Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires Republicans to act in good faith.

If you can’t control your emotions, someone else will.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

Trump should be leading, not lying.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

“Facilitate” is an active verb, not a weasel word.

The fight for our country is always worth it. ~Kamala Harris

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

The revolution will be supervised.

I’m starting to think Jesus may have made a mistake saving people with no questions asked.

Bark louder, little dog.

President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.

Not loving this new fraud based economy.

Stay strong, because they are weak.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

SCOTUS: It’s not “bribery” unless it comes from the Bribery region of France. Otherwise, it’s merely “sparkling malfeasance”.

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  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    Anderson Cooper: “This attempted coup by President Trump”.

    Fuck you, Republicans. All of you.

  4. 4.

    Quinerly

    @Baud: do you have which ones? I’m on MSNBC. I don’t think their coverage is that good on this but I like Katy Tur. She’s like a friend talking to me. She’s so upset.

  10. 10.

    Bruuuuce

    I really wish the commenters on MSNBC would use plain language. “Thugs” would be good. So would “goons”. Best would be “brownshirts”

  11. 11.

    citizen dave (aka mad citizen)

    @Baud: Got word from someone at my work the event in Indianapolis was a caravan of about 9 vehicles yelling on their P.A.s with Gadsden flags and German Shepherds somehow included.

    As someone on one of Cheryl’s twitter links said, this is one of the worst days in our history

    But hoping it encourages more of us on the good side to stay involved and bring in new people to the democracy.

  13. 13.

    germy

    Ok. I said let’s do an audit. Let’s not get carried away here. I don’t want anyone hurt. We are protesting the violation of our laws. We are builders not destroyers. BLM burns and loots. We build. If anyone on the ground reads this and is beyond the line come back. pic.twitter.com/cSu6CLKbby— Paul Gosar (@DrPaulGosar) January 6, 202

    Gosar tries to unring the bell.

  14. 14.

    jackmac

    This coup attempt is astounding, but not surprising.

    Time for a quick bill of impeachment in the House, a fast conviction in the Senate and removal of this MFer, frogmarched out of the Oval. It can all be done by evening.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Andrew Clevenger @andclev 11m
    @RepGallagher , a Marine veteran, on CNN right now saying he hasn’t seen anything like this “since I deployed to Iraq.” Says Chinese are watching and laughing at America. “The president needs to call this off…. Call it off, Mr. President. You need to call it off.”

    Someone told me this goober is from Wisconsin. Is it the seast that Quiverful MTV Boy gave up

    he’s on MSNBC right now

  18. 18.

    Punchy

    The MAGA mindset appears to be that if they cannot certify the electors on Jan 6th as the law (Constitution?) demands, the cert is null and void and Trump remains in office.  Could be wrong, but storming the Capitol during the count seems aimed at delaying the process so they can claim a technical miss

  19. 19.

    Debbie(Aussie)

    Bloody hell! Didn’t expect to wake up to this. Unbelievable. You are all (US citizens), especially jackals, in my thoughts. Take care. Was glad to hear that, so far, it’s only trumpists. JFC! Just heard trump, what a fucking idiot.

  21. 21.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Jonathan Martin @jmartNYT 1m
    The Virginia National Guard and 200 state troopers are being sent to DC, per a top Va official.

  22. 22.

    germy

    There’s a disconnect (as usual) between what I see on the network news and what I see online.

    CBS just reported that “no protesters have gotten inside the chamber” and then I look online and see a MAGAT inside.

  24. 24.

    dr. bloor

    Listening to Mike Gallagher share his shock over the fact that lunatics are following the lead of the head of his party makes my stomach turn.

  26. 26.

    germy

    Rep. Elissa Slotkin tells @MSNBC that we are going to depend on the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "because the president is going to get even crazier in the next two weeks."

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 6, 2021

  29. 29.

    Timurid

    So the plan is apparently to stall certification of the election indefinitely…

    With Federal law enforcement and DC National Guard ordered to stand down, the rioters can stage an extended sit-in and make the Capitol unusable for days or weeks.

    If they try to convene Congress at an alternative site, Republican members will object on procedural grounds and/or leak the location so that the MAGA mob will show up and start the cycle over again.

    On 1/20, the election will still be technically in progress so Biden cannot be legally inaugurated. If Congress is still out of commission they can’t even implement the fallback option (Pelosi) when Trump’s term officially ends.

    This is going to all be on the DC Mayor and DC police. But, considering typical police demographics, will the DC cops obey orders to clear the Capitol?

  36. 36.

    Bruuuuce

    Every single non-LEO/non-Congressperson we see inside and outside the Capitol needs to be charged with sedition, and all of them convicted and given a cell that used to belong to a nonviolent drug offender.

  41. 41.

    jonas

    The last time I felt what I’m feeling now was the morning of September 11. My brother called early in the AM and told me: turn on the TV — some crazy shit going down in NYC. Passenger planes crashing into the WTC. I turned on just in time to see the fire and the first tower fall and thought “This is the end of the world.”

    Trump has to be impeached, convicted and removed from office the second the Capitol grounds are secured and Congress can reconvene — today if possible. He’s still in office for another two and half weeks and will do everything in his power to burn the country to the ground. Hopefully even his fucking cowardly enablers up until now in Congress have seen that now.

  49. 49.

    randy khan

    @Timurid:

    It doesn’t work that way.  If somehow the process for counting EVs doesn’t happen, Pelosi becomes President no matter where she is.

  50. 50.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Word is Virginia is sending their national guard to support the DC police. I suppose it makes sense the DoD just sees activating the DC guard as the excuse Trump is looking for makes sense now.

  51. 51.

    Cheryl Rofer

    Mags is shocked, shocked

  52. 52.

    citizen dave (aka mad citizen)

    I said to a work friend, Putin having drinks and laughing his ass off tonight.  A few minutes ago ABC news person saying this chaos is likely beyond anything Putin imagined in 2016.

    My add-on is: Kinda like the Saudi hijackers didn’t think the buildings would actually fall (not actually sure about that so anyone can correct me).

    Yes, this is a 9/11 feel.

  53. 53.

    mali muso

    Ralph Northam is sending Virginia Nat’l Guard and Virginia State Troopers to assist.  What a moment.  Help coming from Richmond to DC to liberate it from Neo-confederates.

  54. 54.

    randy khan

    @Bruuuuce:

    Sedition is a nice word, but the actual crime is treason.  For all of the  inaccurate uses of that term for the last four years, this is an attempt to levy war against the United States, so it’s treason.

  56. 56.

    cain

    @Baud:

    I bet Cruz wont’ be – I bet this whole thing have shaken all the GOP to their core. It was all fun and games until this.

  63. 63.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Timurid:

    Congress is still out of commission they can’t even implement the fallback option (Pelosi) when Trump’s term officially ends.

    If there is not a certification of election results by Congress, the Speaker becomes Acting -President at noon on the 20th.  Congressional action is not required, only inaction.

  65. 65.

    Baud

    By the way, the certification doesn’t have to be completed today in case people are spreading rumors that this will help Trump.

  68. 68.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Cheryl Rofer: the 25th is activated by a majority vote of the cabinet, right? /half kidding, if I were serious, or thought there was a chance, I’d look it up

  72. 72.

    Mary G

    Pure speculation, which I know Adam frowns on, but I’m guessing some MAGAt accidently discharged his weapon and hit a fellow protester. Gun control now.

  76. 76.

    Brachiator

    I am at work and am not following everything going on.

    Is it really this crazy?

    Insurrection by the idiot fringe?

  83. 83.

    Kelly

    Sergio Olmos of Oregon Public Broadcasting is a good follow for protests in Oregon. Most recent post reports Oregon Legislator Dallas Heard is inciting the crowd in front of the Capitol Building in Salem. These assholes busted out windows to force their way in a few weeks ago. A few were arrested.

    twitter.com/MrOlmos

  85. 85.

    Leto

    On MSNC video, person with a crowbar breaking into one of the doors/windows. Just hacking away.

  86. 86.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    @Baud: I can’t quite fault the capitol police for failing to plan for the should-be unthinkable. Consider the possibilities: Trump might have suppressed information that would have allowed them to plan for this.

    If they were fully informed, of course, the most horrible of intellectual injuries is wishful thinking, and anyone tasked with providing security should know that in spades.

  87. 87.

    debbie

    A co-worker just told me Ivanka tweeted that the protesters were American Patriots. The tweet was later deleted, but I hope someone got a screenshot so it can be used in her trial for treason.

  88. 88.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    don’t know if it’s live, but I’m watching video of some MAGAt swinging a crowbar at a door of the US Capitol

    The networks should be very careful about the video they show. Just put up a graphic that says “earlier today” or something.

  89. 89.

    PenAndKey

    @Brachiator:

    I am at work and am not following everything going on.

    Is it really this crazy?

    Insurrection by the idiot fringe?

    I’ve been in meetings for the last three hours and this is what I came back online seeing. Yes, it really does appear they’re trying for it, and succeeding as well as you’d expect the idiot brigade to do.

  90. 90.

    Cheryl Rofer

  95. 95.

    TS (the original)

    Trumps goons have been wanting to do this since the 2016 rallies.  If this were a BLM protest they would all have been arrested before they got to the capitol.

    Waking up to this on the other side of the world  nothing to call it but an attempted coup.  So trump is responsible for allowing a virus to spread unchecked through the US & for a group of his  delinquent minions trying to overthrow the government as well as the 4 years of unfettered, unresponsive incompetent government.

  96. 96.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: The good news, comparatively, is that Pelosi’s officially the Speaker of the House again as of January 3, so she’s back in the line of succession.

    I wonder how seriously she’s considering impeaching Trump all over again.

  97. 97.

    Miss Bianca

    @Wapiti: Like my Representative elect, Gun Bunny Boebert. Very tempted to call up her office and ask her if she still thinks it’s cute to support sedition and treason. As soon as I think I can trust myself to speak.

  99. 99.

    jonas

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:  We’re finding out over the past four years how much of our Constitutional order relies on Congress, courts, even executive branch offices consistently being occupied by people who could be relied upon to put the country and the Constitution over their own political loyalties. Let a bunch of craven, self-interested, cowardly choads through the door, though, and constitutional self-governance becomes impossible.

    “A republic…if you can keep it.”

  100. 100.

    Captain C

    Am I paranoid in thinking that once this is brought under control, there should be a thorough sweep for bugs and whatnot wherever the rioters got to?  If I were any organization who might benefit from a few discreetly-placed devices in the Capitol environs, and had presence and means in D.C. to slip a few convincing Trumpists in among the real ones, I’d be doing so right now.

  104. 104.

    Bruuuuce

    @randy khan: From Findlaw:

    According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States:

    • To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to level war against them;

    • To oppose by force the authority of the United States government; to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States; or

    • To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.

    Sounds pretty much on the nose to me.

  107. 107.

    Leto

    @debbie: as soon as she hit send, it’s forever. I’m sure a screen grab will be circulating later.

     

    @Cheryl Rofer: And the 25th won’t be exercised, and impeachment won’t happen. We have no ability to have a proper functioning government with these people, as has been demonstrated for the last four years, and is really laid bare today.

  110. 110.

    PenAndKey

    One thing I haven’t seen mentioned but came to me after I saw the attacker lounging in Pelosi’s office: what sorts of secrets and other classified information do congressional staff keep in their (supposed to be) secure offices? If it’s anything, wouldn’t this compromise all of it?

     

    Edit:

    @Captain C: This too. I can’t think of a better way to distract from completely compromising Congress than what’s going on right now. Ever single person involved in this criminal conspiracy, from the ones actually in the building to the ones egging them on, needs to be investigated and when appropriate charged with sedition. What’s the point of laws if we won’t enforce them for literally the type of scenario they were made to prevent?

  113. 113.

    Matt McIrvin

    @citizen dave (aka mad citizen): 9/11 was worse (on the day–this year as a whole is way worse than 9/11) because for several hours, we didn’t even know how many hijacked planes were out there. I remember adding up all the reports I’d heard and thinking there might be 8 planes and some car bombers.

    This… once the VA National Guard gets in they’ll probably be able to secure the Capitol from these imbeciles, then Congress can get on with it, maybe tomorrow.

    And Paul Campos is right, they need to immediately impeach and convict Trump for inciting and abetting insurrection against the United States, which is not to say they will. They should do what they can to get this fucker out of the way and away from the nuclear codes and the chain of command. Pence can finally enjoy his big prize for a couple of weeks. It’ll be a bit inconvenient for collectible tchotchke purposes to suddenly have Biden be the 47th President instead of the 46th, but eh.

  116. 116.

    different-church-lady

    So troops are showing up from areas all around to protect the U.S. Government from a mob that supports… THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

  120. 120.

    Leto

    Ralph Northam@GovernorVA
    My team and I are working closely with @MayorBowser, @SpeakerPelosi, and @SenSchumer to respond to the situation in Washington, D.C.

    Per the Mayor’s request, I am sending members of the Virginia National Guard along with 200 Virginia State Troopers.
    3:29 PM · Jan 6, 2021·

  123. 123.

    The Pale Scot

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    that goober with the long vape

    He’s riffing off Dr Hunter Thompson.

    SACRILEGE!!

     

    I so wish the Dr was here to write about this shit. I imagine if he could have covered Trump’s 2016 campaign

  126. 126.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    DC police need to surround the whole place and prevent the insurrectionists from slinking away. There needs to be accountability.

  128. 128.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Katie Tur describing a video: A rioter is trying to take down the US flag to replace it with a trump flag

  130. 130.

    Kelly

    I’ve worried about this since carrying rifles to protests became commonplace. I didn’t think it be this. The Oregon Capitol invasion of a few weeks ago should have been a clue.

  132. 132.

    Brachiator

    Jaysus Fucking Christ!

    GOP assholes didn’t see that the match Trump was lighting was going to light a bomb.

    Stupid muthafuckers.

  135. 135.

    TaMara (HFG)

    So Trump supporter on scafolding is tearing down the flag from the capitol and replacing it with a trump flag.

    That says everything anyone ever needs to know about the trump presidency.

  137. 137.

    Immanentize

    @Leto: screen grabs galore! The app version, the mobile version and the black background version are already circulating.

  139. 139.

    PenAndKey

    @Cheryl Rofer: I’m serious, do these idiots not realize that mugging it up in front of cameras while committing severe federal crimes isn’t something they’re going to be able to get away with? Even if Trump isn’t impeached and immediately charged with instigating an attempted insurrection all of his wannabe browncoats sure as heck aren’t getting out of this.

  144. 144.

    MomSense

    Holy shit.  And we were supposed to dialogue with these motherfuckers and find common ground?  Fuck that.

  145. 145.

    Steeplejack

    Once again Trump has done what he does best: reveal how fragile and/​broken our institutions are. This has been a massive failure of law enforcement at the Capitol today, but it also has been a massive failure of intelligence. Law enforcement agencies have built up their intelligence-gathering operations over the years, but they concentrate on “Antifa” and “radical black organizations” and miss (or condone?) the actual white seditionists under their noses.

    This thought prompted by MSNBC’s report that suspected explosive devices have been found in the Capitol. That certainly shows an element of advance planning, not just stalwart citizens being overcome by emotion in the heat of the moment.

    Rev. Sharpton made a good point on MSNBC a while ago: where are all the DHS troopers who were present in such large numbers at the Black Lives Matter rallies? Rhetorical question.

  146. 146.

    jonas

    @LongHairedWeirdo:  I can’t quite fault the capitol police for failing to plan for the should-be unthinkable.

    As far as I know, the Capitol police are their own force and answer, technically, to Congress, not the President. My impression is that, in a replay of what we saw in other cities this summer, police “play it cool” when gun-toting white guys are “protesting,” and get provocative and violent when it’s black marchers. I think they were trying to indulge these fanatics and things got out of hand.

  147. 147.

    Percysowner

    @Cheryl Rofer: Well, these idiots will be easy to prosecute, considering they are putting their faces online while committing crimes. That assumes, of course, that democracy and law and order win.

  150. 150.

    different-church-lady

    “Pro Trump extremists” just came out of my NPR radio machine. Like some country in Africa you never paid attention to while you were waiting for Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me to come on.

  151. 151.

    Ian

    @Parfigliano:

    I am becoming increasingly irate with that framing (not yours, just the framing in general)

    I don’t want my legislators to look back, I want them to look around RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.

    Trump’s actions on the Georgia Call and today merit another impeachment.

  154. 154.

    trollhattan

    @Brachiator:

    The GOP today: “I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed.”

    Hope soon to be AG Garland has been getting his sleep and eating his Wheaties.

  156. 156.

    Immanentize

    @Leto: I am hoping for career ending.

    I guess it depends on how this all sorts out.  I am getting a distinctive Heavens Gate cult feeling right now.  Hope that continues.

  158. 158.

    Cheryl Rofer

  160. 160.

    L85NJGT

    “You know you got to stop them at the beginning, like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, They should never’ve let him get away with that. They were just asking for big trouble.”

  161. 161.

    sdhays

    I’m listening to the Washington Post’s live stream, and I’m struck by the vacuum the Republicans have created in this moment. The people who are acting are Speaker Pelosi, Mayor Bowser, other Democratic members of Congress, Governor Northam in Virginia. Nothing about McConnell or McCarthy doing anything more than whining. Nothing from the President. Biden’s going to address the nation, so the President-elect is going to, once again, be doing the President’s job before he’s even inaugurated.

    And now the mob is talking about “going after” CNN and MSNBC for “starting the fire”.

  163. 163.

    eponymous

    Where the hell do we go with our anger?? Cops taking selfies with terrorists? Half the Repubs cheering it on, half mealy-mouthing it. These fuckers seem to think they are invulnerable.

  167. 167.

    Spanky

    @PenAndKey: If they weren’t idiots they wouldn’t be there in the first place.

    And any cops taking selfies with these motherfuckers arw in a heap of shit. Mega-idiots.

  172. 172.

    narya

    Nebraska republican dipshit on CSPAN giving pence a tongue bath and also saying “we’re not the party that is violent.” Yes you are, asshole mfker.

  174. 174.

    Jinchi

    Ironic that Trump sends his brownshirts into the Capitol on the same day that James Comey tells Biden that Trump should not be federally prosecuted for his crimes.

  176. 176.

    different-church-lady

    @sdhays: Supposedly McCarthy is begging Trump by phone to make a stronger statement to get people to stand down. thereby proving that McCarthy is a bigger idiot than any of us ever knew.

  179. 179.

    Amir Khalid

    I’m following the ABC News coverage on YouTube now. It’s 05:07 right now. I am horrified.

  181. 181.

    trollhattan

    I’d like to remind all of what happened 1.21.17: close to, or the largest protests seen in this fair land and all were peaceful, and represented all Americans, not just one demographic. Certainly  the largest march I’ve ever been part of.

    That was America. Today, I do not know what this is.

  183. 183.

    Bruuuuce

    You’re wrong, Mr President-elect. This day does not “border on sedition”; it hits it square in the bullseye. (But you’re correct, it IS insurrection.)

  187. 187.

    Leto

    I’ll be honest when I say that I’m tired of Biden saying, “this doesn’t reflect who we are.” I know that he has to rise to a higher level, but I’m so tired of hearing that. 74M people said: yup, sign me up for more of this! I know he can’t say what Ruben Gallego said, above, but I just can’t. Not today.

  195. 195.

    Jazzman

    “If I was you, I’d give up this Nazi bullshit. Go back to poaching gators–safer.”
    –Marshall Raylan Givens to the dimwitted wannabe-Nazi Dewey Crowe on TV’s “Justified”

    And I’d swear that smug yahoo with his muddy boots up on Nancy Pelosi’s desk used to run meth in Harlan.

  197. 197.

    Punchy

    So do they continue the cert process when this ends (presumably tonight), or re-start tomorrow?

  201. 201.

    JanieM

    @PenAndKey:  I’ve had a fleeting question run through my thoughts all afternoon, something along the lines of: What are they on, that they’re being this stupid?

    Then I realized that what they’re high on is their own stupidity. Heck of a drug.

  203. 203.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Leto: I’ve said for years that if ya think Republican politicians are awful, their base is even worse. Just hideous people.

  205. 205.

    Martin

    Start shooting. Insurrections are not police operations. They are acts of war. Send in the military. Don’t allow this mode of thinking to continue – if you try to overthrow the government, you will be treated the way we treated the Nazis.

    And try every member of congress who supported this of treason.

  206. 206.

    Kent

    Biden is so very much the leader we need right now.  He has so grown into this position.  Now he is doing Trump’s job for him. Effective.

  207. 207.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    “President trump, step up”

    just the right words to make him squirrelly.

  208. 208.

    Chris

    @Steeplejack:

    It’s a failure that goes back at least a hundred years, into the good old days when J. Edgar Hoover obsessively pursued civil rights and antiwar groups while refusing for decades to so much as lift a pinky finger to investigate the KKK or the Mafia. The entire security state is set up, psychologically if nothing else, as an anti-Left and anti-“Those People” task force, which completely ignores right wing terrorists or even miscellaneous apolitical criminals – ignores  and sometimes actively colluded with.

    “Hitler in Los Angeles” is a depressing look at what it was like to be an antifascist in the 1930s, and how little help the cops (not just the feds) were.

    It’s almost enough to make you nostalgic for that turd Allan Pinkerton, who however sordid his career was, did start out running an Underground Railroad way station.

  209. 209.

    jonas

    @different-church-lady: 

    Of course every time a GOP politician calls on Trump to “call off” his brownshirt insurrectionists, they’re reaffirming the fact that he’s the one who instigated all this.

    Impeach the motherfucker NOW.

  210. 210.

    Martin

    I love that Biden apologized for the delayed statement because he was watching an insurrection unfold.

    Dude, it’s okay. We get why things were delayed.

  213. 213.

    JPL

    This is in Atlanta ..   ( the other link above didn’t work)   Klansman in the Capitol building looking for the SOS   link

  214. 214.

    Kent

    @cain:

    @Kent:

    I noticed that CNN calls them Trump inspired rioters – still unwilling to call them domestic terrorists.

    Well, I think that is accurate.  Insurrectionists yes.  But they aren’t technically doing actual terrorism right now.  There is a distinction between rioting and terrorism.

  216. 216.

    Leto

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I’ve known more than a few, military and being from the South and all, but yeah. Some of the more die hard, don’t even bother. Some of the more country club are the milquetoast you expect, but at this point they’re all the same for me.  Trumpublicans. Fuck calling them Republicans. Trumpov has subsumed them. Call them what they are now (besides seditionous traitors): Trumpublicans

  217. 217.

    different-church-lady

    “We’re so much better than this.”

    I’m not so sure, Joe. I haven’t been sure about that for over four years.

  218. 218.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Martin: They’re white so they won’t be shot. Police will probably bring them food before too long. Getting close to dinner time.

  219. 219.

    M31

    they all need to be locked up and not processed until after Jan 20, otherwise Trump will pardon them

  221. 221.

    jl

    I heard a reporter say on air that ‘no-one expected something like this’. Seriously?

    My reaction has been rapidly churning between disgust, alarm, and hilarity. Most of the hilarity is from the corporate media reaction. They’ve suddenly realized that the Trumpsters and their GOP allies are a bunch of malicious, hypocritical cowards.

    Edit: who always act and speak in the purest bad faith.

  222. 222.

    catclub

    @Percysowner: Well, these idiots will be easy to prosecute, considering they are putting their faces online while committing crimes. That assumes, of course, that democracy and law and order win.

     

    Also assumes Trump does not pardon them all. Just like Carter pardoned draft dodgers.

    ETA: It does not take an arrest to be pardoned.

  228. 228.

    Rusty

    Can we call them deplorables now?  Now system can survive if the people running it act in bad faith, no system.

  229. 229.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Trump’s taped message starts with, “The election was stolen from us”, followed by “go home”, followed by “This was a fraudulent election.”

    He needs to be impeached stat.

  232. 232.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    I called it, Trump is now throwing his own thugs under the bus after they broke the law for him. They are saying Trump ordered the National Guard help the police with the Capital. Everything I have seen he speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

  238. 238.

    jl

    @Leto: Probably too much to hope for, but maybe there will be a very small start at correcting the two legal and police standards towards the US population. One for conservative whites, another for everyone else.

    At least the GOP crack-up will be dialed up towards 11. Wonder what the die-hard Trumpster proletariat reaction will be to seeing their revolutionary leaders in Congress being mau-mau’d by the corporate mean ‘man’?

  241. 241.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Remember when people called him “America’s Mayor” because he told people which trains were running when the emergency response center was blown up because he wanted it to be close enough to use to bang his then-mistress, who is now the wife he’s divorcing so he can run around with another mistress?

    Shane Goldmacher @ShaneGoldmacher 38m
    The president’s lawyer, earlier today: “Let’s have trial by combat”

  242. 242.

    Steve in the ATL

    @JPL: 

    This is in Atlanta .. ( the other link above didn’t work) Klansman in the Capitol building

    To be fair, that’s not unusual. Many of them are republican elected officials!

  243. 243.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @catclub: What would be in it for Trump? The terrorist served their purpose and punished Pence for not doing what Trump wanted.  Likely Trump will start calling his own supporters Antifa and send the Prison Cops to shoot them just so Trump can paint himself as law and order.

  245. 245.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    See the Whiskey Rebellion for how this should be handled. To be fair, then it was Aristocrsts v. The Rabble so it was okay to shoot white insurrectionists.

  247. 247.

    sdhays

    The delay for the call up of the DC National Guard comes back to DC not being a state. Maybe we can leverage this moment to get DC statehood done.

  248. 248.

    jl

    Rubio tweeting any Bible verses? I have one: ‘the wise man walks with eyes in his head, the blind fool falls in the ditch’. Forget whether that is from Ecclesiastes or Proverbs.

  252. 252.

    jonas

    The image of those insurrectionists tearing the US flag down from the Capitol and hoisting Trump’s needs to be run in every ad against every Republican in every election from now to eternity.

  253. 253.

    Martin

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Hey man, good to see you again.

    I don’t know. If this doesn’t cause white people to be shot, nothing will. Trump supporters have prevented the peaceful transition of power in the US. We start wars over this.

  255. 255.

    jl

    @sdhays: I heard a report that the request for a national guard deployment in DC has to be processed through the Department of Defense.

  256. 256.

    M31

    can’t wait for the emails between the rioters and Trump and misc GOP shitheels to come to light

  257. 257.

    natem

    For years liberals defended protestors taking over lunch counters at Woolworths and administrative buildings at UC Berkeley, but suddenly have a problem with what Trump supporters did at the Capitol today.

  259. 259.

    Amir Khalid

    ABC News just showed video of Trump addressing the rioters. Again with that “we won the election” lie. That’s just adding to the rioters’ grievance. He’s not helping the situation at all.

  260. 260.

    PenAndKey

    @catclub: Also assumes Trump does not pardon them all. Just like Carter pardoned draft dodgers.

    You know, I’d say there’s not a chance he tries that because it’s a guaranteed way to ensure he is impeached, prosecuted, and given the full punishment of the law, but I wouldn’t put it past him.

  262. 262.

    Richard

    @Baud: now we can see them.  now we can see how they protest.

    they have been this way for a long time. it seems as if they like violence. Why not give them a little small no account state and let them run that state according to their principles? Heck, let’s give them 3 or 4 states. Several come to mind.

    Sorry, we are keeping Los Angeles, Tucson and El Paso. Also San Francisco and most of Chicago and New York. Salt Lake City gets a special dispensation because Mormons.

  264. 264.

    jl

    @Jinchi: Trump is still hiding in an undisclosed location, but tweeted that his people need to respect the police, since that is what his movement stands for.

  267. 267.

    Sloane Ranger

    I can’t help wondering if the votes can’t be counted today due to this attempted coup, whether Trump will start a lawsuit tomorrow claiming that any subsequent count is clearly unconstitutional and/or unlawful as it didn’t take place on the due date and he should stay on as President until a rerun of the election can take place.

  268. 268.

    Steve in the ATL

    @natem: yes, that’s correct.  And liberals are correct now just as we were then.  So whoever wrote this can fuck right off.

  272. 272.

    Steeplejack

    Trump throwing gasoline on the fire: “Go home, but, yeah, the election was stolen.”

  273. 273.

    LuciaMia

    The president’s lawyer, earlier today: “Let’s have trial by combat”

    Great, cause today looks like we’re already degrading into a Game of Thrones’ world.

  274. 274.

    Captain C

    This sounds like a high school student making a forced apology for a vicious prank gone wrong, lest his parents’ money not be enough to save him from expulsion.

  275. 275.

    JanieM

    @Quinerly:

    they probably think Trump will pardon them

    That’s using the term “think” rather loosely….

    ETA: I doubt they think that anyhow, because he’s emboldened them to think they’re going to “win.” So they won’t need a pardon.

  276. 276.

    jonas

    @Jinchi: As Cheryl noted above, Pence issued a surprisingly unequivocal denunciation of this shit. I guess he and Trump are officially on the outs now, so he has nfltg. McConnell, I think, had just finished speaking about how this whole “stolen election” nonsense was dangerous and anti-democratic just as shit started to go down.

  279. 279.

    jl

    @Captain C: The top Trumpsters, from the boss on down are all acting like that. They have been driven insane by fear and desperation. The crimes must be much bigger and more slam dunk that we know, which should not be a surprise, though the depths have yet to explored in detail. Then add to that the civil suits and debt, and debt collectors, and who knows what else.

  280. 280.

    Ken

    @M31: is the two hour debate on accepting Arizona’s results up yet?

    How I’m hoping the rest of it goes:

    PELOSI: We now receive the electoral ballots from Georgia.

    RABBLE:  We object! Must debate alleged fraud!

    PELOSI: No objection being heard, the ballots are accepted.

  281. 281.

    Bruuuuce

    @Richard: No states. No counties. Not even backyards. If they think violence is the way, let the cosplay thugs go to Angola and survive in their libertarian paradise. Fsck them and the horses they so dearly desire to have ride them like the animals they are.

  283. 283.

    Kent

    @Sloane Ranger:I can’t help wondering if the votes can’t be counted today due to this attempted coup, whether Trump will start a lawsuit tomorrow claiming that any subsequent count is clearly unconstitutional and/or unlawful as it didn’t take place on the due date and he should stay on as President until a rerun of the election can take place.

    Who knows what he might claim.  But if Biden’s inauguration is delayed in any way we have interim president Pelosi.  He doesn’t leave office. The office leaves him on January 20.

  284. 284.

    Ken

    @Sloane Ranger: and he should stay on as President until a rerun of the election can take place.

    Because he’s disappointed he didn’t turn Texas blue the first time, and lose by 400 electoral votes?

  285. 285.

    taumaturgo

    Get the popcorn. The white supremacist’s mob rule has begun and is being televised. The American flag has been taken down and conservatives of both parties are on the run or hiding. Rumors are floating that Trump will pardon all the participants and hand them the Presidential medal of honor. Stay tuned as the police will gently request the rioters to please leave the premises.

  287. 287.

    Mel

    @raven: All I can say to that video is: Thomas Browning from NJ, vile little shit, may you be the first tried for treason.

  288. 288.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Sloane Ranger: He’s been spewing lawsuits like that anyway; the pretext hardly matters. At this point the worry that something or other will lead to Trump pulling some procedural bullshit is, I think, not worth worrying about, because he’ll try anyway and nothing he does possesses any valid logic.

  289. 289.

    Immanentize

    @jl:

    Malicious, moronic and stark raving mad is a bad combination.

    It used to be “drunk, fat and stupid is no way to go through life.” Things have certainly gone downhill.

  291. 291.

    Central Planning

    I heard Ossoff was called the winner.

    Sadly, I think that will cause more insurrectionists to lose their shit.

  292. 292.

    jl

    @Kent: Good point. But I also heard on the news that perfectly legal and constitutional and procedurally correct for Congress  to recess for a day, or finish the official ceremony of recognizing the EC count outside of chambers.

    But, I guess, yeah, if they file more idiotic lawsuits a few Congresscrimers resort to every trick in the book, we can have a temporary Pelosi administration.

    I think there was a very short term situation like this in 19th century, but due to much more mundane circumstances, and now an obscure detail, the temp president’s name a piece of arcana. But for this episode, Pelosi might get a pic in the WH for posterity.

  295. 295.

    jl

    @mrmoshpotato: Josh Marshall, who watches that stuff we don’t have to, tweeted that Fox News is very concerned about the failure of the Capitol Police to control the situation, and if you think about it enough, kind of their fault, in some vague way.

  296. 296.

    Brachiator

    @Steeplejack:

    Once again Trump has done what he does best: reveal how fragile and/​broken our institutions are.

    Institutions depend on trust, a social contract and consent. Always inherently fragile. Trump doesn’t care about any of this. He tried to turn the government and the country into an extension of his ego needs.

     

    This has been a massive failure of law enforcement at the Capitol today, but it also has been a massive failure of intelligence. Law enforcement agencies have built up their intelligence-gathering operations over the years, but they concentrate on “Antifa” and “radical black organizations” and miss (or condone?) the actual white seditionists under their noses.

    Intelligence usually assumes an evil Other. White guy Larry is not going to investigate his best buddy Darryl or his neighbor Jim Bob.

    It’s kinda like “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.” The stupid British intelligence agencies refused to believe that one of their own would be the spy. Someone from the same class, same school, same club.

  297. 297.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Baud:

    MSNBC reporter says more police on site , slowly getting control. 

    Remember not to be too nice to these fascist shitstains as they’re thrown into the backs of police trucks.

  300. 300.

    mrmoshpotato

    @jl:

    very concerned about the failure of the Capitol Police to control the situation 

    Burn Fox “News” to the ground.  What weaselly shit.

  303. 303.

    Ken

    @Leto: Trumpublicans. Fuck calling them Republicans. Trumpov has subsumed them.

    That is, if I recall correctly, roughly what one of Trump’s sons was saying to the crowd earlier today. There’s no difference between the Republican party and Trump.  Kind of a modern take on “l’état, c’est moi”.

    At the time I thought he using it to threaten those Republicans who didn’t support Trump with a loss of support, but maybe the family had more in mind. It may come out at the trials.

  306. 306.

    Mary G

    @Sloane Ranger: He can file all the lawsuits he wants. I can’t see even Alito doing anything but dismiss it immediately. Judges know the rule of law must be upheld in these extreme situations. They’ve already had the target pinned to their back by these chuds by dismissing the lawsuits that got to them.

    Plus, Republicans all over the country are drinking heavily because the blowback is going to be bad.

  309. 309.

    Mary G

    I’m glad to hear so many representatives saying that they are going to resume the debate as soon as the building is cleared, tonight if possible.

  310. 310.

    Feathers

    @Brachiator: Someone has put up the Alec Guinness “Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Thief” up on YouTube. I think that will be what I watch to get away from this. It’s a channel where the guy who runs it has done the incredible work of putting Spanish subtitles onto lots of TV adaptations of classic mystery novels.

    Also, I have reached the gin and dark chocolate level of doomscrolling/TV watching on this.

  312. 312.

    Subsole

    @Leto: I agree, only because I assime it is easier to seal team 6 his ass if he’s in a foreign country.

    I ‘ll shut up now.

    But goddamn! I watched peaceful people, on their knees singing hymbs, get the fuciin’ basij treatment, and these assholes are yukkin it up snapping selfies??

    Fuck this.

    Whatever I can do to crush this party, root and branch. Money, voluntering. I don’t care. Fuck these people.

  314. 314.

    Subsole

    @Richard:  No.

    Fuck them.

    They want land, they can move their worthless asses to Siberia.

    They get no part of our inheritance.

    They said they would rather stop being American than be American with us.

    Fuck them.

  317. 317.

    LuciaMia

    saying that they are going to resume the debate as soon as the building is cleared,

    Debate? After all of this, theyre seriously saying insisting this phony ‘debate’ should continue??

  318. 318.

    Another Scott

    @Cheryl Rofer: Larry was slow.  Ralph was very fast.

    If anyone was wondering what I pulled @GovernorVA aside to tell him about ? t.co/5bnPGRQ9oY

    — Alena Yarmosky (@ayarmosky) January 6, 2021

    Just spoke with @GovernorVA’s Chief of Staff. They got the call asking for help from DC while he was at the podium and had things ready for Governor Northam to approve as soon as he was finished. Great job guys!

    — Ben Tribbett (@notlarrysabato) January 6, 2021

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  319. 319.

    Original Lee

    @PenAndKey: Any classified information is supposed to be secured in a safe before the last cleared person leaves the office, every day.

  321. 321.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    @Edmund Dantes: I only suggest the possibility that Trump had the proper authorities lie to the Capitol police, to play down the risk, because appropriate security precautions would have been a bad look.

    I won’t argue if you feel, for example, that even if the right people lied to them, they *still* should have seen it coming. Maybe they should have; I don’t know, I don’t do that sort of analysis. I merely offer that possibility as a suggestion, since it’s the way Trump does things – demanding that people ignore the reality if it looks bad.

  324. 324.

    J R in WV

    @Leto:

    FUCKING FIRE ARREST EVERY ONE OF THEM

    Fixed that for you. Pretty sure a felony arrest gets you off any police force.

  325. 325.

    WaterGirl

    @Cheryl Rofer: One thing is clear, these people have no problem looking right into the camera while trying to overthrow the government.  They appear to believe there will be no consequences for this.  Has the president promised them pardons?

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