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You are here: Home / Pet Blogging / Dog Blogging / Cloud Compass Canoeing

Cloud Compass Canoeing

by Betty Cracker|  November 12, 20185:55 pm| 113 Comments

This post is in: Dog Blogging, Domestic Politics, Open Threads, General Stupidity

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If not for the bow, it would be impossible to say which was the sky and which the reflection.

Also, Badger naps dangerously:

I don’t voluntarily sleep with my nose in such close proximity to Daisy’s ass. She’s a gassy critter.

This thread doesn’t have to be about dog farts. Use your imagination — open thread!

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  1. 1.

    Kayla Rudbek

    November 12, 2018 at 5:59 pm

    PSA: check your credit cards for unauthorized charges. I just caught one supposedly from the Apple Online Store that was charged November 8. Not in _that_ dollar amount, and not showing up in my Apple ID purchase record! So I had a fun time with Apple and the credit card company this afternoon.

  2. 2.

    germy

    November 12, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    Roger Stone associate expects to be charged in Mueller probe

    An associate of longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone says he expects to be indicted by a federal grand jury in the special counsel’s Russia investigation.

    Conservative conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi said on his YouTube show Monday that negotiations fell apart with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team and he expects to be charged with making false statements in the coming days.

    http://www.startribune.com/roger-stone-associate-expects-to-be-charged-in-mueller-probe/500316162/

  3. 3.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 12, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    The view from your window is awesome. I miss being close to water.

  4. 4.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 12, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    This thread doesn’t have to be about dog farts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_FOS1GvZOY

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 12, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    is it raining in DC today?

    lori montgomery @ loriamontgomery
    No Arlington Cemetery on Veterans Day.

    Josh Dawsey @ jdawsey1
    A lid at 10 AM. Trump will have no movements today, per White House.

  6. 6.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 12, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    Happy to report that the blue wave is still going strong. As Trump said, it’s a total victory — for Democrats.

  7. 7.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 12, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Trump will have no movements today,

    That’s way too much information

  8. 8.

    Yarrow

    November 12, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Trump will have no movements today,

    Gross. TMI.

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    November 12, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: He’s just slightly fuller of shit than usual.

  10. 10.

    Cowgirl in the Sandi

    November 12, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    That is a beautiful picture!!

  11. 11.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 12, 2018 at 6:17 pm

    Nice canoe pic Betty. Kinda reminds me of the Boundary Waters.

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    November 12, 2018 at 6:20 pm

    Broadway tune rattling around in the recesses of the brainpan since your move to the netherswamp.

    :)

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 12, 2018 at 6:22 pm

    We had our 2nd measurable snow of the season today. Just an inch and a half, but it gives me hope that we may have an actual real honest to dawg winter this year.

  14. 14.

    debbie

    November 12, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Please keep it to your area. I would like a winter of zero snow and ice.

  15. 15.

    J R in WV

    November 12, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    This thread doesn’t have to be about dog farts. Use your imagination

    Wait, it can be about farts!

    My “work station” for Balloon Juice and the innertubes is in our library, and there’s a dog bed right behind my right shoulder. Sometimes a kitty, sometimes one of the lab mix dogs.

    Alice (in Wonderland) our most recent rescue frequently lies just behind my shoulder, and silently emits the most wonderously terrible fumes evah, evah! And there she is at the front door!

    Gasp! She is so sweet, but oh, that smell!

  16. 16.

    cope

    November 12, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Easier to spot gators when the water is that flat.

    “…voluntarily…”, ho ho, hee hee, I see what you did there. Our older, more gaseous Catahoula typically winds himself around in our bed to where his South bound end is adjacent to my North bound end. Typically, this happens after I have fallen asleep so that I am likely to be awakened by a message to turn the ceiling fan on higher.

  17. 17.

    MazeDancer

    November 12, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Write PostCards for the Runoffs!

    Have addresses for Mike Espy for Senate in Mississippi. Runoff is November 27th

    And a great Secretary of State Candidate in Louisiana – Gwen Collins-Greenup. She spent $1600 on her campaign. Almost tied with the “Interim Secretary of State” GOP incumbent. (Interim because the actual SoS resigned due to sexual harassment charges). Runoff Dec 8th.

    Secretary of State is key to the future.

    Turnout is key to both. Those GOP voters might not show-up.

    PostCardPatriots.com
    Click “Write for Runoffs”

    And, yes, thread spamming is back for a few more weeks.

  18. 18.

    JaySinWA

    November 12, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    @germy: As one twitterer remarked it is not safe to take Corsi at his word, including about immanent indictment on perjury. OTOH I believe his lawyers have been talking to the Mueller group recently.

  19. 19.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 12, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    I like this idea

    NPR Politics @ nprpolitics
    House Democrats say their first bill after taking power would establish automatic voter registration and reinvigorate the Voting Rights Act.

  20. 20.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 12, 2018 at 6:33 pm

    @debbie: The past 2 winters were almost devoid of snow with a couple of ice storms, none of which took out the electricity. We did have one bout of below zero weather for about a week last year but I need winter. Even if it hurts my old bones and joints a little more, that bite in the air let’s me know the seasons still turn and makes me feel alive.

    It also cuts back on the ticks come spring.

  21. 21.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 12, 2018 at 6:38 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Voting rights need to be front and center. Make the GOP own their suppression efforts.

  22. 22.

    Yarrow

    November 12, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    Just in case anyone missed it:

    The @HoustonChron latest on Jared Woodfill, the former Harris County GOP chair whose law office was raided today. w/ @chrondigger https://t.co/ILPztQdkFl— Robert Downen (@RobDownenChron) November 12, 2018

    Harris County is the largest county in Texas and where Houston is.

  23. 23.

    JaySinWA

    November 12, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    oh, that smell!

    I believe there’s a song about that. Well not quite that.
    http://www.metrolyrics.com/that-smell-lyrics-lynyrd-skynyrd.html

  24. 24.

    NotMax

    November 12, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    Was extremely skeptical about a recipe found online for shrimp scampi in the Instant Pot, as it called for a total time of cooking at pressure of 1 minute. Tried it out last night using 2 pounds of frozen, peeled, raw shrimp (as suggested) and glory be, it worked.

  25. 25.

    burnspbesq

    November 12, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    @germy:

    Que fucking lastima.

    I will be quite disappointed if Mueller doesn’t indict Assange for conspiring with Stone, Corsi, et al.

  26. 26.

    Aardvark Cheeselog

    November 12, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    When I was really little our family had a dachshund/terrier cross. We took him on long car trips, and some of his farts in the car were downright deadly.

  27. 27.

    different-church-lady

    November 12, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    Pssst: the sky is the one on top.

  28. 28.

    different-church-lady

    November 12, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek: Running a small charge on-line is a common method for scammers to test a made-up credit card number. If the charge goes through, they will make a fake physical card with that number.

  29. 29.

    rikyrah

    November 12, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) Tweeted:
    House Dems’ opening salvo includes an ambitious set of democratizing priorities: restoring the voting rights act, reducing barriers to voting and reducing the role of big money in our elections. Their proposed first bill:

    https://t.co/3VDZsmsX7Z https://t.co/45C11in1MW https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1062073107563905025?s=17

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    November 12, 2018 at 6:51 pm

    @burnspbesq:
    Assange should be under sealed indictment that pre-dates Mueller.

  31. 31.

    burnspbesq

    November 12, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    Cisneros and Porter continue to trail in CA-39 and CA-45, but as long as the number of uncounted ballots exceeds the margin, there is still hope.

  32. 32.

    burnspbesq

    November 12, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    @rikyrah:

    If the Swedes want to reopen their investigation, I would let them have first crack at him.

  33. 33.

    pinacacci

    November 12, 2018 at 6:55 pm

    Aw Betty, what a beautiful place you’ve chosen. Lovely canoe pic.

  34. 34.

    debbie

    November 12, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Hope you get all the cold you want and that it skirts south of here! We’re supposed to get about an inch of something here overnight, but they keep switching back and forth between snow, snow and rain, and rain.

  35. 35.

    J R in WV

    November 12, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Thanks for that tip… I go over the statement every month, so far, so good. Now I’ll pay more attention to the small stuff.

  36. 36.

    lamh36

    November 12, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    Evening BJ.

    I had a two day adventure in the ER this weekend. All I wanted to do was enjoy a quite weekend, but instead I ended up in the same ER on Saturday and Sunday.

    Late Friday, I started experiencing light chest pain, by Saturday morning, the pain was more intense. I figured it was just another bout of esophageal spasming (I’ve had it before) brought on by something I hate late Friday. But the pain was getting worse, and not alleviated by OTC meds. So I went to ER. They asked me questions, took some blood, the male doctor checked my chest once, and they did an EKG. The EKG came back normal, and the blood work was normal. They discharged me and diagnosed me with “chest pain of unknown origin” and told me to take OTC Tylenol or Motrin for the pain and follow up with my PCP.

    So, I went home. The pain continued even after taking Tylenol once and then Motrin next, just so I could maybe get some sleep. The pain worsened and now not only was my chest hurting, but by the nighttime the pain started to switch between my chest and upper back, and it began to hurt when I breathe or moved or coughed…etc. I couldn’t take the pain any more so I returned to the ER Sunday early morning.

    This time I had a female doc, she actually did an entire exam, including checking my chest and breathing. She explained to me every step she was taking and why and what she was looking for and why. This time, I had an X-Ray, blood work to screen for DVT, and a CT SCAN to screen for abdominal/lung issues. She also authorized an IV drip for pain meds to alleviate the chest pain I was having. An all together better experience than the day before.

    After all test were run, found that my heart and lungs were good, and my upper adominal cavity were good. No DVT or blood clots, and no heart attack. Ultimately she believes it probably something I ate or something I did that cause the muslces in my chest to contract and spasm. Good news, no life threatening conditions. The bad news, chest pain.

    I left with 3 prescriptions, 2 for pain (to take morning and night) and 1 prescription strength Zantac for control my reflux reactions until, the muslce spasms stopped and healed on their own.

    The pain was still there this morning, but manageable, and less painful than before. It’s probably be good if I could take some days off from work, but I dont’ have the sick leave…so I’ve got to to work, but thanks to the pain meds, the pain was way more manageable than the beginning of this weekend.

    Anyway, it mostly all good now…just hoping the pain continues to get less and less intense.

    Soooo…how was ya’ll weekend?

  37. 37.

    tobie

    November 12, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    These days, I envy a dog’s life, head placement while napping notwithstanding. To dream of nothing but fetching balls and finding rabbit holes, and having the reassurance that your food and water bowl will be filled whenever you need it. What bliss.

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 12, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    In the early hours of Sunday morning, 26-year-old Jemel Roberson was working security at a bar in the Chicago suburbs when a shooting broke out. Shortly after Roberson subdued the suspect at gunpoint, police arrived — and fatally shot the armed security guard as he pinned the suspect to the ground.

    Roberson was working at Manny’s Blue Room Bar, in Robbins, Illinois, when security personnel asked a group of men to leave following an argument. Soon after, at least one man returned to the bar and began shooting, injuring some of the people in the bar. Security returned fire and Roberson detained the man.

    Roberson “had somebody on the ground with his knee in back, with his gun in his back, like, ‘Don’t move,’” witness Adam Harris told local news outlet WGN.

    When police arrived, an officer immediately opened fire, killing Roberson, as witnesses told them to stop. “Everybody was screaming out, ‘Security!’ He was a security guard,” Harris said.

  39. 39.

    chris

    November 12, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    @Yarrow: He seems nice. Via Juanita Jean herownself who says regarding today’s news, “This could be fun.”

  40. 40.

    A Ghost To Most

    November 12, 2018 at 7:03 pm


    Wave cloud over the Front Range last week

  41. 41.

    MomSense

    November 12, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    @lamh36:

    I’m sorry to hear that happened to you. I’m really glad you got a thorough exam. Don’t be stoic or think you are overreacting. If you feel concerned, go get checked out again. Hope you feel better.

  42. 42.

    Platonailedit

    November 12, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    @MazeDancer:

    Thread spamming? Considering all kindsa garbage posted here, this is pure gold.

    Come on MI.
    Go AZ. SecState is the cherry.
    Fuck MO & ND.

  43. 43.

    LuciaMia

    November 12, 2018 at 7:06 pm

    Thing I loved about my dogs when they let one go…Their head would whip around and stare at their butt all shocked, like “What the heck was that??”

  44. 44.

    J R in WV

    November 12, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Wow, a great reveal of the GOP in TX… low lying thief in charge!!

    Thanks.

    Noticed the Chron now provides multiple languages for its stories, Chinese, Urdu, Vietnamese, Spanish, where’s that from? Pretty good, v. cosmopolitan.

  45. 45.

    SH121

    November 12, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    Florida Heads or Tails?

  46. 46.

    Yarrow

    November 12, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    @lamh36: Yikes! Glad you’re mostly okay. What a terrible way to spend your weekend. Esophageal spasms can be really painful and are related to acid reflux. Hope the Zantac helps. Get as much rest as you can and keep us posted on how it’s going.

  47. 47.

    JaySinWA

    November 12, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    Okay, the police investigate a real break in and actual theft, but the naked guy who brings his own food steals the headline?
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/naked-florida-man-revealed-on-video-sneaking-into-restaurant-and-munching-on-ramen-20181112/

  48. 48.

    RedDirtGirl

    November 12, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    Not sure it has been mentioned, but postcardpatriots dot com is still at it, for run-off votes that are coming up. Just got a list for Louisiana Sec State candidate.

  49. 49.

    Yarrow

    November 12, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    @chris: Oh, yeah. he’s a real piece of work.

  50. 50.

    zhena gogolia

    November 12, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    @lamh36:

    Wow, that’s terrible. I hope you continue to improve rapidly.

  51. 51.

    tobie

    November 12, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    @lamh36: Glad to hear it’s nothing too serious. Chest pains are frightening. Take care of yourself, and if you can, take some time off.

  52. 52.

    Kathleen

    November 12, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    @lamh36: Yikes! So sorry you had to deal with that. Glad to hear your foundation is sound and hope you are pain free very soon.

  53. 53.

    BruceFromOhio

    November 12, 2018 at 7:30 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Woodfill is the subject of two separate formal complaints — one to the State Bar of Texas and the other to the Houston Police Department. In both complaints, Woodfill is accused of taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from clients’ trust accounts.

    Umm hmm. Please, tell me more.

    This story will be updated.

    I’m certain of that.

  54. 54.

    Mnemosyne

    November 12, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    @lamh36:

    Yikes! Had you been fighting off a cold before that? I’ve had a fun bout with pleurisy the past couple of weeks, which is when a cold virus decides to wander and causes an inflammation between your lungs and your chest wall. I’m assuming the doc checked for that — it apparently makes a very characteristic scraping sound when they listen through the stethoscope. Feel better!

  55. 55.

    Ohio Mom

    November 12, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @lamh36: Ugh. Reflux. You might want to follow up with a Gastroenterologist. That stuff can do a lot of damage over the long haul.

  56. 56.

    Schlemazel

    November 12, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    @lamh36:
    Well I hope that does not go on any longer. The good news is you know your heart is sound but that does not make it less painful. Are you going to continue to pursue the cause with more visits? It seems like something worth at leat looking into

  57. 57.

    Mary G

    November 12, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    I can't believe this commercial that just ran on Fox News is for real pic.twitter.com/gGInt8BKhp— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 12, 2018

    Only 2 low payments of $19.99!

  58. 58.

    JPL

    November 12, 2018 at 7:38 pm

    Betty, The first picture is amazing, but I still worry about badger being an suburban kinda dog. He’s not ready to be gator bait.

    @lamh36: Wow definitely scary, but I hope you’re on the mend.

  59. 59.

    Mai Naem mobile

    November 12, 2018 at 7:38 pm

    Sinema is up 38k with the latest vote drop. Vast majority of votes left are in Maricopa county(metro Phoenix+) where Mcsally has been underperforming. AZ SOS has the Dem up very slightly. If Sinema csn expand the lead to over 40k tomorrow I believe a lot of media will call the race for Sinema.

  60. 60.

    J R in WV

    November 12, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    And the next story someone linked to is a right-wing theocratic monster trying to maintain prejudice against the LGBQT community, who rapes youngsters who come to him for prayer. For years.

    In Houston, also too!!

    Color me not amazed. Not shocked. As a comment on the Houston Chron article said, the people who hate the LGBTQ community are going to be messed up in other ways, like pedophilia, theft, something, something.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    November 12, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    @Mary G: You pay for a teddy that is unsafe for children under twelve and is made in China. The flag is pulled out of a butt and the only question first is do you sniff it before you wrap it around you. ick.

  62. 62.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 12, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Trump will have no movements today

    TMI.

  63. 63.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 12, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: And they can pass it when they take over the White House and Senate in 2020. Perfect.

  64. 64.

    Mai Naem mobile

    November 12, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    AP just called the race for Sinema. Senator Sinema . Trumpov’s going to blow his stack.

  65. 65.

    Shana

    November 12, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s raining now but it didn’t start until about 5pm

  66. 66.

    Platonailedit

    November 12, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile: @Mai Naem mobile:

    With 5/8 dems for congress, AZ has officially switched from purple to blue?

  67. 67.

    gene108

    November 12, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek:

    I got a text from Wells Fargo about a $1.14 charge someone made an hour or so earlier.

    Called them back. They are terminated my old card and are issuing a new one.

    I wouldn’t have caught it so quickly.

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    November 12, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    Kyrsten Sinema wins in Arizona as Democrats capture a longtime GOP Senate seat
    By Washington Post Staff
    November 12 at 7:47 PM
    Rep. Sinema narrowly edged out Republican Rep. Martha McSally in the open-seat race, the Associated Press projected. Sinema will replace retiring Sen. Jeff Flake (R). Sinema’s win narrows the GOP majority in the Senate to 51-47.

    Two other races remain unresolved, the close contest in Florida between Gov. Rick Scott (R) and Sen. Bill Nelson (D) and a Nov. 27 runoff in Mississippi, pitting appointed Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith against Democrat Mike Espy.
    This is a developing story. It will be updated.

  69. 69.

    piratedan

    November 12, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    @Platonailedit: still gerrymandered to hell and back at the state level, but we’re making inroads… If Hobbs holds on at the SOS election, at least the polling places should increase and not be screwed with as they are with the GOP.

  70. 70.

    Redshift

    November 12, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    is it raining in DC today?

    Rain wasn’t even predicted until mid to late afternoon, which is when it happened. This lends more credence to the theory that Trump skipped Veterans Day/Armistice events both in France and here because he was being pissy about not getting his big military parade on Veterans Day, and rain was the least embarrassing excuse they could come up with.

  71. 71.

    sukabi

    November 12, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: he’s missed or been late to a bunch of stuff in the last couple of days…

  72. 72.

    Platonailedit

    November 12, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    Martha McSally says in a new video that she just called and conceded to Kyrsten Sinema. https://t.co/hzcRODCsbG— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 13, 2018

  73. 73.

    Yarrow

    November 12, 2018 at 7:53 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile: He’s going to blow his stack about that. And this:

    JUST IN: DOJ says Acting Attorney General Whitaker will consult with senior ethics officials at DOJ about possible recusal in Special Counsel investigation. DOJ Spox Kerri Kupec says, pic.twitter.com/19ej569Ne2— Paula Reid (@PaulaReidCBS) November 13, 2018

    LOL. Trump only wanted Whitaker there to get the dirt on the Special Counsel Investigation and/or get rid of Mueller. Sorry! Tick tock, motherfuckers!

  74. 74.

    burnspbesq

    November 12, 2018 at 7:54 pm

    The theme for Dems in the next Congress is to put McConnell on the spot, early and often. Force him to kill perfectly reasonable legislative initiatives. Force Republicans to publicly fuck the voters, and keep reminding the voters which party did the deed.

  75. 75.

    Kathleen

    November 12, 2018 at 7:54 pm

    Deleted. WaterGirl beat me to it!

  76. 76.

    Schlemazel

    November 12, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:
    From the National Lampoon “White House Basement Tapes” album
    The WHite House issued a list of the Presidents movements today
    Monday: Nothing
    Tuesday: Nothing
    Wednesday: good one, some blood

    Also, Billy Graham at the swearing out ceremony
    “Richard Nixon, you son of a bitch. You lied your ass off. Fuck off!”

  77. 77.

    Corner Stone

    November 12, 2018 at 8:02 pm

    I could be wrong be it sounded to me like Tweety on MSNBC just said the D party should stop encouraging educated whites to vote for them.

  78. 78.

    Jay

    November 12, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    Much missed Casey was my favourite fart dog.

    She would be lying there asleep, suddenly wake up, give us the stink eye, and walk away. Several moments later, we would have to clear the room.

  79. 79.

    Cheryl Rofer

    November 12, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    Here’s the McSally concession speech

    Congrats to @kyrstensinema. I wish her success. I’m grateful to all those who supported me in this journey. I’m inspired by Arizonans’ spirit and our state’s best days are ahead of us. pic.twitter.com/tw0uKgi3oO

    — McSally For Senate (@MarthaMcSally) November 13, 2018

  80. 80.

    lamh36

    November 12, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I haven’t had a cold in a while, but I was feeling a bit off the past week and i had some blood work done bout 2 weeks ago and I had elevated lymph counts and inflammation which could indicate a viral infection, but I didn’t have any weird viral like symptoms.

    I feel better already just having the pain stop…like I said, if I had the time off I needed, I’d take a few days off to recoup, but I don’t (thx alot Australia and London…LOL) so I’m just coping. I did explain it to my boss though, and she said it’s ok if I leave early this week when if I finish my worklist and start to feel too uncomfortable

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    gene108

    November 12, 2018 at 8:05 pm

    @lamh36:

    Glad it is nothing serious. Hope you stay on the mend.

  82. 82.

    Baud

    November 12, 2018 at 8:05 pm

    Sinema deserves a lot of praise even though she wasn’t one of those hot up-and-coming progressives people were excited about.

  83. 83.

    lamh36

    November 12, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    @Schlemazel: I’m def gonna look into a GI doc. I like my PCP, but I prefer seeing a specialist

  84. 84.

    Cheryl Rofer

    November 12, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    As long as I’ve served Arizona, I’ve worked to help others see our common humanity & find common ground. That’s the same approach I’ll take to representing our great state in the Senate, where I’ll be an independent voice for all Arizonans.

    Thank you, Arizona. Let’s get to work. pic.twitter.com/iX6u6VQ9bQ

    — Kyrsten Sinema (@kyrstensinema) November 13, 2018

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    chris

    November 12, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    @Corner Stone: You’re not wrong. I turned MSNBC on too early, cannot abide that man.

  86. 86.

    Kayla Rudbek

    November 12, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    @gene108: yes, I’m a bit surprised that USAA didn’t catch this as being unusually large/uncharacteristic for me.

  87. 87.

    Mary G

    November 12, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Beautiful dog.

  88. 88.

    WaterGirl

    November 12, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: I keep hearing that she expects to be appointed to the seat currently held by Kyl. Any idea whether that is accurate?

  89. 89.

    PsiFighter37

    November 12, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    Congrats to Sinema, and fuck the Green Party for making it closer than it should have been (as they always do). I always thought that this would have been Gabby Giffords’ seat had the events of 2011 not transpired, but I’m glad to see that Arizona Democrats have finally gotten over the hump for a statewide race. It looks like we also got Secretary of State and Education Commissioner as well.

    We also took McSally’s House seat back as well – which is great news.

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    piratedan

    November 12, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: well lets see….. McSally essentially accused her of treason, being a tutu wearing whackaloon, supporting sex offenders, and supporting ….. Sanctuary Cites (cue dramatic DAUNT_DAUNT_DAHHHHH))))))))))), it was gracious of McSally to congratulate Sinema on a hard fought campaign, which essentially ran on three notes, health care, Sinema being willing to be bipartisan depending upon the issue and McSally lying about her HC votes and exactly who Sinema was and said and did….

    It was an UGLY campaign and like everyone else, I really get tired of seeing nightly character assassination ads and would really like to see campaigns about policy but I guess we’ve been trained to ignore those people as being not-serious….

  91. 91.

    Jay

    November 12, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    “The revelation that Dominic Raab had not until now “quite understood” the UK’s reliance on the Dover-Calais crossing for goods trade between the UK and the EU has attracted widespread criticism and understandable mockery. It is indeed shocking that the Cabinet Minister in charge of Brexit should only now grasp something so basic to his brief. Yet it is not surprising. It is part of a pattern of ignorance for which there is plenty of evidence – including Raab’s own bemusement (prior to his current role, but after years of campaigning for hard Brexit) that leaving the customs union would increase bureaucracy.

    It would be wrong to single out Raab. Scratch the surface of just about any prominent Brexiter and the same kinds of ignorance are revealed. It’s perfectly understandable and reasonable that no one, on any side of the debate, has anything like a comprehensive knowledge of Brexit and its effects – it is just too huge and hydra-headed a phenomenon for that to be possible. But it’s not at all unreasonable to expect politicians – who, after all, have access to numerous resources, including the excellent House of Commons Library briefings – to understand the core, basic issues of what they argue for. Especially when that is so fundamental and total a shift in national history as Brexit.”

    http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2018/11/ignorance-and-irresponsibility-continue.html?m=1

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    Cheryl Rofer

    November 12, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    @WaterGirl: I see it all over Twitter, would not be surprised if it’s true, but don’t know any more than that. The national Republican Party (or Trump, if there’s a difference) may be irritated with her because they wanted her to go full-up conspiracy, as Trump’s tweets have done. Instead, she acted like a gracious professional. Hard to say how much influence they have with the governor.

    ETA: I had not seen piratedan’s comment and didn’t follow the Arizona race that closely. But she did act like a gracious professional as the votes were being counted, so that may irritate the national party.

  93. 93.

    lgerard

    November 12, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    @Platonailedit:

    With 5/8 dems for congress, AZ has officially switched from purple to blue

    Amazingly, conspiracy nut Paul Gosar, who had is entire family campaign against him still won easily. WTF!

  94. 94.

    Mary G

    November 12, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    As the lead recount lawyer for Senator Nelson, I need your help! If you are a lawyer, please sign up. Otherwise, please share. https://t.co/rP57TVXYQt— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) November 12, 2018

  95. 95.

    Yarrow

    November 12, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    @Corner Stone: Then Tweety’s an idiot. The smart people are already voting Dem:

    Wow. In 1992, Republicans still held half of the 30 House districts with the highest level of educational attainment. Now they hold just two. Two out of 30. (via WSJ) pic.twitter.com/oeaWxWLRja— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) November 12, 2018

  96. 96.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 12, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    @germy: So sad!! Poor Corsi. It’s such a shame when your lies catch up with you.

  97. 97.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 12, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    @lamh36: Wow. I’m glad that story has what’s more or less a happy ending, at least so far.

  98. 98.

    Platonailedit

    November 12, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    Canadian intelligence has heard an audio recording of the killing of the Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has confirmed.

    “Canada has been fully briefed up on what Turkey had to share,” he said.

    Mr Trudeau is the first Western leader to confirm his country has listened to the purported tape of the murder at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.

    Turkey’s president said on Saturday that he had given copies to the US, UK, Germany, France and Saudi Arabia.

    “We gave them the tapes,” Recep Tayyip Erdogan told reporters before flying to Paris for a gathering of world leaders commemorating the 100th anniversary of the end of World War One. “They’ve also listened to the conversations, they know it.”

    However, the US has not said whether it has received a tape and France’s foreign minister has said it is not in possession of one as far as he is aware.

  99. 99.

    Mike in NC

    November 12, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    With these latest reports about the Arizona Senate race and possible recusal by acting AG Whitaker, Fat Bastard will be rage tweeting at 3 AM tomorrow.

  100. 100.

    Raven

    November 12, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    We’ve been watching Living in the Material World about George and the Beatles so I just read that that scumbag motherfucker Corsi looks to be on the block. YES!!

  101. 101.

    Gelfling 545

    November 12, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    @lamh36: Just for good measure, have them take a look at your gallbladder. Turns out gallbladder attack pain can mimic heart attack. Three useless trips to the ER for chest pain in 3 years with no result. On the 4th a doctor with some curiosity discovered gallstones. The nurse told me the same had happened to her. She said, “For some reason they never think of the gallbladder.”

  102. 102.

    R-Jud

    November 12, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    This thread is old and long and Veterans’ Day is almost over, but I wrote about my grandparents and the GI Bill anyway.

  103. 103.

    Schlemazel

    November 12, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    @lamh36:
    YUP! Not all doctors are good at all things so never be afraid to ask a different one.

  104. 104.

    Kathleen

    November 12, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    OT regarding previous speculation about Sherrod Brown Presidential bid, there is this tweet from Connie Scultz:

    We’re thinking about it. (@ConnieSchultz)

    Link to thread:
    https://twitter.com/ConnieSchultz/status/1062009289429209088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fap_politics%2Fstatus%2F1062143663835353089

  105. 105.

    chris

    November 12, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    Haha, it’s true, everything Trump touches dies.

    So after all of Trump’s gleefulness about how he personally hounded Jeff Flake out of office, Republicans ended up losing Flake’s seat.— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) 13 November 2018

  106. 106.

    piratedan

    November 12, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    @lgerard: that district is heavily rural/small town based, so Gosar’s schtick plays well there, plus its also heavily Mormon and they tend to vote GOP (see Flake, Jeff). I think the largest town in his district is Prescott (roughly 50k) or perhaps

    Also includes Lake Havasu City and Kingman, heavy rural ranch and retiree population there, real uphill battle to connect with those folks…..

  107. 107.

    Mai Naem mobile

    November 12, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: I know people think Sinema is more blue dog than she can afford to be in this state but she ran a damn good campaign. I think she could have been more to the left for her congressional seat but she was always looking to run for the Senate seat. She is a good politician and I wouldn’t be surprised if she ends up being on a presidential ticket or a cabinet position.

  108. 108.

    Mnemosyne

    November 12, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    @lamh36:

    I was wondering because it sounded a little like the lead-up to my pleurisy. But the doctors and nurses who have diagnosed me with it in the past say that there’s a very distinctive breath sound that your doctor would have mentioned. And the only “cure” is rest and Advil until it clears up, so … ?‍♀️

  109. 109.

    Tenar Arha

    November 12, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    @Mary G: I really thought that was a parody, until today.

    @lamh36: Get well soon. In the meantime, I’m very very glad you had a good careful doc the second time with better meds to manage the pain.

  110. 110.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 12, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @Raven: That’s a great video, I liked it so much I bought a copy. Also just picked up the 50th anniversary deluxe version of the White Album.

  111. 111.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 12, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    @Gelfling 545: They couldn’t figure out why Madame was having gastro issues for about a year…finally a doc decided to order an ultrasound for gallstones.

  112. 112.

    J R in WV

    November 12, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    @Gelfling 545:

    Gallbladder, my sister-in-law had hers out while still in Uni, probably like 19 or 20. Was miserable, U health service gave her ibuprofen or such, Wife went up and took her home, family doc IDs gallbladder attack in like 15 minutes. Surgery later that day. Long time ago…

  113. 113.

    Amir Khalid

    November 12, 2018 at 11:28 pm

    @Raven:
    Which Geotge would that be, Harrison or Martin?

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