Well worth looking into.
(I will say, that I kinda want to support chess masters and pianists who have left Russia.)
Baud
@Yarrow: Oh God, if I had a nickel for every kid we had to go through to get the lighting just right…
Mnemosyne
@germy:
I don’t know what GG is babbling about and I really don’t care. I do find it quite telling that he chose to attack Adam Schiff, who has been pushing hard about Russian interference in 2016.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic:
Chicken soup FTW!
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: I’ve actually heard people argue it. Sorry to jump to conclusions.
Usually they’re either people who don’t understand how actual businesses work, or people who want to sell you the newest snake oil that has all the same problems.
Yarrow
@Gin & Tonic: Total coincidence, of course. Seriously, all Dems who speak out against Russian interference in our elections and society in general need to be prepared for something like that.
Don’t know if you saw this–I posted it in the morning thread. (Note: had to remove some hashtags to get by our limit of links here.)
We could benefit from some education on disinformation here.
Patricia Kayden
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Oh no!! I am so thankful that as greedy as my dogs are, they don’t eat sh*t. Couldn’t deal with them since I’m hugging and kissing their cheeks all the dang time.
Try brushing their teeth and giving them dental sticks to chew. I think there’s something you can spray on sh*t to make it yucky to your dog.
mai naem mobile
Greenwald’s probably ‘verifying’ these emails as we speak. Gotta do what you gotta do for your pay master right? Seriously, at some point doesn’t this stuff get disregarded when the media find out that the Russians have edited or plain made up these emails.
Baud
@Yarrow: Constituents need to be educated too. They were able to peel off just enough to win in 2016.
ETA:. I missed that you said this first time I read it.
Yarrow
@Baud: I know. You talked about that big pile of kids next to the burning house at the time. They were just so uncooperative.
zhena gogolia
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
PushkinGogolDostoevskyTolstoy PavlovaBulgakovPetrushevskayaAkhmatova TsvetaevaMandelstamBrodskyGlinkaTchaikovsky GoncharovaSikorskyLomonosovMendeleyevPavlov NabokovKomissarzhevakayaBlokSologubBely LermontovNureyevBaryshnikovHvorostovskyNetrebkoYulBrynner
Do I have to go on?
germy
@Gin & Tonic:
Is it because of where she lives? I don’t know enough about her campaign to understand what she’s doing.
JohnO
Hypothetically (of course) who might a person contact if they were willing to hide a Dreamer or two?
Asking for an acquaintance…
Mike J
@Mnemosyne: He’s upset about FISA, which allows courts to review law enforcement use of wiretaps against foreign agents inside the United States.
Mike J
@JohnO: Courts overturned Trump admin. No need to hide, they can reapply, at least for now.
Yarrow
@Baud: I edited it because I forgot to include it. Was so focused on getting rid of the too many hashtags to make sure it would post.
Baud
@Yarrow: Ah, good. It’s hard to know whether one is losing one’s mind these days.
ThresherK
@Gin & Tonic: That’s not very much of a coincidence to me.
debit
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Supposedly, if you put a few chunks of fresh pineapple in your dog’s food it will make his shit less palatable to him. This doesn’t help with his current breath but hopefully will stop him from eating it in the future. Wait, is this Mingobat Darlington Prunebanks we’re talking about?
MisterForkbeard
@Mike J: To be fair, FISA isn’t particularly fantastic, though it’s useful for LEO and is generally easy to get authorization, even retroactively. In fact, it’s explicitly designed so you can get authorization after the fact to enable listening in on rapidly evolving situations.
This is what made Bush’s warrantless wiretapping so bad. He couldn’t even get the FISA court to sign off on it, and it signs off on nearly everything.
JohnO
@Mike J:
This person I know is being proactive.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Thank you all for the suggestions. I already gave him some of those teeth cleaning chews, and I’ll try the pineapple and the carrot and peanut butter later on. And, yeah, I know that Russia is more than Stalin and Putin. I just get frustrated and pissed off by all the shit coming from the people who run the place. It isn’t rational or fair, and I know that.
Yarrow
@JohnO: I’d suggest talking to churches that work with that community, especially if the person can find churches that have said they shelter immigrants. Also, check with local groups working with Dreamers and immigrants. If the person is not known to the groups or churches, they should be prepared to be treated with some suspicion as immigrants are under a great deal of stress at this point and ICE is doing things like deporting people direct from hospitals and waiting at courthouses to arrest people.
JohnO
@Yarrow:
Thank you!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Getting ready for a photoshoot in Pasadena.
@Yarrow: Heh, that too.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Do you have enough kittens? Don’t want a repeat of last time.
danielx
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
When people have been living under a police state for the last thousand years or so….
Gelfling 545
Just finished the first 4 chapters of Fire and Fury. If a quarter of what Wolffe wrote is true things are so much worse thst I ever imagined. And I imagined it was pretty bad.
Damned at Random
@zhena gogolia: I’m reading Gorky’s autobiographies – laughing and crying – sometimes in the same chapter. Late 19th century Russia was a shithole (no apologies, I use that language in public) and ripe for revolution. Something about shitholes results in great literature (See also WIlliam Faulkner, Charles Dickens)
schrodingers_cat
May be Maggie Hackerman can ask the president to name the shit hole countries. That should do wonders for diplomacy.
germy
@Gelfling 545: Is there a lot of Melania in it? Or does she just burst into tears on election night and then fade into the background?
germy
Another Scott
@JohnO: Dunno if you’ll find information like that on a simple Google search.
UnitedWeDream might be plugged into people who might know, though.
The best thing to do is to do, IMHO, is what you can to make sure that the temporary injunction from the court is made permanent and/or a sensible DACA bill is enacted quickly.
HTH a little. Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Yarrow
@JohnO: You’re welcome. Since the courts have pushed back on the Trump administration, now is the time to start volunteering or doing the research so that if shelter is needed in the future this person is already a known and hopefully trusted person to the groups and can step in right away.
schrodingers_cat
@Yarrow: SPLC needs volunteers to represent immigrants caught up in the deportation detention machine, especially lawyers.
Another Scott
Hey JC and/or Alain – someone needs to update the Copyright date here. It’s 2018 now. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
(“Who notes the copyright notice is optional since 1989.”)
Adria McDowell
It’s not Russians I have a problem with, it’s Putin and his oligarchs.
Lest we forget, plenty of Russians have suffered under them for a while.
I’m glad Mrs. Gin and Tonic is feeling better. Same for raven.
Ruckus
@opiejeanne:
Decades ago I knew two Russians, one thought that the general living conditions and that to accomplish anything required bribery were not good. The other thought that because everyone he knew was in the same boat and he didn’t have to work that hard (We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us), it was better in Russia than in the US where he actually had to earn his pay. I think, from all I’ve learned from others from Russia since then, that for most people, these are the main differences in day to day life.
Adria McDowell
@germy: Nicknames I saw on Twitter about that:
#BootieLeaks
#DoodyLeaks
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: No kittens, just puppies.
ETA: Trying to herd cats is almost as bad as herding Democrats.
Doug R
@Baud:
Russian asset?
Patricia Kayden
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Yikes. It’s kind of harsh to claim that an entire country of millions of people is useless and corrupt. Putin and Russian leaders aren’t decent people and are dicks for messing around with other country’s elections and invading neighbors but I cannot speak against an entire nation. Based on my background, wouldn’t want folks to denounce the entire country of Jamaica because of its crime and homophobia and overlook the fact that there are many good people living there. Ditto the U.S. where I now live.
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: So glad your wife is back home, what a relief! So there was no other mystery problem? That would be a relief, too!
Suzanne
I have some Russian neighbors two doors down. When they moved in, they commented positively on my choice of political yard signs. And Spawn the Younger plays with their kids. I like them much more than the white family one house over. The paterfamilias told me he sits by the window with his gun all day.
What a street I live on.
WaterGirl
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): There are these things called Greenies for dogs and cats that are supposed to freshen their breath. You can find them at the pet store.
spudgun
@zhena gogolia: Missed getting to respond to you in an earlier thread, but just wanted to say how sorry I was to hear about your poor kitties – my condolences.
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: I feel you. Greenwald has long since gone over to the other side. The fact that he’s now a full time Trump/Putin apologist is sad, to the say the least, but that’s where he wants to be so to hell with him.
germy
@Adria McDowell: Those are great. When I first read the story, I wondered why I wasn’t surprised at all.
Doug R
@Yarrow:
Found it!
Ruckus
@germy:
Julian needs a boot camp shower.
We had a fellow who wouldn’t take a shower. Earned him the pleasure of having zero friends. Have no idea why, maybe those other swinging dicks all around him or some such but living very closely with 80 people either you all have to shower or no one should. (Been in both situations in the navy, some times there wasn’t enough fresh water to take showers. For weeks. Fun times)
Every day after his “forceful scrubbing” he’d loudly announce when he was taking a shower. Still didn’t earn him friend one.
WaterGirl
@germy: I thought somebody just gave him citizenship so he wouldn’t have to stay cooped up? It’s so hard to keep up…
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: Ecuador asked the UK to grant him diplomatic status, which I guess would mean he could come and go freely, and the UK turned them down.
germy
The eternal question:
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: Yeah, but I thought Ecuador gave him citizenship after that. Maybe I’m on drugs?
spudgun
@Gin & Tonic: So happy to hear the good news – what a relief! I agree with others – be sure to take care of yourself too —
Patricia Kayden
@schrodingers_cat: “All the Black ones, Maggie”. He’d probably be so comfortable with her since she’s such a champion of his presidency that he wouldn’t even hold back. And the bonus would be that his base would give him a standing O.
germy
@WaterGirl: I think he’d be cooped up somewhere no matter what his status was. I remember reading an in-depth article about him a few years back; one of those long profile pieces. He seems like he’s spent his life couch surfing.
If he had his own apartment, it’d be bare except for one chair and a mattress on the floor.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
He still wouldn’t be able to walk freely in Britain. He’d need a current visa or diplomatic status. And it seems that Britain is not going to give him either.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: Citizenship first, then trying to get him diplomatic status. The first Ecuador can do on their own. Apparently, the second was rejected by Britain’s Foreign Office, who I guess have some say in who can be in their country as a diplomat.
Patricia Kayden
@Gin & Tonic:
Good to hear. Hope she gets better soon.
Patricia Kayden
@germy: Great question. Requires some thoughtfulness and empathy, both of which Trump lacks.
germy
@Patricia Kayden:
She is one of the greats on twitter:
Gretchen
@Gin & Tonic: Glad to hear she’s on the mend and home.
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: That makes sense. Thank you!
zhena gogolia
@spudgun:
Thank you.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: I read about your kittehs, how are you holding up? {{{ }}}
SiubhanDuinne
@zhena gogolia:
Plishnetskaya
SiubhanDuinne
@zhena gogolia: @SiubhanDuinne:
GlièreRimskyKorsakovStravinskyGlazunovGretchaninovProkofievShostakovichBortniansky….
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
schrodingers_cat
@SiubhanDuinne: And scientists and mathematicians too. George Gamow, Mendeleev,
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
No love for Nijinsky? ;)
Seriously, I wonder what those on your list would have thought about Putin.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodingers_cat:
Yup. Also Lobaschevsky.
You and ZG and I (and others who have weighed in) are demonstrating that any problems are with Russian governments, whether Czarist or Soviet or Putinesque — not with the beautiful and brilliant and gifted Russian people.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: Nijinsky’s a horse.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Nah, a bit more graceful than a horse.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@zhena gogolia: yeah. you left off Boris Pasternak, Natasha Fatale, Sergei Eisenstein, Maria Sharapova, Olga Korbut, Yuri Gagarin
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: A horse, I tell you.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
A horse who came to a better end than the dancer, apparently.
marc
“These emails and documents point to the fact that the Europeans and the Anglo-Saxons are fighting for power and cash in the sports world,”
They needed to steal dox to know this? Seriously?
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: I guessing it wasn’t a bad life for a horse.
nycmt
My first lover in college was a Muscovite. She came out under Jackson-Vannik with a diversion to the States after Vienna. (We’re still great friends, her with her four kids and the two of mine) I’m not interested in demonizing 140 million people.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
I think you’re right. From your link:
Kayla Rudbek
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): the periodic table was discovered/invented by a Russian. They’re decent at physics and good at math. But absolutely lousy at biology
Aardvark Cheeselog
Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.
J R in WV
@Gin & Tonic:
So glad your wife is home and doing well.
J R in WV
@zhena gogolia:
You left out Rachmaninoff, Vladimir Horowitz, Borodin, just a boat load of composers and musicians. No hard feelings. Rachmaninoff is my favorite, piano concertos, Variations on a theme by – shit I forget his name… it will come to me if I keep talking… Paganini! Famous violinist who created this theme as a cadenza in a violin concerto.
Artur Rubenstein too.
Another Scott
@J R in WV: And Alisa Zinov’yevna Rosenbaum!
(DRVF)*
Cheers,
Scott.
* – duck and run very fast.
smedley the uncertain
@SiubhanDuinne: Ah Ha! Lobachevsky 1793-1856.
Who made me the genius I am today?
One man deserves the credit
one man deserves the blame
and Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name..
This threadis by now dead but then so is Nicolai
But, Tom Lehrer lives on…
smedley the uncertain
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Ahhh, Natasha dollink… Where is squirrel?