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Roger Stone Pursues the Path to Martyr-dumb!

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Bless his heart…

National security correspondent Dan Murphy has the chain of transmission:

Stone has already deleted the instagram post, and, of course, thrown an employee under the bus. Long time members of the party of personal responsibility never seem to take personal responsibility…

https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1097596247156932608

To be serious here for a moment, a simple google image search for Judge Amy Berman Jackson, returns dozens of images of her. To find one with a cross hairs image or logo near her head meant that whomever went looking for an image for Stone’s post had to specifically either be looking for an image like that or trying to create one. Which is not surprising given that Stone has a long history of positing material with anti-Semitic themes or borrowing them from people and our sites that do. Here’s just one example. Also, why does it look like Rudy has a squirrel crawling around in his flight suit? Ewww!!!

In regard to Roger Stone, as they say in the south: that boy ain’t right!

This will definitely not get Judge Jackson removed from the case, but it is likely to get Federal law enforcement to overreact. Especially as some of the people who follow the conspiracy theories that Stone promotes tend to take them to heart and then take violent action as a result of them.

Though it is interesting to watch the seeming political evolution of former Congressman Joe Walsh:

Open thread!

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  2. 2.

    debbie

    This is just too childish for a man his age. I hope he’s tossed in jail for this until his trial starts.

  5. 5.

    piratedan

    i’m sure that Gabby Giffords would concur that this is nothing more than a humble surveyor’s symbol

  9. 9.

    khead

    Whoever it was here that said he wouldn’t last a week – sorry, can’t remember – needs to receive some kind of prize.

  12. 12.

    trollhattan

    Odds the particular shuttle crew is that of the Challenger?

    Is the gaslighting working, because I’m finding it harder to be appalled by their antics.

  14. 14.

    hells littlest angel

    Roger Stone always makes me wonder: How is it someone hasn’t murdered this guy decades ago?

  16. 16.

    hells littlest angel

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Why do you think Jews go to Chinese restaurants on the great American winter holiday of Christmas?

    True fact: I once heard a Chinese waiter say to a table full of Jews, “May I take your orders?”

  19. 19.

    Bill Arnold

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    … controlling the weather to destroy America.

    Now I’m confused, I thought Climate Change was a Chinese Hoax.

    Silly liberal, weather is not climate. Oh, wait.

  21. 21.

    randy khan

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Adam may have his own answer, but Stone wants to try to build a case that the judge is biased against him (although, as noted in the OP, taking affirmative steps to make the judge not like you generally doesn’t work). If she throws him in jail, then he can claim it’s a fix. (As a footnote, it appears that the Benghazi bit is because she dismissed a lawsuit by the parents of soldiers killed at Benghazi who claimed that Clinton’s use of a private email server was responsible for their deaths – which seems like close to Looney Tunes territory – and also that she had defamed them by disagreeing with their account of a meeting with her.)

    I’d add that it’s, let’s say, interesting that he’s fundraising based on her being the judge.

  22. 22.

    Wapiti

    Why, in the names of the gods, would anyone post a picture of the judge handling their case. Crosshair logo or not, that’s just flagging his followers to cause the judge grief.

  23. 23.

    germy

    Bill Weld says on CNN that one moment that made him consider challenging Trump was when Trump "shooed all the U.S. press out of the Oval Office" and brought in Amb. Kislyak and Lavrov for a summit with nobody present except TASS. "That showed contempt for the American people."— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 18, 2019

  24. 24.

    Bill Arnold

    @hells littlest angel:

    How is it someone hasn’t murdered this guy decades ago?

    Let’s put it this way; “bless his heart”, in the context of some of the enemies he has accumulated, might be more than a mild curse.

  25. 25.

    Plato

    “I don’t care, I believe Putin”
    Maybe one day we will find out how the hell a Russian agent got into the WH despite decades of criminal activity and how not one agency is intervening despite 2 years of such damage to America, at home and abroad, that some might be irreparable.
    — Olga Lautman (@olgaNYC1211) February 18, 2019

  26. 26.

    Plato

    Didn’t the totus thug attack a latino judge who was hearing one of (many) fraud cases of the thug and got him to recuse?

  27. 27.

    cckids

    @germy:

    Roger Stone has employees?

    My first thought as well. Odds are that there’s a quote from him somewhere crowing about doing his own Tweets, etc, just like his Dear Leader.

  30. 30.

    The Dangerman

    Cross hairs on a Judge? DAMN. Pretty soon they are going to be threatening SNL comics…

    …oh…

  31. 31.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Major Major Major Major: @debbie: He wants to be made a martyr. And as publicly as possible. This is all a show to Stone. Anything that brings him publicity is good. It furthers the mythology he’s created around himself and his career. He’ll fundraise off of it, which will further his grift. And it allows him to very publicly posture that he’s a political prisoner, a victim of the deep state’s ongoing coup against the President. And that allows him to keep angling for a pardon, especially now that Barr is the AG. The reason Barr is AG is because he’s the poster boy for misusing the pardon power to cover up executive branch crimes and malfeasance.

  33. 33.

    Adam L Silverman

    @germy: Yes. Like his mentor, Roy Cohn, Stone keeps a stable of young men around as proteges. They drive him around, handle his travel planning, run his various social media accounts, do his scheduling, etc.

  35. 35.

    Bill Arnold

    And, yes, the website Trump’s close friend Roger Stone is using to threaten the judge in his federal case also says the Jews are controlling the weather to destroy America.

    I continue to be saddened by the pathetic state of conspiracy theorizing on the right[1]. Humans can do climate “control”, sadly; but weather control is … hard.
    [1] The left is better. Not sure why, TBH.

  37. 37.

    Adam L Silverman

    @hells littlest angel: He’s really not worth it. Most of the myth he’s created is garbage. He’s basically a low level nuisance who has parlayed his shamelessness into a very lucrative 40 plus year long grift.

  40. 40.

    chopper

    Stone adds: “One of the people who works for me posted it but I disagree that it violates any aspect of the judges order. Because it has been misinterpreted I ordered it taken down In though everything contained was factual.”

    it wasn’t me. and even if it was, and it totally wasn’t, it was great and i totally support having done it. i mean, the other guy. yeah, the other guy.

  42. 42.

    jacy

    Appropos of nothing, Rick Wilson on Deadline Whitehouse just said, “The only thing you want to ask Stephen Miller about on TV would human taxidermy.” LOL

  43. 43.

    tobie

    @Plato:

    Maybe one day we will find out how the hell a Russian agent got into the WH

    The tweet you quoted raises the question whether one day we will learn how the US has survived this long when at least 27% of the public are MAGAT-morons? I don’t know of any developed countries where you have as many flat earthers, climate change deniers, anti-vaxxers etc. It’s more than just Floriduh man.

  46. 46.

    Adam L Silverman

    @randy khan: There were no Soldiers at Benghazi. There was a small team of private contractors, who were prior military, most of whom were killed. The simple reality of Benghazi that these folks don’t want to hear, is that unless you’d have had at least one, if not two SEAL teams on the ground in the vicinity there was no way to get help on site in time to do anything but dig out the bodies and bring them home. Maybe, maybe you might have been able to get fighters from a carrier in the Med on station above Benghazi, but all they could do was bombard the site, which would’ve killed the contractors. While I can’t speak about the Special Operations commander at Naval Air Station Rota at the time, I know and have done work for the US Army Africa/South European Task Force Commander at the time. And if there had been any way to have gotten the cavalry to Benghazi, he’d have made it happen.

  51. 51.

    The Pale Scot

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He’s really not worth it.

    He lives in NYC, right? Best way would be to tell his coke dealer that he’s thinking of ratting him out. The Santa Dominicans are/were pretty strident about that. My knowledge is twenty years out of date, somebodies else could run the ops now

  52. 52.

    MattF

    @Adam L Silverman: Mark Twain (‘Concerning the Jews‘):

    Here is an incident that is significant. Last week in Vienna a hailstorm struck the prodigious Central Cemetery and made wasteful destruction there. In the Christian part of it, according to the official figures, 621 window-panes were broken; more than 900 singing-birds were killed; five great trees and many small ones were torn to shreds and the shreds scattered far and wide by the wind; the ornamental plants and other decorations of the graves were ruined, and more than a hundred tomb-lanterns shattered; and it took the cemetery’s whole force of 300 laborers more than three days to clear away the storm’s wreckage. In the report occurs this remark – and in its italics you can hear it grit its Christian teeth “. . . lediglich die israelitische Abtheilung des Friedhofes vom Hagelwetter ganzlich verschont worden war.” Not a hailstone hit the Jewish reservation! Such nepotism makes me tired.

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I would love it if the judge had him taken to jail. I suspect that Stone would not enjoy it nearly as much as he thinks he would since the other inmates would be far more likely to ignore him or tell him to STFU than to attack him physically.

  54. 54.

    Adam L Silverman

    @hells littlest angel: Same reason no one bothered with the President before he was president. He was considered a boor and a buffoon. Worth roughing up and working over – and as I’ve stated before as a martial arts instructor, I think it is pretty clear that the President has been beaten badly facially at some point – but not worth going to prison for murder over.

  59. 59.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    @Adam L Silverman: A good friend who was a creative writing teacher prior to medical school told me he told his students “if you spell gray with an “e” you better be prepared to spell judgment with an “e” as well.”

    He’s a very gifted psychiatrist as well as one of my David Foster Wallace soulmates. (The other is a delightful commenter here).

  60. 60.

    Ladyraxterinok

    @Adam L Silverman: Rehligious Right pastor Gallops(sp?) who is often on JimBakker show claimed in a YouTube video that by means of Trump God is revealing all the depths of the ‘deep state’ and revealing it to the ‘real Americans, ie ‘true believers’.

    He said ‘good friends in Israel’ have kept him informed about the extent of ‘deep state’s and ‘fake news’ there.

    And he says in amazement ‘just think–if the other candidate had been elected we wouldn’t have learned anything at all about all this. Thanks be to God that he has chosen Trump to reveal and cleanse all this.’

    He cites an example of cleansing–SHS and T telling news reporters to leave.

    A different world.

    (I think the show G was on was rood–1st time I heard of it. Found by searching on YouTube for ‘biblical prophecy in 2019’)

  64. 64.

    Adam L Silverman

    @MattF: Most likely the real reason for no damage is that Jewish cemeteries don’t have mausoleums or chapels or elaborate monuments. Just plain old tombstones. So other than pushing the tombstones over and/or digging up the graves, there really isn’t anything to damage.

  65. 65.

    Aleta

    (Hope it’s obvious, but I don’t believe the quotes below. There’re examples of how he communicates. He probably mistakes his paranoia for a reasonable prediction, but needs to service it by inciting.)

    There was the time he said “Try to im peach him. Just try it. You will have a spasm of viol e—. An insur rection– in this country like you have never seen before… Both sides are heavily arm ed, my friend.” “This is not 1974. People will not stand for [imp each ment]. Any politician who votes for it would be endangering their own life.” “There will be viol—- on both sides. Let me make this clear: “I’m not advocating vio—-, I am predicting [vio—-].” ” [Civil War] is what I think will happen.”

    There was the time (6 months later) that he and Jones filmed themselves at shooting practice, claiming they were preparing for C. war if T was removed.

    There were similar messages (put into the msn) in Oct 2016.

    This is one of his desperate messages on behalf of T., not just himself. Iow, ‘The whole thing is rigged. Don’t stand for it.’ He’s put all his money down on a pardon.

  66. 66.

    Mnemosyne

    @MattF:

    I kind of hope they do so that Stone can discover for himself that jail is a mind-numbingly boring place to be where nobody gives a shit about what he says or who he knows.

  69. 69.

    Ladyraxterinok

    @Adam L Silverman: I remember Cohn from the Army-McCarthy Hearings. (My dad just HAD to go to neighbor’s to watch the hearings on TV. It’s what led him finally to agree to get a tv set.)

    And I thought Cohn had just faded away. Then after 2016 I learn he was a major mentor to Trump. And now Stone too?!?

  71. 71.

    Mnemosyne

    Also, too, the Popehat tweet has a link to an interesting article Ken White wrote in June of 2016 explaining for us non-lawyers why recusal doesn’t work the way Trump and Stone think it works.

  73. 73.

    Patricia Kayden

    but it is likely to get Federal law enforcement to overreact.

    How? He made a threat against a federal judge which should be a crime. Or maybe I’m missing something.

  77. 77.

    Anonymous At Work

    Ron White said it best, “At that point, I had the right, but not the ability, to remain silent.”
    Let me know when the judge switches from gag *orders* to just plain gags on Stone…

  81. 81.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Patricia Kayden: Whether this is really a threat or not is to be determined. It was certainly stupid. But after a right wing gas bag tied to Sean Hannity got a Federal judge targeted and most of her family assassinated, Federal law enforcement has been a bit thin skinned about this sort of thing.

  82. 82.

    JanieM

    it is likely to get Federal law enforcement to overreact

    a right wing gas bag tied to Sean Hannity got a Federal judge targeted and most of her family assassinated,

    Hardly over-reacting, in that light.

  84. 84.

    Old Man by the Sea

    @Adam L Silverman:

    But after a right wing gas bag tied to Sean Hannity got a Federal judge targeted and most of her family assassinated,

    I did not know about this. Who was involved and when did this happen?

  85. 85.

    joel hanes

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The reason Barr is AG is because he’s the poster boy for misusing the pardon power to cover up executive branch crimes and malfeasance.

    Lifted and lightly edited from Juanita Jean’s today :

    File under You Can’t Make This Shit Up:
    The almost new Attorney General, Bill Barr, has a son in law named Tyler McGauhey.
    McGauhey is leaving the Justice Department to avoid conflicts of interest with Barr after he’s confirmed.
    Where’s he going, you ask?

    To the White House, of course, to work for White House counsel … fighting Mueller’s Russia investigation.

    That’s right, folks, son in law of the new Attorney General’s son-in-law will be helping Trump … against the Justice Department.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    @joel hanes: I was already tracking on that. Apparently it wasn’t required under the nepotism rules, which further adds to the speculation.

  89. 89.

    JaySinWA

    @Old Man by the Sea: I suspect he is referring to Judge Lefkow’s family murder. While there is a chain from Matthew Hale to Hal Turner making statements to Hannity about the Judge deserving death, apparently the family was murdered by a Bart Ross. Ross was a former plaintiff before the judge. I don’t see a clear path from Hannity’s show to Ross.
    However it wasn’t for lack of trying to gin up hatred of the Judge. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Lefkow
    ETA I see Adam has linked to part of the story.

  90. 90.

    joel hanes

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I know you’re already aware of most security traditions.

    I hope to drive a few clicks to Juanita Jean’s, where the proprietor, Susan Bankston, is a Democratic organizer in real life, and has done wonderful work convincing Sugarland Texas Democratic voters to get their asses to the polls and to help in making Texas blue.

  91. 91.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @joel hanes:

    Years ago — decades, even — there was a TV sitcom called The Mothers in Law (Eve Arden and Kaye Ballard were the eponymous stars).

    I’m thinking it’s time for a snappy contemporary 30-minute sitcom, set in the Oval Office, called The Sons in Law. I’ll leave it to the creativity of Juicers to cast the Jared Kushner and Tyler McGauhey roles.

    I can see a breakthrough role for the actor cast as George Conway.

    Play with it, you filmic types.

  93. 93.

    Adam L Silverman

    @JaySinWA: I’m aware of who committed the murders. And I’m aware of his trial record. I’m also aware that what Hannity’s buddy was doing, and what Hannity was doing, was setting the conditions for this action to occur. If it hadn’t been the guy who actually committed the murders, who had his own beef with the judge, it would have been someone else. And there were other death threats that had been made.

  94. 94.

    CarolDuhart2

    Now everyone understands the SWAT-like arrest of Roger Stone. He’s armed, unstable, and hanging around Proud Boys. Who is to say if some of them actually lived with him? Frankly, he should have stayed in jail until trial. A black dude who did that would already be in jail-but even judges think that he can be trusted to be responsible and not do stupid stuff like this.

  96. 96.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Yet again, you give way too much credit to these people. As the saying goes, they’re not criminal masterminds. They’re not Lex Luthor. They’re shitlords. Stone is a nutcase who thought Trump could arrest Hillary and tried to get him to do so. He posted the picture because he’s a mean, insane, privileged asshole who at the moment he did it was getting his jollies out of publicly threatening with death a judge who’s not taking any of his shit. Anything else that might result is an accident, good or bad.

  97. 97.

    Waldo

    I guess Stone, like Manafort, realized that no amount of cooperation is going get him out of a long prison sentence. Might as well bet it all on a presidential pardon.

  98. 98.

    Miss Bianca

    @Frankensteinbeck: It’s the sheer, unmitigated, galling arrogance of it all that gets me. I want to see that asshole slapped into solitary until his trial. I might not get it, but that’s what I want.

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