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After all, as reported in Fire & Fury, Trump’s not “funny, in that humorous kind of way” — and we know he doesn’t enter any contest where he’s not guaranteed a win…

…“Our dinner honors the First Amendment and strong, independent journalism. [Wolf’s] embrace of these values and her truth-to-power style make her a great friend to the WHCA,” said Margaret Talev, president of the WHCA, in a statement. “Her Pennsylvania roots, stints on Wall Street and in science and self-made, feminist edge make her the right voice now.”

“This is true news,” Wolf tweeted in response to social media posts about her newest gig.

It’s the second year in a row that the dinner — long a venue for A-list comics with established brands such as Bob Hope, Conan O’Brien and Jimmy Kimmel — has turned to entertainers still on the cusp of fame…

Like last year’s host Hasan Minhaj, Wolf is a presence on “The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.” She also released an HBO stand-up special, “Nice Lady,” in December and, just earlier this month, signed on to host a late-night show on streaming giant Netflix. She helped write jokes for Chris Rock’s 2016 Oscars gig and performed on HBO’s “Night of Too Many Stars” last year.

Headlining the dinner has always been a challenge for comics, who have to muscle through a monologue in front of a notoriously tough crowd, but it may be even more so with President Trump in the White House. The proliferation of late-night comedy shows and the dizzying pace of the news cycle means comics doing topical humor have to be able to quickly write timely material, as well as jokes that stand out in a crowded field of professional joke-tellers on TV and amateurs on social media.

The Trump administration is familiar comedic fodder for Wolf, especially during her “Daily Show” appearances. “I realized it’s easier to become president than it is to become Miss America,” she said on a September 2017 episode about the pageant’s regulations. “You know what the qualifications are for president? Thirty-five and born here. That’s not qualifications! That’s the search terms of a sad lady on a Match.com profile.”…

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Apart from nitpicking this choice, what’s on the agenda for the weekend?

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  4. 4.

    Amir Khalid

    As I remember, the challenge for the designated entertainer at the WHCD in recent years included not getting upstaged by the President; Obama, it turned out, was a talented standup comedian himself. Not everyone managed it. Trump, on the other hand, doesn’t show up even just to eat the food.

  7. 7.

    Baud

    AP

    As President Donald Trump talked this week about banning “bump stocks” and curbing young people’s access to guns, the gun owners and advocates who helped propel his political rise talked about desertion and betrayal.

    Don’t get your hopes up that they will abandon Trump.

  9. 9.

    OzarkHillbilly

    It’s raining here. We haven’t had more than a drop or 2 since Sept/Oct and the creeks and rivers were getting really low. It’s rained every day in the past week except 2. Heavy rain all last night, gonna get heavy rain all day today and tonight. The creeks will be jumping their banks all over and the Meramec might even do a little flooding too. I guess the drought is over.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Baud: They might very well turn on him. The gun manufacturers are losing money hand over fist ever since Hillary (the greatest threat to the 2nd Amendment since…. Obama) lost the election. They NEED a bogeyman in the WH.

  14. 14.

    Kay

    I have to work this weekend, but that’s okay. It’s cold and rainy anyway.

    I’m getting confused about these gun regulation marches, so if anyone else is also confused, here’s the list. I think I’m going to March for Our Lives- Cleveland. I don’t know if my son is going out on school walk out day – they’re only out 17 minutes- but in his school any unexcused “cut” gets the same punishment, whether it’s 5 minutes or a whole day so he’ll have to decide if he’s willing to get the punishment. It is not that big a deal as far as a sacrifice. It’s “Saturday school” which they hate but it’s one Saturday, 7:30 to 3:30. We use supplemental contracts for the teachers who work Saturday school in our district and I know they won’t have enough staff to cover hundreds of kids even if they stagger from now until June so the more of them who go out the less likely they are to serve this sentence :)

  15. 15.

    Baud

    @OzarkHillbilly: The NRA, sure. Secretly, they may promote a Dem for that purpose. The marks? Probably not. But if they aren’t propagandized to, maybe their blood pressure goes down.

  19. 19.

    Lapassionara

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yes. Much needed rain.

    Since I am relatively new to Misery, can you fill me in on the reasons some of the R’s in the legislature are sharpening their knives for one of their own?

  22. 22.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Baud: The marks are marks because they are easily persuaded. If the NRA wanted, within a year they could easily flip 90%** of gunowners.That said, my comment was snark. I find it highly unlikely the NRA would turn on their corporate lapdogs (the GOP) because then who would they have to do their dirty work for them?

    ** sarcasm again, a reach to say the least, more accurate to say “a significant percentage”

  25. 25.

    jeffreyw

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’ve been busy with internet upgrades, and I installed a new router yesterday and got everything on my LAN recognized and all the wifi passwords switched out. Cats fed, bird feeder filled, blog posts written, breakfast cooked and consumed. Today I rest!

  26. 26.

    germy

    This year’s Olympics in Pyeongchang mark the second Winter Games freestyle skier Gus Kenworthy took home more than a medal. After rescuing a family of stray dogs from Sochi in 2014, Kenworthy and his boyfriend Matthew Wilkas opted to take home a puppy they dubbed Beemo after touring a dog farm outside Seoul that the Humane Society International allegedly worked to close due to poor conditions.

    “Yes, there is an argument to be made that eating dogs is a part of Korean culture. And, while don’t personally agree with it, I do agree that it’s not my place to impose western ideals on the people here,” Kenworthy wrote when posting about his trip. “The way these animals are being treated, however, is completely inhumane and culture should never be a scapegoat for cruelty.”

    While the Olympian attempted to separate the concept of raising dogs for consumption in his Instagram post and the reportedly “heart-wrenching” conditions he saw, Kenworthy also tweeted, “Dogs are friends. Not food,” kicking off a backlash from people who felt that, as a visitor from the United States to South Korea, that’s not exactly his call to make.

  28. 28.

    Gin & Tonic

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I find it highly unlikely the NRA would turn on their corporate lapdogs (the GOP)

    In 1990, Wayne LaPierre wrote to the good citizens of Vermont to endorse the Independent Socialist candidate who was challenging the incumbent Republican Congressman, former Lt. Governor Peter Smith. Smith lost, and the new Congressman (Vermont has only one seat in the House) later went on to bigger and better things. So they can certainly turn on the GOP if the alternative butters their bread.

  30. 30.

    WereBear

    @germy: Treating animals inhumanely is never alright.

    I buy some of my meat from local farms where the animals are happy during their lives. Yes, it’s more expensive or I would buy more, but it’s a trend I want to support.

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Raven: Yeah, that’s why we have flood warnings all over southern MO, but our karst will still soak up a lot of a long steady rain. I am hopeful that they will at least recharge our aquifers to a significant extent. The springs were getting pretty pitiful.

  33. 33.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Baud:
    They will not abandon Trump because Trump will not abandon them. Jesus, does Trump’s record for dishonesty get flushed down the memory hole every five minutes? He is going to say whatever he thinks will make him look good, do absolutely nothing, and then change his ‘position’ as soon as it’s convenient. As a hardcore, Nazi-sympathizer level white supremacist, he leans pro-gun by instinct and will be back to ‘How dare you restrict these patriots’ in no time.

  34. 34.

    Amir Khalid

    @Baud:
    For a national leader, Malaysian Official One is surprisingly oblivious to the air of corrupt entitlement that he exudes, and thst makes him the least popular Prime Minister ever. (Princesses mock his wife, Reza Aziz’s mother, for being what Groucho Marx called an extravaganza.) Neither his dad nor his uncle was like this as PM. He’s very good at wielding power in his party, though, and that has kept him in place all this while.

    Rice is what Asians eat for carbs. You can find quinoa in supermarkets here, but like Lim Kit Siang says most Malaysians have never heard of it. (A few years ago, neither had most North Americans.) Quinoa has to be imported from the other side of the planet, so of course it’s scarce and very expensive. Anyone else who needed to cut down on carbs would simply eat less rice. But if you’re the kind who wakes up one day to find in your bank account a few billion ringgit that you don’t remember depositing, and not even act surprised, I guess you can afford quinoa instead of rice.

    (Incidentally, that picture of men preparing rice porridge in huge pots was most likely taken during Ramadhan. It would be for a community mosque’s Iftar give-away. I think I know which mosque in KL, but I’d rather not guess.)

  37. 37.

    Thoughtful David

    Rick Wilson (whoever he is) on why Gates lied during plea bargaining:

    I have a guess why he lied: he thought the Nunes memo was going to blow up the Mueller investigation .

    So we have confirmation they actually do eat their own shit.

  38. 38.

    Kay

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    Bernie Sanders tells me he WON’T endorse in #OHGOV. Our Revolution, the group he founded, controversially endorsed Kucinich (who had become an oddly pro-Trump pundit before this comeback run)

    Now there’s some bold leadership, huh? This is really consistent behavior with Bernie Sanders- he is not, in fact, brave. He supports these really aggressive moves but he won’t own them. He did this over and over with Clinton. It pissed her off – she directly confronted him on it at a debate – and it should have.

    Kucinich was a standard-issue urban Democrat in Ohio. He was a type. 2nd or 3rd generation immigrant, Catholic, backed by traditional Democratic groups but NOT especially liberal.

    Marcy Kaptur = Kucinich, except she’s not full of shit and she didn’t “reinvent” herself as some kind of uber- Lefty as a marketing gimmick. That’s the flavor of Democrat he is but that’s not fashionable enough so he pretends to be unique.

  39. 39.

    Baud

    @Amir Khalid:

    But if you’re the kind who wakes up one day to find in your bank account a few billion ringgit that you don’t remember depositing,

    I would like to be that kind of person.

    Thanks for the response. Glad to be reminded the U.S. isn’t alone in the bad elites department.

  41. 41.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Lapassionara: Grietens has made many enemies in Jeff City by painting all legislators, Rs as well as Ds, as scum. He came in as an “outsider determined to clean things up” in Jeff City. Basically, he’s an asshole. He thought if it worked for trump it would work for him but state politics aren’t national politics and a sitting Gov is not near as powerful as a sitting President.

    He needs the legislators a hell of a lot more than they need him. Republican Governors are as easy to come by as a dose of the clap in Misery.

  42. 42.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Thoughtful David: Commenter LAO, who is an attorney and has done this sort of work, said last night, IIRC, that lying in the beginning stages of proffer sessions is common.

  43. 43.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @debbie:
    The Ohio River Valley is karst city, all karst all the time, hot karst on karst action. On the Eastern end it’s already full of water, though. Very wet territory. Karst is just limestone. Lots of caves and sinkholes.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    It’s hard to imagine anyone else being able to establish an organization to endorse candidates, staffing it, and then walking away from what that organization does, even assuming he actually wasn’t consulted beforehand.

  45. 45.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    @Thoughtful David: Wilson’s a GOP strategist and NeverTrumper. Clever fellow but also evil. I think he’s the guy that came up with the infamous Max Cleeland/Osama bin Laden ad, but I could be wrong.

  46. 46.

    debbie

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Ah, thanks. I thought it was some kind of soil that would actually absorb water. If it’s working for OH’s area, why not Cincinnati’s? Good thing I’m not a scientist!

  49. 49.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    I know what they’ll say so don’t bother. They’ll say it has no leader because it’s “people-powered”.

    I don’t mind that Bernie Sanders ran on Hillary Clinton’s “corruption” – I mind that he was too cowardly to own it.

    I actually preferred Kucinich when he was a standard-issue white Ohio Democrat who dodged questions on abortion because his “base” at the time – white, Catholic, labor – opposed it. That was more honest.

  51. 51.

    debbie

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Speaking of Wayne LaPierre, has anyone asked him yet what he thinks about his “good guy with a gun” who froze for four minutes and did nothing other than to listen to the screams of the students? Just curious.

  53. 53.

    Gin & Tonic

    @debbie: I thought I read that there were several deputies outside who waited until the shooting stopped. But I’m too lazy to look for that now.

  54. 54.

    Amir Khalid

    @debbie:
    Also to the point, a good guy with a gun who understood that going in was likely to be futile and result in his own death.

  57. 57.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @debbie: Karst is cave geology, limestone and dolomite, eaten away over the millennia by carbonic acid turning the rock into a sponge, lots of caves, sinkholes and springs. It can soak up a lot of water but it can’t soak it all up if too much comes down all at once or over a period of time. Hence the flood warnings around here and there.

  58. 58.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    May 8.

    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich was a darling of the pro-life movement before he decided to run for president the first time in 2004. The liberal Ohio congressman and former mayor of Cleveland was one of the few on his side of the aisle in Congress with a consistent pro-life voting record.
    As late as 2001 Kucinich called himself pro-life and had a 95 percent pro-life voting record, according to National Right to Life.

    This was prior to his “vegan Catholic” transformation, back when he was campaigning in union halls. That version was better.

  60. 60.

    Citizen Alan

    @germy:

    To be fair, that is pretty much a completely arbitrary value judgment. I can’t think of any coherent argument for the immorality of eating dogs that does not also apply to the immorality of eating pigs and chickens. And I say that as someone who is not a vegetarian and has no problem at all with eating meat.

  61. 61.

    ThresherK

    @Gin & Tonic: At some point I want LaPierre to call those deputies wusses because they were outgunned and didn’t just charge in their with regular pistols and end up on the list of dead or maimed.

    I’m waiting for it because it’s the next logical (sic) step in NRA thinking.

  62. 62.

    Amir Khalid

    @Kay:

    I don’t mind that Bernie Sanders ran on Hillary Clinton’s “corruption” – I mind that he was too cowardly to own it.

    A lot of people here minded because there was not even an iota of truth in the accusation.

  63. 63.

    Kay

    @Amir Khalid:

    I can’t stand his “who ME?” bullshit. He was calling her corrupt. When she turned and looked at him in that debate and told him he was calling her corrupt he denied it.

  64. 64.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Aimai: Where’s a good guy with a gun when you need one? Ducking and running. The whole thing is horseshit. Time and again we have mass shootings, time and again there are people in the locale with guns who do nothing, and for good reasons. I remember one school shooting where a vet with a CC permit did nothing because he didn’t want to get shot… By the cops.

  65. 65.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Amir Khalid:
    I minded even more because it was a major part of the ‘Democrats are denying you your birthright’ message that he STILL throws out and could not be more perfectly designed to encourage young idealists to abandon the party. It probably was specifically designed for that, but I try to be generous and believe he’s merely a useful idiot.

  70. 70.

    debbie

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    You and everyone else posting above are absolutely right that it’s horseshit, but this needs to be pointed out in a face to face. If not LaPierre, than Loesch.

  73. 73.

    Kay

    @Amir Khalid:

    He’s also doing the exact same Sanders playbook. He’s spreading this nonsense that The Establishment is somehow keeping him from his rightful place as the candidate.

    The idiots at newspapers are buying it. The Toledo Blade has run a series of editorials on how Dennis is being treated unfairly by shadowy Party bosses. It’s a lie. Worse, the Toledo Blade is owned by a wealthy family, the Blocks, and the Blocks use the editorial page to attack their own (unionized) workforce, so Kucinich is useful idiot for them.

    Being “the darling” of the anti-abortion movement to the darling of the vehemently anti-labor Block family are not a list of accomplishments I would be bragging about were I a member of Our Revolution, but that;s their candidate.

    Kucinich knows all this. He’s ancient and he’s been a pol forever and he’s certainly intelligent. He knows they’re hoping to use him to defeat Cordray and he’s doing it anyway, because it benefits Dennis Kucinich’s giant ego.

  75. 75.

    Amir Khalid

    @Baud:
    We here don’t have the first-hand knowledge that liberal Americans do of the gap between reality and The NYT’s coverage of Hillary (or of Democrats generally). We reserve our scepticism of Western media for its coverage of our own news.

  80. 80.

    Amir Khalid

    @Baud:
    Yes, quite fair. The NYT, having no sympathies either way, is free to be impartial in covering Malaysian politics.

  82. 82.

    BC in Illinois

    Michele Wolf, corporate tool.

    Wolf used to work at Bear Stearns and JPMorgan Chase. According to a profile on the Daily Beast, Wolf worked in mutual funds and managed accounts.

    I bet she gave speeches there.

  85. 85.

    Tenar Arha

    @BC in Illinois: @WereBear: Yeah Wolf sounds like she did kinda what Brit Marling did, got her payday, cashed out, made a new career. I saw the HBO special, it was raw, but funny. And this doesn’t seem much like punching down.

    ETA The clip is a one minute riff from her HBO special.

  89. 89.

    Betty Cracker

    @Kay: The “Help, help, I’m being repressed by The Establishment” technique seems baked into the Our Revolution playbook and applied to everything, from party-level recording secretary elections to the presidential primary. I’m pretty sure Sanders will run on it again in 2020.

    I have no idea how much of a threat it represents to the goal of removing Republicans from office in 2018 and beyond. I have a feeling it won’t work as well for Sanders since his 2020 opponents probably won’t include anyone scared by a full quarter century’s worth of wingnut attacks who is also a certified hate-object for outlets like the NYT. All Democrats will come under withering media attack and be held to a higher standard than Republicans, but Clinton was a special case, IMO.

    From what I’ve seen at the local and state levels, the OR playbook doesn’t seem to resonate all that much, so far. We’ll see how it shakes out, I guess.

  90. 90.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Kay: One day someone will explain what “The Establishment” is and who they are and what they want, and it will be something with more detail than “corporations” or “Bill and Hillary Clinton and everyone who likes and admires one or the other of them, which is bad.”

  91. 91.

    Baud

    @Betty Cracker:

    I have no beef with the “Vote for me, I’m an outsider” argument (although it doesn’t fit Kucinich very well). My beef is with the rhetoric that prevents them or their supporters from supporting the nominee (or even working against the nominee) after the primary is over.

  93. 93.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Betty Cracker: It’s the belief that holds them together. See, if it’s not that they don’t win elections because The Establishment is repressing them, it’d have to be because they don’t actually have that much support among the general public, and that can’t be the case because everyone they know and talk to about politics feels just like they do, so clearly the self-evident answer is that a sinister cabal wants to stamp them out but they will never relent because they’re such heroes.

  95. 95.

    Matt McIrvin

    @OzarkHillbilly: I bet gun sales are up again. Their core clientele stockpiles guns whenever they’re afraid they’re going to be banned. A big school shooting is a bonanza for them.

  96. 96.

    Tenar Arha

    @BC in Illinois: @WereBear:
    I saw the Miss America bit when it first aired. Not her most funny work, but it’s hard to be funny when you’re doing a takedown of Donald Trump.

    IMHO it was an extended version of the joke (now truism) that Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but backwards, in high heels, & while she made it look easy.

  97. 97.

    BC in Illinois

    @Tenar Arha:

    You beat me. I had just linked to the Miss America clip, [ President Trump: America’s S**ttiest Miss America Contestant: The Daily Show ] when I saw your comment. She will do fine at the WHCD. And she can comment on why Trump didn’t show up.

  99. 99.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Baud: That’s the genius of The Establishment. They make the super wicked large number of insurgent supporters so dispirited that they don’t know their own strength. Also The Establishment says mean things in private emails.

  101. 101.

    WereBear

    In case of topical interest, I got the Billy Graham bio, The Prince of War: Billy Graham’s Crusade for a Wholly Christian Empire. Well written, fascinating, and lowering my already low opinion with every page.

    Only $6 on Kindle. Indulge.

  103. 103.

    Suzanne

    @Amir Khalid:

    Trump, on the other hand, doesn’t show up even just to eat the food.

    It’s not Big Macs or KFC at the Nerd Prom. And they don’t have ice cream for dessert.

  107. 107.

    Baud

    @Gin & Tonic:

    No, that was a legitimate holy shit. Not that he would mislead, but the actual facts of what happened. Maybe I hadn’t seen it laid out like that before. I hope Mueller is looking into it. The DNC should too, in all reality, but I fear that’s politically impossible.

  110. 110.

    Suzanne

    @Kay: Spawn’s school had a walkout this week, and she (now he) participated. I asked if there was going to be any punishment, and he said, “I think my math teacher was talking about it but I couldn’t hear because I was walking out the door.” Good kid. He sent me some video, and it looked like a lot of students.

  113. 113.

    Bobby Thomson

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I minded even more because it was a major part of the ‘Democrats are denying you your birthright’ message that he STILL throws out and could not be more perfectly designed to encourage young idealists to abandon the party. It probably was specifically designed for that, but I try to be generous and believe he’s merely a useful idiot.

    He can be a useful idiot delivering a message specifically designed by others.

    Not that it matters, but I think he’s in on the con.

  114. 114.

    Bobby Thomson

    @Kay:

    He knows they’re hoping to use him to defeat Cordray and he’s doing it anyway, because it benefits Dennis Kucinich’s giant ego.

    Now who does that remind me of?

  116. 116.

    Bobby Thomson

    @WereBear:

    Looks like she is of the “punching down” school of comedy.

    Basing that on any jokes, or is that just more of that guilt by association crap that worked so well in 2016? She did a #metoo bit on The Daily Show that was solid.

  117. 117.

    HeleninEire

    You know what I want to know? T is forever tweeting “Why didn’t Obama do ‘X’ when he had a compliant Congress? ” Well I want to know why he hasn’t made abortion illegal like he promised. Haven’t heard anything about that. Evangelicals voted for him in mass numbers. If I were one of them I’d be asking that.

    Nah not really, those people are so full of shit its coming out of their ears.

    But really, why the silence? (Yeah I know why, I answered myself two sentences ago). But really he needs to be asked about that.

  118. 118.

    Elizabelle

    @Baud: Good morning, bud. Another day you have dodged extradition.

    (1) WRT the “nerd prom”: they’re not nerds, they’re sychophants. Not the same thing. Send the check to the scholarship fund and boycott the event.

    (2) I liked Amir’s comments on the PM and FTF NYTimes. Am sure he was (and is) quite the clear-eyed journalist.

  119. 119.

    Kay

    @Suzanne:

    Thanks. That’s great to hear. I’m interested in this walk out idea.

    My son has a good english teacher- all my kids had her and they all admired her. She “opened up the floor” for them to talk about the shootings last week. I happen to know she’s a liberal because it’s a small town and I’m active politically but he said she mostly listened and didn’t offer any opinions of her own. They had a student “detained” (sent to juvie for 48 hours observation) for making a threat last week, so that’s what she opened with – what did they think about that? Who should get pulled out of school for how long and based on what?

  121. 121.

    Baud

    @Elizabelle: I just hope Mueller doesn’t look to closely at Baud! 2016!

    I wish we could make Amir our official BJ news reporter. Sadly, he’s retired and we’re too cheap to pay for him anyway.

  122. 122.

    Elizabelle

    @Baud: I know. We have some serious resources here.

    Maybe Amir can make us a mix tape one of these days … always a good day when we get the view from abroad comments.

  123. 123.

    ET

    I was confused when I first saw the title of the post because THOTS can also equal those (w)hores over there. This isn’t one of those posts.

  124. 124.

    Kay

    @FlipYrWhig:

    It’s just much more PEDESTRIAN in Ohio than they’re making out. The state party leaders aren’t evil genuises. They’re this motley collection of ordinary people and they’re not even “state-wide”- there’s like the Cleveland group and the Youngstown group etc. They don’t even align region to region, let alone control one big lever.

    The Cordray thing is weird to me because Obama and Cordray are connected in Ohio. Cordray endorsed Obama early and Obama clearly values him. It seems spiteful to me, like they’re still mad at Obama.

  125. 125.

    Doug R

    @Kay:

    I don’t mind that Bernie Sanders ran on Hillary Clinton’s “corruption” – I mind that he was too cowardly to own it.

    I do mind that it was Russian propaganda.

  129. 129.

    Kay

    @Doug R:

    Everyone who was involved in the 2016 election should be called as witnesses and put under oath.

    I don’t see any other way to clear up my lingering questions and concerns. Put it on CSPAN :)

    I’m not asking a lot. I want to know what happened. I was there but apparently was not privy to “the campaign” that was operating alongside the campaign I saw.

  130. 130.

    Librarian

    The irony is that it’s Trump who is doing things that I always wanted presidents to do, like not going to the WHCD.

  134. 134.

    Aimai

    @Kay: why are you surprised? Bernie’s shtick was warmed over white working class ethnic resentment and so is kucinich’s. So nobody affiliated with elite technocratic obama coalition stuff will be welcome.

  135. 135.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Aimai: See, I’d have said it was white intellectual left-poseur-cosplay resentment pretending to have any connection to white working-class anything in precisely the same way and by precisely the same people who all at once started drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon 8 years ago.

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    J R in WV

    The headwaters of Ohio, on Shavers Fork and Cheat Mountains have some karst, not a lot. But the main stem between WV and Ohio doesn’t have much at all. Lots of clay actually, which is why there used to be a lot of brick and pottery factories in the long ago.

    Here’s a link to a WCHS photo of flooding in <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Ohio+river+flooding+Pomeroy&client=ubuntu&hs=OTM&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilqMS5lL_ZAhVr3IMKHZANDkgQ_AUICygC&biw=1293&bih=603#imgrc=1oHciiVHz2PhLM:”>Pomeroy, Ohio recently. This is a small rural river town just downstream from Ravenswood, WV. I drive through there to visit friends in Ohio often, have never personally seen the big river so big.

    Hope that complex link from Google images works OK. I’ll delete if it doesn’t

  138. 138.

    J R in WV

    @J R in WV:

    Well it works is the best that can be said for it. I don’t know how it got so buggered up looking and still links ok. Then after I posted, it took forever waiting for some facebook connection to resolve and I never got a chance to edit the ugly out of it. Sorry about that.

    But it’s amazing that the Ohio, with all the big dams in the headwater territory, which they’ve (The Army Corps of Engineers) been building since WW II ended can still get up into small bankside towns.

    The bigger towns have floodwalls, built after the 1937 flood. Poorly maintained for 80 years, I wonder if the gates will close? Guess they may find out this year.

  139. 139.

    Chet Murthy

    @Tenar Arha: Michelle Wolf! Michelle Wolf! Man, I saw her a few times on The Daily Show, and she killed. There’s a buncha CC clips of her from different shows, and it’s all grrreat. I specifically remember a series of clips of her as a used car saleman — on a lot with another guy, and their doofus boss. Loved that shit. She’s really good with the in-you-face-make-the-boys-cover-their-groins jokes, too!

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