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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 Coronavirus / COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Friday/Saturday, Oct. 23-24

COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Friday/Saturday, Oct. 23-24

by Anne Laurie|  October 24, 20206:02 am| 37 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19 Coronavirus, Foreign Affairs

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BREAKING OVERNIGHT: US sets new daily record with more than 77,000 new coronavirus cases reported on Thursday, topping the previous record in July. https://t.co/eMkBhfcDD6

— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 23, 2020

Friday:

U.S. breaks daily record for coronavirus cases with over 84,000 new infections https://t.co/txde530nqj pic.twitter.com/I4WPiaEjtI

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020


Dr. Fauci says the last time President Trump has attended a coronavirus task force meeting was “several months ago.”

“Direct involvement with the president in the discussions? I have not done that in a while.” pic.twitter.com/UaingyDNGf

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) October 23, 2020

“We’re more than 8 months into this crisis and the president still doesn’t have a plan,” Joe Biden says. “He’s quit on America. He just wants us to grow numb and resigned to the horrors of this death toll.”https://t.co/3tAJAhYyrQ

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) October 24, 2020

remember when mike fuckin pence wrote a wall street journal op-ed in june vehemently denying there was a second wave of coronavirus and then at the end of june crowed we were in a much better place
remember mike fuckin pence is still the head of the covid19 task force https://t.co/umf8xDG29N

— darth™ (@darth) October 23, 2020

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Russia confirmed 16,521 Covid-19 cases Saturday, bringing its official number of cases to 1,497,167. A total of 296 people have died in the past 24 hourshttps://t.co/1VxrI6s78y

— The Moscow Times (@MoscowTimes) October 24, 2020

A number of Russian regions risk facing a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic that is 10 times worse than the first, a senior Russian vector-borne disease expert has saidhttps://t.co/zSnqWNx9TX

— The Moscow Times (@MoscowTimes) October 23, 2020

A helicopter has flown a COVID-19 patient from the Netherlands to a German intensive care unit. It was a noisy reminder of how the coronavirus is again gripping Europe and straining countries’ health care systems. https://t.co/YcZxjIrOK4

— AP Europe (@AP_Europe) October 23, 2020

BREAKING: France has reached over 1 million confirmed virus cases amid pandemic's resurgence, French health authorities say. https://t.co/P7pJmajDnS

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 23, 2020

Italy's COVID cases hit new record, Campania region set for lockdown https://t.co/Wpu3mwo0Dd pic.twitter.com/eKEsCmudr2

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 23, 2020

Spain's prime minister appealed to the country to pull together and defeat the new coronavirus, warning "the situation is serious." Spain recently became the first European nation to surpass 1 million officially recorded COVID-19 cases. https://t.co/W6In7E4x6P

— AP Europe (@AP_Europe) October 23, 2020

Germany's confirmed coronavirus cases rise by 14,714 to 418,005 – RKI https://t.co/6kviSXBoQK pic.twitter.com/3ofH0jsCwH

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020

Poland's President Andrzej Duda has tested positive for the coronavirus, his spokesman said on Twitter, adding that he is well and in isolation. Duda's diagnosis comes amid a surge in the number of confirmed new infections and virus deaths in Poland. https://t.co/GftU504PlX

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 24, 2020

Czech Republic's coronavirus daily tally tops 15,000 for first time https://t.co/eqNGFZEcza pic.twitter.com/hyg64HDJOz

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020

“We can’t preach water and drink wine." The Czech Republic's prime minister calls for the resignation or firing of his health minister after he was caught visiting a Prague restaurant amid strict COVID-19 measures. https://t.co/7SX8gb1PL4

— AP Europe (@AP_Europe) October 23, 2020

Asia becomes second region to exceed 10 million coronavirus cases https://t.co/d2JK7ONotV pic.twitter.com/M1203bSYRO

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020

… Behind only Latin America, Asia accounts for about one-fourth of the global caseload of 42.1 million of the virus. With over 163,000 deaths, the region accounts for some 14% of the global COVID-19 toll.

The Reuters tally is based on official reporting by countries. The true numbers of cases and deaths are likely much higher, experts say, given deficiencies in testing and potential underreporting in many countries.

Despite the Asian spikes, the region overall has reported improvement in handling the pandemic in recent weeks, with daily caseloads slowing in places like India – a sharp contrast to the COVID-19 resurgence seen in Europe and North America…

New studies show an association between severe pollution and a spike in Covid-19 cases and deaths.https://t.co/GKcwCARGOm

— BBC News India (@BBCIndia) October 24, 2020

Australia's COVID-19 hotspot sees more school cases before easing curbs https://t.co/fy1XPOVF76 pic.twitter.com/xWr7yAVrKj

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020

Brazil reports 30,026 new coronavirus cases, 571 deaths https://t.co/bhhrP5DoQf pic.twitter.com/nZli4nCRso

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020

Mexico reports 6,604 new coronavirus cases, 418 more deaths https://t.co/cr75vrt8kk pic.twitter.com/3MxVXIbDKH

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020

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The false promise of herd immunity for COVID19 https://t.co/hk58fHjrHW

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) October 23, 2020

Clinical trial for AstraZeneca/Oxford University's Covid19 vaccine has resumed in US, the only country where the trial was still suspended after a patient became sick 6 weeks ago https://t.co/d26ZfU8vgL pic.twitter.com/EvxYkgmYdy

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) October 24, 2020

Modeling from @IHME_UW suggests universal mask wearing could avert 130,000 US deaths from #Covid19 in the coming months. https://t.co/4iva5f5uOT

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) October 23, 2020

“We are concerned [a #Covid19 vaccine EUA] would interfere with longterm assessment of safety & efficacy in ongoing trials & potentially even jeopardize product approval. & not only the first vaccine, but maybe even follow-on vaccines.” — @US_FDA's Gruber. https://t.co/UpKvblvTe9

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) October 23, 2020

Johnson & Johnson will resume its COVID vaccine trial in the US. J&J said it is "planning to resume recruitment" for the phase 3 trial, which began in Sept & should ultimately have 60k participants. The trial was suspended when a volunteer got sick https://t.co/3NroPdDPBv pic.twitter.com/zPEX7CiKsY

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) October 24, 2020

WHO: Nations mulling Gilead's COVID drug should consider trial flop, too https://t.co/nesfD7iaZR pic.twitter.com/WqvJMkS6n9

— Reuters (@Reuters) October 24, 2020

Since this has been ‘trending’ on my twitter sidebar all day:

Back in March, a study on how long the coronavirus lasts on surfaces fueled what one author called “the great fomite freakout.” People scrubbed everything from mail to groceries.

It's time to reassess. Here’s what we now know about surface spread 1/ https://t.co/vHtXMREFxb

— WIRED (@WIRED) October 22, 2020

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WaPo headline: "Covid-19 hospitalizations increased in 38 states over the past week"

Who could have predicted? https://t.co/JSdZVaVf68

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) October 23, 2020

A Wisconsin court has put a hold on the governor's restrictions on the size of indoor public gatherings. The order comes as coronavirus cases surge in the state and represented a setback to the efforts of Gov. Tony Evers to slow its spread. https://t.co/goWy2d52do

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 23, 2020

Missouri's health department says its number of hospitalized patients has been underreported since Oct. 17 because of a flaw in the federal reporting system. The COVID Tracking Project says 5 other states have "anomalies in their hospitalization figures." https://t.co/oIJVnoGqjI

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 23, 2020

What happens when science leads……. pic.twitter.com/9Eirn1ncli

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) October 23, 2020

Ingrates:

INBOX: Per a survey from Arizona State’s Global Sport Institute, 2% of Big Ten-area undecided voters are “much more likely” to vote for Trump because he took credit for B1G football’s return.

Meanwhile, 7% say they’re “much less likely” to vote for him because of it. pic.twitter.com/hKGRseHvMT

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) October 23, 2020

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  1. 1.

    YY_Sima Qian

    October 24, 2020 at 6:26 am

    Yesterday, China reported 0 new domestic confirmed cases and 0 new domestic asymptomatic cases.
    Yesterday, China reported 28 new imported confirmed cases and 27 imported asymptomatic cases:

    • Shanghai Municipality – 9 confirmed cases, 2 Chinese nationals each returning from Israel and the Philippines , 1 each from Germany and Ethiopia, a Belgian national coming from Belgium (via Copenhagen), a Ukrainian national coming from the Ukraine (via Schipol) and a Russian national coming from Russia (via the UK)
    • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 9 confirmed cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from Nigeria, and 1 each from the US, Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Myanmar and the Philippines; 12 asymptomatic cases, 5 Chinese nationals returning from Nigeria, 3 from Congo (Kinshasa) (via Kigali), and 1 each from the Philippines, Lebanon, Uzbekistan and the Ukraine
    • Tianjin Municipality – 3 confirmed cases, 2 Chinese nationals returning from Algeria (via Paris CdG) and a Kazak national coming from Kazakhstan; 2 asymptomatic cases, a Chinese national returning from Guinea (via Paris CdG) and a Kazak National coming from Kazakhstan
    • Xi’an in Shaanxi Province – 3 confirmed cases, all Chinese nationals returning from Uzbekistan
    • Beijing Municipality – 2 confirmed cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Pakistan
    • Xiamen in Fujian Province – 2 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Singapore and the Philippines
    • Fuzhou in Fujian Province – 4 asymptomatic cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from the Philippines and 1 from Indonesia
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 6 asymptomatic cases, 4 Chinese nationals returning from Pakistan and 2 from Malaysia
    • Zhengzhou in Henan Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Chongqing Municipality – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Nepal

    Today, Hong Kong reported 5 new cases, 1 from local transmission, source of transmission unidentified.

  2. 2.

    Mary G

    October 24, 2020 at 6:34 am

    California is rising again overall, but the OC isn’t as much. We had 162 new cases found in more than 12,000 tests. Six deaths, five nursing home patients and one assisted living resident. Wish we could get that under control. New cases per 100k stayed the same at 4.6. All the counties around us are worse. I would think it would have to go up here too eventually. It is all very very very very very very very scary.

  3. 3.

    opiejeanne

    October 24, 2020 at 6:36 am

    My niece’s husband has been a volunteer for testing Moderna’s vaccine. He told us yesterday that it’s in phase 3, the final round, and he says that so far it seems to be very good. The plan is to release it to the public early next year, the cost will be about $32. He also says almost 90% of providers approve of it and will have early enrollment for the vaccine.

    I have no idea if this vaccine is effective or if what they’ve told him is true.

  4. 4.

    low-tech cyclist

    October 24, 2020 at 6:53 am

    A Wisconsin court has put a hold on the governor’s restrictions on the size of indoor public gatherings. The order comes as coronavirus cases surge in the state

    Shorter right-wing courts: “the Constitution is too a suicide pact.  Welcome to Jonestown, U.S.A.”

  5. 5.

    Cermet

    October 24, 2020 at 6:55 am

    I wonder – if there are going to be a few very different vaccines (that use differnt methodologies to protect), will it be allowed by health companies to have more than one type given per person? That is, after getting one type, a few weeks later get another? It would certainly hedge one’s bet and assuming these are very low risk vaccines and Covid is so deadly , wouldn’t that be far more cost effective?

  6. 6.

    opiejeanne

    October 24, 2020 at 6:57 am

    @Mary G: Scary is right. Stay safe, please.

    Washington state has a far smaller population than California, only 7.6 million residents, smaller than LA County, and most of our population lives west of the Cascades.   We have over 102,000 cases and  had 820 new ones yesterday, according to the Seattle Times, That’s a lot of new cases for us. 2296 deaths since early February, with 7 new deaths on Friday, but our numbers are rising again and now Idaho is going to send some of their patients to Seattle and Portland, OR, because their hospitals are full. Because their governor did nothing to prevent the spread of this disease.

    I’m a bit worried about Covid-19 but I’m more angry with Red state governors and legislatures not urging precautions.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 24, 2020 at 7:00 am

    A Wisconsin court has put a hold on the governor’s restrictions on the size of indoor public gatherings.  The order comes as coronavirus cases surge in the state and represented a setback to the efforts of Gov. Tony Evers to slow its spread.

    Coffee-drinking dog: This is fine.

  8. 8.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 24, 2020 at 7:01 am

    Since Tuesday, the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Service’s coronavirus dashboard has posted a message that the total number of patients hospitalized for COVID-19 has been underreported since Oct. 17. The note blamed “challenges entering data” to the portal used by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services for collecting daily hospitalizations around the country.

    Hmmm, now that’s interesting. I haven’t seen any such message when I’ve looked, which is every 2nd or 3rd day. I wonder where exactly they are posting it?

    ETA: And I still don’t see it. Gonna have to dig I guess.

  9. 9.

    JR

    October 24, 2020 at 7:02 am

    @Cermet: If you’re effectively immunized, taking a different vaccine out of schedule is just going to elicit a (potentially dangerous) immune response.

  10. 10.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 24, 2020 at 7:04 am

    @opiejeanne:

    The plan is to release it to the public early next year, the cost will be about $32. 

    $32,000,000 with insurance.  And, no, it’s not covered.

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    opiejeanne

    October 24, 2020 at 7:06 am

    @Cermet: That crossed my mind too.

    Possibly there will be a more effective vaccine in a year or two, but I expect that when that happens we will still need an annual booster shot, just like we need a new flu shot every year.

    I read an article recently that pointed out that herd Immunity doesn’t occur without vaccines and only when a very high percentage of people are vaccinated, and that there is no herd immunity for any respiratory virus.

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    October 24, 2020 at 7:06 am

    Trends currently approaching a half a million new cases reported per day worldwide.

  13. 13.

    opiejeanne

    October 24, 2020 at 7:08 am

    @mrmoshpotato: No, I’m sure Moderna is doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 24, 2020 at 7:09 am

    @JR: Immunized by “good genes” or “Excuse me.  Excuse me.  Bigliest brain talking here.”?

  15. 15.

    opiejeanne

    October 24, 2020 at 7:09 am

    @NotMax: The horror. The absolute horror.

  16. 16.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 24, 2020 at 7:14 am

    @opiejeanne: I’ll believe it when Cindy Lou Who gets a free vaccine.

    ?heart’s a dead tomato splotched with moldy purple spots?

  17. 17.

    Ked

    October 24, 2020 at 7:18 am

    News stories about record case numbers (in the US) are such a disgusting mess because there’s no official national tracking, and so there are differing numbers from the three (or more) major tracking efforts. For a while the JHU numbers were the most quoted, there’s the COVID-19 Tracking Project by someone, and my personal favorite is Worldometers (old-fashioned web design for the win) though they seem to keep kinda-wonky GMT day timings.

    This is the first place I saw Thursday’s number listed as a record – most places had it as the third or fourth highest to date, beaten out by peak days in July. Everyone seems to agree that Friday was the worst day for detected cases in the US.

    …that said, the weekly reporting cycle problem appears to be more exaggerated now than it was in July, and the 7-day average is still about 4k under the peak then. Not sure what that says about testing/reporting. Not going to argue it’s headed in the wrong direction.

  18. 18.

    Amir Khalid

    October 24, 2020 at 7:20 am

    Malaysia’s daily Covid-19 numbers. DG of Health Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah reports a record 1,228 new cases today, for a cumulative reported total of 25,742 cases. He also reports seven new deaths, for a total of 221 deaths — 0.86% of the cumulative reported total, 1.32% of resolved cases. Six new clusters were identified today.

    1,217 cases are from local infection. Sabah, the state at the centre of the current wave, has 889 cases: 500 in all clusters, including eight in the new Mesra and Megah clusters and 434 in the Kepayan prison cluster; 253 close-contract screenings;and 136 other screenings. Negeri Sembilan has 96 cases: 54 in the new Kaya cluster, the rest in existing clusters. Selangor has 76 cases: 27 in all clusters, including one in the new Bah Kayu cluster; 36 close-contact screenings; and 13 other screenings. Kedah has 76 cases: 74 in existing clusters, and two persons back from high-risk zones in Sabah.

    Penang has 23 cases: 19 in existing clusters, three close-contact screenings, one other screening. Labuan has 21 cases: 20 in existing clusters, one close-contact screening. KL has eight cases: four close-contact screenings, Perak has 10 cases: five in existing clusters, and five other screenings. Sarawak has eight cases: three from the new Baki cluster, three close-contact screenings, and two other screenings. Johore has seven cases: five in the new Kempas cluster, one close contact screening, and one other screening. Melaka has three cases: two close contact screenings, and one other screening.

    11 cases are imported, all reported in KL.

    671 more patients recovered and were discharged today, for a total of 16,555 patients recovered — 64.31% of the cumulative reported total. 8,966 active and contagious cases are currently in hospital; 92 are in ICU, 32 of them on ventilators.

    The seven deaths, all but one reported in Sabah, are an 88-year-old man with hypertension; a 60-year-old man with hypertension, asthma, and gout; a 62-year-old man with diabetes; a 75-year-old man with hypertension; a 72-year-old man with dyslipidæmia, Parkinson’s disease, and cataracts; a 47-year-old man with hypertension and chronic kidney disease; and a 63-year-old man in Penang with diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, chronic kidney disease and hydrocephalus.

  19. 19.

    PsiFighter37

    October 24, 2020 at 7:21 am

    We will be over 100k cases a day next week…what a disaster.

  20. 20.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 24, 2020 at 7:26 am

    @PsiFighter37: Is that when Dump will threaten to sue the virus?

    Biden is inaugurated Nov 4th, right?

  21. 21.

    Mousebumples

    October 24, 2020 at 7:30 am

    Re Wisconsin Court decision –

    The Appeals Court is citing a 4-3 May State Supreme Court ruling from a 5-2 conservative judicial makeup.

    One of the 4 has since been replaced (in August) by the liberal that won the pandemic Judicial election in April. Here’s hoping for a reverse effect when the case gets back to the State Supreme Court. (and here’s hoping the terrible GOP state reps and state Senators are widely outvoted in 11 days!)

  22. 22.

    Cermet

    October 24, 2020 at 7:43 am

    Normally I avoid single studies that do not include a placebo group; however, the methodology of action of aspirin makes perfect sense to why it would most likely dramaticly reduce deaths and serious medical side effects in very ill Covid-19 patients. Blood clots caused by the Covid virus in the blood stream is the biggest danger for most people – aspirin reduces the clotting ability of platelets – this mechanism by aspirin on clotting is welll understood (however, the virus might compromise this action so this might not be the actual reason.) Do note that these people were, of course, taking the ‘baby’ size dose. These results are priminary and have not been put through the “Gold Standard” test, so this study could be wrong or the resuilts due to other factors – not highly likely but possible. In all things, caution towards intial results is essential. Read the results and draw your own conclusion.

    See: https://journals.lww.com/anesthesia-ana … 95423.aspx

  23. 23.

    trnc

    October 24, 2020 at 7:51 am

    @low-tech cyclist:

    Here’s some actual good news from PA.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/pennsylvania-court-ballot-signatures-431794

  24. 24.

    Rusty

    October 24, 2020 at 8:14 am

    @Cermet: I heard a person working on one of the vaccine trials discuss this.  What is likely is people at higher risk will get something like the Moderns vaccine since it will likely get approved first. But it’s hard to ramp up manufacturing of that vaccine, it requires two doses and extreme refrigeration.  Most of will probably get something like the J&J vaccine.  It will get approved later, but is easier to manufacture, one dose, etc.  By the time we can actually get the vaccine after the high risk people, the J&J or one like it will be more available and likely for us.  And from another source, yes, we may get a less effective but available vaccine first, and a more effective one later when it’s finally available.

  25. 25.

    p.a.

    October 24, 2020 at 8:22 am

    Maybe every judge voting against medical recommendations should be dragged from home Friday and Saturday evenings and be forced to sit for 2-3 hours in a sports bar.

  26. 26.

    TS (the original)

    October 24, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @low-tech cyclist:

    Shorter right-wing courts: “the Constitution is too a suicide pact.

    Pure insanity – one can only hope they are killing off the trump voters.

  27. 27.

    Dog Mom

    October 24, 2020 at 9:41 am

    @Cermet:  Would like to see the study, but the link doesn’t work . . .

  28. 28.

    catclub

    October 24, 2020 at 10:44 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: yeah, the fact that DURING a PANDEMIC they broke the hospital reporting system and replaced it with a kluge made by Jared Kushner has rolled off the news.

  29. 29.

    Sloane Ranger

    October 24, 2020 at 10:46 am

    Late (I slept in), but better than never. Here are yesterday’s numbers from the UK.

    We had 20,530 new cases (about 700 less than the previous day). Cases by home nation are:

    England – 17116 (down @250)

    Northern Ireland – 1252 (up @200)

    Scotland – 1401 (down @300)

    Wales – 761 (down @300).

    The latest R rate is 1.2 to 1.4, which is a bit down from before. In terms of new cases reported over the last 7 days, Northern Ireland is very high, 381.4 per 100,000 of population compared to England – 180.5, Wales – 182.8 and Scotland – 151.8.

    Deaths – there were 224 deaths reported yesterday, up by about 30 from Thursday’s figures. 188 were in England, 5 in Northern Ireland, 18 in Scotland and 13 in Wales.

    Testing – 340,132 tests were processed out of a capacity of 361,573. The number of positive tests has increased by nearly 25% over the last week.

    Hospitalisations – 7706 people were in hospital as of Wednesday, 23rd October. 707 were on ventilators as of Thursday, 24th. As expected given the increase in cases, both of these figures continue to trend upwards.

  30. 30.

    Ksmiami

    October 24, 2020 at 11:07 am

    @low-tech cyclist:  eradicate all Rt wing hack judges

  31. 31.

    J R in WV

    October 24, 2020 at 11:37 am

    @p.a.:

    Maybe every judge voting against medical recommendations should be dragged from home Friday and Saturday evenings and be forced to sit for 2-3 hours in a sports bar.

    This is a good idea, but let me refine it for you:

    …every judge voting against medical recommendations should be dragged from home Friday and Saturday evenings and be forced to sit for 2-3 hours in a sports Karaoke bar.

    What do you think about that idea?

  32. 32.

    nwerner

    October 24, 2020 at 11:54 am

    @opiejeanne: 

    Not sure where you live but the King County dashboard is excellent with data down to individual neighborhoods and trends over time.

    https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/daily-summary.aspx

  33. 33.

    thalarctosMaritimus

    October 24, 2020 at 11:59 am

    @Dog Mom: I think this is the link Cermet is referring to: link.

  34. 34.

    Brachiator

    October 24, 2020 at 2:09 pm

    @JR:

    If you’re effectively immunized, taking a different vaccine out of schedule is just going to elicit a (potentially dangerous) immune response.

    Coming late to a probably dead thread, but just wanted to make a note of possible future issues.

    People refusing to take a vaccine shot.

    People trying to get multiple vaccines shots, if they are available, and taking them out of schedule.  Don’t know how dangerous this will be for any individual, but it may reduce the availability of certain vaccines.

  35. 35.

    opiejeanne

    October 24, 2020 at 2:13 pm

    @nwerner: Thanks. The numbers in my area (Woodinville) are not real great but not as bad as Seattle.

  36. 36.

    grandmaBear

    October 24, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    My ex died this morning in California. He was diagnosed with a mild case in a nursing home on Thursday, then admitted with a high fever and considerable trouble breathing last night. This can escalate very fast.

  37. 37.

    JaneE

    October 24, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    I have seen case numbers ebb and surge in my little community about 3 or 4 times now. Numbers go down to 0-2, and the masks come off. A week or so later the numbers are 4-6. Masks go on again. We were in the next to bottom tier, but may well regress, it depends on what the exact numbers are. I see the people complaining and not following the guidelines as the reason we are still largely shut down. I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

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