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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2020 / Open Thread: Maybe All the GOP Go-To Lies Are Breaking Down From Overuse

Open Thread: Maybe All the GOP Go-To Lies Are Breaking Down From Overuse

by Anne Laurie|  January 6, 20207:01 pm| 38 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, Foreign Affairs, Impeachment Inquiry, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

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The subjects of Trump's past dozen tweets give a perfect view into his current brain situation:

1. Iran
2. Impeachment
3. Impeachment
4. Impeachment
5. Iran
6. Iran
7. Iran
8. Iran
9. Impeachment
10. Impeachment
11. Iran
12. Impeachment

— Dan Lavoie (@djlavoie) January 6, 2020

Three Americans killed and maybe a half-billion dollars worth of aircraft and high-tech surveillance equipment destroyed.

Barely a 12 hour story it seems.

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) January 6, 2020

was air cover scrambled? When were Trump & Esper notified? What did they do? Where was every last Navy ship in the region? Did they receive warnings of an impending attack? On what server were those warnings stored?

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) January 6, 2020

And our best candidates are taking the advantage…

Elizabeth Warren suggests to @jaketapper on @CNNSotu that Trump may have launched Iran attack to distract from impeachment. “I think that’s a reasonable question to ask..Look at the timing of this..There is a reason he chose this moment,” saying admin has sent conflicting signals

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 5, 2020

After an event in Iowa, @joebiden says “I don’t know,” if @realDonaldTrump is using the situation in Iran to distract from the president’s impeachment, “but it’ll have the effect of that.”

— Natasha Korecki (@natashakorecki) January 5, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Mary G

    January 6, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    He’ll never pay any tribute to the baby soldier who was killed. His skin is the wrong color.

    NEW: The Pentagon has identified the service member killed in a terror attack on a U.S. base in Kenya as Army Spc. Henry Mayfield Jr., 23, of Evergreen Park, Illinois. https://t.co/BiBhdOtL4l pic.twitter.com/8Lu45h8REX— ABC News (@ABC) January 6, 2020

  2. 2.

    Brachiator

    January 6, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    Maybe it should be “Go-To Lies” in the title.

    But I agree that the GOP has got to lie about everything.

  3. 3.

    chopper

    January 6, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    Three Americans killed and maybe a half-billion dollars worth of aircraft and high-tech surveillance equipment destroyed.

    given that trump said he droned the iranian general in part over the death of an american contractor in iraq, this is bad news. fucker’s gonna feel boxed in and want to respond.

  4. 4.

    FlipYrWhig

    January 6, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    @chopper: Or not. Remember Niger?

  5. 5.

    Martin

    January 6, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @chopper: That’s not why Trump did it and he of all people knows that. He doesn’t give a fuck about the contractor or the soldier killed in Kenya.

    He got his news cycle. He’ll lurch into the next news cycle.

  6. 6.

    Kraux Pas

    January 6, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    Three Americans killed and maybe a half-billion dollars worth of aircraft and high-tech surveillance equipment destroyed.

    Why aren’t Democrats on all the major networks demanding answers and preparing for years of investigations that will likely find no evidence of criminal wrongdoing (in this case) but proceed fruitlessly until the insinuation of wrongdoing is nevertheless implanted in voters’ brains.

    Oh, because they actually care about governing. Right.

  7. 7.

    debbie

    January 6, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    I heard a clip of McConnell on the news this afternoon. I know it’s hard to tell sometimes, but he was speaking without even a tiny bit of conviction.

  8. 8.

    Kent

    January 6, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    Nancy Pelosi is living inside his head right now.  She is a national treasure.

  9. 9.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 6, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    @debbie:

    Now that the shit’s hitting the fan, do you think McConnell’s starting to worry about his own personal safety? Three years now they’ve let this toddler within the reach of the nuclear football. Why did any of them think this was a good idea? That others would restrain him?

  10. 10.

    Roger Moore

    January 6, 2020 at 7:54 pm

    @Kent: 

    Nancy Pelosi is living inside his head right now. She is a national treasure.

    Damn straight. Living in Trump’s head is a sacrifice that makes Jesus look like an amateur.

  11. 11.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 6, 2020 at 7:59 pm

    @debbie:

    Kevin M. Kruse @ KevinMKruse
    Mitch McConnell, who once said that his #1 goal in the Senate was to deny Barack Obama a second term and instructed his caucus to block everything he proposed, is saying he’s shocked and saddened that his Democratic colleagues are so blinded by their opposition to Donald Trump.

  12. 12.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 6, 2020 at 8:02 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I wonder what’d he say when confronted with that quote? It’s ok when Republicans do it?

  13. 13.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 6, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    OT  Home Repair Question

    My water heated base board system doesn’t seem to be working what could be the problem? There is hot water on both floors so the water heater is not the problem. We changed our thermostats yesterday so that’s not the problem either.

  14. 14.

    Kraux Pas

    January 6, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I wonder what’d he say when confronted with that quote? It’s ok when Republicans do it?

    Everything is ok when Republicans do it. They would need a sense of shame, an understanding of ethics, and a notion of duty to anyone other than themselves and their rich friends for it to be otherwise.

  15. 15.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 6, 2020 at 8:16 pm

    Jacob M. Hale‏ @jhaleusa 5h5 hours ago
    “In the US Senate race in Florida, I am the only one running who has proved and said that they will act as a check and balance on whoever the president is even if it is a president from my own party.” – Marco Rubio, August 2016

  16. 16.

    chris

    January 6, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Hot water from the tap? Probably separate from your heating system.

    Next up, who changed the thermostats?

    I really just came here to post this kitten.

    Murder mittens pic.twitter.com/1KPSCarC7j— 41 Strange (@41Strange) 6 January 2020

  17. 17.

    John Revolta

    January 6, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Well if you changed your thermostat yesterday and things aren’t working right today, that’s probably where I’d start looking. Are you sure it’s wired in right? If you put the old one back in, does it work then?

  18. 18.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 6, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    @chris: It is the same water heater. One set of pipes goes into the bathrooms and another to hot water circulated baseboard heaters.

    Husband kitteh, we had the problem before we changed the thermostats. We thought the thermostats were the problem that’s why we changed them.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    January 6, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    Good Tim Kaine interview on Hayes.

  20. 20.

    ellenr

    January 6, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:  Zone valve.

  21. 21.

    Coppersmith

    January 6, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    Do you have a boiler? Baseboard systems are often separate from domestic hot water. Check to see if your boiler is working. If you do have a combi system, (I do) It could be a pump or control issue. Hope this helps.

  22. 22.

    waysel

    January 6, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Air in the lines? See ‘bleeding baseboard heaters’ on the Google.

  23. 23.

    Barbara

    January 6, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: When we changed thermostats we followed instructions but it turned out that our old system was not compatible with newfangled ecobee without some wiring workarounds, which my husband the amateur railroader made with instructions from ecobee.  Left to my own devices I would have hired an electrician.

  24. 24.

    chris

    January 6, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Okay so it’s a combination system. No idea at this point but see what Coppersmith just said. Probably a job for a pro.

    (Mine was oil-fired. We installed an electric water heater for the hot water taps and started saving a bunch of money especially in the warmer weather.)

  25. 25.

    Bill Arnold

    January 6, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    Troubleshooting workflow here:
    https://inspectapedia.com/heat/Baseboard_Heat_Repair_FAQs.php
    I’ve only ever had steam and forced air heat (and occasional electric baseboard) so don’t have experience.

  26. 26.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 6, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    @waysel: water not air.

  27. 27.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 6, 2020 at 8:56 pm

    @Coppersmith: yes one boiler for both heat and hot water

  28. 28.

    khead

    January 6, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Lol.   No, really.  That’s what McConnell would do.  Hypocrisy is for chumps.

  29. 29.

    Another Scott

    January 6, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: S/he is saying that there may be an air bubble in the system so that water isn’t circulating properly to the radiator(s).  (But if there’s an air bubble, why?  It may be a sign that something else is going on.)

    I’m no expert, but it does sound like a valve isn’t opening properly (so no hot water is getting to the radiators).

    You may need to call in a pro or a friend who has experience with such systems.

    Good luck!

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  30. 30.

    chris

    January 6, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    yes one boiler for both heat and hot water

    One boiler, two systems. Demand system for hot water, you turn the tap. Heating system is controlled by thermostat settings and there are valves, pumps, etc. If hot water comes out of the tap your furnace is making fire so you got that going for you. I’m handy with a lot of things but I think this is the point where I call a pro.

  31. 31.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 6, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    @Another Scott:

    Okay thanks that makes sense. I am an egg when it comes to these things. We have an older neighbor who is quite helpful. He thought it could be the valve. May have to call a pro. We have been having this problem since we moved in. The upstairs would not get hot but the downstairs did, now both are marginal. The house is  at 60 so some baseboards are working.

  32. 32.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 6, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    @chris:Thanks  that’s what we may end up doing ultimately. Just trying to figure out what the problem is in the first place.

  33. 33.

    chris

    January 6, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Question: Do you normally hear the furnace running? Is it running or trying to run at all?

    If it’s not running the problem is somewhere between the thermostat(s) and the furnace control panel.

    If it’s running and there’s no heat there’s a pump/valve problem. If so I would shut it down unless you need water for washing.

    And that’s all I got.

  34. 34.

    Ken

    January 6, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    Hmm.  The “GOP lies” thread is about repairing baseboard hot water systems.  Logically, then, I should head over to the Insta-Pot pancakes thread for an in-depth discussion of the impeachment.

  35. 35.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    January 6, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    @Ken: Balloon Juice!

  36. 36.

    Ken

    January 6, 2020 at 10:20 pm

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: Wouldn’t have it any other way.

    (And I note that the comments for Adam’s Iran backgrounder post include discussion of fluffy pancakes.)

  37. 37.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 6, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    @Ken: once you start thinking about fluffy pancakes, it’s hard to get them out of your head

  38. 38.

    Richard Guhl

    January 7, 2020 at 8:20 am

    @schrodingers_cat: The pump for the system? It might have a reset button. Or switch.

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