Friday night, presumably the young & impressionable are either in bed or off partying somewhere, let’s indulge in a nice rowdy game of Kick the Wohl-ball!
First off — if Warren isn’t our 2020 candidate, the winner should most definitely hire her social media staff instanter, because they are GOOD:
Never trust a politician without a sense of humor. https://t.co/9EPDh5oWb5
— Yoni Appelbaum (@YAppelbaum) October 3, 2019
Backstory / fisking, ICYMI:
This is some genius viral marketing I can’t believe Warren’s campaign thought of thi— I’m sorry, I’m being told this is intended to hurt Warren? https://t.co/I22IYFnRtE
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) October 3, 2019
Some 69 year old woman convinced a marine she was Elizabeth Warren and it worked ?????? https://t.co/PahA9E6jdg
— Bakari Sellers (@Bakari_Sellers) October 3, 2019
The owner of the escort agency that Jacob Wohl's fake Warren accuser said he worked for disputes the story and says he would never employ the alleged escort — He's "not up to caliber to work at our agency."
Story from @ejdickson https://t.co/1ANs1oHhw9
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019
Stolen sex valor
— Jake McIntyre (@jakemcintyre) October 3, 2019
[movie trailer voiceover guy]
Wall Street hates her. Zuckerberg fears her. Young Marines lust for her.
WARREN, coming to a ballot box near you, November 2020 pic.twitter.com/anWTquqMc2
— shauna (@goldengateblond) October 2, 2019
Honestly, if there really are 24-year-old Marine veterans who've had to turn to sex work to make ends meet, I'm pretty sure Elizabeth Warren has a plan for that.
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) October 3, 2019
Things I didn’t think I’d be saying when I started this job: there’s a cougar chant happening at the San Diego town hall. https://t.co/iYZ8m8GhuB
— Emma ?? Enemy #GoCougars (@EmmaYourFriend) October 4, 2019
Mary G
Also, the Marines said the boy toy lied about serving in Afghanistan and receiving a purple heart.
West of the Rockies
Warren, Harris… Harris, Warren. Either would thrill me. Not together though. One or the other should remain an excellent senator.
NotMax
Nice to see she isn’t taking this lying down.
So to speak.
:)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Mirren or Streep?
NotMax
@Mary G
Semper
FiLie.Yarrow
This whole Jacob Wohl/ Elizabeth Warren is a Cougar thing absolutely cracks me up.
Of course there is!
I think I saw that the guy wasn’t even a Marine? And the subplot where the “sex scars” he took off his shirt to show actually came from some mishap with a chain on a swing set he was putting together and he’d posted on his Instagram about it. You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Gretchen
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Well done, sir!
Anne Laurie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: IMO, Cate Blanchett!
(Although I suspect Reese Witherspoon would fight for the role… )
Joe Falco
@NotMax:
Why, if anything, Warren has shown she can dominate on any issue.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Anne Laurie: or Tilda Swinton…. that would scare the shit out of trump
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Mary G:
I fucking called it. Stolen valor.
Yarrow
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Anne Laurie:
Annette Bening is the obvious choice.
NotMax
@Anne Laurie
Olympia Dukakis.
Sister Golden Bear
A 70-year-old woman with the stamina to keep nailing at 24-year-old stud muffin — and this was supposed to turn off women voters. ???
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Yarrow: there ya go!
West of the Rockies
@NotMax:
Too old. I love Olympia, but she is 87. She just finished playing 90-year-old Anna Madrigal in the latest Tales of the City series.
Eolirin
I get the ridiculousness of all of the rest of this really I do, but can we focus just a little bit of attention on: “Shock the conscious of the nation?” Seriously? What is wrong with this person?
And in a god damn *press release*. Seriously wtf.
cain
Goddam, this strategy is too dumb for words. The guy is actually making it better for Warren than the other way around. He needs to stop doing this shit. What a fucking moron. People should troll his ass anywhere he goes about how “effective” he’s been. Dick.
cain
@West of the Rockies:
Right.
guachi
@Sister Golden Bear: My wife isn’t political in the way we at BJ are but I did mention the ridiculous Warren story to her. She immediately laughed and said, “Well, good for her!”
Yeah, I don’t see how this was supposed to be a negative. And Warren’s subtweet is awesome. I wonder who on her campaign/staff thought to write it.
It’s a two-person race now and the faster it happens and other candidates drop out the better chance a not-Biden has of winning.
West of the Rockies
@cain:
His family must be so proud.
I propose a steel cage match between Wohl and O’Keefe: two idiots enter Thunderdome… Only one leaves.
mrmoshpotato
@Eolirin: Shook the couscous?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@mrmoshpotato: What are Peter Gabriel’s first drafts for 600, Alex!
mrmoshpotato
@West of the Rockies: @cain: Not up for President Warren, AG Harris?
You know Harris would bury all the Trump trash under the prison.
mrmoshpotato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The thought process on ‘couscous’ becoming ‘monkey’ must be damn interesting.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@mrmoshpotato: Peter Gabriel is an interesting dude.
West of the Rockies
@mrmoshpotato:
I’ve thought of that (Harris as AG). Has anyone gone from AG to president?
NotMax
@West of the Rockies
Okay then, Cybill Shepherd is 70.
Also too, kind of surprised no one has suggested Cher.
mrmoshpotato
@West of the Rockies: You’re thinking she’d run for President after being AG?
NotMax
@NotMax
Small correction. Actually,. Cybill turns 70 next year. Just the right vintage.
Eolirin
@West of the Rockies: Bobby Kennedy would’ve, well, via the senate though. So even putting aside the whole assassinated thing maybe that doesn’t count, depending on how you want to look at that.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@mrmoshpotato: One of the few problems I had with Obama was pulling folk out the Senate and Governors for positions in the Cabinet. The next Democratic President SHOULD NOT DO THAT. Even if the person is from a blue state, don’t do it.
Raven Onthill
The more I see of Warren, the more impressed I am – and I’ve supported her from the beginning.
Still suspect the banksters are going to find a way to make Harris the nominee, though.
Jay
frosty
I would like every comment so far if that was allowed. Plus this is the best larf I’ve had all week. Nicely done RWMFs!!!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Good lord, you have to be some kind of performance poster.
Eolirin
@Raven Onthill: I don’t think that would go as well for them as they maybe think…
But really, I’d expect Biden to be the preferred candidate there anyway.
mrmoshpotato
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Ok. Hopefully Warren or Harris can find an AG who’ll have no problem with dropping a ton of bricks on the whole Soviet shitpile mobster crime family.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@West of the Rockies: No, the only Cabinet positions where the holder has gone on to be President is Secretary of State and Secretary of War(Defense).
mrmoshpotato
@frosty:
No. Now stop enjoying any of this immediately!
Mnemosyne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
He loves his Russian propaganda and refuses to look at where it came from.
West of the Rockies
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I’d be over the moon if Harris became a Supreme.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Opps, Hoover was Secretary of Commerce prior to becoming President., Taft was Secretary of War prior to becoming President(he became Chief Justice in his post Presidential years). The last Secretary of State to become President was Buchanan, that worked out well.
Raven Onthill
@Eolirin: I expect you’re right. Biden has long been an ardent supporter of the big banks. But they’ll hedge their bets because that’s what bankers do, and they hate Warren.
Jay
?BillinGlendaleCA
@West of the Rockies: Why? I’d rather her stay in the Senate and maybe try for President if she isn’t successful this time around. As far as the Supreme Court goes, we need to expand it, I think 17 is a good number.
Jay
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jay: Watched that hill burn from here at The Cave, they’re lucky no one got killed and no structures were lost. It did shut down two freeways* for a day or so.
*One was the western portion of the Obama highway.
hilts
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
What about Allison Janney or Jane Lynch?
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
Spread it on the internet, in newspapers, on radio and TV. Full penetration!
:)
Jay
Gretchen
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Yes. Like Obama pulling Dem governor Kathleen Sibelius out of Kansas, and we got Brownback instead. We’re still scrambling or a good Dem Senate candidate now that Pat Roberts is retiring and Kris Kobach and Mike Pompeo want to run. A good dem would have a good chance, but we have a thin bench.
hilts
OT
Anyone see this Jonathan Bernstein column in Bloomberg News?
Oust Pelosi From the Presidential Succession Line
Democrats should make it legally impossible for impeachment to deliver them the White House.
I think Bernstein is incredibly naive to theorize that removing Pelosi from the line of succession would make any goddamn difference to Republicans. I wonder how many other pundits in coming weeks are going to echo Bernstein’s suggestion
h/t https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-04/impeachment-shouldn-t-make-a-pelosi-presidency-possible
206inKY
Fuck it, I’m jumping ship from Beto to Warren. This story will reap dividends for years to come, entirely to her benefit. First her adorable husband and doggie, and now the gloriousness of a beefcake marine. I predict Colbert and Gail Collins will be all over it.
OT: In the KY senate race, Matt Jones was kicked off his popular show after complaints from Amy McGrath, who is doing Mitch’s dirty work. See the bottom of the Post article on it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/08/19/sports-radio-host-matt-jones-fired-tv-show-after-announcing-mitch-mcconnell-book/
Jay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Funny how the arson wasn’t the unhomed, but instead, the children of the Privledged.
Original Lee
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I was thinking June Foray.
Jay
Original Lee
@hilts: I have wondered about the whole succession thing, because I thought, not being a lawyer, that Pence would have to nominate and get Congressional approval for a new VP first and Pelosi would therefore not move up to be next in line. The only way Pelosi would be President is if Pence had a fatal heart attack before his new VP could be sworn in.
PJ
@hilts: Yeah, Democrats should refuse to put a woman in the White House when the Republican who, with Russian help, stole the role from a Democratic woman with more votes, is finally ejected by the Senate from seeking foreign help to win defeat a Democrat in 2020. F*ck that guy – the coup was in 2016.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jay: I’m glad they caught them, but we’ve had quite a few fires(especially in river channels) that get started in homeless encampments when they’re cooking meals. We seem to have the philosophy that if we make it difficult(not providing restrooms, showers, a place to cook) for the homeless they’ll move somewhere else, It doesn’t work like that, quite a few(and increasingly so) of these folk have significant ties to the local community.
PJ
@Original Lee: If Pence is impeached first (or at the same time as Trump) and no new VP is approved by Congress, then Pelosi becomes the successor when Trump is impeached.
Jay
Yarrow
@Original Lee: @PJ: Getting rid of Pence first will be aided by Trump’s narcissism. He’ll throw everyone under the bus in an attempt to save himself. He’s already started with Pence.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Original Lee: That’s correct.
hilts
@Original Lee: @PJ:
This story is moving along at breakneck speed and will likely have many twists and turns that none of us can imagine, but I believe an impeachment of Pence remains an extremely remote possibility.
If there were an Olympic Gold Medal for Pearl Clutching opinion columns, I’d give it to Bernstein for his wacky suggestion.
Mel
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Mirren, without a doubt!
Jay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Survey says, here at least, most have jobs, often several, but don’t have homes.
hilts
@206inKY:
Welcome aboard! Now if we can just get Biden and Sanders to throw in the towel.
Fuck Moscow Mitch. After Trump, this gravedigger of American democracy is the person I most want to see defeated in 2020.
Jay
Jay
mrmoshpotato
@206inKY: I’ll be buying Matt Jones’s book on title alone.
JWR
Last week we heard about there being a second whistleblower, of sorts, so is this another, actual whistleblower? Was that first, second whistleblower an “intelligence official”?
smike
This Wohl fellow seems so nice, but most of his gasps-for-breath seem to involve some sort of sordid sex. I wonder why that is…
lgerard
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Herbert Hoover was Secretary of Commerce
(turned out to be bad at commerce)
vhh
@Jay: Similar facilities obtain in France.
Anne Laurie
@NotMax:
Much as I love the woman / actress, Cher does *not* have the required ‘perky (yet deadly) blond’ personality.
Warren’s Buffy, Cher’s (a post-transformation) Willow.
joel hanes
Jim Wright of Stonekettle Station had the best military take on the Wohl allegations:
https://twitter.com/Stonekettle/status/1179846719737139200
A damned shame he misspelled “scarred”.
Other than that, it’s perfect
mak
This happened, too
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1180279730727206912
opiejeanne
@Original Lee: If only June were still with us, but she’s joined the Choir Invisible. She was 99.
opiejeanne
@vhh: Oh heck, we were in a restaurant in Mississippi this summer and there were two doors marked “your choice” or something like that. No indication of any sort of gender.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@lgerard: I noted my error in a subsequent reply to my own comment.
WereBear
Right wing schemes can get this stupid. Everyone who fell for that white-boy-fake-pimp act and destroyed Acorn should get a lot of shaming… but that social control is gone too.
JPL
It’s 76 and it’s a little after 5, but it’s not going to get much warmer than that. Finally the twenty point drop in temperature has arrived. hallelujah
Omnes Omnibus
@West of the Rockies: The qualities that make someone a good DA/AG are not the qualities that would make a good Supreme Court Justice. Just because someone is a lawyer does not mean that they would be a good judge at any level.
mrmoshpotato
@joel hanes: OH. MY. GOD. Stonekettle’s take is brilliant.
Bravo, Mr. Wright.
PaulWartenberg
@Mary G:
I was wondering when the Marine’s actual history with the corps was going to come out, are there any links to the reports?
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
Jon Zal beat you to it with “Elizabeth Warren — Semper Fine!”
zhena gogolia
@mrmoshpotato:
There are tons of candidates for that. Sally Q. Yates, Neal Katyal, Preet Bharara, etc.
germy
Depends how conscious or unconscious the nation is.
I’m optimistic the nation will wake up.
Also, when is Jacob going to prison? Isn’t he overdue by now?
pluky
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Mirren!
jamey
@Mary G: I think the USMC spokesperson meant a Purple Helmet, not a Purple Heart.
matryoshka
@Anne Laurie: Jessica Lange as Warren.
Ken
I’m only seeing the Wohl story second- and third-hand (and a big thanks to those who have exposed themselves to the direct flow), but let me see if I’ve got this straight. They hired a stripper who lied about where he worked, lied about his military service, and lied about his “sex scars” – all things that were fact-checked within minutes – and cracked up while he was trying to deliver his lines?
Are we sure that Wohl and his buddy aren’t deep-undercover Democratic operatives?
Miss Bianca
@Sister Golden Bear: IKR?? : )
How you doing, SGB?
Peale
@Ken: the allegations are probably enough to have Giuliani and Barr pressure the FBI into investigating warren.
SFAW
@hilts:
What a fucking moron.
On the other hand: maybe the Dems should turn all their positions of power over to Republicans, to show the country how sincere they are in their quest for bipartisan solutions to what ails America.
I think, to help in that effort, the Dems should STRONGLY push for the repeal of the 22nd Amendment. Maybe the First Amendment as well, just to show that they’re SERIOUS about “reaching across the aisle.”
SFAW
@Peale:
And for Pompeo to pressure Zelensky re: Warren’s making LITERALLY TRILLIONS from Burisma
catclub
@Eolirin:
I think you would enjoy the book written by Stephen Fry, whose title eludes me for the moment. Ah, The Liar was correct.
Check out Professor Trefusis’ review of a violent US (Rambo?) movie.
SFAW
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Not good enough. I call upon Shill Barr to launch an investigation by the
KGBFSB into whether you were contrite enoughcatclub
@opiejeanne:
also, in a restaurant in the country, in Mississippi “Pointers’ and ‘Setters’. They stumped a 6 year old.
SFAW
Mrs. SFAW is not into the inside-baseball of politics, so she hadn’t heard about SPW’s steamy affair. So, I told her about Wohl’s presser, and the allegations, and asked for her reaction re: SPW’s actions.
“You want my serious, or my not-so-serious response?”
“Either way is fine.”
“Go, Liz!!” (punctuated with an upward fist pump)
For a little context, Mrs. SFAW is not that much younger than I.
afanasia
@Yarrow: oh, that would be perfect….
Doug R
“Not up to caliber” LOL.
So it’s true, it’s width not just length.
Jinchi
I remember when pundits were pondering whether Al Gore should refuse the presidency if he won the electoral college but lost the popular vote.