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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Dolt 45 / Presidential Medical Shenanigans Open Thread: Hip to the HIPAA

Presidential Medical Shenanigans Open Thread: Hip to the HIPAA

by Anne Laurie|  May 1, 20188:21 pm| 77 Comments

This post is in: Dolt 45, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

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Dr. Harold Bornstein says Trump bodyguard Keith Schiller raided his office, took Trump's medical files https://t.co/ydmqTzVLpg

— Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) May 1, 2018

I tried to keep this first batch in chronological order:

WATCH: Sarah Huckabee-Sanders denies that Trump's personal doctor's offices were "raided."

"As is standard operating procedure for a new president, the White House medical unit took possession of the president's medical records." pic.twitter.com/Ikp57ItNF3

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) May 1, 2018

We now have the first version of the story from the White House about what happened in Bornstein's office. It ain't good. https://t.co/40M77KUyaC pic.twitter.com/FSA3VHrpKa

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 1, 2018

WOW! This is sounding worse and worse for Schiller and Garten. Bornstein is clearly saying he was robbed of his property (the records are his property) and they actually entered the premises w/o permission. https://t.co/40M77KUyaC pic.twitter.com/Rup6jgXdoY

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 1, 2018

Breaking: President Trump dictated 2015 letter his doctor wrote declaring him the “healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency” says letter’s author Dr. Harold Bornstein. “He dictated that whole letter. I didn't write that letter," Bornstein told CNN’s @MarquardtA

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) May 1, 2018


 
Snark & speculation run rampant!

LOL. Don't commit strong arm robbery against the doctor who lied for you… https://t.co/oNBytbKcx4

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 1, 2018

Schiller: Good news, boss. We got all your medical records.

Trump: My medical records?

Schiller: Yeah, from your doctor.

Trump: I said get the DOCTORED records, you idiots!

Schiller: Ohhhhhhhhhh, you meant Michael Cohen's office… https://t.co/4gyrWl496h

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) May 1, 2018


NYPD says they haven’t rec’d a complaint from Trump’s former doctor. Appears they would investigate if one is filed. So will the Dr. file one?

“The NYPD has not received a complaint of a crime. If and when a complaint is taken, it will be investigated appropriately

— Shimon Prokupecz (@ShimonPro) May 1, 2018

Note that in Bornstein's account there was a secretary in the medical office and a patient who supposedly witnessed this. So are others who are witnesses.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 1, 2018

Feb 2017: @realDonaldTrump has Dr’s office raided & medical records seized.

Jan 2018: Ronny Jackson “I’m not withholding anything, I have reviewed the President’s past medical records TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY’VE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO ME.”

Sounded fishy then. Sounds illegal now.

— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) May 1, 2018

CVS stills know all about the amphetamines, fellas. https://t.co/yUDa2E074y

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) May 1, 2018


 
Now, since I’m old-school, I kinda wonder if this related issue may be salient…

Getting lost but relevant to Jackson’s credibility: Trumpflakes accusing Tester of character assassination are learning the original complaint came from…

MIKE PENCE

Not Senate Dems. Mike Pence. Not recently. Last year.
Another problem Kelly concealed.https://t.co/BsQTdYjO5R

— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) May 1, 2018

… because back in the day, this kind of angry agitation over the handling of a ‘medical emergency’ was the media’s way of signaling a problem with either domestic violence or substance abuse. Which I most sincerely hope is no longer true, but…

NEWS: In private, Pence's doctor raised alarms last fall within the WH over Ronny Jackson's conduct, including allegations of aggressive and intimidating behavior – and that he may have improperly disclosed Karen Pence's private patient info. My story: https://t.co/4c6ZJ2Mekf

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) April 30, 2018

In any case, I think it’s safe to assume that Mike Pence, or the people running the Mike Pence persona, are full prepared to undercut anyone on Team “President”. So, if Pence’s people shivved Dr. Jackson, who’s next on their list?

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  1. 1.

    Elizabelle

    May 1, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    You cannot make this shit up. I mean, really.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    May 1, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    and that he may have improperly disclosed Karen Pence’s private patient info

    You mean it turns out that she is actually Mike Pence’s MOTHER?!?

  3. 3.

    lollipopguild

    May 1, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    @Corner Stone: Forget it Corner Stone it’s Trumptown.

  4. 4.

    Corner Stone

    May 1, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    If any third tier stooge needs to get the shit beaten outta them, it’s Keith Schiller.

  5. 5.

    MP

    May 1, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    I think of Mike Pence more as a simulation than a persona. It’s what would happen if you cut 90% of the processing power of Deep Blue, and then only let it watch CBN.

  6. 6.

    Corner Stone

    May 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    Between Pence pulling a power bottom move to sabotage Trump, and JarJar and Ivana Jr going full bore after Gen J “Ladies Time” Kelly, this WH is looking prime for a meeting about denuclearization on the Korean Peninsula!

  7. 7.

    Roger Moore

    May 1, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    We really dodged a bullet when it came to scandals, didn’t we.

  8. 8.

    Corner Stone

    May 1, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    @MP:

    It’s what would happen if you cut 90% of the processing power of Deep Blue, and then only let it watch CBN.

    Then implanted it into Max Headroom, muted him, and just let him shake his head sadly from side to side in response to all questions.

  9. 9.

    hellslittlestangel

    May 1, 2018 at 8:34 pm

    Drunk doctors, racists, sex workers, extorters and cheats — I’m sorry for wishing that the Deadwood series would be revived.

  10. 10.

    Platonailedit

    May 1, 2018 at 8:34 pm

    One lying shithead vs another lying shithead. Who you gonna believe?

  11. 11.

    Cheryl Rofer

    May 1, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    Elizabelle wins the internets for today. I’m gonna go read dead-tree stuff.

  12. 12.

    Quaker in a Basement

    May 1, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    Of COURSE Trump dictated that letter. Was there ever any doubt?

  13. 13.

    different-church-lady

    May 1, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    @Elizabelle: Why would anyone even want to?

  14. 14.

    JPL

    May 1, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    @Elizabelle: Truthfully, I just go to bed every night and wonder what the fk is happening, and I wake in the morning with the same thought.
    I don’t know how this ends.

  15. 15.

    different-church-lady

    May 1, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    Is there a Nobel Chaos Prize?

  16. 16.

    p.a.

    May 1, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    So, if Pence’s people shivved Dr. Jackson, who’s next on their list?

    Who cares? Pass the popcorn…
    @Corner Stone: sister? that’s not biblical, right? it would be irresponsible etc etc…

  17. 17.

    Baud

    May 1, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    @Roger Moore: Anyone who nonironically uttered “Clinton Fatigue” before the election should have their tongue ripped off.

  18. 18.

    different-church-lady

    May 1, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    @JPL:

    I don’t know how this ends.

    With our memories being wiped, I’m hoping.

  19. 19.

    Felony Govt (Formerly Old Broad in California)

    May 1, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    Must be Infrastructure Week again.

  20. 20.

    Ked

    May 1, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    WTFOMGBBQ I don’t even. I just don’t.

    Though I totally called that Trump dictated that letter originally. I mean, what were the odds that the doctor would write like Trump talks?

  21. 21.

    Baud

    May 1, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    WATCH: Sarah Huckabee-Sanders denies that Trump’s personal doctor’s offices were “raided.”

    “As is standard operating procedure for a new president, the White House medical unit took possession of the president’s medical records.” 

    Smokey Eye!

  22. 22.

    different-church-lady

    May 1, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    @p.a.: Popcorn for breakfast! Popcorn for dinner! Popcorn for brunch!! I CAN’T EAT ANY MORE POPCORN!!!

  23. 23.

    ThresherK

    May 1, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    @lollipopguild: Trumptown sounds like it’d be Toontown, but on drugs.

  24. 24.

    oatler.

    May 1, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    Surrealist Fiction just threw up its hands and said fuckitall.

  25. 25.

    Jeffro

    May 1, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    @Quaker in a Basement: I know, right? How many benefits-of-the-doubt can one lying con artist GET??

    I’m betting Trumpov pops pseudoephedrine like tic tacs…it would explain the sniffling…

  26. 26.

    Elizabelle

    May 1, 2018 at 8:47 pm

    @Baud: I know. Smokey Eye is the new Slap My Head.

    I heard that she’d said that and wondered if anyone in the press room laughed.

  27. 27.

    Dave

    May 1, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    @MP: Every once in awhile I have a moment of concern that Mike is preparing for his Republic of Gilead moment, and to be fair he probably is, then I remember he’s dumb as a stump and utterly lacks charisma. His timing is wrong.

    Ok stupid shit can obviously happen but Mike he isn’t a winner.

  28. 28.

    zhena gogolia

    May 1, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @Baud:

    Haha, of course that’s going to be a new catchphrase for “lying”! Brilliant!

  29. 29.

    Roger Moore

    May 1, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @ThresherK:

    Trumptown sounds like it’d be Toontown, but on drugs.

    It’s the second-rate Potterville knockoff.

  30. 30.

    p.a.

    May 1, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Can even trumpists be stupid enough to believe anything saying he’s the healthiest person ever to be president?

    The questions, they answer themselves. The segment of our population needing cuecards to know to breathe elected the president.

  31. 31.

    r€nato

    May 1, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Suddenly, “Trump was dumb enough to order a goon be sent to intimidate Stormy Daniels by threatening harm to her kid” sounds a lot more plausible.

  32. 32.

    NotMax

    May 1, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    Reportedly also forced him to remove a photo on the wall picturing him and Dolt 45 together.

  33. 33.

    efgoldman

    May 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    You cannot make this shit up. I mean, really.

    The script has been rejected multiple times by every producer and agent in Hollywood and New York.
    Maybe Vivid will take an option.

  34. 34.

    scott (the other one)

    May 1, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Does…does Bornstein somehow think this new confession makes him look less awful?

  35. 35.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 1, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    Gah!!!

  36. 36.

    p.a.

    May 1, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    @efgoldman: Sadly, I get the reference. Hopefully I’m one of the few in this fine virtual community who does.

  37. 37.

    p.a.

    May 1, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    @scott (the other one): Not to be ‘lookist’, but if SNL or SCTV were to skit a blue pill pusher, could they do any better than himself?

  38. 38.

    Ruckus

    May 1, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    @ThresherK:
    Not just drugs, man.
    The brown acid man, THE BROWN ACID, man……..

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    May 1, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Obviously they were all body doubles recruited and sent by Obama.

    :)

  40. 40.

    efgoldman

    May 1, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    @p.a.:

    Hopefully I’m one of the few

    Glendale Bill does.

  41. 41.

    Tenar Arha

    May 1, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    The dictated letter put this “Shocked, shocked, that there’s gambling!” clip in my head.

  42. 42.

    NotMax

    May 1, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    Quasi-obligatory.

    :)

  43. 43.

    trollhattan

    May 1, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    @Felony Govt (Formerly Old Broad in California):
    In Trump America is Infrastructure Weak.

  44. 44.

    TenguPhule

    May 1, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    You cannot make this shit up. I mean, really.

    Fiction is restricted to the believable.

  45. 45.

    LAO

    May 1, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    @Elizabelle: I find this episode to be laugh out loud funny. Bernstein is never going to shut up.

  46. 46.

    TenguPhule

    May 1, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    We really dodged a bullet when it came to scandals, didn’t we.

    Yes we did. They forgot to mention the carpet bombing which was the alternative.

  47. 47.

    Elizabelle

    May 1, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    @LAO: And I hope he does not.

    Meanwhile, somewhere Ronny Jackson is breathing a sigh of relief.

  48. 48.

    M. Bouffant

    May 1, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    @NotMax: Great flick. I remember that scene from the theater, 37 yrs. ago. (Also the topless long-shot of Julie Andrews.) And the title, S.O.B., means Standard Operating Bullshit. Which is probably what Smoky-Eyes Sarah meant, too.

  49. 49.

    Roger Moore

    May 1, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    @scott (the other one):

    Does…does Bornstein somehow think this new confession makes him look less awful?

    No, but it will help him resolve his grudge against Trump. Spite, they has it.

  50. 50.

    father pusbucket

    May 1, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    @Ked:
    To be fair, if I could believe it of any doctor, it would be that guy.

  51. 51.

    MP

    May 1, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    @Dave: He was in the process of getting drummed out of Indiana. He may get called up, but he won’t last long.

  52. 52.

    TenguPhule

    May 1, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Popcorn for breakfast! Popcorn for dinner! Popcorn for brunch!! I CAN’T EAT ANY MORE POPCORN!!!

    My liver isn’t going to make it through this hostile occupation by Republicans.

  53. 53.

    jonas

    May 1, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    IANAL and all that, but if Trump’s goons were in Bornstein’s office going through patient info looking for their boss’s files, isn’t that all kinds of felony patient privacy violation? Every patient in that practice could potentially sue Trump for violating their privacy protection, I’m guessing.

  54. 54.

    jonas

    May 1, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @Corner Stone: I forget if it was here or over at TPM someone was speculating that whoever threatened Stormy Daniels was probably some goon in Schiller’s employ.

  55. 55.

    efgoldman

    May 1, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @jonas:

    isn’t that all kinds of felony patient privacy violation?

    Like seventeen year old boys, they’re sure they’re invulnerable.

  56. 56.

    TenguPhule

    May 1, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    @jonas: The sketch bore an eerie resemblance to Trump’s former chief bodyguard.

  57. 57.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 1, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    @p.a.: (Raises hand)

  58. 58.

    lollipopguild

    May 1, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    @ThresherK: Only the best drugs for GodEmperor Trump.

  59. 59.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 1, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    @efgoldman: Heh, you’re correct.

  60. 60.

    jonas

    May 1, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @Baud: Remember when a gang of Nation of Islam guys burst into the practice of Obama’s Chicago-area GP and seized his records? As they left, one of them stood in the doorway, adjusted his bow tie, peeled a couple of 20s off a thick roll of bills, tossed them at the receptionist, and told her “sorry for your trouble, ma’am. Just taking possession of the President’s medical records — which is standard procedure. And you didn’t see nuthin’!”

  61. 61.

    Delia

    May 1, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    I thought Bornstein was being played by Tommy Chong. At least I hoped he was.

  62. 62.

    frosty

    May 1, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @p.a.: Vivid, Vivid …. nope, never heard of ’em.

  63. 63.

    efgoldman

    May 1, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Heh, you’re correct.

    More than astronomy going on out there

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    May 1, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I’ve been wondering whether a whole nation could win a Darwin Award. Not even sure that’s a category.

  65. 65.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    May 1, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    And what amazes me is how doggedly his asskissing fans cling to this guy’s rectum. I know a few of these people. When the inevitable e-mails between Manbaby and Putin show up in which Spanky swears everlasting fealty to his Russian master, these people aren’t going to care. He’s still pulling in 35-40%. It seems likely to me that roughly a third of that is going to peel away as proof of Manbaby’s further all-around shittiness oozes out into the sight of the public, and that would leave, if you’re counting, with about 27%. That magic 27%. I don’t think these people will ever give up on him. He could plead the Fifth Amendment and then abandon his office and flee to Russia and they’ll still put up shrines to him in their homes.

  66. 66.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 1, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @efgoldman: No astronomy here today, got a thick cloud deck. Anyway the moon(it’s in the sky and bright when the Milky Way has risen) is not being cooperative for Milky Way shooting.

  67. 67.

    p.a.

    May 1, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: @frosty: @efgoldman:
    Remember the old days when ‘big budget pR0n’ meant there was actually a pizza in the box?
    uhh… pizza box… ?

  68. 68.

    japa21

    May 1, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    So if the WH knew about the Dr. Ronny stuff a year ago, makes the results of the physical and the laudatory explanation all the more understandable. They were blackmailing him to make him say those things.

  69. 69.

    efgoldman

    May 1, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    @p.a.:

    when ‘big budget pR0n’ meant there was actually a pizza in the box?

    And the plumber actually carried real. metal…. umm…… tools?

  70. 70.

    Doug G

    May 1, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    @MP: God, this gets all the upvotes! Brilliantly done, with a combination of technological facility and religion-snark. I may steal this, but with attribution – I have a private FB group that will get a kick out of your excellent explanation.

  71. 71.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    YouTube’s guitar folk are all wee-weed up* today over iconic guitarmaker Gibson Brands filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Nobody is really surprised that CEO and biggest shareholder Henry Juskiewiczs’ bonkers diversification strategy came to this, but everyone haz a sad.

    *Brilliant phrase; a hat tip to the guy who first used it.

  72. 72.

    luc

    May 1, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    I hope there are no other docs in the country as dumb as this one.

  73. 73.

    sukabi

    May 1, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    @Baud: with rusty pliers.

  74. 74.

    No Drought No More

    May 1, 2018 at 11:19 pm

    I’m more concerned with Trump’s dental records. At this point they’re more apt to come into play, assuming the man takes the honorable way out and splatters his own brains against the Oval Office walls. Where are those dental records, and how can we be certain they truly are his?

    Wide awake Americans- even those inclined to believe that Ken Lay is really dead- will want to know the answer, too, if only to play it safe..

  75. 75.

    tamiasmin

    May 2, 2018 at 1:46 am

    @No Drought No More:

    Where are those dental records, and how can we be certain they truly are his?

    ”As the President’s longtime dentist, I can assure the world that he has the finest, strongest teeth any human being has ever possessed. Believe me, his incisors could tear the ass off a rabid raccoon.”—John Henry ”Doc” Holliday

  76. 76.

    prostratedragon

    May 2, 2018 at 3:59 am

    @japa21: Dr. Bornstein always did look to me like the kind of Louis Cyphre that Trump’s “dark powers” would be able to conjure up.

  77. 77.

    low-tech cyclist

    May 2, 2018 at 8:45 am

    My favorite tweet to come out of this:

    This is the problem with American healthcare. Every time you want to switch doctors, you have to hire two goons and a lawyer to steal your medical records and threaten to beat up your old doctor if he snitches to the media. It’s a big pain in the ass.

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