Every news report about “infection levels” in US should come back to this incredible-but-true reality
No one has any idea how and where the virus has spread in US, because hardly anyone has been tested
-Chinese officials knew, and concealed for a long time.
-US doesn’t know. https://t.co/CptBC5XHPB
— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) March 6, 2020
Nebraska and Kentucky reported their first coronavirus cases. 25 U.S. states have now reported infections https://t.co/OABykRaPjW
— Bloomberg (@business) March 7, 2020
AIPAC confirms that two conference attendees have now tested positive for coronavirus. I reported 2 days ago this was likely. There were 18,000 people there, including 2/3rds of Congress. On Tuesday, thousands of conference goers visited Hill offices. https://t.co/pWeQQx2Gp0
— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) March 6, 2020
He said from his fully stocked hentai bunker https://t.co/8BzMUtx6Aa
— zeddy (@Zeddary) March 6, 2020
Toronto has another case of #COVID19 in a traveler who acquired the infection in…..Las Vegas.
You heard that right – Las Vegas.
The USA is exporting cases and the travel history is rapidly becoming irrelevant. https://t.co/g5QpObskW4
— Isaac Bogoch (@BogochIsaac) March 6, 2020
Yes, it’s (comparatively) ‘old news’… but, for my health, I refuse to hash through this kind of crap more than once a day.
This is all that actually matters to him. https://t.co/f0WucVJmsQ pic.twitter.com/5nntRLPgok
— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) March 5, 2020
Question: Have you considered not having campaign rallies?
Trump: No I haven’t… We had tens of thousands of people standing outside the arena
Question: Is there a risk that there’s that many people so close together
Trump: It doesn’t bother me at all pic.twitter.com/ZaMc6ayK4e
— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) March 6, 2020
New: The Trump administration's insistence that containment should remain the primary way to confront COVID-19 – and repeated claims that it was working – ignored a series of alarm bells from experts inside & outside the US government
Latest w/ @wjhenn https://t.co/2Uu6iKM3Ov
— Vera Bergengruen (@VeraMBergen) March 6, 2020
"I like the numbers being where they are." EVEN IF THEY'RE WRONG. HE'S ADMITTING IT. https://t.co/V2JVe0bpAn
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) March 6, 2020
Between Trump’s base who, God help us, actually believes him, and young people emboldened by the data that this is no big deal for them, good luck keeping a lid on rapid community transmission. https://t.co/GxcxR7bVak
— Schooley “Flatten the Curve” (@Rschooley) March 6, 2020
Depending on how bad this gets, the pivot will be from “we have perfectly handled the coronavirus” to “see this is why you can’t trust the government” as if the issue wasn’t putting incompetent grifters in charge of it.
— Adam Serwer?? (@AdamSerwer) March 6, 2020
CDC staff learned about the potential coronavirus case at the agency at the same time as other Americans – when Trump mentioned it at a press conference this morning. https://t.co/osAiA93tty with @anitakumar01 pic.twitter.com/d75ofw5V37
— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) March 6, 2020
New York state coronavirus cases triple over 48 hours to 33 people infected; thousands under ‘precautionary quarantine’ https://t.co/n7hqKZCXzY
— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) March 6, 2020
The ‘Not So Much Grey, Just Dingy AF’ Lady has… no thoughts:
The President of the United States gave a ludicrous, utterly batshit briefing in which he raged about how he doesn't want widespread testing or to let those infected on cruise ships back on shore because it would hurt his "numbers," and NYT doesn't think it's worth mentioning. https://t.co/YzU85IToDv
— Susan Simpson (@TheViewFromLL2) March 7, 2020
Or, as the New York Times will put it tomorrow, “An Unconventional Press Conference From A President Who Upended The Political Establishment” https://t.co/SnrF6NWVjF
— Jamison Foser (@jamisonfoser) March 6, 2020
Maggie Haberman would let her own parents die of coronavirus if it means getting the scoop on the next Hope Hicks beat sweetener
— local jack please ban the nazis person (@pleizar) March 7, 2020
Sign of the times: CROI, the retrovirus conference, is going virtual. Slated to start Mon., organizers are now telling attendees not to travel to Boston.#Covid19 is going to be so hard on the travel/hospitality industries. And the people who work in them. https://t.co/1ytnrYMMXr
— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) March 6, 2020
Testing is a crucial component of understanding the coronavirus epidemic. The CDC has declined to make comprehensive testing numbers available, so @yayitsrob and I compiled data from the states on their testing: https://t.co/YD3NfBkyJ5
— Alexis C. Madrigal (@alexismadrigal) March 6, 2020
you know who *was* paying attention and made plans? Elizabeth Warren. *sigh*
— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) March 6, 2020
Buried in the article: Out of 3000 passengers, only 46 were tested.
*Of them*, 21 were positive for coronavirus. https://t.co/LnpOPrz6Zj
— Jeff Yang (@originalspin) March 6, 2020
The number of confirmed virus cases in the U.S. exceeded 200 and test kits remained in short supply, yet two Trump aides described the outbreak as “contained” https://t.co/qXSprzOGpa
— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) March 6, 2020
Could we wait til summer before deciding whether or not any state was good at handling covid19 as a whole
— Rui Zhong 钟瑞 (@rzhongnotes) March 6, 2020
BREAKING: The University of Washington, with more than 50,000 students, is closing classrooms and moving to remote learning amid the coronavirus outbreak. https://t.co/aKPmDgviL0
— Mike Baker (@ByMikeBaker) March 6, 2020
BREAKING: @Stanford cancels on-campus classes for next two weeks amid #Coronavirus concerns. Classes will be held online.
“Large-group events also are being canceled or adjusted.”
2 students in self-isolation after possible exposure.
— Ian Cull (@NBCian) March 7, 2020
Important to inject racism into everything, it is after all the fox brand. https://t.co/jrDcNHSkWB
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) March 6, 2020
Breaking: The New York attorney general’s office has just ordered disgraced televangelist Jim Bakker to stop misleading consumers about a fake cure for coronavirus.
— Frank Schaeffer (@Frank_Schaeffer) March 6, 2020
trash dog would be so much better https://t.co/LVKHVDcPmU
— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) March 6, 2020
So what’s the incubation period for covid19… 9 days or so? I expect that in the next 2 weeks that there will start to be panic
in the discoon the Hill as MoC start exhibiting symptons….
@sukabi: 6 days. Ranges from 2-11.
Stanford professor tested positive. Nice timing with their test. Also explains why they cancelled in-person classes.
That seems to basically be everyone’s criteria – instructor or student infected: stop instruction. My old student worker is currently in quarantine but not showing symptoms. Hopefully it stays that way. We have about a dozen students in quarantine.
Not a good development up around Redmond WA :
Looks as though they’ve halted testing because it’s sufficiently widespread that testing just puts people together and increases risk of contagion.
This predates the report of the first confirmed case in the state (on Oahu).
Mayor Michael Victorino issues Public Health Emergency Proclamation on COVID-19
Trump, being the infantile bed-wetter that he is, says he is being treated unfairly and that the COVID-19 scare is a “Democrat [sic] plot” to ruin his glorious presidency. He also indicated that he wants to “keep the people on that ship to keep the numbers down”. This guy is so stupid and clueless, he verbalizes the perpetually self-centered voice that is going on inside his tiny brain. It really is like a daily course in abnormal psychology to have this asshole as our President! Sheesh!
I’ve been saying for years that AIPAC is toxic. But did anyone listen? Noooooooo…
@Zinsky: Your description might be literally true: Internet Speculates After Trump Appears to Have Wet Pants at Tennessee Disaster Meeting
CW: There’s a picture
Has anyone seen Baron lately? Trump is definitely the type of parent who would lock him in a closet if he got sick, so no one finds out.
[email protected] It’s widely rumored that Baron lives with Melania’s parents in a DC suburb (forgot which one). Which makes sense and is believable to me.
It’s also rumored that Melania also lives there, outside of the times she needs to make public appearances. To which I say, spin it whatever way you want, of course she spends as much as possible with her kid.
Am I a terrible person for not feeling a damn bit of sympathy for anyone who willingly attends one of Twitler’s Nuremberg rallies and contracts COVID-19? Fuckem. I’ll save my sympathy for rally attendees’ family members who don’t attend those things and end up being infected anyway.
It would certainly be a morbid instance of dramatic irony if Twitler ends up killing off some of his voters because he insists on continuing to have rallies with this thing out there. To make it truly O. Henry-worthy, it would have to cost him the election, though.
My imagination has gone to some very dark places these days.
Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpublicānam esse dēlendam.
I take it Jim Bakker hasn’t read Dante, though I’m sure he invokes hell when he wants to condemn others. Ironically, the punishment for falsifiers in the tenth bolgia is to suffer horrible diseases.
At some point, and we are probably past that point, the focus is going to turn to keeping vulnerable people safe, not requiring less vulnerable populations to isolate themselves. But yeah, it’s still probably a good idea to limit major conferences, concerts, and large gatherings. I’m just not sure it makes sense to close schools.
Confirmed case of a classroom aid at a school here in Chicago. Aide taught at a special education high school. as it is not a local high school, students are bused in from around Chicago. School has various commmunitu partners as part of its spec ed programming.
I don’t think that fear of bringing people together has anything to do with this (see Trump’s remarks about his precious campaign rallies). I think that it has to do with plausible deniability. If you don’t test, then you can claim that the numbers are small and don’t matter.
So I’m psyched that AIPAC has reported two NY attendees tested positive.
Primarily because I was in DC last weekend, and some AIPAC attendees (a large number of students from Yeshiva U, which is in NYC) were in the same hotel as my family. Eating breakfast in the same room, etc. I also spoke with one or two of them. So I guess I/we will find out in a week or two whether I or my family is/are now carriers. I figure it’s a pretty low likelihood, but we’ll see.
@Martin: We’ve already cancelled all large general-public events for the next month or so (with a warning not to schedule anything new for the time being) as well as things like recruiting visits from potential new grad students (which usually take place end of March). Nothing on campus yet, so classes are still going on as normal. Dorms will remain open over spring break so that students can stay here if they want rather than risk traveling.
Cathie from Canada
So now the entire Trump Administration has adopted a unique approach to a public health crisis: flat-out lying.
If this works, they’ll all be doing it about everything from now on.
An Australian doctor was likely infected in Colorado before he flew home. Eight confirmed cases now here in my home state.
@NotMax: My husband’s son who lives in Paia told us that the Princess ship that’s currently docked of the CA coast with 21 cases stopped in Maui for shore excursions. He rides the bus all the time with the tourists, so he’s somewhat concerned. I’m glad he’s 49 and in relatively good health.
So far no cases here, but our R governor says they’ve tested “almost 17” people, whatever that means. I have zero confidence in them right now.
@Soprano2: The Johns Hopkins map (mentioned here a couple of days ago) is a great resource for seeing where confirmed cases are and their status.
Johns Hopkins Map
@SFAW: If it’s any comfort, it’s probably just about everywhere in the US and probably has been for weeks. Supposedly it was in China in November and didn’t explode until January. The US is probably looking at ever increasing cases for weeks more.
To be clear, this is just my gut feeling. I’m no expert.
We’re pretty much on our own now. We have to self-quarantine, wash our hands, be smart about being out in public, etc. There’s no magic bullet coming from the CDC or FDA any time soon.
As usual, when know-nothing idiots are in charge, disasters happen. :-(
Hang in there. Good luck to you, and to all of us.
@Another Scott: This is my thinking, too: if it is showing up in people who have no way of knowing how they got it, it’s spreading widely. I have been in five airports in the last week (Phoenix, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta), and I am not unusual. I am not feeling great at the moment, but it feels like a sinus headache, which I get a lot. It would not surprise me to learn that I’ve contracted it somehow, even though I’ve had no known contact and haven’t been out of the country in the past year.
I do have a work trip scheduled for the last week of March, which am rethinking.
@Martin: Evergreen is our healthcare provider, considering a switch to Kaiser Permanente next year.
Meanwhile, Evergreen (for now) and the CDC may not be testing in western WA, but the UW will be testing more than a thousand a day, and analyzing those tests in their lab, with an 8 hour turnaround. They do not have the intention of down-playing the virus here.
@Another Scott: The Johns Hopkins map needs to be updated. It under-reports the deaths in WA, and I think the number of cases here but I’d have to check. As of yesterday afternoon, WA had either 15 or 16 Covid-19 deaths.
Thanks. On the plus side, the cough I’ve had for the last two or so weeks was probably something I caught from my wife, who was coughing long before coronavirus started spreading in the US. So that gave me immunity from catching another one, right? [No, don’t answer, I know what reality is.]
I don’t expect I’ll be one of Santelli’s hoped-for statistics, but I also guess it’s a non-zero probability. Not worried at the moment.
@SFAW: The JH map shows 50 cases in Iceland.
@SFAW: The NY AIPAC attendees are apparently connected to the Westchester man who was the first case in that county. I think they attend the same synagogue. Also his son goes to Yeshiva U in Manhattan. I believe the mans son, daughter and wife as well as the neighbor who took him to NY Pres Hospital have tested positive. I really really hope the people you talked to don’t have it.
@Another Scott: also one in the Faroe Islands which completely blew my mind but the person apparently was I think a local Dr who went to medical conference…
You’re not cheering me up, you know.
Thanks for that info. I hope it will eventually fall into the “well that was interesting, fortunately nothing came of it” category.
OK, dead thread, but we just drove through Austria and Germany and on the border the car ahead of us, with an Italian license plate, was sent off to the side, We went through…
@Martin: The two students at my college who were exposed have tested negative, fortunately. The only time we closed completely was for the fires in 2018, and according to folks who were there, it was a mess. Switching to online only isn’t an option for us.