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So, this might happen:

I think it’ll come ashore further north and spare Disgraceland. But isn’t it pretty to think so?

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  1. 1.

    Kristine

    I just read that the T-word canceled his trip to Poland in order to monitor Dorian. I wonder if that’s the reason. I can’t believe he’d care if it threatened anywhere else.

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Kristine: he hates to travel, and I’m sure he’s still bitching about being in France last weekend. II’m sure he was glad to have an excuse to cancel

  7. 7.

    Kristine

    @JPL: I’m sure he’s checking with his financial folks to make sure the property values are sufficiently inflated in case of insurance claims. “Vacation hairpieces: $10 million each.”

  8. 8.

    PaulWartenberg

    sad thing for me (and Betty and a few other Florida Juicers) is that the way the storm is approaching Florida we’re all going to get hit with at least a Cat 1 storm after the time it hits Mal-A-Loogie as a Cat 4.

    It’s kind of a good news bad news deal. But if one week of power outages in my county means trump’s crown jewel gets washed out into the Atlantic Ocean like the wrath of God, it might be worth it. Just hope nobody gets killed as it happens.

  9. 9.

    Betty Cracker

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I was thinking the same. It’s been reported on other excursions that the low quality hires who staff the trips can’t figure out how to stream Fox News, and it’s probably harder to acquire overdone steaks with ketchup, etc., abroad.

  11. 11.

    Betty Cracker

    @JPL: I’ll probably stay home. Since we moved last year, we don’t have to worry about storm surge anymore. Our river might flood, and that would definitely suck, but we’re in a stilt house, so we should be okay.

    @PaulWartenberg: Yep.

  13. 13.

    Keith P.

    Florida’s hurricane relief is too expensive. We should trade it to Denmark in exchange for Greenland.

  15. 15.

    C Stars

    Nah, he’s just lazy and would rather hang around and golf/tweet/watch TV. I’ve a feeling he’d cancel no matter where the hurricane was expected. I’m hoping Dorian doesn’t make landfall, and that life and property are spared.

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    another angle:

    Natasha Bertrand @ NatashaBertrand
    Natasha Bertrand Retweeted Franco Ordoñez
    Trump was expected to meet with Ukraine’s president on Sunday while in Poland. Remains to be seen whether VP will still meet w/Zelensky, and whether subject of halted aid to Ukraine will come up.

    I imagine a few people in the Polish gov’t and military have questions about the reliability of the US as an ally these days. Who wants to be bored with a bunch of people whining in funny accents. Tell Mike to do it. They can talk about the bible or whatever.

  18. 18.

    dmsilev

    One of the most accurate storm predictions, the European Model expects a track that would strike a full frontal blow on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach,

    Yes, but what do a bunch of European eggheads know about good old-fashioned American storms?

    (conservatives, probably as we speak)

  20. 20.

    SiubhanDuinne

    All the Florida juicers (and anyone in the path of this thing), please stay safe. And once Dorian makes landfall, do send whatever reassuring updates you’re able to. You know how we worry.

    Did this storm hit Dominica? Have we heard from the other Betty?

  21. 21.

    trollhattan

    @JPL:
    She has a mirth generator. That’s probably enough.

    The storm looks big as a big thing and wider than the whole dang state.

  22. 22.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @NotMax: what does the insurance policy say about nuclear hurricanes? is it like double indemnity for a real estate grifter?

  26. 26.

    PeakVT

    As much as I’d like to see the most infiltrated resort in America washed away, hurricanes are blunt instruments and good people will get hurt as well. Let’s hope that it curves out to sea at the last moment.

    Also, too, don’t underestimate Trump’s ability to grift. Not only will he do his best to flood Florida with money, in 2-4 years we’ll find out that half the contractors were long-time Republican supporters who delivered minimal relief or reconstruction but nonetheless found ways to make huge PAC donations and/or join his flooded club.

    Also, three, the further south it strikes the more likely it is to re-intensify in the Gulf, though that’s a SWAG on my part.

  29. 29.

    Sab

    @Omnes Omnibus: Nobody in Florida has basements. The whole state is about ten feet above sea level, and the underground water table is almost that high.

    Also snakes. When I lived there as a kid in the 1960s our neighbors had a bomb shelter under their garage, and snakes moving in were a constant challenge.

  31. 31.

    TenguPhule

    @dmsilev:

    One of the most accurate storm predictions, the European Model expects a track that would strike a full frontal blow on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach,

    I assume this is Dog’s way of telling Trump to drop out of the 2020 election.

  32. 32.

    Jerzy Russian

    The only downside of the storm hitting Mar-a-Lago is that it will spread the bedbugs around all over the place.

  33. 33.

    Betty

    @SiubhanDuinne: Hi, we were lucky and missed by Dorian – just some heavy rain and wind for the day. The storm has continued to strengthen since it left this area. Sending positive thoughts to all those in its path.

  34. 34.

    cope

    Good luck, Betty. Of course this is the weekend our daughter and her family have booked rooms first at a Disney resort (Friday, Saturday) and then at a Universal resort Sunday (the whole family is bi-parkal since they live in Kissimmee).

    I’m pretty sure we will lose power for some time, we always do…6 days last hurricane. The good news: we replaced our old windows with new, screened ones this year so if nothing else, we should be able to get some cross-ventilation without inhaling bugs. I hit Publix this morning and stocked up, cars are gassed and we’re good to go. A quick trip up to Mayo in JAX tomorrow but we’ll be back in the early afternoon.

    Stay safe.

  35. 35.

    Droppy

    The best thing about Trump’s property getting wiped off the face of Florida would be the evangelical interpretive dancing around the point of God’s wrath being so clearly demonstrated. If Jerry Falwell, Jr.’s pool boy could somehow be involved, that would be perfect. A guy can dream …

  36. 36.

    TenguPhule

    JFC, the disease outbreaks have started in the concentration camps.

    Mumps sickens hundreds of detained migrants in 19 states

    Mumps has swept through 57 immigration detention facilities in 19 states since September, according to the first U.S. government report on the outbreaks in the overloaded immigration system.

    The virus sickened 898 adult migrants and 33 detention center staffers, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in its report today.

    New cases continue as migrants are taken into custody or transferred between facilities, the report said. As of last week, outbreaks were happening in 15 facilities in seven states.

    Ovens to eventually follow for sterilization.

  37. 37.

    FelonyGovt

    Hope Betty and all the Florida jackals stay safe. Wouldn’t it be nice if the hurricane would JUST level Mar-A-Stinko and then dissipate?

  42. 42.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    Stay safe Betty! I’d love to see Trump’s tacky resort destroyed by the hurricane if no one was hurt

  43. 43.

    Mike in NC

    Called USAA today to resume windstorm and hail coverage on our household policy, as we got slammed by 2 of the last 3 hurricanes. Not looking forward to another hurricane season.

  47. 47.

    kindness

    Gosh Betty, yesterday I was joking when I said your dock was going to become a gator refuge in the storm. Didn’t mean to jinx anything. Having said that, if you could get a picture of yourself sitting in the middle of your new flock, that would be the awesome. I’m not all that sure you could get gators to wave to the camera so I didn’t go there.

  53. 53.

    C Stars

    @TenguPhule: I read that. I’m sure this administration’s enablers are thrilled: the ever-increasing scale of human misery and death at the border detention camps will be a huge selling point for Trump in 2020.

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    While now there is doubtless a surfeit of tacky on the property, it was originally built as an estate for Marjorie Merriweather Post (think General Foods and E.F. Hutton). The main structure – a National Historic Landmark, so renovations and alterations scrutinized – and likely some extant outbuildings were there when he bought the place.

    Whole shebang sits on a barrier island.

    BTW, from 2005:

    Donald Trump says he received a $17 million insurance payment in 2005 for hurricane damage to Mar-a-Lago, his private club in Palm Beach. But The Associated Press has found little evidence of such large-scale damage.
    [snip]
    Trump’s description of extensive damage does not match the versions of Mar-a-Lago members and even Trump loyalists. In an interview about Mar-a-Lago’s history, Trump’s longtime former butler, Anthony Senecal, recalled no catastrophic damage. He said Hurricane Wilma, the last of a string of storms which barreled through in 2004 and 2005, flattened trees behind the estate, but the house itself only lost some roof tiles.

    “That house has never been seriously damaged,” said Senecal, discussing Mar-a-Lago’s luck with hurricanes. “I was there for all of them.”
    [snip]
    Palm Beach building department records showed no permits for construction on that scale after the storms. The only permits that appeared hurricane-related were $3,000 in repairs to storm-damaged outdoor lighting and the vacuuming of sand from the property’s beachfront pool. Likewise, records of the city’s Landmarks and Preservation Commission reflected no repair work conducted following the 2004 and 2005 hurricane seasons. Source</blockquote

  55. 55.

    Jay

    NEW: Boston teen accused of plotting a mass shooting at a university in North Carolina was an NRA enthusiast who once told classmates he "needed guns to protect myself from illegal aliens," according to a former Boston classmate. #WBZ https://t.co/wEPR1KPNNz— Liam Martin (@LiamWBZ) August 28, 2019

    For anybody keeping count, that’s 32 in 17 days since the last Nazi mass murder spree.

  56. 56.

    chopper

    i think it would be really interesting if it hit mar a lago. originally the storm was aiming at puerto rico, then orangemandias tweeted some nasty shit about PR. then lo and behold, the storm shifts, avoids PR and makes a beeline for trump’s house? i mean, that would be great.

  58. 58.

    NotMax

    @chopper

    All the forecasts I’d seen, going back to when it was forming, had the track brushing near to and past Puerto Rico, but none predicting direct landfall there.

  62. 62.

    JoyceH

    @NotMax: was just coming here to point out that Mar a Lago was built in the 1920s by MM Post, and was built to withstand hurricanes. But how I would love to see both Trump’s FL golf courses get washed away.

  64. 64.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @NotMax:

    I think I remember reading that here at some point. Still, as much as it is an historical landmark, it being destroyed would hurt Trump’s bottom line, which would serve him right for using his properties as President.

  66. 66.

    PaulWartenberg

    I’ve been looking at battery or solar powered generators because I don’t want to mess with a gas-powered one.

    Some of them seem nice especially the ones built for CPAP service – which I *need* – but they’re still too pricey for my librarian’s budget, which is why over the last few years I’ve yet to buy one.

    And of course, the local stores are likely sold out by now.

    :sigh:

  67. 67.

    J R in WV

    @Betty Cracker:

    @JPL: Been meaning to get one [generator]! Oops!

    We used a variety of portable generators over the decades, and our peak was a Yamaha 3K watt generator engineered for camping, which meant it was extra silent. Inside the house you couldn’t hear it running.

    More recently we bit the bullet and had a Generac installed, 22KW, it runs everything but the central air. If necessary we could retreat to the basement which is underground enough to be pretty cool. It runs on natural gas, so you need no liquid fuel, it switches over from the grid to the gen-set automatically, starts up after 15 seconds of outage.

    Highly recommended!! You can get them with a carb to run on propane, if that service is available in your area.

    ETA: It would certainly run a room AC unit if we were to install one with a dedicated 220V line/outlet.

  69. 69.

    trnc

    I think it’ll come ashore further north and spare Disgraceland.

    If it does hit, he’ll collect millions in insurance and stifle a laugh about the victims. Or maybe he’ll laugh outright. It’s not like his supporters will care.

  71. 71.

    JGabriel

    Betty Cracker @ Top:

    One of the most accurate storm predictions, the European Model expects a track that would strike a full frontal blow on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach,

    I hope that’s not just European wishful thinking. I mean, I don’t want Democratic Floridians to get hit with a Cat. 4 hurricane, but if it’s going to hit FL anyway, then Mar-a-Lago deserves be the target.

    Of course, Trump will probably just use that as an excuse to defraud and steal even more money from the government.

  73. 73.

    Johnny Gentle (famous crooner)

    Nice way to be an asshole. “The hurricane could devastate Florida, destroy homes, displace thousands of people and cause billions in damage, but maybe it’ll get Turmp’s hotel hur hur hur.”

  74. 74.

    Mai naem mobile

    Orange Menace can defraud the insurance company and the government but at this point he is probably making a lot of money from MarLago as a quid pro quo bribing business so not having it usable probably hurts more than the fraud would gain him. Furthermore if he doesn’t win reelection there’s a shelf life to Marlagos money making potential. A lot of damage will make it not usable for at least 6 months. And don’t forget he’s known for not paying his construction/remodel bills. Who is going to work for the asshole when there is plenty of other work available.

  75. 75.

    Jay

    Lot of right-wing "journalists" telling on themselves today. Gateway Pundit blogger deleted this admission that she witnesses, but doesn't report on, "illegal direct action" so she can have access. That's not journalism! Reporters aren't police, but we write up the things we see! pic.twitter.com/SeqGGVZbiC— Andy Campbell (@AndyBCampbell) August 28, 2019

  76. 76.

    Quaker in a Basement

    C’mon, Dorian. Scatter that SOB all across the Everglades. No FEMA money for you, Cheeto Benito!

  77. 77.

    opiejeanne

    @RAVEN: I asked because the last time I saw him he had just had an ambulance ride and was heading for the VA hospital the next morning, yesterday I think. He was having a lot of dizziness and people were worried. Was he here last night and he’s fine?

  78. 78.

    Skepticat

    Watching Dorian, I’m reaching my usual panic stage as appropriate for a problem about which I can do absolutely nothing but worry. If the intensity and path directly over my island hold, it’s fairly likely I won’t have a home to return to. When I lost a quarter of the house in Floyd, I had money and could made repairs. Now …. well … I don’t wish ill for anyone but very specifically _______, but I do wish the track would shift. Or perhaps Mother Nature will nuke it before it bothers any of us. Paws crossed.

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    @Skepticat

    Stay frosty, stay safe. The worry eats up time and energy which could be put to more productive uses.

    Got any elderly or disabled neighbors who might appreciate aid with shopping, home storm preparation, shopping, etc.?

  83. 83.

    Skepticat

    @NotMax: At the moment, I’m in Maine, which is part of the reason for the helpless feeling, but my friends (most much younger than I) are going to be ready and hunkering down in the more solid structures on our tiny island. We have our fingers, toes, eyes, and wires crossed.

  84. 84.

    Greg

    @NotMax:
    My worry is that Mar-a-Lago and Doral will be seriously damaged, and Trump will have us pay to fix them since the former is his “Southern White House”, and Doral will be hosting the next G7.

  85. 85.

    droog

    China better clear all of its spies out of Mar-A-Lago pronto. Don’t wait until the last minute, China. You can’t expect for large groups of people to flee with ease on short notice if all the roads are jammed or flooded. Especially when they have so much kit to carry with them.

  86. 86.

    chopper

    @NotMax:

    dead thread, but this is wrong. you can go through the NHC advisories and the one in effect at the time trump started tweeting had the predicted path go right through PR.

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