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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Late Night Repubs in Disarray Open Thread: Tulsa’s Virus Swap Meet

Late Night Repubs in Disarray Open Thread: Tulsa’s Virus Swap Meet

by Anne Laurie|  June 21, 20201:44 am| 88 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Trumpery, Schadenfreude

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Holy crap does @jabinbotsford have the shot of the night pic.twitter.com/FgyLeU13ir

— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) June 21, 2020

So far:
-Outdoor Trump campaign event where Pres Trump & VP Pence were to speak has been cancelled
-Overflow crowd has been moved into indoor arena
-Crowd inside arena is not full w/ empty upper levels
-Trump campaign sent out texts to supporters saying “There's still space!"

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) June 20, 2020

pivot! https://t.co/DXq2oPoTKH

— kilgore trout, a ramp with no steps (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 20, 2020

I feel so sorry for @sarahcpr right now. It’s so much.

— Bill Burton (@billburton) June 21, 2020

This was what some advisers feared/dreaded about an event they’re counting on to get the president more focused on a race they say his heart hasn’t been in for awhile. https://t.co/bQGA6VdDbc

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 20, 2020

White House officials often describe the president flipping out and making outlandish demands after reading critical headlines. I cannot imagine what he will do upon seeing the top of this piece by @shearm, @maggieNYT, and @AsteadWesley. https://t.co/zhokZgTicN pic.twitter.com/qw0ccPOQFT

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) June 21, 2020

The news/commentator split at Fox in one clip https://t.co/pWFF4xqT0E

— Blake News (@blakehounshell) June 21, 2020

the silent majority is also apparently invisible

— kilgore trout, a ramp with no steps (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 21, 2020

The rally experience might be safer for Trump’s supporters if they were encouraged to socially distance inside the arena and spread out in the sections of empty seats.

— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) June 20, 2020

Where is VP Pence as President Trump begins speaking?

Pence has left the arena to head back to DC, per @jdawsey1.

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) June 21, 2020

119,000+ Americans dead pic.twitter.com/PYiUnCayJm

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 21, 2020

Trump has been speaking for 90 minutes. No mention of George Floyd. No mention of the 121,000 Americans who died from the coronavirus.

— Colby Itkowitz (@ColbyItkowitz) June 21, 2020


There are so, so many levels of crazy here. If Brezhnev ever descended into this state, he'd be euthanized. https://t.co/lfB7BmVkO4

— Slava Malamud (@SlavaMalamud) June 21, 2020

The president's speech tonight was heavy on racist tropes, including multiple broad-brush references to rapist immigrants and a mention of the "kung-flu." These remarks go far beyond the rhetorical bounds of immigration policy disagreements in Washington. 1/

— Jose A. Del Real (@jdelreal) June 21, 2020

The president* just said his vigilantes are better than yours are.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) June 21, 2020

Trump just demonstrated that he could drink out of a water glass without any problem.

The crowd erupted in cheers of "Four More Years."

— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) June 21, 2020

Trump has spent a not insignificant portion of the rally so far talking about how good he is at walking down ramps and taking sips of water with one hand.

— Robert Maguire (@RobertMaguire_) June 21, 2020

I didn’t see a single person being blocked from entering the rally and was outside for about 5 hours. https://t.co/O9Tc5qkMpN

— Oliver Laughland (@oliverlaughland) June 20, 2020

Dude, there’s video of nobody outside your rally.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) June 21, 2020

If only we had advanced technology that would allow us to see in real time what might be happening on the ground that could contradict all of this. https://t.co/bO8eGWZz12

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) June 20, 2020

Steve Bannon is hyping Donald Trump’s upcoming rally on Fox News right now next to live footage of the spotty crowd at the arena in Tulsa.

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) June 21, 2020

Governor Stitt, who has done such a great job with COVID that the state’s curve is headed to Pluto, gets a shout-out. The energy is draining.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) June 21, 2020

An election that Yeltsin won with foreign (American) interference! https://t.co/yfM90en6xE

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 21, 2020

This one feels NOTHING like that.

This is pantomime. The audience is not invested. They're there to see the show. They are not emotionally raw and pouring emotion into the atmosphere.

It has no emotional charge.

It's a county fair crowd watching Lynyrd Skynyrd play "Freebird".

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) June 21, 2020

Trump wraps up at a rally that badly missed crowd projections. The play-off music: “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.”

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 21, 2020

BREAKING: The NYTimes courtiers seem to be turning on His Small-Fisted Majesty…

PRESCIENT QUESTION from @anniekarni @AsteadWesley @katieglueck earlier today: "Has the 3-month break from the rally circuit created a pent-up demand among TRUMP's supporters, & breathed life back into [his] campaign, or has the MAGA rally lost its luster?" https://t.co/HDWEnsbqx8

— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) June 21, 2020

If Parscale isn’t on a flight to Rio with huge sacks of unmarked bills, I’ll be amazed.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) June 20, 2020

The Trump campaign did not respond to the substance of the question: how much did the stage area, unused by the president—for whom it was specifically erected—cost?

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) June 21, 2020

Updating the number after sending additional photos…a campaign event planning director tells me the outdoor setup (minus USSS and policing costs) would be $550-$600k for staging, audio, video, LED walls, and cost of labor.

(Deleted my previous tweet) https://t.co/9qCMj2XKpo

— Yashar Ali ? (@yashar) June 20, 2020

Trump’s campaign will leave Tulsa tonight owing — in the opinions of 14 municipal government — more than $1.8 million in unpaid police and public safety costs stemming from MAGA rallies. https://t.co/nAOOSflyno

— Dave Levinthal (@davelevinthal) June 21, 2020

dark days, friends https://t.co/lnwCX7Dy7f

— kilgore trout, a ramp with no steps (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 21, 2020

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  1. 1.

    CaseyL

    June 21, 2020 at 1:50 am

    I wonder how this will affect planning for the other big rallies on the calendar.

    I also think I’m OD’ing on schadenfreude.

  2. 2.

    Kropacetic

    June 21, 2020 at 1:54 am

    When talking to oneself, I find it best to speak to a mirror, it comes across less anti-social than, say, speaking to an empty room.

  3. 3.

    Raoul

    June 21, 2020 at 1:58 am

    On my sunset walk this evening (with a bounce in my step, despite the turning of the wheel of the year towards shorter days), one of the things I wondered was, what the campaign will do to manage expectations, and (also, maybe?) drive more people into the next few already announced Covid carnivals?

    I also enjoyed imagining Trump just raging full tilt at his staff all the way back to DC in that big, fancy, lonely airplane. Yeah, he’ll have people around him, but no friends.

    His disappointing kids I suppose were on board? Ah, well, one mustn’t feel sorry for him. I mean, because he’s using up the world’s supply of feeling sorry for himself tonight!

  4. 4.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 21, 2020 at 2:00 am

    Black Lives Matter

  5. 5.

    Craigie

    June 21, 2020 at 2:00 am

    A liberal friend said tonight this is so bad, she actually feels sorry for Trump. I may be a liberal, but no way do I have enough empathy for that.

  6. 6.

    piratedan

    June 21, 2020 at 2:04 am

    whole lotta thoughts here…

    positives – kids and teens trolled the President by reserving tickets to drive up the numbers, which the President’s team crowed about only to have that particular worm turn with the less than awesome attendance in a location that should be in his proverbial wheelhouse. It made them look inept, unprepared and clueless (which they are, strangely enough)

    he gave a speech that totally ignores the headlines that have ruled the last three weeks, nary a word for those who have passed, not a peep regarding BLM and the protests against police violence. He’s unprepared to talk about those subjects, so he simply doesn’t and a nation watches those particular sins of omission.

    the rally was about him, not about his supporters, it was about him. Showing that’s he fit, showing that the press is against him, showing that he’s treated unfairly; before he cleverly equated the slights against him as slights against them, but he’s dropped that now, its full on narcissism.

    hard to say how I feel about those cultists that follow him other than I hope that they don’t infect too many others.

  7. 7.

    Eric U.

    June 21, 2020 at 2:05 am

    @Raoul: I think I saw that they are converting live events to virtual events.  Can’t see the empty seats at virtual events.

  8. 8.

    Amir Khalid

    June 21, 2020 at 2:07 am

    @CaseyL:

    Trump will not allow his campaign to start booking his rallies into smaller venues. For him, that would mean loss of face.

    What, if anything, will his campaign come up with to avoid another humiliation inflicted by Operation K-pop?

  9. 9.

    hitchhiker

    June 21, 2020 at 2:11 am

    It’s such a relief to see him flailing. I think I’m not going to know how scared I was until the day Biden actually takes the oath.

  10. 10.

    Eric U.

    June 21, 2020 at 2:11 am

    Trump saying he slowed the testing is a major scandal.  I’m trying not to think about it so my head doesn’t explode.

  11. 11.

    scav

    June 21, 2020 at 2:11 am

    Trump is just going to be so hydrated going forward.  And, no doubt, expecting cheers and applause every time he takes a sip.  The White House waiters are going to be exhausted.  Do they need a raise for all the overtime they’re going to be putting in?

  12. 12.

    Chetan Murthy

    June 21, 2020 at 2:13 am

    @Eric U.:

    I think I saw that they are converting live events to virtual events.

    Well, except Don Bedsore doesn’t get his emotional charge from virtual events: he needs the crowd to feed off of, right?  So I can’t see him being happy with that.  And since he’s the number-one audience ….

  13. 13.

    Kropacetic

    June 21, 2020 at 2:17 am

    @scav: Trump is just going to be so hydrated going forward.  And, no doubt, expecting cheers and applause every time he takes a sip.

    Good, looks like he stand to keep those walking muscles in shape, even if it’s going to and from the bathroom.

  14. 14.

    Roger Moore

    June 21, 2020 at 2:17 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    What, if anything, will his campaign come up with to avoid another humiliation inflicted by Operation K-pop?

    The obvious solution would be to start charging a nominal fee for reserving tickets.

  15. 15.

    TS (the original)

    June 21, 2020 at 2:18 am

    1. I have no idea why these cities don’t demand advance payment from the trump campaign. Has any other campaign just refused to pay?
    2. MAGA is interesting – 4 years in and they are still trying to make America great again – trump seems to have failed on that one.
  16. 16.

    CaseyL

    June 21, 2020 at 2:21 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    There’s a company called “Living Dolls” that manufactures life-like sex dolls, including a few male models. They’re expensive as hell, but Parscale has tons of Campaign Cash to spend. So… a few thousand of those, maybe? With mirrors set behind them so it looks like more?

    An audience of sex dolls would be a damnear perfect metaphor for all things Trump.

  17. 17.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 21, 2020 at 2:25 am

    Damn.

    Nickleback did Trump.

  18. 18.

    Aleta

    June 21, 2020 at 2:27 am

    Maybe they’ll wave around a study to say the empty blue seats are a proven way to socially distance or reverse the air flow in a stadium.

    He’s a loser.

  19. 19.

    Chetan Murthy

    June 21, 2020 at 2:30 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Wut?

  20. 20.

    Amir Khalid

    June 21, 2020 at 2:31 am

    @Roger Moore:

    Trump couldn’t fill more than half of BOK Center with free tickets. So I don’t know if his campaign would be keen to start charging a buck for rally attendance.

  21. 21.

    Kropacetic

    June 21, 2020 at 2:32 am

    @Chetan Murthy: Look at that photograph…Every time I do it makes me laugh…

  22. 22.

    Mary G

    June 21, 2020 at 2:33 am

    Before the rally and after the rally pic.twitter.com/GkN45452aR— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) June 21, 2020

  23. 23.

    Aleta

    June 21, 2020 at 2:34 am

    @scav:  Better remind him his EPA just allowed 4x more jet fuel in drinking water.

  24. 24.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 21, 2020 at 2:37 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Sorry, sold out the arena… the Nickels

    Are they called the Nickles?

  25. 25.

    Chetan Murthy

    June 21, 2020 at 2:39 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Oh, you mean outdid.  Gotit.

  26. 26.

    hitchhiker

    June 21, 2020 at 2:41 am

    The thing about the water is that from now on, he’s going to be called out every single time he uses two hands. That graduation event wasn’t the first time he’s done that, but it hadn’t been a thing until then.

    If he’d ignored the Lincoln Project mocking him over it, he might have been able to keep ignoring it … but he didn’t. He’s made his water-drinking style a campaign issue.

    This is what the whole summer is going to be like now. trump doing something absurd and stupid, getting mocked for it, pushing back, over and over … while the covid crisis and the economic crisis and the civil rights crisis continue to unfold all around us.

    Hope we make it into 2021.

  27. 27.

    lgerard

    June 21, 2020 at 2:51 am

    And the crowd snores!

    https://twitter.com/AlbertMacGloan/status/1274514193077743616

  28. 28.

    Calouste

    June 21, 2020 at 2:55 am

    @hitchhiker: Is there footage of the shitgibbon saluting 600 times? I assume that was a lie.

  29. 29.

    patrick II

    June 21, 2020 at 3:01 am

    I have thought that Trump playing “you can’t always get what you want” was trolling his audience.  Although that seems too clever by half for him.

    Tonight he could have trolled them with “you can’t always not get what you don”t want”.  But you won’t know because we won’t test you.

  30. 30.

    NotMax

    June 21, 2020 at 3:03 am

    If he had said “I made a boom-boom” half the crowd would have swooned.

    //

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    June 21, 2020 at 3:06 am

    @Amir Khalid

    Madison Square Closet?

    :)

  32. 32.

    burnspbesq

    June 21, 2020 at 3:11 am

    Saw a tweet that purported to show the tweeter’s text messages with a member of BOK Center staff, who said the turnstile count was less than 7,000.

    Make of it what you will.

  33. 33.

    spudgun

    June 21, 2020 at 3:19 am

    Had to share:  I was driving around my new neighborhood this evening because quarantine is making me stir-crazy and also to recce some running routes (I just moved here a short time ago from the SF East Bay) and I drove through a block with several houses on both sides of the street with bunting, American flags and one house with a massive “Trump 2020” banner. I mean, it was like a mini block party – everyone’s garage doors were open, people sitting on lawn chairs in their driveways, open coolers everywhere…it seems they were celebrating the orange shitstain’s rally at home since they couldn’t be there in person.

    I was shaken to the core, truly.

    I knew what I was getting into moving to redneckistan (I had reasons) but I was able, for a while, to kinda pretend it wasn’t there – well, as much as one can when one is surrounded by monster trucks on the road and things like that – but this was a real moment of culture shock for me.

    I can’t afford to move right now, but I am definitely going to save up so I can get my ass back to the East Bay. I don’t care if I have to live in a walk-in closet-sized apartment, I need to get the fck out of here!

  34. 34.

    cain

    June 21, 2020 at 3:20 am

    Maga people are going to be doubly outraged seeing the snoozer that Trump put on. I suppose all those people are just crises actors too!

  35. 35.

    cain

    June 21, 2020 at 3:22 am

    @spudgun:

    Good luck! I hope you make it out of there.. on the other hand, after he loses – that neighborhood is going to have a  very big sad. :)

  36. 36.

    topclimber

    June 21, 2020 at 3:23 am

    @Eric U.: Look, libtard, Trump was making a joke. Lighten up.

    As I understand it, he really didn’t talk about COVID-19 except for this jocular reference. He is trying to keep our spirits up!  Only dreary leftists want him to dwell on unhappy memories like 120K deaths and close to as many non-funerals.

  37. 37.

    RinaX

    June 21, 2020 at 3:28 am

    Less than 6200 at the rally. Lolololololol!

  38. 38.

    spudgun

    June 21, 2020 at 3:33 am

    @lgerard: I hate to say it, but…they really don’t look like the sharpest tools in the shed, do they?

    And who the fck yawns like that??

  39. 39.

    spudgun

    June 21, 2020 at 3:35 am

    @cain: Well, that’s a bright spot – I will at least be here to see their boo-hoo, sad-trombone faces…

  40. 40.

    Amir Khalid

    June 21, 2020 at 3:43 am

    @RinaX:

    I stand corrected. So, BOK Center was not even 1/3 full. Sad!

  41. 41.

    Morzer

    June 21, 2020 at 3:45 am

    @CaseyL: Funnily enough, a Korean sports team just got fined a record amount for deploying sex dolls to replace spectators…

  42. 42.

    Ruckus

    June 21, 2020 at 3:46 am

    As shitforbrains has moved deeper into all of his mental defects – and he has them – there will be some that take front and center. His narcissism is one of those, and if he has dementia that will become more apparent. But his narcissism is over whelming, it really always has been. And as he ages and it becomes his totally controlling factor, he is going to get worse. He spent what, 90 minutes basically trying to show that he didn’t screw up his West Point visit. And all his narcissism did was show that he really is unfit to live freely among other humans, let alone even be in the same state as the US president. I wonder if any of the “fans” that were at the rally actually saw and heard him, not some made up picture of him, that lives in his mind, if no where in reality. He is a time bomb of inflamed personality disorders. In a job that has no real boss that can bench him. OK, they could, but that would leave them stranded and they already signed on for the duration as co-conspirators.

    I’m at a loss, and other than just waiting it out, we are going to have to live with this disaster. moscow mitch and all of his cronies are going to destroy us by refusing to do the jobs they took an oath to do because they support this broken shell of a human being because they think they are getting what they want. Disgusting human beings. Making money off the misery and suffering of others. Wonderful world isn’t it?

  43. 43.

    spudgun

    June 21, 2020 at 3:48 am

    Erm…did anyone notice that Cole posted a link on twitter to a downloadable PDF of Walrus King Bolton’s book??

  44. 44.

    joel hanes

    June 21, 2020 at 3:54 am

    Not with a bang, but a whimper

  45. 45.

    Ruckus

    June 21, 2020 at 3:55 am

    @spudgun:

    Yeah, I live in the socal version. It looks like there are more jacked up 4×4 trucks that have never seen dirt than anywhere else on earth. People with a 30-40K truck with another 10-20K in mods that make it basically a horrible off roader. One I’ve seen is so jacked up that the bottom of the body/frame is at the top of the oversized tires. Doesn’t need wheel wells. The center of gravity must be 5 feet off the ground. Or more.

    It’s a great country isn’t it?

  46. 46.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 21, 2020 at 3:57 am

    I feel so sorry for @sarahcpr right now. It’s so much.

    She could make that 3-hour special just from tonight’s shitshow!

    -Imitate the Soviet shitpile mobster manbaby

    -Say why it’s total bullshit

    -Repeat

    LGF’s Charles Johnson, and Hal Sparks were doing the Lord’s work tonight.

  47. 47.

    Ruckus

    June 21, 2020 at 4:00 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Yep, 32%. I was hoping it was 5% less. I guess that racism is a fantastic draw for, well, fucking racists.

  48. 48.

    spudgun

    June 21, 2020 at 4:01 am

    @Ruckus: And they always manage to park really close next to me at the Safeway…all. the. damn. time. I understand a little bit since I am now surrounded by lots and lots of farmland, but I KNOW that most of the dudes (and it always seems to be dudes!) driving them don’t do ANY kind of work that requires such a vehicle.

    *sigh* I sure miss my Democratic rep., DeSaulnier…now I have Tom McClintock, who is loop-de-loop crayzee.

    Well, at least we have mail-in ballots, right?  :-D

  49. 49.

    JaySinWA

    June 21, 2020 at 4:04 am

    @CaseyL: Brad may bill for the premium “living doll” but he will probably get the cheap inflatable ones. I first thought faceless mannequins, maybe for rent, but inflatable dolls would be more their style.

    I seem to recall a business for filling stadiums with people props for movie making, maybe they have an inflatable crowd for rent for low budget types.

  50. 50.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 21, 2020 at 4:05 am

    @Calouste: Is there footage of the shitgibbon saluting 600 times? I assume that was a lie.

    “My hands are so tiny and baby-like, but so heavy!”

  51. 51.

    Ruckus

    June 21, 2020 at 4:22 am

    @spudgun:

    Ain’t no farmland anywhere near me. If you want to take a drive you can go out to the desert. Of course most of that is closed to vehicles.  I like that people purchase a vehicle which they modify, which causes it to get less fuel milage, so that it looks like an off roader, most of which never seem to see any dirt under their wheels.

    Did see something one doesn’t see often, even around here and that is a late 70s Ford Ranchero. With a side exhaust pipe that turned up and stuck out about 6 inches from the body, the pipe was between the door and the rear tire. Strangest piece of crap I think I’ve seen in a very long time.

  52. 52.

    NotMax

    June 21, 2020 at 4:26 am

    @JaySinWA

    For the ‘if it’s on TV it must be true’ audience they could go the route of Spanish f#250;tbol.

  53. 53.

    Amir Khalid

    June 21, 2020 at 4:27 am

    CNN tells me that Trump wants a law against burning the US national flag. It was my understanding that burning the flag has long been held by the courts to be constitutionally protected free speech. Any thoughts from American jackals?

  54. 54.

    rikyrah

    June 21, 2020 at 4:51 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Wasn’t this issue settled during the Clinton years???

  55. 55.

    JWR

    June 21, 2020 at 5:04 am

    So how long before Trump’s tossing an empty glass routine becomes his “cool” move, which is just like Obama dropping the mic at the WHCD?

    Granted, Obama had just delivered a brilliant, witty speech, while all Trump had to do was successfully drink a glass of water, but they’re practically the same, right?

  56. 56.

    Cermet

    June 21, 2020 at 5:13 am

    @Amir Khalid: Where is the logic in out lawing burning the flag? That is, by law, if the US flag touches the ground or is in any way defiled, one way it can be disposed of is by …wait for  it … burning it! By definition, a protester using the flag in any discraceful manner is defiling it so burning it isn’t just legal but the proper thing to do! LOL

  57. 57.

    sukabi

    June 21, 2020 at 5:28 am

    Haven’t read through the thread yet, but the number for the night is < 6700

    https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/1274571867886583808?s=20

  58. 58.

    cs

    June 21, 2020 at 5:28 am

    Random thought because I can’t sleep: Biden needs to invite BTS to play his inauguration if he wins. A big thanks to the kpop stans who’ve already accomplished so much this year, and will probably do much more.

  59. 59.

    sukabi

    June 21, 2020 at 5:33 am

    @Amir Khalid: burning the flag is the approved method of retiring a damaged or worn flag. It’s in the flag code for proper handling.

  60. 60.

    rikyrah

    June 21, 2020 at 5:34 am

    "We??built??this??joint??for??free". Best 3 minutes of civic engagement I've seen in a long time. @GaryChambersJr #keephopealive #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/DqyTeSIOUx— Makela Clay (@luckysiu) June 21, 2020

  61. 61.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 21, 2020 at 5:42 am

    @rikyrah: The Supreme Court ruled in 1989 that laws against burning the flag were unconstitutional.   The Republicans in 1992 wanted to propose an amendment to make burning the flag illegal(I’m not sure how that would works since(as noted above) the proper way to dispose of the US flag is to burn it).

  62. 62.

    Amir Khalid

    June 21, 2020 at 6:01 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    I remember George Herbert Walker Bush grumbling about that Supreme Court ruling.

  63. 63.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 21, 2020 at 6:15 am

    Updating the number after sending additional photos…a campaign event planning director tells me the outdoor setup (minus USSS and policing costs) would be $550-$600k for staging, audio, video, LED walls, and cost of labor.

    Except this is Trump and Trumps never pay their debts.

  64. 64.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 21, 2020 at 6:25 am

    @piratedan: hard to say how I feel about those cultists that follow him other than I hope that they don’t infect too many others.

    That rally is really drink the poison coolaid to show you the great man you are a true believer moment.  That’s what makes it striking the number of people there who were keeping their distance.

  65. 65.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 21, 2020 at 6:37 am

    @Amir Khalid: CNN tells me that Trump wants a law against burning the US national flag. It was my understanding that burning the flag has long been held by the courts to be constitutionally protected free speech. Any thoughts from American jackals?

    Typical Trump not understanding shit; the courts have upheald flag burning for decades. If the actual US flag laws were enforceable a lot Trump’s own fan bois would be in trouble with the disgusting way they treat the flag.  Not to mention, who on the Left burns a flag these days? We are the real Americans, not those wannabe Nazis.

  66. 66.

    Jeffro

    June 21, 2020 at 6:57 am

    @Ruckus: well said!

    I suggest we all just let fly today.  Let it all out like the horrified citizens of an abused country that we’ve been these past four years.

    I for one am THRILLED that the slow humiliation of Donald J(im Jones) trumpov is underway.  Get the tar and feathers ready, America.

  67. 67.

    DAVID ANDERSON

    June 21, 2020 at 7:07 am

    1. New professional goal: Don’t get into a social media battle with teens and Kpop-stans.
  68. 68.

    JPL

    June 21, 2020 at 7:26 am

    @DAVID ANDERSON: Well he did manage to have 6200 out of the hundred thousand they were expecting.

    His next rally he’s going to do a rendition on how great this one was.

  69. 69.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 21, 2020 at 7:40 am

    I tried to watch the video of Trump bragging about the TVs on AF1, and I couldn’t do it, not even to make fun. Poor Sarah Cooper indeed.

  70. 70.

    Matt McIrvin

    June 21, 2020 at 7:55 am

    @Cermet: One detail there is a myth: The US Flag Code says the flag shouldn’t touch the ground, but it doesn’t say that touching the ground defiles it such that it can’t be used again. (I believed that myself for many years, and when I was a kid, our next-door neighbors actually burned a flag because it had momentarily touched the ground. But it’s not in there.)

    The rule about disposal is for flags that are too worn-out or dirty to use any more.

    Also, it’s worth mentioning that the whole US Flag Code is non-binding; like the Pirate Code, it’s more like guidelines.

  71. 71.

    Ken

    June 21, 2020 at 7:56 am

    @JPL: His next rally he’s going to do a rendition on how great this one was.

    Yeah, I can easily see him getting into a recursive pity-fest and wasting half the time at each rally with lies about how great the last one was.

  72. 72.

    Matt McIrvin

    June 21, 2020 at 7:58 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: The “thin blue line” flag helpfully provides us with an already-defiled variant that surely isn’t the US flag at all. Burning Confederate battle flags is also a lot of fun.

  73. 73.

    Ken

    June 21, 2020 at 8:00 am

    @spudgun: And who the fck yawns like that??

    He’s probably one of the ones who slept two nights on the concrete outside the arena to make sure he’d get a spot.

  74. 74.

    Ken

    June 21, 2020 at 8:01 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Trump bragging about the TVs on AF1

    It’s certainly an outside-the-box answer to “What do you consider your greatest accomplishment as President”.

  75. 75.

    Kristine

    June 21, 2020 at 8:25 am

    @JWR:

    So how long before Trump’s tossing an empty glass routine becomes his “cool” move, which is just like Obama dropping the mic at the WHCD?

    Did the glass break is what I want to know. Smashing a glass after drinking is so…Russian.

  76. 76.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    June 21, 2020 at 8:46 am

    My heartfelt thanks to the TikTok Teens and K-Pop Stans who fucked up the attendance figures at Trump’s stupid rally.

    This song is for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afam2nIae4o

    Its title best sums up my feelings towards these wonderful young folks.

    Between now and Election Day, I look forward to people finding different ways to ridicule, humiliate, and embarrass this pathetic excuse for a President.

  77. 77.

    different-church-lady

    June 21, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @lgerard: “WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR CHIN??”

  78. 78.

    Another Scott

    June 21, 2020 at 9:17 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    I have always admired Stevens' dissent in the flag burning case because he says, in effect, it's abhorrent and I didn't fight the war for this, I can't vote for it but it's nothing to do with the law.

    — Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) June 21, 2020

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  79. 79.

    Another Scott

    June 21, 2020 at 9:21 am

    @lgerard: “Mommy!  I’m tired.  When can we go home!!”

    Poor kid.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  80. 80.

    Cameron

    June 21, 2020 at 9:25 am

    @JWR:  When do the comparisons with Thirsty Lil’ Marco Rubio start?

  81. 81.

    Miss Bianca

    June 21, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @cs: I like that idea!

  82. 82.

    Ksmiami

    June 21, 2020 at 10:33 am

    @Jeffro: every Republican Senator or Congress shithead that went along with this Shambolic infantile Authoritarian fraud needs to be defeated, destroyed and disappeared forever. I can never forgive their failings as Americans and as human beings. You may not know this yet but they’ve doomed us to a  very grim future.

  83. 83.

    WaterGirl

    June 21, 2020 at 11:31 am

    @rikyrah: That was linked here a couple of times yesterday, but it was a shorter video and I kept wondering what was specifically being decided on at the meeting and what the outcome was.

    So if anyone watched it yesterday, it’s worth watching this one again.

    I googled, and at the end of the meeting, the board voted UNANIMOUSLY in favor the of the name change.

    I love this man.  So smart, such a compelling speaker, and he knows 100x more history than I do.

  84. 84.

    Ruckus

    June 21, 2020 at 12:27 pm

    @hitchhiker:

    If he’s focused on his crowds and “campaigning” maybe he won’t have time and hate for screwing all but the rabid supporters who think life is so good they can assemble without worrying about a pandemic that he has also failed at doing anything about. Also if he keeps doing this and a bunch of his supporters die off, won’t his chances become even smaller? Of course there will be innocent people killed by his malfeasance as a human.

  85. 85.

    Anonymous At Work

    June 21, 2020 at 12:45 pm

    Word of Advice to City/County/State Officials:

    When dealing with the Trump campaign coming to visit, I have one word for you: Escrow

  86. 86.

    Ruckus

    June 21, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @JPL:

    Did you see the video of him getting off the helicopter at the WH? That is a beaten caricature of a human being. He knows he got his ass kicked and I’d bet he knows that he is going to lose. There is nothing he’s capable of to save this now. Not trying to get cocky but the kids done good, setting him up for obvious failure that he is too stupid to figure out how to fix. He’ll never cede the low road and that is what is required to even attempt to fix this, and he’s not even close to decent enough to pull that off.

  87. 87.

    Jackie

    June 21, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    @Ruckus: I quickly saved that pic! I hope to post it to some RWNJs come Nov 4.?

  88. 88.

    Jess

    June 21, 2020 at 2:23 pm

    The light at the end of the tunnel is the glow from all those empty blues seats…

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